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optimistic going into the negotiations merkel's conservatives are holding the preliminary talks with the center left social democrats after previous talks with other parties failed sticking points this time around are expected to be germany's refugee all seized and his approach to european integration. let's have a listen to what mark on the social democrat leader martin schultz had to say as talks got underway. because the c.d.u. is going into these talks with the aim of creating the conditions to form a stable government. that's because we believe that the tasks ahead for which we have the voters' mandate are enormous in terms of foreign policy challenges european challenges and also in domestic affairs. we all sensed that the challenges for a new federal government however at me luker be structured lie in that the new year and which we all live must also include a new kind of politics in this sense we will conduct the negotiations here constructively and with an open outcome. of covering the talks for us as our political correspondent rupert who joins us now for more so rupert has americal does have a lot of work ahead of her as the as these preliminary talks get going why is it so hard for the parties to find common ground. well there basically three parties sitting at the negotiating table. there is first of all the conservative flock of anglo-american ourself and within this block the smaller parts of the sea is used the more conservative and this is you party is trying to tries to. to be more tough on refugee policy is against more integration into europe and then on the other side there's the there are the social democrats and the social democrats have been very reluctant to go into this grand coalition again as this growing coalition in all know the only window of these new election elections would be the far right of d. party so this is very complicated in the end angler machall is doomed to success here but the other parties are rather reluctant. reporting for us there many thanks indeed. you know what now three years ago a series of terror attacks shook paris it started on january seventh when gunmen stormed the offices of the satirical magazine charlie killing twelve people the magazine had already received threats from islamic extremists for their irreverent cartoons of the prophet mohammed the editorial team were in their morning meeting when two masked men armed with assault rifles burst into their office and opened fire among the dead the editor of charlie amdo stefan siobhan yeah and his bodyguard and one of charlie a cartoonist. and six other members of the magazine staff. the attackers brothers saeed and cherie of quad she fled the scene and after a massive manhunt they were killed in a shootout with police well in paris the ceremonies taking place as we speak to commemorate the victims of the attack on the charlie hebdo satirical weekly and for more let's cross over now to our correspondent lisa lewis who's in paris so he says it's now been three years from the charlie ebb to attacks what's changed since then . well this has changed france in the very thorough way i mean first of all this attack was an attack on the one of the very cool principle of democracy many trends here feld i mean there are redactions that the newsroom of china do is now being guarded twenty four seventh's they are working from an armored office and have to use armored cars are being a guarded by bodyguards all the time and they have to spend more than one million euros per year for their protection and they are saying that they're still receiving death threats over there and obviously that was a moment that changed their life forever but also for the rest of the country for other friends who are feeling that these people are actually saying well you can't say what you want to you can't express yourself freely and many people here feel that this attack was actually a watershed moment it brought war it was only in the very first of many attacks that france. wasn't it. yes absolutely there were other attacks that followed especially the ones in november twenty fifth teen where one hundred thirty people were killed in attacks across paris specially at that music hall the better and that took the whole thing to even higher lever really because the attack was at that point were not attacking the special people but there were attacking the whole of french society actually they were tacking the french when they were having fun when they began out and people felt that everybody could become a target and even today people are still afraid that there might be new attacks it's very much a topic in the center of attention and more than nine out of ten of the french say that they think that a new terror attack in france is likely or very likely all right lisa lewis reporting for us from paris many thanks. now to some of the other stories making news around the world and saudi arabia has detained seven eleven of its princes for protesting against and to state payments of their utility bills officials say the men have been sent to a maximum security prison and are awaiting trial hundreds of as well as have stood in long lines outside supermarkets after the government ordered shops to slash their prices authorities in caracas and force price cuts in response to spiraling hyperinflation the country's in the grip of an economic crisis with food and medicine shortages affecting millions thirty two sailors are missing after an iranian oil tanker and freight ship collided off the east coast of china the tanker caught fire after the crash rescuers are now looking for survivors crew members from the cargo ship have been rescued. donald trump has been stepping up his attacks on claims in a scathing new book about his presidency trump said the book called fire and fury it was a work of fiction and that it's also had never set foot inside the oval office speaking from the presidential country retreat camp david after meetings with republican congressional leaders. the book that questions donald trump's fitness for office seems to be doubling in its impact. to the us president himself triumphal out of his series of early morning tweets defending his mental capacities as just smart but genius and a very stable genius at dot. at this hastily called press conference at camp david the republicans hope to talk property priorities instead came questions on those tweets and a bit everyone in washington is talking about i consider it a work of fiction and i think it's a disgrace that somebody is able to have something do something like that the libel laws are very weak in this country if they were strong it would be very helpful you wouldn't have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes to your head but just so you know i never interviewed with him in the white house at all he was never in the oval office we didn't have an interview the book is speaking on n.b.c. the books also michael wolff said he touched on reaching access inside the u.s. center of power and white house reporters have supported his account interview questions of a trans mental stability and nothing new they've been mounting over the course of his first year in office now it's emerged a professor of psychiatry at yale university briefed some members of congress on the president's mental health late last year she told the w y. l what we're saying that. in the office of the presidency there's a danger to national and international security we're trying to educate the public about the finding. in debility our doubts about. the need for the evaluation. as more copies of foreign fury sell trump is said to be frustrated that the issue of his mental fitness is gaining traction. some sports news now and ski jumping is prestigious for hill's tournaments has come to a close in austria with one name on everybody's lips camile star was on touchable over the first three stages and with the overall victory almost in the bag he had a record at his sides he was hoping to become just the second man after germany's then one of old to win all four events to do it let's find out. head and shoulders above the competition reigning champion and olympic gold medalist kamlesh doc was king of the four hills again after winning the first three stages the pole was equally impressive in bischof so often he set the longest distance in the first round and held his nerve on his final jump to ensure victory again. that gave him the grand slam and kept one of the most dominant for hill's performances in a year as. it was a really good competition for me the chance wasn't perfect today but i did my best and can i say thank you for one team team colleagues team coaches because they were they've been working so hard and i'm. after germany's best type is a coward fighter crashed out of the tournament in the third stage is countryman and that is bellinger stepped up with a strong performance to claim second place for the tournament. he was followed in third by norway's and does fine and the. former astronaut john young hailed as a pioneer by u.s. space agency nasa has died at the age of eighty seven young's trailblazing began in one thousand nine hundred eighty s. and he was part of the first manned gemini mission by the time he commanded the first space shuttle flight in one thousand nine hundred one it was his sixth travel into orbit in the meantime he'd also joined an exclusive club. oh my god look at. april nineteenth seventy two john young and his fellow astronaut charles duke collecting rock samples from the surface of the moon. it was an achievement that they shared with only ten others adding them to the exclusive fraternity of moon walkers forty nine years later young would break new ground again. or we. start we. commanding the maiden voyage of nasa's new space shuttle program young took on a particularly risky assignment it was the first time that nasa launched people on a rocket ship that had not first been tested in space. when we launched reed really did know a lot of things and we learned a lot of things i think chris craft said it best they said when we got back he said we just got in fully smarter over his forty two year career at nasa young became the only astronaut to go into space as part of the gemini apollo and space shuttle

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eighty one after a long illness while the news was announced by her personal assistant when mandela was the ex-wife of the late president and anti apartheid icon nelson mandela her legacy in south africa was mixed for decades she was long admired as a determined fighter against white minority rule in south africa but women to his reputation began to suffer and later years due to a number of controversy still she does remain one of south africa's most of fining figures and tributes have been pouring in for her this is what one member of the current government had to say she was really it was. solved in african names. is the sea deep our evolutionary pain. of this great i call of regimes drug. serfontein is a south african journalist author and documentary filmmaker she has reported extensively on her country thank you so much mr serfontein for being here with us who was winnie mandela well she's obviously in the former wife of nelson mandela but she was so sort of a very strong figure in a own right she was a social worker one of the street to go and study in the united states in the nineteen fifties and married to mandela. and then off to he went to prison and she became the voice. of nelson mandela because he was in prison and with twenty seven years she kept his legacy alive and i strongly believe without him he would have not have been that i can he became my so it's about that because she's been so tainted in the past couple of years but this is a very interesting point you think that well everyone was in prison the a.n.c. was in exile his organization he was in prison his comrades when prison and she was still there and they slammed her with banning orders but she kept on breaking her book banning old is she kept on speaking up she was beautiful she was well spoken and she was not scared of anyone she was really feeling and that got into trouble in later because no one could control her not to watch apartheid government the nato not to see that she was when he was one of the most fearless people have ever met fearless woman fearless activist you know her personally what kind of impression that should make on you know well she was incredibly charming on a one to one and you know like if you would speak to her you had the full attention and she was just the sort of very charismatic person more so than when they're lively she just had. this charm and with charm people but then when she was angry she just always have vicious as one is seen in the townships and that when she confronted the security police right so where did it all go wrong i mean you refer to it already shared this fierceness which couldn't couldn't be bound i think when they benish ten nine hundred seventy seven to bring forward to an area which she didn't speak the language where people would politicised and she was very very isolated and she did start to have a drinking problem and i think that broke in addition to have early as sort of spells in detention which she was sort of kept without trial for eighteen months and raped in that time and that must have broken her just when the people were not treated for post-traumatic stress syndrome in those days so she was a very lonely person when she was invented and she spent about nine years. she was also been active being a social worker she started like feeding. feeding the people. organizing them getting sort of activities for the trold wron getting foreign governments to fund have projects so she was also very eco active but she was very lonely in that time and i think that broken in she went back to see a way to she was surrounded by the wrong people she was not a with the judge the best judge of people's character a very complex history of a complex woman what will her legacy be i think her legacy would be that at the time when everyone was in prison or when exiled she kept the legacy of the anti-apartheid struggle alive for many many years all to great extent be aren't only answer from time south african journalist talking to us about the legacy of the now late winnie mandela thank you. all right and other news reports are coming in from see. that rebel fighters are leaving their last stronghold in isa hotel syrian media showed us is said to be carrying militants and their families leaving the area persian forces say they've cut a deal with the largest rebel group the army of islam but some members of the group deny that sources also tell the news that hundreds of wounded fighters from a different group have been bussed out of the area it's on now an anti government and activist and citizen journalist nor adam has sent news exclusive footage of video diaries showing the final days of rebel control in the besieged area. different species. you can. see it for us they force us to leave that's our goal. that's where we are. they destroy our. our goal how do you conceive that suction this terrible. thing to now there are families. that are of going to have this thing. going now we are actually. we don't know really getting back to that what we were what he was doing. our city is how we fight i would do if i didn't know what happened to the feeling like oh. i was being arrested for any of this and jane and oh exactly it's going to be done there i should and the us and them to see our we know we've. got three countries feel the power of all the court going to the fight. and russia . as. my mrs. did you. instead of. yes if i write. my dad he. said simply. i've been lost like more than twenty five or twenty six right. and right now. a lot of them is going. for nothing but it is my life i want to sponsor the taliban for the sick winds. and to say it's a. window that is going for nothing. personnel a video diary out of some hotel there all right now to some of the other stories making news around the world. israel says it has agreed to deal with the united nations on resettling thousands of african asylum seekers israel had faced criticism for previous plans to send the migrants back to africa and mass forty one percent then in the previous presidential election critics also argue as sisi had just one opponent a token candidate to give the election the appearance of a genuine contest opposition groups that called for a boycott of the vote. well with voters handing a second term to president have to have sisi what does this mean for the arab world's most populous nation going forward ruth michaelson is a correspondent based in cairo and she will be able to provide us with some contacts was this a vote by egyptians for a sisi or for stability in the country. well government and c.c. himself bill this vote as a vote as a vote for civility a vote for the country a kind of vote for egyptian patriotism as a whole but of course high turnout for turnout of any kind benefits he says will he wanted a strong mandate going into his second term in office to be able to push through further reforms perhaps even constitutional little ones we saw that there was forty why i'm just on forty one percent turnout which is about a four percent dip from cc's last victory in twenty forty but he got roughly the same amount of votes ninety six point nine percent in twenty fourteen and this time around ninety seven point zero eight percent of the vote so roughly the same between twenty forty and now alone of course we have no way of knowing if these figures are correct all right now let's talk a little bit about what is ahead of him now egypt's economy is in dire straits inflation is pretty bad ordinary people are in area the gypsies are suffering many many hardships what has he promised to do to turn the economy around for his people . well we see that season at some. economic reforms following. egypt's acceptance of a twelve billion dollars loan from the international monetary fund twenty six and this led to the cutting of subsidies. to a subsidy there are. then widespread contemplation that he's going to cut subsidies including natural gas subsidies when we see a new budget. that there's no clear confirmation of that yet and c.d.c. is also frequently lent on the mega projects that egypt has enacted over the past couple of years and new capital city a second series cannot have a saying that these are going to bring prosperity to the country but that hasn't necessarily been the case just yet and there are a lot of people who are worst a whole society who say they're not seeing the benefits of any of these reforms just feeling the pinch. michael some reporting off from a cairo thank you. because presidential election has resulted in a resoundingly victory for the governing party the winner is also being seen as a victory for gay rights carlos over otto of the ruling citizen after party has vowed to legalize same sex marriage his opponent an evangelical pastor campaigned against gay marriage polls had predicted the runoff would be taped but in the end it wasn't even close. the crowd went wild when carlos alvarado was announced the winner. my responsibility is to unite all the people in our country move the country forward and enable it to become a leading nation in the twenty first century. carlos alvarado the candidate of the ruling citizen action party had come in second in the first round of voting behind fabricio alvarado of the national restoration party the two men are not related fabricio alvarado ran on a platform of opposition to same sex marriage that became the main issue in the avocados are destined for the chinese market but they might not sell so well anymore now that china has imposed tariffs on fruit and meat while steel pipes and scores of other imports from the usa the rates of fifteen percent on one hundred twenty items and twenty five percent on eight others. the chinese government says that people support its move some in china regret the ensuing rise in prices. can you it's definitely going to have an impact many fruits that kids love only grow in foreign countries we don't have them in china that is a direct impact. it's absolutely right to impose tariffs because i've seen the news about the us crapping trade deals with us it's right to fight back. the new tariffs are china's initial response to the u.s. move to slap tariffs on steel and alimony i'm imports the u.s. is also threatening to impose further tariffs on sixty billion dollars worth of other chinese imports a year over what it terms the theft of intellectual property china by contrast is raising tariffs on about three billion dollars worth of u.s. imports. beijing says it will never submit if the u.s. launches a trade war and says that tariff increases are in line with world trade organization rules to protect its interests still the scale of china's new tariffs is modest the move looks more like a warning shot than a major counterattack the u.s. is china's largest single market a full blown trade war is the last thing china would want. now when it comes to rolling up its sleeves and doing some serious hard work portugal is a country that know something about that the financial crisis hurt austerity even mall. but the country pulled through and started spending again well before everything looks rosy growth is now two point seven percent so we took a trip to a warmer and brighter looking part of europe. business is going pretty well for eva organized his co-operative has been making wine since nine hundred fifty seven but sales haven't been this good for years. in the beginning there were only this part and then you have to upgrade it to increase the capacity then we. will double the capacity we've put. just side by side because we are in the maximum capacity of production and we have more demand than with what can you produce around thirty people work on the cover where a cooperative. working conditions have improved for most portuguese in the past two years thanks to a raft of reforms including a higher minimum wage instead of starting economic growth it's accelerated it at least that's how the portuguese finance minister sees it we have done some profiting from the new wave of tourism rising property values are changing neighborhoods low income locals are being forced out like fernando tex era he grew up in boulder on the banks of the river he can only afford to keep the studio as the new bars and restaurants drive up the prices. bought a new one to me there are no portuguese people that can afford to pay rent in this area not one i was born here and i was thrown out so a hotel could be built and i have to move way back. probably even things the government should make sure everyone benefits from the economic upswing but he remains optimistic that portugal can find prosperity without the need for staring. the gulf nation as battering has discovered its biggest oil fields since one thousand nine hundred thirty two it's located off the country's west coast and will dwarf back rains current reserves that's according to the country's government now the oil ministry will release details about exactly how big this site is and how easy it will be to extract the oil later this week is a major oil producer is only right fifty seventh annual oil production pumped out about forty five thousand barrels of oil a day. and out thank you hello today marks the fiftieth anniversary of the beginning of a traumatic shock turn germany's post-war history on april second one thousand nine hundred eighty eight bombs went off into frankfurt department stores one of the perpetrators was andreas bader who went on to found the left wing terror group known in germany as the red army facts on it's also known as the bottom line hall after carrying out deadly attacks spanning three decades the organization disbanded in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight the bottom i have going may have broken up but police believe that three suspected former members are still active. police are searching for this trio in hiding for two decades they were last seen by surveillance cameras june a robbery in northern germany in twenty sixteen they thought to be the remaining members of the so-called red army faction and stop both cut and daniella cleta. they belong to the factions third generation they're pretty says a spot to national crisis in the one nine hundred seventy s. with attacks government blackmail murders and kidnappings terrorist activities peaked in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven with the murders of germany's federal prosecutor general secret blueback bank manager yogen panto and the kidnapping of the president of the german employers association hands martin the terrorist shot him dead germans clearly remember that wave of terror. despise what they believe the main topic on t.v. and in the newspapers it was as distressing as the islamic state activities are now the fashion it was a shock you just didn't think they would become as radicalized as they did about the student protests of nine hundred sixty eight defined germany's political climate at the time extreme left wing violence also took shape that year two department stores in frankfurt was set ablaze symbolic acts to protest against capitalism and dress but and could written ensley in took part in the crime they would later found lead the red army faction hans christian scribbler was an active member of the student movement who yelled apollo back then a.p.o. the non-governmental opposition students movement wasn't just a movement for revolutionary change in germany i also wanted that it was an international movement was. wrong and the left at the time sought self in that context. but some people a minute percentage said that we should not simply accept things that we had to take up arms. of. the buddah mine health group officially disbanded twenty years ago it's believed the trio's recent robberies were more likely carried out for the money than for political reasons discussions about the factions still divide germany today former conservative parliamentarian votes gangbuster worries that they may still hold a fascination for some up to us and no one can seriously claim that the end of the red army faction would also be the end of all if we need stream of lift to six trimix who are prepared to be violent so you should never say that chapter is closed forever on its. shriven of pleads for a more differentiated discussion. it would help us work through this history and a discussion about it today if people debated these incidents more calmly without blinders and without prejudice or do it for a laugh and laugh and. the red army factions wave of terror a shocked germany during that era the country was an agent ideologically divided even now the group's actions of the subject of passionate debate throughout the country. are now to something altogether different a very insidious puzzle in the southeastern corner of germany is experiencing it for a city the world's first museum devoted to ducks and they're known as the sausage dog opens its doors to the public while the museum's a founder says about time that sausage dog fans had a shrine dedicated to their beloved breed. excitement has been growing ahead of the museum's opening. man's best friend has already been having a sniff around the premises which is filled with some two thousand objects inspired by the sausage dog. museum founder and director is. a proud but very and can hardly believe no one came up with the idea before him. but often the world needs a sausage dog museum once captured the essence of bavaria you know the dog in the world enjoys the same kind of recognition or popularity here as a sausage dog. some of the pieces on display might be considered kitsch by most people but probably not for ducks and lovers. one of the more serious exhibit pays tribute to famous sausage dog lovers among them nobel physicist albert einstein and actor leonard nimoy better known as spock from star trek. there's even a drawing of the sausage dog sketched by none other than pablo picasso. and of course no museum would be complete without a gift shop visitors searching for the perfect souvenir for themselves or others and purchase a gift box that's sure to bring a smile to any sausage dog lover. i must say ok you're watching you have unusual still have a lot more to tell you about including life as an immigrant in saudi arabia some foreign workers are facing new arches because of country's ambitious reform program and frankish our files a rebel court of the kingdom on the cusp of change. that coming up and a whole lot more in just a few will be right back. meaning that it's connected to being realistic martin luther king jr. just legendary speech for our area. this edition of a society free of racism. was written in one dramatically good night on the fiftieth anniversary of his death the dream of martin luther king jr to. close up in forty five minutes to tell the truth. we may come over a week or times of office that found out that if we are the civil service or. the want to shape the continent's future or to. be part of it and join african youngsters of testing share their stories their dreams and their challenges. to seventy seven percent of the platform africa is charging. one hundred million tonnes of. devastating interest in its. mission to the consequences. the storm. coming to america two frequencies. one spin stuart. no stopping them. just starting to pull something d.w. . great to see you again you're watching the news these are main headlines right now sells the africa and the apartheid campaign when he mandela has died at the age of eighty one the ex-wife of the late president nelson mandela was seen by many as the mother of the nation but only years her legacy was tarnished by a number of controversies she died peacefully in a hospital after a long period of illness syrian state media says the rebel fighters have agreed to a deal to give up their last stronghold in near damascus eastern who took has been in rebel hands since the start of the conflict. china has slapped import tariffs on ports and a whole range of other u.s. imports the move comes after president trump imposed punitive terrorism on china u.s. stocks are down intriguing amid fears of a possible change for. saudi arabia is known as one of the world's most conservative societies but falling oil prices have hit the kingdom hard and that is triggering change his wallet was home on has unveiled an ambitious program of economical for known as vision twenty thirty thirty eight and our reporter funny for sure travel to saudi arabia to find out what his vision really me. riyadh is an international city a third of the population comes from abroad many of them manual workers they helped to build the saudi capital but the wall khan they once enjoyed is starting to fade . saudis first know that the saudi government's plan to reduce unemployment among native saudis employers who hire none so ds will have to pay higher fees and jobs in shops like this one selling electronics for example will be restricted to saudis only. foreigners will be banned from at least jobs. stores selling instruments has already put up a sign for saudis only be looking for a salesperson male or. how does asian is a good idea there are more job opportunities here for saudis than for foreigners. but he and a lot of service return from the u.s. and germany with degrees only to find many jobs already filled by foreigners after their own country should benefit from them as saudi arabia should benefit from saudis. we are in a neighborhood in the south of the city it's a tough area most of the people here are foreign workers want to here is from bangladesh here i've got a month ago to work in this shop learning how to assemble picture frames everything is getting more expensive in the salaries aren't enough for everyone it's hard to it's if that had to survive for the person's life for manual row course was never easy in saudi arabia just as in many parts of the world but falling oil prices have made it more difficult and as your prices doubled in a year pushing up prices and recently new taxes on basic goods added an extra burden it's even more to here has just finished his shift how many hours did you work today i swear words sixteen hours that's a lot. maybe it's a lot better and i need to do that for the salary he makes one thousand three hundred saudi ryall a month that's about three hundred fifty u.s. dollars on the way home he tells me he used to have a good life until his father got very sick. you know we lost our almost all of our money in his treatment so i just thought that i should come here to. keep them alive being the eldest in the family he border responsibility he dropped out of engineering studies and came to saudi arabia to earn money but it wasn't as easy as he had expected life is becoming more difficult for foreigners most of the people of other countries. and even here here's the cause. because there are now just and they can't live like that maybe my boss gave me a place to live. there was a not like that even some people don't have a job sometimes the slaves near the road don't have time money to buy food. i want to hear chooses not to show me the room he lives in with three others he doesn't want to get into trouble and be sent home he wants to stay as long as he can to make money for his family he's just one of millions of foreign workers in saudi arabia they are realizing though that the future here belongs to the saudis. some examples there of the work of iran the artist is surely in the shots who is the subject of our culture for our parts twenty one this week and there on your own mail is here from our culture desk i mean i have to disclaimer here she's one of my favorite artists i'm so happy that we're talking about her today she lives in the u.s. how did she end up there tells us that well she went to study in nine hundred seventy five at the university of berkeley in california and in nine hundred seventy nine islamic revolution happened and this was a real shock and it obviously changed the role of women in iran. immensely i mean overnight they became almost second class citizens the shots prevented her from going from britney and then in one thousand nine hundred she went back to iran eleven years later and that was actually what sparked it and you know how to create evictee as an artist and ever since it's her art that prevents her from returning because she often focus on the injustices especially of women in iran anyway let's find out more about this wonderful woman. in this truthful. it deals with contrasts between islam and the west men and women light and dark where reality segues into train. and sure enough shots work always uses the female voice. it's always this the ballots here in extremely fragile and vulnerable and yet extremely strong and defiant the female experience in iran was the subject of her first feature film women without men about four women seeking to escape their lives . that i. guess is that if i have. yes. in twenty seventeen nesha turned her focus to the world of opera when she directed aida for the salt spec festival. was an art are. sure initiates work is constantly evolving mirroring the trajectory of her life. werman tell us about her new film love that's coming out about a legendary egyptian the singer known as star of the orient yeah i'd starve the audience just where you know she is better than me. i now i mean wonderful. was legendary in the twentieth century is even legendary to this day is the greatest singer ready of the middle east and apart from the film telling us about this extraordinary musician it shows the major sacrifices a woman had to make in islamic society if you want to be an artist of any car and. own cultural by the way is not outside the middle east by certain musicians bob dylan evidently is a big fan as is maria callas kind of even called her the woman with the in comparable voice let's hear it now this is an actress actually in the film but the voice is the of the original voice that she. was. some wonderful way of saying and i must say old it's only songs i'm told a about unrequited love with a very sad or happy yes i've seen some with trans i just love it it's really not sort of long and yeah. let's talk about the other movie that's coming up that she's also making about iranian women in us in the us in exile this is a quite a change that shuttles come out next year meanwhile if people are interested as you are you can see an entire program on a program outs twenty one about it's running up this week or it's available on our website at d.w. dot com slash culture yes awesome we're going to definitely to you know i definitely well thank you so much ellen greatly appreciate it all right and i'm going to hand you over now to helena. shares in emerson fellow shopper monday off the us president donald trump renewed his attack on its relationship with the united states postal service dragging the dow down almost three percent natural claims that u.s.p.s. is losing money on delivering for amazon and taxpayers he says off financing the losses will analysts point out that the online retailing giants payments actually support the postal services other money losing businesses and it's not says pension obligations they say amazon is helping the u.s.p.s. stay afloat but estimates say amazon pays the u.s.p.s. roughly hope of what rival postle services would be charging. now twenty five years after the end of apartheid in south africa white farmers still own most commercial farmland to fast track land reform the governing a.n.c. party had adopted a policy of land exploring creation without compensation but a closer look reveals it has less to do with correcting historic injustice and more to do with winning back voters ahead of elections. the northern part of free state province is one of the most fertile areas of south africa it's here that yucca owns a large farm he's one of about thirty five thousand commercial farmers in the country for me about three an authentic this is my new my soybean sunflowers and from. produce about fifteen thousand tons of grains per year four hundred days of cattle. twenty five people permanently and all those helping south africa being the only food secure country in africa white farmers like me are the backbone of south africa laggard culture but the original black owners of many white owned farms were pushed off their land during the colonial and apartheid periods after the end of apartheid the government addressed this injustice and created a land reform program on a willing buyer willing seller basis but only around ten percent of white farm land has been transferred back into black ownership. many like julius malema and his left wing economic freedom fighters all find that this is not enough. to know what all this is why it is so hard to know. if you are why you're. so. well it's real really we are we. are only since such demands have proven popular with many voters the governing n.c. has recently adopted a policy of land expropriation without compensation and wants to amend the constitution accordingly. so south africa is headed for national and provincial elections in twenty nineteen and the debate about land an expropriation is entirely situated within that issue between the a.n.c. and the year if if if for making this their number one election issue but i don't think we are ever going to see land express expropriation without compensation in south africa the constitution provides ample scope for government to implement responsible land reform without having an impact on the investor confidence or indeed on challenges with regard to food security in south africa but given the heated debate about expropriation and uncertainty as to what the future may bring farmers like you are holding on to their money rather than investing it. because we run a big farming into process we need to constantly put capital into the business and that this moment we're not sure we will that we are going to do it because of all these procreation thing i'm still very positive about the future and i think there's a great future of the eight of us if we can all work together in this country economic growth in south africa is slow and the country faces many financial challenges so the government needs to consider carefully if it can afford to lose farmers like minnaar and foreign investors who fear instability. well did you know this month kicks off frankincense season in oman in the middle east resins harvested this time of year to create your own bed that many may associate with christmas and the trade has survived the centuries but modern life is now taking its toll. frankincense is using essential oils in french perkins and that has partly helped drive global demand you know eskil declared part of the deal for region it's not a no man's land of frankincense a weld heritage site. but if you go. to what frankincense is still considered a precious well the trees are rare in order to protect them we collected trees from many places in the door for products we protect them at this reserve for natural frankincense trees. you need to look. you've got but you. efforts here could help protect the bones will your trees that produce the resin for frankincense for trade in the future demand is so high that the trees here do not have enough time to regenerate. but there's more to the you know school site here this area was also an important stop on the ancient silk road which runs all the way to china in those days frankincense was traded in exchange for spices textiles and silk. from ancient frankincense to new technology of course tech usually comes with a few teething problems and drones in a different russia's postal service has been taking them for a spin to deliver apostles but things didn't go quite as planned during the day. a russian drone was supposed to deliver its first parcel from one remote village to a neighboring want. the postal service wanted to celebrate the occasion. you know it you but i'm very happy that we're launching this project here today which would undoubtedly be successful. however the drone didn't get far. crashed after just a few seconds in the air. nobody was injured. but the dream won't be flying again any time soon. all over the firm date of us forces here to talk us through the soccer weekend action all the things are starting to crystallize some things are leyla certainly by and for example they inched a little closer to the title but a lot of things are up in the air to especially the race for the champions league places all right well sunday's big game saw frankfurt to travel to brainless take a look. craven's florian cofield has been working to emulate the kind of success nico kovach has had in frankfurt unlike the former croatia international though cofield builds his team around attack thomas delaney with a pinpoint cross not to lose of its. one nil to brain in the twenty eighth minute a high quality goal you know high tempo game. in the second half frankfurt struck back with some style as well. kevin prince boating with a snappy back heel assist for a look at your age. three minutes later the eagles nearly soared into the elite your bitch threw on the republican who pulled a crucial kicks in how crucial this crucial use of it is crossed deflected high into the air by dabdoub around. and into the net. lucas with its key tried and failed to control the ball perhaps down by the sun. frame and walked off to one winners the trend under cofield just keeps going up. right to all the fifty dollars first here still with me how big of a blow is this for frankfurt it's a pretty bad weekend from frank first point of view you know that was fourth at the start of the weekend in the champions league places they finished it six out of the champions league places as we say here but you know the good news for them is that it is very tight as i said at the top that by an obviously way out of and shall kill i think an album for a champions league place now but below that dortmund down to six by frankfurt you've only got three points gap between them and it's only another three points further down to hoffenheim in sevens so there still could be a lot of movement there you know and i think the head to heads are going to be really important also saying that they're allegations i'm braman i think after that when i now saif i think they can stop worrying so they say and i think the head to heads are going to be really important in the champions league rights and next week as early as next week with one of those levees and playing leipsic fourth against. those are the games that people really need to watch out for now i can't help looking at that sherry look at byron my god that gap couldn't even get wider just how did i say bye and you know just on another planet compared to every other team in germany right now for years we've been talking up dortmund is that being the big rivals and you know every time the two meet we call it deck classic you know the classic and and we try and drum up this rivalry because we want it to be true that there are these two titans in german football facing each other on saturday that now this season that is just the fast it's not the case anymore that being said it wasn't the perfect weekend for buy and they were hoping to win the league at home for the first time since two thousand and one eleven leads final since then always away from home that was confirmed the title away from home so a bit of a disappointment and we've heard from some of the let's hear what muscles the defender were here to say. yes i think most of the fans and most of us would like it to ruin the retired lads home. but of course you know we won't try to win it in our school kids to close this game to home so maybe that's ok. all right not too bad not too shabby ali but what about dortmund can their coach survive this i think it's the end of the season probably you because it's very late in the day to change coaches now but beyond that i don't think goldman have been anywhere near good enough and i think it's been mediocre at best he did steady the ship after the disastrous baseball but it certainly doesn't look good enough to really build on what they've done this season and in fact dillman do have a couple of really big games coming up the next three games are against the shock of the big rivals and late because none of the champions league contend and like i was saying this head to head games they're going to be what's really important the rest of the season if they lose all of those then it could be gone even before the end of the season for whole of britain's mind out there thank you so much ali for talking to us about this thank you art and i'm going to head to some surfing now because australia's surfing great mick fanning is in fine form in his final event before retiring the thirty six year old who famously fought off a shark while competing in twenty fifteen progress to the fourth round of the world surf league event at bell's beach in australia the three times world champion produced a near long list performance in front of his home crowd you'll hope to secure a fair well victory later this week. are the defunct chinese space station has really entered the earth's atmosphere years after scientists lost contact with it this young one was launched in two thousand and eleven and serviced china's first space station astronomers say it mostly disintegrated upon their entry but people were fortunate not to have been hit by the remaining debris. after orbiting over a year and asia the chiang gong one disintegrated above the remote south pacific far away from human settlements astronomers a calling it a lucky escape. launched in two thousand and eleven the station had mocked a giant leap for china's celestial ambitions astronauts on board conducted 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Interviews with political figures and news updates. they're speaking from the same playbook. but this is a tough line to walk, andrea. >> ken dilanian, you had dan coats, head of national intelligence, questioned about the dissonance there. let's watch. >> in the run-up to the helsinki summit, u.s. officials, ambassadors to nato, ambassadors to russia, said that the president would raise the issue of malign activity with the president. >> i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened at helsinki. >> ken, it does seem that dan coats and the rest of the team have still not been briefed on what happened during that private one on one. >> and that's remarkable, andrea. dan coats is the nation's top intelligence official. he needs to know these things, he needs to understand where the russians are coming from, and what potential negotiations took place between the president and the russian leader. this news conference was such a fascinating mixture of cynical meddling. that's not saying whether the president has given authorization for cyber operations. as of a few months ago, i'm told, cyber command did not have that authorization from president trump. >> that's terribly important, obviously, for us to be going on offense. admiral stavridis, general nakasone had this to say, let's play exactly what ken is referring to. >> general, have you been ordered at all or authorized to conduct any offensive cyber operations in response to this? >> so my guidance and direction from the president and secretary of defense is very clear. we're not going to accept meddling in the elections. it's very unambiguous. >> again, that answer is ambiguous. but there were some hints from secretary of defense jim mattis that we might be ready to undertake offensive cyber responses. >> let me start by pointing out that surreal disconnect between the president and his four intelligence professionals. this is kind of like pearl harbor in terms of an attack on the country, andrea. and this would be as though after the pearl harbor attack you didn't get the president coming out, instead you got the chiefs of the army, the navy, the marine corps, saying we're going to prosecute, we're going to go forward, we're going to defend the nation. this is a time when you really expect the president of the united states to be speaking to the american public. so let's really underline the strange aspects of this historically. in terms of offensive cyber, i know general nakasone well, he's a straight shooter. he's trying to keep on the inside highly classified information there. we have a great deal of offensive cyber capability. to date, we have chosen not to deploy it. i think that's a mistake. i think it's time we started to look quite seriously at a range of offensive cyber actions in order to retaliate for this ongoing russian activity. look, the thing with russians, andrea, they have an old proverb which is that when you are probing with a bayonet and you encounter pu countecounter mush. when you hit steel, withdraw. we'll have to show some steel in the cyber world. i hope general nakasone is prepared to do that. i would like to hear more, at least to the congress on a classified level, about what options are on the table. let's time we took this more seriously than we have to date. >> and russia also misbehaving according to treasury sanctions today on north korea. that's something you know very well, what we're doing at sea, even, there's a talk that there's a multilateral naval force. i want to talk more about this dissonance factor. this is the president talking about kim jong-un and north korea at that rally last night. >> what i did with north korea was great. i got along great with chairman kim. i got along great. i got the hostages back. didn't have to pay anything. they're not testing any more nuclear. they haven't had a test in nine months. and you know what else? they're not sending rockets over japan and they're not sending missiles over japan and they're not launching missiles anymore. they haven't launched one in nine months. >> at almost that exact moment, the secretary of state, admiral, was in the air, heading to singapore for a meeting of asian nations where he's going to talk about north korea and about compliance with sanctions. and he was telling the press on the record that they are cheating and that their neighbors are cheating. russia, china, others are cheating, breaking u.n. sanctions, which we now see the treasury acting on today. >> indeed. another remarkable disconnect. and, a, it tells you that the political season is really unfolding, and clearly the president is just throwing red meat, red ribeye steaks to his base. but that is not doing our nation much good in terms of our security. and secretary pompeo is in exactly the right place, which is to evince frustration, to take action. and i think that if we are going to be serious about choking off north korea, it's going to require an international naval task force so that we can avoid the kind of sanction busting that we know russia and china are doing right now. here's the good news, andrea. at least we're still on a diplomatic track. and i will give the president credit ca credit, there have not been any further nuke tesclear tests or launches, but that program is continuing to build. we have to stop it. i think secretary pompeo is our best bet. >> thanks so much for that, admiral stavridis, ken dilanian, and kristen walker at the white house. breaking news, houston police department announcing the man suspected of killing a local cardiologist, a well-known cardiologist, has now been found dead. police say that the apparent murderer committed suicide. dr. mark hausknecht was killed bicycling to work. he formerly had treated president george h.w. bush. he was celebrated in his field and he was tracked on a bicycle by this alleged killer who has now been found apparently a suicide. coming up, alternate reality. president trump declaring russia was not happy about his presidential victory. really? 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a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. directly contradicting what vladimir putin told the world in helsinki, that putin did want donald trump to win the 2016 election. also contradicting of course his own national security cabinet only hours earlier in that unprecedented white house briefing. joining me now, charlie sykes, contributing editor at the weekly standard, and michael steele, former gop chairman, both msnbc contributors. charlie, you're in wisconsin, in the heartland. what are people there saying about what we're seeing as dissonance, but perhaps it's working? >> well, this is the definition of cognitive dissonance. it was truly remarkable listening to that briefing yesterday and realizing that what they were saying contradicts what the president was saying, then watch them go out at that rally and once again undermine and undercut that entire message. if the point was to rally the nation behind confronting the russian attack on our democracy, the president clearly cut them off at the knees. now, is it in fact working? i'm not sure. obviously the president's base is still behind him. but i think at this point in the midterm campaigns, we have to ask whether or not these rallies and sort of the bizarre dark forces that he's unleashing at these rallies is actually going to work with those swing voters or those soft republican voters who are going to be determining who controls congress. >> the other thing about this, though, was that he was actually doing something for lou barletta, one of his favorite republican congressmembers. but barletta is running against a very popular democratic senator, bob casey, and casey has a long, the, his family roots are in that district. but you have to win the suburbs of philadelphia in that state. michael steele, as a former republican chair, you know that's not the way to reach out to the people in the suburbs. >> it is not. and i think that's one of the -- pennsylvania is a bellwether for a number of important races coming up this fall. and the fact that the president is so narrowly playing to a base, he feels good in that setting, he's having fun, he's riffing and cussing and doing this and the folks are loving it. to charlie's point, the rest of the country, the independent voters, center/right democrats and republicans, are looking at this and going, what is this all about? there is nonan inclination right now, i think, andrea, to empower that kind of mindset in washington any longer. and that's why you see the numbers for the president dropping. that's why you see the generic ballot for republicans holding on to the congress moving away from them. it's because of moments like we saw last night. >> you also see the tariff wars. out where you live, charlie, wisconsin is being so hard-hit in dairy, in all kinds of ways. the farmers are being hit. and also the auto industry is potentially going to be hit hard by aluminum and steel. again, china today saying that $60 billion in retaliatory tariffs are heading our way. >> well, yes. i mean, you think about the jobs numbers we had earlier today. you would think donald trump and the republicans would be cruising with these economic numbers. but you have this cloud of the tariff wars over the economic numbers. we're the home of harley-davidson, iconic american company that's been attacked and vilified by the president. the larger point that michael is also making is that donald trump is this huge gravitational force distracting republicans from being able to talk about the things they want to talk about. they want to talk about the economy. and yet donald trump keeps throwing out this chaff, keeps stepping on their own message. i can't help but think these attacks on the media, the rise of unhinged conspiracy theories, won't play well in the suburbs and swing area of states like pennsylvania and wisconsin. >> this stuff that works with the base, the polling is hard to figure. >> yes. >> we don't know what the mueller probe is going to be, and he's played that well in terms of demonizing mueller and any result of the investigation that comes. and at the same time, talking about a government shutdown, against the advice of every republican leader in the house and senate. >> you actually are raising a very important underlying point, i think, andrea, about, okay, so how does this really play out, given all these other variables that are still yet to fall into place, from mueller to whether or not the president actually pursues a policy of shutting down the government sometime between september and october. for donald trump, that's his ace card. that's what he keeps up his sleeve, the idea that we're guessing, we don't know how these things play out. some of this is defense and offense at the same time for him, where he goes out here to sort of encapsulate himself in the love of crowds like this that sort of protect him from whatever may come from a mueller probe, for example. but it also gives him that leverage to push back if he wants to and threaten the party, ostensibly, with shutting down the government, and to, quote, say to them, you guys go deal with that, i'm having fun over here, you go deal with the mess that's created over there. it's a different form of throwing a bright shiny object and people following it down a rabbit hole. he's throwing many bright shiny objects in the air at the same time. and the question for the party is, are the voters paying attention to any of those, are there really focused on, okay, what is my situation right now going into this november election? job numbers and all that notwithstanding, how does this play for me? and i think, back to your point about swing voters, i think those swing voters are moving away from the trump circus and focusing more on the fact that they want something a little bit different and this ain't it. >> i wonder how many evangelicals and family value folks, however we define that, are worried about the children and are also worried about the fact that we had to bleep the president of the united states at a public rally because of profanity today. maybe we didn't have to. let's talk about that later. turning now of course to the effort to reunify migrant families, with our thanks to michael and charlie, the trump administration is today trying to shirk the responsibility to reunite more than 500 children still in government custody. msnbc's jacob soboroff who has been on top of this border crisis from the very beginning has the latest from a court filing, jacob. >> reporter: that's right, andrea, we have a court filing that came in from the aclu and the trump administration, the parties in this case. first, an update on the numbers. remember, 2,551 children overall were separated from their parents by the trump administration in a systematic way that had never been done before. as of yesterday during this filing, 572 of them still remain in government custody. they have been calling this category "ineligible for reunification." that word does not appear in the latest court filing, but essentially it's the same group of kids we were talking about before. 410 parents from that group were deported before they were able to be reunified with their children. what is most extraordinary, andrea, but what we learned in this latest filing late last night is that the administration is essentially suggesting that the aclu now go take responsibility for tracking down and reuniting these children with their families. to say this as clearly as i can, the party that separated these children from their parents is now saying, look, we got sued, if you guys want to reunite these kids, you go find them yourself and we'll do our best to help you do that. it's pretty extraordinary. >> the last time i looked, we did not vote for the aclu to be running the government, or dhs, or anything else in this country. i think we voted for donald trump and his cabinet. >> that >> reporter: that's exactly right, andrea. the aclu is essentially defending themselves from this proposal, proposition, that will be talked about in court later today, by saying that the government essentially has endless resources. they have as much money, as much personnel as they possibly can. i talked to an administration official today who basically said, look, the aclu is on the air all the time talking about this issue, people are raising money to find these children. it's a preposterous theory, quite frankly. >> jacob soboroff, thank you so much for taking the time to bring that to us. coming up, lifestyles of the rich and infamous. did paul manafort cook the books to support his very expensive tastes? 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now, justice reporter julia ainsley. harry litman, former assistant attorney general. and our expert "washington post" fashion critic. robin, first to you. pictures are not permitted to be shown of much of this in the courthouse to the jury. but we've seen the pictures. can you tell us who spends $15,000 on an ostrich jacket and what's the difference between python and ostrich? what does this tell you, if you were doing a psychological profile of the person wearing these clothes? >> the choice of something like that ostrich or python, these are exotic leathers. they are, one, not that readily available, and they are also extremely expensive, and they are quite distinctive. someone who decides that's the way they want to go is someone who wants people to notice their clothing and who wants people to sort of see how expensive it is. i think it's also interesting that a lot of the suits, we're talking about custom made suits. but you can't really distinguish them from something that might have been purchased off the rack. they don't have any sort of particular personal flair to them. it's more about the cost. and certainly it's about the volume. and i think a lot of that suggests to me that this is someone who is not so much interested in style as they are interested in quantity and price tag. >> conspicuous consumption. at the same time, according to the evidence, julia, that has been produced, especially the bookkeeper the other day, this was a man who was dead broke by the time of 2016 when he was volunteering to work for donald trump for nothing. >> that's right, andrea. the bookkeeper testified yesterday that around 2015 to 2016, the bottom really fell out for the manaforts. and today we've been able to get more into the finances as we've heard from the person who put together the tax returns for both mr. and mrs. manafort as well as the partnership, the company that manafort ran with rick gates. he said an interesting thing just now as i was leaving the courtroom, not only did manafort obscure some of the sources of his income, he did tell him about the foreign bank accounts in cyprus, but he asked him to lie. he said, will you please say this is a private presence where my wife and i stay in new york so we don't have to pay taxes on it. and he wrote back and said, it's never been my understanding that it's your private residence, in fact it's a rental, a business expense, and you need to pay taxes on it. we're seeing that it's not just that manafort didn't keep track. he willfully, knowingly obscured these data points in his finances. that's exactly what the prosecution needs to prove in this case, that it was knowing and willful. >> harry, as the former prosecutor, how damaging is it that the judge here, who is apparently very well-respected by his colleagues, with his taking a very forceful role in arguing and directing both prosecutors and defense on how they should frame questions, even, and in keeping pictures of all of this extravagant closets full of clothes, in keeping those pictures out of evidence so the jury doesn't see them, how damaging is that to the prosecutors' attempt to put some, you know, visual elements together as well as just these data points? >> he's tough. i've tried in front of judge ellis, and he seems to get a special flair out of really pushing on the prosecution. i don't think it's the case, however, andrea, that they'll see none of these. many of them were admitted. he refused to have them published, which is to say, passed along to the jury. but the jury in the eastern district of virginia will see them when they're deliberating. but how damaging? you know, a little bit. a little bit of flavor. but look, i think overall, prosecution is a storyteller's art. and they are definitely being able to pursue their story in broad strokes this week. and in particular, i think heather washkuhn has emerged for nominee for best supporting actress yesterday, not that she's acting, but she was a devastating witness, i think. credible, position of trust, sees everything, and really buried him with the bookkeeping details. so we've had to date, setting the stage of the ukraine, then the ostrich jacket, and now all the bookkeeping stuff. even without the pictures, it's all going in very well. they'll see many of the pictures anyway later. and i think the stage is now set for rick gates to come forward and tie things up, probably no later than early next week. >> and robin givhan, from your article in "the post," you wrote, a man should not be prosecuted for his fashion choices. although maybe in some cases they should. those choices show who the man believes himself to be. manafort wasn't interested in bespoke fashion. he wasn't buying designer brands as proof of tribal membership. he wasn't hunting down elusive products as testament to his cultural cache. for him, it's about accumulation of monopoly money, having the most expensive stuff. on top of his landscaping and everything else, what's so remarkable, after the bookkeeper testified the bottom had dropped out, he was still living at that level. >> when people are buying this kind of merchandise, as the fashion industry well knows, it's not just about, you know, buying a jacket or a suit or an overcoat. it's really about creating a sort of personal public identity. that's whatwe we're really seei here. it's not just about labels and brands. it's about identity. >> finally, harry, when we talk about this trial, we have to also remember there is an undercurrent here, as we've been talking about it all week. it's not about russia, it's not about the campaign, but it's showing how much he was in hock to the russian oligarchs, even though the judge said you can't use the term "oligarch" in the courtroom, that is in the back of the jurors' minds. >> it certainly could be. the bookkeeper testified while he is the campaign manager, they're losing hundreds of thousands of dollars a month. they can't pay health insurance. he's got over $1 million in credit card bills. it paints an absolute portrait of financial desperation. and, you know, you've got a financially desperate guy running the campaign of a major political party. it's a recipe for political disaster. >> thanks so much, robin, thank you for your fashion turn and your great analysis today. and julia of course, and harry litman, great weekend all, thanks. coming up, full court press. the president intensifying his attacks on the media. has he gone too far? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. introducing zero account fees for self-directed brokerage accounts. and zero minimums to open an account. we have fidelity mutual funds with zero minimum investment. and now fidelity has two index funds with a zero expense ratio. because when you invest with fidelity, all those zeros really add up. ♪ so maybe i'll win ♪ saved by zero about medicare and supplemental insurance. medicare is great, but it doesn't cover everything 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those attacks and rallies during the campaign and ever since. ashley parker, white house property at "the washington post" and a pulitzer prize winner. and jeremy peters, reporter for "the new york times" and msnbc contributor. ashley, watching that last night, it really does come to mind that this is his main foil in the midterm elections. >> it sure is. and this has been his foil since really the very beginning when he started his campaign. what's interesting to someone who has traveled and been at a lot of those rallies, the mood can kind of differ. there are some rallies where he attacks the media as a foil with a hard edge of menace and it can feel dangerous, uneasy, or unsafe. last night he was clearly agitated, kept returning to the media more frequently than he has in recent weeks, especially at a rally. he did it in a way that was a little bit shticky, part of the trump show, the audience played their part, they booed and jeered us but didn't seem particularly angry. they were sort of smiling as they booed us. there's some element where it's part of the show and some element when he's really angry and it seems like he's really trying to incite the crowd against the media. >> the anger levels are hard to predict. it raises the question, first of all, how safe it is for the media. sarah sanders yesterday under intensive questioning from jim acosta, a frequent target and antagonist back and forth with the president, raising the question about the "enemy of the people" quote after ivanka trump said she disagreed with that, sarah sanders wouldn't say she disagrees. she said she works for the president. mike murphy, a republican strategist, last night had a modest proposal as to what the media should do going forward. >> cover it with a pool reporter. i don't think there's any need to put on the show that frankly the president uses for his base supporters. it's good box office for trump. the question is the journalistic realities which is that they're being used and abused. >> i'm not saying don't cover him, the rallies aren't newsworthy, certainly on north korea and russia and other things they certainly reinforce many themes that we have to cover, but ashley and jeremy, should we be there in force so that he looks out, as he said, it could be the academy awards looking at all these cameras, why not pool it, treat it like an oval office event? >> i think that the level of hostility with which he's treated the media, as ashley pointed out, certainly escalated in recent weeks. and this phrase, "enemy of the people," while he's been using it for about a year and a half now, is especially insidious, because let's just go over the history of where that phrase comes from. leaders like stalin have used this phrase. >> it comes from joseph 12stali. >> exactly. don't you dare question my authority. trump is doing something slightly different, basically says those people who dare to criticize me are criticizing you. they aren't just our political opponents, they are enemies, they are bad people, they are exercising bad faith. and that includes not just the media but anybody who dares to question or really investigate what donald trump is doing, whether that's bob mueller or whether that's the media. >> ashley, it does undercut not only our core values and our constitution and the first amendment, but a longstanding tradition of secretaries of state and presidents speaking out for a free press even when they have been angry for the press, certainly bill clinton was in my own experience, jimmy carter at times, certainly w. bush as well as with perhaps better reason, bush the father, angry. and ronald reagan, angry at us. but they always had news conferences, had organized interactions with the press, not just off-the-cuff interactions when they chose to. and they never barred reporters from publicly covered events as this president has. >> that's right. relationships with other presidents, other politicians, have certainly gotten antagonistic but we haven't seen anything like this. the president is not someone, even when he goes abroad, he doesn't go abroad to export democratic or american values there. the irony, as you point out, of the president really going after the media and really not standing up for them or even the first amendment is that he more than any modern politician is a creation of the media. in a lot of ways, president trump doesn't exist without the media. so as much as he attacks us and, you know, recently barred a reporter from attending an event, he also looks back in the crowd and he is desperate to see all those cameras pointing at him and all those red lights on and all of those headlines. and a lot of his behavior in office is reflective of the media coverage. >> not such a bad idea from mike murphy, at least worth pursuing. thank you so much, ashley, thanks for being out there for us, and jeremy of course as well. coming up, controversial praise. an african-american pastor calling 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airports. yes, they're convenient. but if other people know there's no security there. >> sure. but if you're looking at the kind of simple screening you can get at these airports, i don't think we need that much screening. >> -- >> i got the leave there it. i'm sorry. appreciate it. thank you both. tune in sunday morning to state of the union with jack tapper talking to congressman ed royce and deval patrick. that's all sunday morning, 9:00 a.m., 12:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with wolf blitzer in "the situation room." happening now, breaking news. mueller and the madam. robert mueller's team interviews the woman who earned notoriety as the manhattan madam. the special counsel apparently wants to know about her ties to roger stone. is mueller building a case against the long-time trump ally? russian hysteria after u.s. intelligence chiefs paint a grim picture of continuing russian interference at u.s. elections. moscow responds with ridicule, know anything about russian collusion. he didn't participate. and so far he has not been called in to to meet with mueller. >> clearly an important story. thank you very much, sara, for that report. meanwhile, prosecutors have laid out the lavish lyle steiff of paul manafort. now on day four of his trial, they're digging into details of his alleged tax and bank fraud. evan perez is over at the federal court in alexandria, virginia. evan, what's the latest? >> well, wolf, we got some of the most important testimony that we've had so far in this trial. we heard from two of paul manafort's accountant, and both testified that he did not disclose to them that he owned these foreign bank accounts that the government says were simply money that he stash aid a way, $60 million that he got paid over the years from ukrainian oligarchs and ukrainian government people that he was working for. they both testified that paul manafort and rick gates hid the fact that they had these bank accounts, and in fact, that they thought that the money was coming in were simply payments from clients. we also heard from the first time from one of the witnesses that has been offered immunity by the government to testify against the government. cindy laporta is one of the accountants, and she described how her firm, people working for her, with her essentially fudged some of the numbers on behalf of paul manafort in order to reduce his taxes. she said, quote, i very much regretted it appears the reason why she says she did this, fudging the numbers on behalf of paul manafort was because paul manafort was a very important client to her firm, wolf. >> and what about the prosecutors? what are they saying about how manafort actually used the real estate, it was quite sensitive, the real? >> this goes to the heart of the prosecution's case against paul manafort that basically, he was lying on his tax returns, lying to the irs in order to reduce the amount of taxes that he was paying. one of the things, according to the witness testimony we heard today was paul manafort was reporting that he was using at least a couple of the homes that he owned in new york. he was using them personal residences instead of rental property. what this did, wolf, it essentially lowered his taxes when we reported this to the irs. one of the accountants who was on the stand today described exactly how this was done, to deceive some of the banks that paul manafort was doing business with. again, part of what he is facing here are charges of bank fraud. so, again, this is central to that case. and of course now that we've heard from one of the account t accountants who is saying that they participated in what the government says was a conspiracy, we're beginning to see really what the government is trying to do here, which is that these people were helping paul manafort hide money from the government, lying to the banks in the process, wolf. A look at breaking news, politics and reports from around the world. tack the credibility of rick gates. rick gates was his closest deputy. he has been described often in this courtroom as his right hadn't man. and we expect that he is going to point out that he pleaded guilty to lying to the government. that's going to be some very fiery testimony when that happens next week. >> we will of course cover that closely. evan, thank you very much. joining us now, democratic congressman eric swalwell of california. he is a member of both the intelligence and the judiciary committee committees. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. i quickly want to begin with the breaking news, the special counsel robert mueller's team meeting with the so-called manhattan madam, known for her ties to roger stone. do you see roger stone as key witness in the mueller probe? >> i do, wolf. and that's because roger stone will tell you that he himself is a dirty trick center. we learned in our house intelligence investigation that he and donald trump talked regularly, not just the years before the campaign when they had talked about him running as president in prior years, but throughout the penancesy of the 2016 election. roger stone foreshadowed that these attacks were coming of course he has changed his testimony a number of times to the house intelligence committee sthachlt have all the reason to want to know what he knew and whether he passed on his knowledge to candidate trump. >> as part of the interview he granted to your committee, the house intelligence committee, do you think he was telling the whole truth looking back? i owe you've gone through the testimony. >> no. i don't, wolf. and we had an opportunity to test his story by subpoenaing his cell phone records, his bank records, his travel records, and the republicans on the committee were completely unwilling to do that. this was a take them at their word investigation. come on, in take a seat, answer our questions, and we had no interest from the republicans in testing those stories. and now queer left with this, that our only chance of finding out the truth is bob mueller's investigation, which the president e day seeks to shut down. i think it highlights all the more reason we need to protect that. >> was he under oath? >> he was under oath, yes. >> so do you expect an indictment by robert mueller's team against roger stone? >> it wouldn't surprise me at all, wolf, just begin because of the way he has acted and the way he has bragged about working in the past and the dirty tricks he has used on campaigns. but again, the bigger picture that i see here with roger stone is donald trump was willing as a candidate to bring on to his team so many people who either use dirty tricks, close to the russians, or demonstrated zero judgment in who they were willing to do business with. so at the very best, like donald trump, he had extremely poor judgment. but the evidence suggest there's is not really innocent explanations here. it's that those qualifications helped them get the job rather than disqualified. >> let's turn to the trial of paul manafort, the former trump campaign chairman. how important is this trial will is ongoing right now in alexandria, virginia to robert mueller's overall russia probe? >> well, it shows thene seriousness of the probe. it's t former chairman to the president, again, it shows that donald trump was willing to bring on his team somebody who had prior business relationships with pro-russian ukrainians. again, that would disqualify most people who wanted to work on a presidential campaign. i think with this president, that was actually something that inflated the resume and helped him. so if there is a guilty plea here, wolf, i believe that it's going to build a momentum, and the american people are going to start to understand the seriousness of just how close this president has drawn us to the russians. >> well, based on what you've seen so far, congressman, how strong is the government's case against manafort? >> i don't want to make that decision. that's the jury's decision, and unlike the president, i'm not going to try to tamp were the jury. but i think they've at least met the standards to go forward and put it in front of jury. i have faith as a former prosecutor that this jury is not going to listen to the outside noise and they're going to do the right thing and justice will be served. >> yesterday, the director of national intelligence, dan coats, said he wasn't in a position to, quote, understand fully what happened between president trump and president vladimir putin during their summit last month in helsinki. it's been clearly three weeks. shouldn't the top u.s. official here in the united states know that information by now? >> yes. and i'm not convinced that anyone in the president's cabinet knows what was said, because as we've had opportunities to ask them, they seem to not understand. ranking member adam schiff and i on the intelligence committee tried to subpoena the translator so that we could have some sense of whether national security secrets have been jeopardized. but what really concerns me, wolf, and i thought that press conference yesterday was great. it's sad they had to do it when the president was outside of the building. but it doesn't matter if dan coates and fbi director wray are doing all they can to counter meddling. if the person who is behind the wheel, steering, if that person doesn't, then we're still helpful and vulnerable. so we need the president to understand it. and we need him to issue the directives. otherwise, i'm afraid that the russians are going to keep doing it. and to say that the president does understand it, if he did, the russians wouldn't be doing it. the reason they keep hacking and the reasons they keep doing these social misinformation programs is they believe he's given them a green light. >> he has, why do you think he has? >> because they helped him, and he likes them. and he likes people who like him. >> congressman swalwell, thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. up next of after the national security teams and intelligence warn on russia continuing to attack, can and russia adds insult to injury, ridiculing the latest u.s. intelligence warnings as nothing more than, quote, stairia. when i received the diagnoses, jersey. what's the latest? >> president trump is taking some time off at his country club in new jersey. but the storm clouds hanging over his administration, they have also made the trip from washington. one key question for the president that he is likely to work on during this trip up to new jersey is whether to finally talk to the special counsel, robert mueller. president trump arrived for a summer vacation at his jersey golf club-facing a potential hazard that is nowhere near the putting green, the prospect of sitting down for an interview in the russia investigation. the president is receiving no shortage of advice as political strategists warn it's a trap. >> i'm not an attorney, but my political advice to the president would not be to sit down with bob mueller. the opportunity to make a misstatement potentially or potentially get caught up in the word is too great of something that could happen there. >> while the president's legal team is keeping the door open. >> i'm not going give you a lot of hope it's going toe happen, be we haven't stopped negotiating. >> at a scampaign rally in pennsylvania, the president hardly sounded like he is warming up to the russia probe. >> now, we're being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax, okay? >> mr. trump is still bending the truth when it comes to his relationship with the russians, telling supporters he is no friend of the kremlin. >> i tell you what, russia is very happy that trump won. that i can tell you. >> despite the fact that vladimir putin just revealed at their joint summit he wanted a trump victory. >> translator: yes, i did. yes, i did. because he talked about bringing the u.s./russia relationship back to normal. >> reporter: democrats accuse the president of being at odds with his own national security team, who warned the world russia is still trying to interfere in u.s. elections. >> the president was missing, as you said. he was not only missing from that event, the next day he calls it a hoax. and what president trump did in helsinki and what he did yesterday in calling the russian probe a hoax, it gives a green light to mr. putin to continue his activities here in the united states. >> and as one of the president's top intelligence officials conceded, it's not fully known what mr. trump told putin behind closed doors. >> i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened at helsinki over to the national security director here. to address that question. >> the president is still nursing his grudges with the media, dispute anything news reports that he kept the queen waiting during his visit to britain last month. >> i'm waiting. so i was about 15 minutes early, and i'm waiting with my wife, and that's fine. hey, it's the queen, right? we can wait. but i'm a little early. honestly, folks, it was such a beautiful, beautiful visit and afternoon. but they can make anything bad, because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >> mr. trump again turned to the issue of immigration, this time trying to defend his past comment that mexican immigrants are rapists and criminals. >> coming down the escalator, and you remember what i said? do you remember that? and i mentioned words, i won't even mention them tonight because there is a lot of young people here. but i mentioned words. and everybody thought it was wonderful. but then about two days later, they said did he say this? did he say that? guess what? what i said is peanuts compared to what turns out to be the truth. it's peanuts. >> now a source familiar with discussions inside the president's legal team says deliberations over whether mr. trump should down with robert mueller have been going on for months. the president is aware of all the risks and the president has been advised that talking to the special prosecutor would be a good thing for the institution of the presidency. wolf, it is widely expected rudy giuliani will make the trip to bedminster to talk with the president about all of this. it is getting to be crunch time for making this critical decision. >> good point. jim acosta, thank you very much. also breaking tonight, russia is responding to the extraordinary warning from u.s. national security intelligence chiefs about moscow's efforts to independent fear in the upcoming midterm elections here in the united states. our senior international correspondent matthew chance is working the story from moscow for us. so matthew, what are the russians saying? >> well, as you might expect, wolf, the russians are pouring scorn on this idea that they had anything to do with manipulating the political environment inside the united states, particularly through social media, saying that they are expressing regret that this's has even been made by u.s. officials. the foreign ministry spokeswoman here in moscow issuing a statement saying this. the two-year hysteria around the alleged interference in u.s. elections which did not happen mocks the whole political system of the united states representing democracy there as a house of cards. and so some of that language very reminiscent of the kind of language we heard a few moments ago coming from the presidents of the united states. what we do know is this is just the latest installment in a whole series, long-running series of denials by the russian government if they had anything to do with election manipulation, or manipulating the political atmosphere inside the united states. it comes, remember, as well as it's emerged there has been a russian spy at the heart of the u.s. embassy here in moscow, the russian capital. russian officials asked about this today. she worked at the embassy for ten years. she was firely apparently after being discovered a year ago. they were asked. we have no idea what or who is being talked about, but if the americans have any data they would like to share with us, we would be very happy to share discussing this we with them, almost with a wink. let's look at what sources, how you've gathered your intelligence knowing full well the u.s. diplomats here are going to do nothing of the sort, wolf. >> good point as well. matthew chance in moscow, thank you. there is more breaking news. the special counsel's team questions the woman known as the manhattan madam, a friend of long-time trump confidante roger stone. what does this mean for the mueller investigation? and. and prosecutors focusing in on paul manafort's alleged financial crimes as witnesses testify the former trump campaign chairman was ocooking the books. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. we're following multiple breaking stories right now, including sources confirming that the special counsel robert mueller's investigators have questioned a woman once known as the manhattan madam. she is a close friend of trump confidante roger stone. let's bring in our political legal and national security experts to assess. susan hennessey, how does this fit in, this manhattan madam development into the broader russia investigation? >> so this woman kristen davis has a long-standing relationship with roger stone. he actually was even her campaign strategist in a 2010 race for the new york governor, and she worked for him in 2016. but from the outside we actually have no idea how this individual might be connected to the russia story. what that tells us is there are a lot of things that robert mueller knows that we don't know. so in special counsel filings, they have said there are multiple nonpublic lines of inquiry. that's their way of saying there is not just facts you don't know, there are entire matters being investigated that the public doesn't know about. >> what does it say they're interviewing her before they interview roger stone? >> it's not uncommon in these investigations to start at the edges and work your way into the bulls-eye. if roger stone really is the target of this investigation, what we could expect to see over time is individuals who are increasingly close to him being interviewed. that's a way for robert mueller's team to ensure they have the full story, a full understanding of what occurred before they finally sit down with stone. >> a long-time confidante of president trump's. could he have valuable information in this overall russia investigation? >> susan was talking and saying you work out at the edges and you work in to people who have very close relationships with roger stone. that's president trump. he has been working with roger stone for the better part of two decades in politics and has used him as a strategist. i do think this should probably be alarming in some sense for the trump team that mueller may be interested in somebody who has such a close relationship with stone. i don't think if stone is a target, he may not be the only target in this investigation. and until we know more about this line of inquiry, i don't know that we can surmise very much. >> i'm sure the president always hates when they get closer and closer to people who have known and worked him for such a long time, like michael cohen, allen weisenbe weisenberg. >> see if he wants the talk to his children or son-in-law? >> those are important developments. could stone be a key witness in all of this? >> it's possible. i mean, it depends on the question that investigators are trying to answer, wolf. and of course there is a lot we don't know about the direction or the directions they might be going. but roger stone of course have a great deal of information, unique information about president trump. having worked with him very closely in the early stages of the campaign and before that, as an informal adviser to trump, he essentially helped him launch his career. and then they spoke throughout the campaign. so stone would have a lot of information about trump specifically. but he wasn't a part of the formal campaign infrastructure. he wasn't talking frequently with some of the other senior campaign staff. so it would be specifically information related to the president in this case, that he could potentially offer. >> i assume they're trying to figure out if stone actually conspired, koomted, colluded, whatever word you want the use with the russians as part of this whole investigation. you know, shawn turner, what does it tell you that the mueller team itself is questioning this manhattan madam, this friend of roger stone instead of detailing it out to the u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york as they've done with others or what's going on in the eastern district of virginia right now. >> yeah, well, i think it speaks to what we all know about robert mueller. he is a seasoned investigator who knows how to do this. he understands that it's often the case that people around the target of investigation who are the most unlikely witnesses are people who have the most valuable information. we also knows that he has to get this right. robert mueller is the kind of person that asks questions he already knows the answer to. i think by doing this himself and making sure his own team does it, what that tells me is he has a sense of the pick dhaer is coming together, and he knows what those various pieces are, and he is talking to her himself because he absolutely knows he has to ask the right questions in the right way to get to the information that he probably already knows exists. >> one thing we do know is that robert mueller doesn't do anything without a reason. >> as you were going to say? >> i was just going say that the other relationship of course is one between roger stone and paul manafort. they have had regulations going back too. obviously the current paul manafort case is not we know tied directly to the notion of russian collusion. but it is another nexus of relations that exists. >> what has jumped out in the first few days of the paul manafort trial? >> i think the remarkable thing is just the strength of the case against manafort, the degree of witness, documentation that we've seen. i think it shows the degree to which going to trial is a hail mary here you. really have to ask yourself, maybe paul manafort actually thinks he's going to be acquitted. maybe he really believes he is innocent. you have to ask the question whether his play here is to hold the line and ultimately hope president trump pardons him? >> you think that's what he is hoping for? >> potentially. but donald trump in public in making statements about paul manafort has suggest head wasn't an important player in the campaign. certainly hasn't suggested he maintains any feeling of loyalty toward paul manafort. so it does seem like a bit of a hail mary that paul manafort would believe that the president could potentially pardon him. but if he has this menu of bad choices in front of him, maybe that's the least bad among them. >> he did suggest the other day, the president, that manafort was being treated worse than al capone. >> shea bit player in the campaign with this, nothing to do with russia, but can't stop watching coverage of the manafort trial. i compare to al capone and say he has been treated unfairly. the president has been a little inconsistent when talking about manafort. we know he's completely consumed by the coverage of this trial. i can't think of another explanation other than paul manafort is waiting for a pardon because imagine the maximum pressure that's on him right now, and he has been remaining steadfast. >> so far. we'll see what happens. stick around. there is more we're watching. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. time. tap one little bumper and up go your rates. what good is your insurance if you get punished for using it? 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the president said that he had been provided data to back up his this assertion. now anyone who works in this field understood that that wasn't true, understood the public record from the beginning. but there is this temptation with donald trump to just move on from the lies, right? he says it. it gets a little bit of coverage, and then sort of doing the spade work of proving it, of getting the department of justice to actually admit that it couldn't have shared the data with him because the data didn't exist in the first place takes a lot of time and resources, but it still is important to develop that factual record to show that the president is lying. >> stand by, everybody. there is more news we're following. is kim jong-un living up to the agreements he made with trump? very, very differing views that are emerging within the trump administration. the president saying one thing and the secretary of state saying something very different. ♪that i'm a traveller ♪i'm gonna follow the sun♪ ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma ♪that i'm a traveller transitions™ light under control™ if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible. this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach. comes as very differing views on north korea are emerging within the trump administration. >> good evening, wolf. that's exactly right. i don't think anyone is surprised that president trump is still speaking glowingly about making a deal with kim. but one of his closest advisers now warning, it may not be that easy. secretary of state mike pompeo, who leads the north korean negotiations, is now expressing caution over kim jong-un's commitment to give up nuclear weapons, just one day after president trump praised the north korean leader. pompeo telling reporters, chairman kim made a commitment to denuclearize. to the extent they are beying in -- behaving in a manner inconsistent with that, we can see we still have a ways to go to achieve the ultimate outcome we're looking for. president trump insisting it's all going well with kim. >> what i did with north korea was great. i got along great with chairman kim. i got along great. that's a good thing, not a bad thing, by the way. >> reporter: but there is still no denuclearization agreement and pompeo revealing days ago, kim is holding on to his vital weapons capabilities. >> yes, they continue to produce phfissile material. >> what kim is doing so far is not seen as significant by u.s. intelligence. test tunnels were blown up, but the u.s. believes the explosions were superficial and the tunnels could be rebuilt. some destruction of facilities seen in commercial satellite imagery is at a largely out of date launch station. the worry, kim is using the nearly two months since singapore to keep building warheads and missiles capable of attacking the u.s., and the concern is kim will never declare the full scope of it all. now, eavesdropping and intercepting kim's communications may be the only way to learn the truth, some officials say. trump has applauded the return of 55 boxes of remains presumed to be americans killed in the war, tweeting, thank you to chairman kim jong-un for keeping your word. and vice president mike pence used the return of remains as a key marker. >> we see today as tangible progress in our efforts to achieve peace on the korean peninsula. >> reporter: but it may take years to identify all of the remains returned and momentum towards denuclearization could be slowing. >> one of north korea's game plans has always been to stretch out the game, hoping for the clock to run out. in this case, the longer the negotiations drag on, the less resolve the u.s. may have. >> it's been just about one year since president trump's famous fire and fury remarks. now, u.s. troops might be headed back to north korea to help search for more u.s. war remains. and if they go, their security will be provided by north korean troops. wolf? >> let's not forget, barbara, that on june 13th, right after the summit in singapore with kim jong-un, the president tweeted this. let me put it up there. he said, just landed a long trip, but everyone can now feel much safer than the day i took office. there is no longer a nuclear threat from north korea. so what he said then clearly in contrast to what pompeo and others are saying right now. still a nuclear threat from north korea. barbara starr, thank you very much. coming up, the breaking news. robert mueller's team interviews the woman who earned notoriety as the so-called manhattan madame. the special counsel apparently wants to know about her ties to roger stone. is mueller building a case against the longtime trump ally? insured by united healthcare insurance company might be the right choice for you. a free decision guide is a great place to start. call today to request yours. so what makes an aarp medicare supplement plan unique? well, these are the only medicare supplement plans endorsed by aarp and that's because they meet aarp's high standards of quality and service. you're also getting the great features that any medicare supplement plan provides. for example, with any medicare supplement plan you may choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. you can even visit a specialist. with this type of plan, there are no networks or referrals needed. also, a medicare supplement plan goes with you when you travel anywhere in the u.s. a free decision guide will provide a breakdown of aarp medicare supplement plans, and help you determine the plan that works best for your needs and budget. call today to request yours. let's recap. there are 3 key things you should keep in mind. one: if you're turning 65, you may be eligible for medicare - but it only covers about 80% of your medicare part b costs. a medicare supplement plan may help pay for some of the rest. two: this type of plan allows you to keep your doctor - as long as he or she accepts medicare patients. and three: these are the only medicare supplement plans endorsed by aarp. learn more about why you should choose an aarp medicare supplement plan. call today for a free guide.

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charges related to bank fraud, tax charges. so this is the moment where this courtroom will now finally be hearing from manafort's -- essentially his number two, his former right hand man, rick gates. and gates is the prosecution's key witness. he will be the next person to testify. let's go first to cnn's caris beganel. she is just outside the courtroom in alexandria, virginia. tell me, when will this happen? mere minutes? >> we have one more witness to finish testified today. that's manafort's accountant. rick gates is the witness that's up next. many of the's attorney said that in court. this all came about as one of manafort's attorneys sort of dropped a bombshell alleging that rick gates embezzleled millions of dollars from paul manafort. he asked the accountant would that have been something she would have looikd to have known. she said she would. he teed all of it up by making it appear that rick gates was the main person he dealt with. and he tried to suggest through his questioning of her this was all because gates was evading criminality himself. after the prosecution is done with this witness, we willing hearing from rick gates. he has worked with paul manafort for 20 years. we are ptd anding manafort's attorneys to hammer him when they get a chance to. that's likely to occur tomorrow. >> kara, thank you for the setup. i have people to talk us through what happens when this rick gates moment happens. rick and jessica, great to have both of you on. jessica, let me dive right into this with you. i think in order for everyone following this trial to appreciate how deeply connected these two men have been over their lifetimes. kara just mentioned he had been his deputy for 20 years. but rick gates goes way back with paul manafort to when he interned at his lobbying firm. >> exactly right. he was his research assistant. >> wow. >> he did that for a while. and then he came back in 2006. that's when he worked hand in hand with paul manafort. brooke, that's why rick gates will be on the stand for this particular trial. because he will know impactly how this alleged scheme of paul many of the's operated. he will be able to tell the jury exactly what paul manafort directed him to do. you know, of course the government is alleging here that they hid these foreign bank accounts. they hid all the millions that they made from lobbying in the ukraine. so that's what rick gates will be able to tell the jury. of course the defense is planning to go on the attack here, as kara mentioned. they are going to say, no, this was rick gates embezzleling money, stealing millions from paul manafort. and oh, by the way, rick gates has admitted to lying to the government. so, jury, why would you believe an admitted liar? that's going to be their tactic here. what is interesting here is maybe not so much what rick gates will tell the jury but maybe brooke what he has already told prosecutors. of course he has been working with them since he struck this plea deal back in february. who knows what he has been telling him behind the scenes about how the trump campaign operated and what may have been the dealings with the russians. he wasn't in the trump tower meeting but he knew about it. there is a lot going on here with rick gates. >> let's go inside the courtroom. seth, to you, put yourself on the prosecution side, the government side. he's up on the stand. what picture would you, if you are the prosecutor, what picture are you trying to paint for these jurors to hear in terms of this is the guy who knew the guy who did all kinds of, you know naughty, naughty things, and he had a front row seat to it? >> it's all about closeness. it's all about proximity. and it's all about timing. this is a very strong case by prosecution. i know they have taken a few bumps along the way from judge ellis. but it's very well grounded in documents, and it's also very well grounded in witnesses. there was a point that was mentioned a moment ago that was very important. you have to get into the mind-set. you have to get into the intent. the documents are critical. and we see the signatures. we see the documents. and we see the trail. but rick gates is going to be a key witness in terms of being able to demonstrate straight the intent of paul manafort. the other thing i would add in terms of the color and the context of this is that there have been some colorful discussions about the role that judge ellis has taken and how he has been giving the prosecutors a little bit of a hard time in their case in chief. as a lawyer who practices in the eastern district of virginia on a regular basis and knows judge ellis very well and has been in front of him, i can tell you that he treats everybody quite sternly and directly. he's very smart. he's very sharp. i'm sure when the defense puts their case in chief on he will give them some of that medicine as well. >> we have heard stories about this judge. it's good to know that you have experience firsthand. for the defense side, you know, as jessica and others have laid out, they are going to pin this whole thing on gates. it wasn't manafort. it was gates who was the mastermind. >> well, it's going to be very difficult the pull that off because at the end of the day, the lead of the business enterprise is in control. we have already heard from the accountant that manafort was a man of detail. he had his hand on the business. he was riding this horse. he had his hans happends on the. rick gates carries a lot of weight. i think that his testimony and the information he shared with prosecutors is so significant that i even think that indirectly he had a role in the breakdown of the story on the trump tower meeting this weekend because when the fbi puts on witnesses they have to release fbi interview statements. and it seems that there may have been some further information behind the scene regarding some key discussions that took place before the trump tower meeting with don jr. which might have triggered a little bit of a change of heart from the president there are putting don jr. in jeopardy. i think the bottom line is that mr. gates is a significant witness that changes the dialogue and the narrative for many witnesses that are involved in this case. >> reminding everyone, gates was the third person in the trump orbit to cop a plea, he and flynn and papadopoulos cooperated. let's move along. let's talk about the legal implications. we were just talking about the trump tower meeting. the legal implications of president trump's treat indicating that the trump tower meeting was to get dirt on hillary clinton. did this open the president and his son up to legal jeopardy. plus a bizarre sighting on air force one this weekend. hope hicks, we will talk about what she would have been doing there. >> and alex jones blocked. the conspiracy theorist and much of the content from his info wars website removed from you tube, facebook, apple. but is it a violation of free speech? 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The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. his attorney, rudy giuliani added, this whole new storyline that okay, no -- not only was there no collusion, that collusion is not a crime. all right. now that we are all up to speed, this is where we are today. let me bring in cnn courthouse correspondent kate lin collins and seth barrons wag katlyn, to you. you, in addition to all of that you have new reporting today with jake tapper that trump is concerned whether his son, don jr., might have legal exposure in the special counsel's russia investigation. tell me about that. >> that's right, brooke. the president is growing increasingly concerned. that's why we have seen him ramp up his attacks on the special counsel which you have seen play out on his twitter feed calling out the special counsel robert mueller by name, something we did not see the president do six months ago, before. he would never go that far as to that he did not tell his father about this meeting. the president maintains that on twitter. of course, brooke, as you pointed out, there are questions about the white house's credibility and the president and his family's credibility about this entire meeting because so far they have really thanked their story on multiple occasions and often the truth only comes out after it has been reported by another outlet. >> katlyn used the phrase by the books. seth, here's my question. trump says hey it's politics, everyone tries to get dirt on someone, everyone is doing it. let me point out federal law yolk makes it a crime for any person to solicit accept or receive any contribution or anything of value from a foreign person or for a u.s. campaign or for the purpose of influencing an election for federal office.even though seth they say they didn't get any dirt on hillary clinton was that meeting against the law, given that the intent was there? >> well, potentially, yes. i hear the defense and i don't think the defense is very strong. if i try to rob and bank and i walk in to open up a safe but the safe is empty, i can't say it is a nothing burger. it is an attempt at criminal activity. in this instance, the reason why this yet another u-turn by the president on the trump tower meeting is that once it again it changes the narrative. the president thrown under the bus is his son donald trump jr. several legal issues come into play. they are high level and very serious. you arity absolutely right. this could give rise to an instance of an alleged conspiracy for aiding and abetting. a claim for violation of federal election law. there are other felony issues that potentially float out there as well. remember that donald trump jr. he bet the farm that this was an innocuous meeting about russian adoptions. he is all in on this. yesterday we have a complete president also is enveloped potentially in a criminal conspiracy for aiding and abetting violation of federal election law. this is an underlying felony. also keep in mind that if you are gone after for ating and abetting by the federal prosecutor's office the agent who is trying to assist the principal on aiding and abetting has the same criminal liability as the principal himself. there is very high risk that's involved in this situation. this is the latest u-turn on the story about what's going on here. and this is direct heat not only on the president directly with you indirectly because if his son ends up getting in a lot of legal hot water then that's going to create a major storm cloud that could be heading directly towards the white house. >> katlyn last question to you just on lying. we know that jay sekulow the president's attorney said over the weekend he is explaining his initial misstatement saying okay he didn't have all the information on trump tower. no. the meeting was about adoptions and then we find out it's actually about dirt. and then over the weekend hope hicks is seen getting on air force one. we don't know if the president lied to her or she lied to the american people. what do you think -- you cover this white house every day of lying in 2018? >> brooke, their credibility really at stake here. we have seen the white house make she is imts sta, these definitive statements saying the president had no role in the drafting of that statement. then the president's legal team goes against that and contradicts it in a memo to the special counsel when they said actually trump did play a role, he did dictate that entire statement. that has been a recurring pattern throughout everything with russia. the white house often complains about the focus of russia on reporters and on their reporting that they have on the white house. but we have seen their narrative change ever since president trump got into the white house. at first they said there was no contact at all with any russians. then they said there was no collusion. and now they are saying that the collusion is not a crime. as far as this goes, jake sekulow is not the only one who said that the president had no role in that statement. sanders, hope hicks, and kellyanne conway. it simply isn't the truth anymore. >> the truth comes out in the end. thank you both so much. coming up next, you tube, facebook, apple band together against info wars content from the hate spewing website and its leader alex jones have been taken down. hear how he is responding. and all eyes on that courthouse in alexandria, virginia, the federal courthouse as the key witness for the government, rick gates, takes the stand this afternoon and testifies against president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort. updates as soon as we get them. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. join the fight with the alzheimer's association. -morning. -morning. -what do we got? 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come on. give me a break. they started the war. i see them, i'm going to shoot them. bye. >> first of all, just on behalf of my two colleagues here at cnn, they never did that. and that call is reprehensible. a couple of members of the president's inner circle have publicly broke within the president over this. white house counsellor kellyanne conway and the president's daughter ivanka say they do not believe journalists are the enemy of the people. from media wars to info wars he suggested the sandy hook school shooting was hoax and that the september 1 th terror attacks were an inside job by the government. i'm talking about alex jones. he is the founder of info wars. and he is now feeling the heat himself. you tube, facebook, and apple all announcing they're removing his content from their platforms. here's how you tube explained its decision. quote, when users violate policies repeatedly like our policies against hate spreech, harassment or our terms preventing circumstance up vengs of our enforcement measures we terminate their accounts. with me now,ology ifr darcy. you were just saying to me you were surprised that they took this kind of action so swiftly? >> yeah, this happened very quickly, over the past 24 hours. it seems to have been prompted by apple. apple last night removed the entire library of alex jones's podcasts from their store. then we have seen throughout the day tech platform basically remove alex jones from their website after ammel removed that podcast. then facebook came out this morning, early in the morning and said they had unpublished info wars and other pages secretaried with alek jones. and you tube issued a suspension where they couldn't live stream decided to remove their you tube page all together. thousand we are seeing small tech platforms disassociate with alex jones. >> obviously what he spew is hate and it's abhorrent. how many folks are on the other side saying freedom of speech? >> a lot of people are, particularly jones's defenders are saying they are worried this might lead to other pages particular chi conservative media pages being removed. i think it's important to note that alex jones flagrantly violated a lot of the community standards that you tube, facebook, that apple have had in place for quite some time. if you look at it they say they removed them because they violated the standards but alek jones had been violating the standards for some time and they only took action after weeks of media pressure, after weeks of the media outlets saying you say this would violate your standards. why is this still allowed to be posted? apple was first at the bat last night with the removal of his content. and now we are seeing it. >> apple and then the domino effect. oliver darcy thank you so much. just in, we are now learning the so-called manhattan madam will testify before a grand jury this friday in the russia investigation. kristin davis is her name. she is a close adviser of roger stone. she met with mueller's team last week in a voluntary interview. this is clearly a sign that investigators have an interest in roger stone and his actions during the campaign. coming up next, rand paul is in moscow right now and has just invited russian lawmakers to washington. what is going on there? and the russian government giving a formal diplomatic role to former action star steven segal. details on what exactly he is expected to do. what will you discover with a lens made by essilor? committee and told those lawmakers that she had told white lies, remember, that was her comment, white lies on the job. with me now, evan mcmullen, former cia officer who ran as a third party candidate against trump in 2016. good to see you. >> good to see you brooke. >> i wanted to hone in on hope hicks. this is the very week -- the trump tower meetings are back in the center of the news. hope hicks, who trump dictated that false statement to, is suddenly on air force one. we don't know if trump lied to hope pics hicks about the meeting or if hope hicks just lied to the american people. either way, should she be in his orbit whatsoever? >> well it's certainly peculiar. the president has changed his story and his team has changed its story about that meeting time and time again. the more we learn, the more concerning that meeting is. and to have hope hicks turn up on air force one like this without a clear reason -- she's no longer a part of the administration. she has kept her distance it seems, at least publicly from the administration since. and to have her show up like this does raise concerns. and i would think that the special counsel would want to know if it can find out what kinds of conversations she had. did she talk with the president during this flight or during the weekend? did she talk about this meeting? were any agreements made? it does raise questions. >> i want to talk to you about the truth n. politics, i know people don't always shoot straight. but this break neck piece of news, and the walkbacks and oh, i didn't have all the information at first, and the lies -- i mean, evan at the end of the day what is this going to do to the american people? >> well, i think the first thing i would say is that truth is absolutely critical for holding our government accountable. we simply can't hold our leaders accountable to us. we can't -- we can't measure their performance. we can't know about their misdeeds and abuses of power without the truth. we have to know what the truth is. and we only have a few ways of really getting at the truth. we depend on our leaders in congress for example, exercising their article i power of the constitution in order to conduct oversight over the executive branch in particular. but we also depend on the media. the media is critical in that regard, too, asking tough questions, doing investigative work, and then relaying those details to the american public. we have to have that flow of information. and sometimes, by the way, it may not be correct. sometimes we may have to check thing. and stories develop and facts are clarified. and that's fine. but we must have a flow of information that approaches in an ever greater way truth all the time in order for us to -- in order for us to protect our liberty by holding our leaders accountable. >> speaking of shining a light, i wanted to ask you about republican senator rand paul. he's in moscow. and the news is that he has invited russian lawmakers back to washington. keeping in mind, this comes after this comment on cnn. >> who do you trust, senator, the american intelligence community, the american law enforcement community, or vladimir putin? >> what i would say is that all power needs to have checks and balances. i think our intelligence community has way too much power. >> what, evan -- what is rand paul up to here? >> you know it is hard to say. but i'll say this. rand paul has long been sort of in the isolationist or non-interventionist as he would like to say, camp in the republican party. and by the way, that part of the republican party grew after our intervention in iraq. many republican members of congress feel burned by that action. they believe it was, in retrospect, a mistake. so they sort of drifted into this -- i would call it isolationist camp. although i too believe that we shouldn't have intervened in iraq the way we did. but the situation though with russia is that russia also wants us to withdraw from the world. and you see the republican party now, sadly a portion of its base moving closer and closer to russia. the rest certainly is leading them into that direction. earlier on cnn as i was on my morning run i heard ancer view with someone, a fellow american, a trump supporter, talking about how trump is delivering on his campaign promises, and if he received foreign help from the russians, then so be it as long as he met his campaign promises. so you see that. that's obviously highly alarming. we can't have foreign powers having a say in our elections. again, then we can't hold our leaders accountable to us. they become accountable to other people. but what i'm concerned about is this move within the republican party that i think rand paul is now a part of of drawing closer to a foreign adversary while it attacks us. there is simply no excuse for this. >> well, speaking of that same foreign adversary, you now have -- we talked a lot about the putin/trump meeting and we still don't know. and high intel official don't note. here's what we do know. the guy on the screen, steven segal, who is by all accounts putt putin's bff is now the special envoy to the u.s. evan, do you think we will see steven segal visiting the oval office? >> i don't know. it would add to the bizarre world in which we now live. sure. why not? why not that? >> sure, why not? >> everything else is happening. it would certainly -- yeah, it certainly wouldn't surprise me at this point. but it would be bizarre. >> well, when it happens we will play the clip back where you said you wouldn't be surprised. evan mcmullen thank you for weighing in. coming up next, a new production of the diary of anne frank is featuring a cast of mostly hispanic actors. we will talk with the director live about the message he's hoping to send. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you might or joints.hing for your heart... but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. it's a high-tech revolution in sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed. it intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both comfortable. and snoring? 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(buzzer sound) holiday inn express. be the readiest. i knew at that exact moment ... i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it's not just picking a surgeon, it's picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. visit cancercenter.com/breast angeles. stan, welcome back. >> thank you for having me back. >> you tell me why you want to tell this story this way. >> well, actually, it started when i read a report of two of your cnn reporters about a jewish woman in los angeles who got connected with a latina mom and two daughters when her husband was suddenly deported and a priest in l.a. helped her and she created a safe house for the family because they were afraid of being deported by i.c.e. and e i went to the play of anne frank and i got very excited to start the dialogue of what that would mean for them. >> i want to come back on the second point. we have a clip of that cnn report you did read. here's the story of the jewish woman in l.a. >> reporter: off the grid since last year, say these two girls, both citizens born in the u.s., both in high school. i.c.e. deported their father for illegally crossing the border. their mother overstayed a tourist visa. the girls feared their mother was next. what's happened since then? when you had to pack up and leave. >> we became homeless for five months. we moved schools. we went somewhere else because we had to leave the city. we were sleeping from house to house. anywhere we could find. >> reporter: then they heard about an interfaith network of religious groups. pledging to resist trump's immigration policy hiding them in safe houses. even in spare rooms of homes. the network estimates dozens are being hidden at any one time and connected the family to this jewish woman. >> i grew up in a time when the holocaust was not so far behind me. >> reporter: she signed for the apartment, a cover for the family she's protecting. do you hear the echos of history here? >> 100%. i think there's a long feeling in the jewish community we cannot let this happen. it is our responsibility. what was done to us cannot happen to other people. >> so it's a hiding place of a different sort. >> yes. but i want to make it very clear that we are not changing the nazis into i.c.e. we are doing a word for word presentation of the 1997 broadway production that natalie portman starred in. it really is just my director's choice to cast these latin actors in the play. >> because you're casting them, what is the message to send? >> i'm hoping that the tragedy of anne and the holocaust can reach a whole new audience and use to educate. we are doing this out of hall of fame -- love and honor of her story. i would never demean her story and tonight because two of the actors that play anne and peter are 15 and 16 years old and came in to audition they said they didn't know the story of anne frank. >> oh wow. >> i had to read it in school. it was part of our curriculum. >> of course. >> today it is not part of the curriculum which i think is a sad fact. >> it is a sad fact but you will be educating people at the theater. before you tell people where to see it, i think you hit on it, 6 million jews were killed during the holocaust. how do you respoened nd to crit saying, stan, this is not the same? >> it's not the same. the only parallel i'm making is that there is a safe house in l.a. today for people and that there were safe houses in amsterdam and other places. that's the only parallel. the rest is art and people interpret it the way they do. i hope they come with an open mind and expecting to come to see the production in l.a. looking for i.c.e. members, you will be disappointed and also see a really heart-warming wonderful story to be told today. >> all right, stan. next month in wills los? >> i'll see you there. >> stan zimmerman, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, a growing and noticeable trend, members of president trump's inner circle including family and top officials disagreeing with the president on a number of issues. me land that trump praising lebron james and trump insults him. we'll dig in to what's behind this. chicken?! chicken. chicken! that's right, candace-- new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch-- bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat... mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! a whole world in all its beauty. three innovative technologies for our ultimate in vision, clarity, and protection. together in a single lens. essilor ultimate lens package. purchase the essilor ultimate lens package and get a second pair of qualifying lenses free. essilor. better sight. better life. because i didn't like the way things were going in washington and now i'm supporting danny o'connor because i met danny and i felt like he was very genuine, energetic, young, brings a new perspective. >> so this race is the final special election before the november midterms. getting a lot of national attention. president trump traveled to ohio over the weekend to endorse balderson. >> we must elect troy balderson. we have to elect troy. >> i need your vote august 7th. >> governor john kasich who endorsed balderson said the candidate every asked trump to come to ohio. he said he was honored to have trump there. polls open there in ohio tomorrow morning. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me here on this monday. 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god the world. you are going to exemption stories of discussions here no one will come to you did you say i'm free program tonight from born in germany from the news of easy town where i would say d w it comes to africa join us on facebook at g.w. africa. welcome to your mags we kick off today show with some really attractive female pharmacist here's what's coming up. some like it hot young condit she exposed her antics relating new calendar. infected are good and honest bug on tie works with bacteria conscious. and living the dream visit a unique permit house in norway. working the whole day in the fields or in a culture that as a female farmer doesn't sound that glamorous does it but maybe it could be an annual pharmacy calendar from the very end all syria is the perfect proof for the twenty nine thousand edition twelve young female farmers pose in the workplaces in sexy clothing this year's title is heroes off farming the aim is to publish the image of the farming industry with the pictures but if the calendar is sexy or just sixes. they are saying see hands on types and know how to get the job done whether it's a catcher in the rye spider woman going along after all wolverine in a glass house the twenty nine thousand young farmers calendar shows austrian and the very end women farmers as heroes of agriculture. the farmers role youth organization presenting their new pin up calendar in the unix hot point house just telling us the idea for this year's calendar is to simply present agricultural accomplishments on every farm of the forms an incredible amount of work each day from morning till night we presented that under the heading agricultural heras just to show how much fun is really do and how important her kind of lent and brings a harvest in really is. the photos were taken on two farms in bavaria for the six amateur bavarian models it was a very new experience. among them was twenty one year old bob. one of one hundred fifty applicants. that's on the calendar i think it's good that there has to be a connection to agriculture and not just anyone can take part and say i'm now i'm a farmer they really do check whether you have an agricultural background and difficult. grew up on this farm in bly shock in the or go i do strict. she still works on her parents' and grandparents' farm. she looks after the ten dairy cows and plans to take over the farm later on. elizabeth what i like is that everything comes together we work with animals plus i can drive the tractor some work the machine as i'm outside a lot so it comes together in general i like it the way it is. the daily routine on the farm actually has very little to do with the staged and. those photos in the calendar. has been coming out every year since two thousand and one first only in australia now in two additions one with voters of women and one with men the key to winning photos is sent us images that dispense with outdated cliches about farmers . they show farming from its beautiful side and from the modern side to the theme for this year's calendar is especially up to date and i think it will go a long way towards modernizing the farmers' image so by. using pin ups for public relations there's nothing new australian firefighters pose with animals. a canadian beard and mustache clown put out a tale in cheek calendar. the german handy men and women cover up with sex appeal. it has to do with a target group that would hang this calendar in their office. it might be handed out very selectively or sold in stores. very often the target groups are male. you see that you can get attention or interest with a good open up or nude calendar. andreas parents can conduct research into sexualization and gender roles in advertising he says the i did sex sells still applies and the one in every three women seen in commercials is portrayed in a sexualized manner. if i consider the matter on the level of the individual i'm basically appealing to the human being's very lowest sexual drive. that worked a hundred years ago and will work one hundred years from now. on a society level we have to evaluate this from a far more nuanced perspective and today a more critical one is this kind of thing still desirable is this image of men and women in keeping with the times. in their spare. perhaps a handful of calendar makers a blazing new trails for twenty nine thousand a family erotic hot potatoes put out by bavarian potato farms is now put on auto potato walked with projected images. of the young the very in farmer's one cover up completely as long as it's part of the concept. religion says i don't always depends on the scene and says i have this here more buttoned up subjects fit better passionately no with another theme i might have totally different accounts i understand i'm sixteen or just sexist that's still up for debate but one thing is clear these young farmers are trying to be good to have attention. from female farmers to museum of modern is much more all this is coming up in today's express. the south korean band b.t.s. has given their first concert in london the asian boy group is fifty building up a european fan base a concert in london's o two arena sold out within minutes. they radiate so much positive energy it's hard to find people like them they're just so like genuine i'm sure so i know that just being here would be like the closest i could be for there ever. be it here is the first asian band to reach the u.k. top ten the seven performers are in a book too with their album love yourself their next stops on amsterdam for then and paris. architect pierre demo was in berlin on tuesday to present his reworked design for the museum of the twentieth century to be built at the couture forum in germany's capital. which are. it's helped soak and demo have shifted the structure and most noticeably redesigned the facade after their original idea met with heavy criticism construction is set for completion in twenty twenty five. anyone who's ever felt vincent van cos paintings lacked action will now be dazzled by the light and colors visitors to an audio visual show at the palisades elaborate house in brussels experience the dutch painters works in ways they've never been seen before van gough died in eighty ninety but now cutting edge technology is bringing his paintings to life the touring exhibition will be in the belgian capital till january the sixth. the frankfurt book fair is in full swing again fall the seventy fifth time it's the world's most important phase of a print and digital content and it's also a huge cultural event it runs for five days on which many writers and experts from all over the globe present their work each year of a number of publications is impressive so what next to make your choice easier to put together a list of one hundred must reads translated from jim into english the books were chosen by our d w literature experts said nicky is a buff and david levitz he has the list with some classics and also some you may never heard of. alexanderplatz by alfred discipline written in one thousand twenty nine is a classic of world literature. a marvel of the deep by frank shouting it's a science fiction thriller and bestseller. is the story of a young man who loves soccer and loves sprawling even more. these three novels could hardly be more different yet they have one thing in common they're rolling clue down the list of one hundred german marks remains the very first such list to be devoted to german language literature in english translation it was compiled by sabina keyes of bach and david leavitt to literature experts a d w by their selection criteria purely subjective ones. we weren't that interested in print runs or sells figures but we're sure that if there were a dozen of us read the books on this list we'll get a whole new perspective on germany and europe. but some names that viewers might expect are missing from it's good to not on our worst that's true i don't think you'll care that much what we wanted to do is to paint a picture of twentieth century contemporary germany and europe we want to give people an introduction to some really fantastic authors that they don't know already. a few classics fully deserve places on the list it begins with thomas money's good and brocks from ninety one an extensive multimedia project has been put together for the one hundred must reads with a bilingual website featuring articles essays and interviews. as well as one hundred video clips introducing each book from a very personal point of view. sometimes i think books are more exciting than real life. you've never read a book like this one just don't expect a romantic happy ending if you have any illusions about the glories of battle payback. dr pierce. nobles about the nazi era and the holocaust feature prominently in twentieth century german language literature. and titles dealing with the subject such as the world famous tin drum by going to cars are often among the first to be translated so they tend to shape the image of german literature abroad . been really surprised to see the. tone where the books that i've read and even when the books are doing directly with the darkest chapters of german history there's still so much variety there is there's so much there's so much wit so i wanted to show that german language literature isn't all weighty and saturated with history it can also be nice and entertaining it's everything that makes up germany itself. some world famous fantasy novels come from germany from people like cornelia from one of the world's best known authors for young people japanese german author yokota water is included with an unusual tale about the family of berlin's renowned in beloved polar bear clint lesser known writers ran side by side with bestselling mainstream office. and nobel prize laureates in literature. the selection has of course drawn criticism. who dreamed up the idea for the one hundred german must read project welcome. everyone who sees this list will immediately start thinking about isn't this or that missing for his one too many why is this one on it's not the other one that's how it is with all is all rankings and that's just how it should be going also so there should be discussion and as far as i'm concerned over german literature we're going to work. but as important as in-depth literary discussions may be there has to be time left over to be. to read. and breathe is live longer live longer. and to go along with ads you can find more information about the one hand it must read selected by our experts on a web special just go to com slash one hundred mosques test reet you will not only find the list but also videos stories and much more well in the past we have come across a lot of european artists but no one in our next report creates really unusual works he likes to capture the beauty of decay but i'm based. for tug a few slides and infect them with. to create a whole new effect he shows us how it stop. and al bush two are infected with bacteria. or lady macbeth fighting against germs whoever knew that pathogens could be so artistic. that's what's nice is that each bacterium has a different effect so nature is constantly surprisingly. both going down to started using bacteria in his art thirteen years ago today he's photographing bottle cellini's venus after lincecum elder gallantly the photos will serve as a basis for his next project. his studio is like a wizard's lab this is where he infects his slides with all sorts of funky and bacteria. the work i do for me is incredible i couldn't paint something like this or think it up so i can only learn from nature and use it to meet my goal listen that's what's so fascinating. that's the first thing that someone. although he's been doing it for so many years he's always amazed to find out how the germs have reacted she even talks to them. well now that it's one should. go to something else these are the stranglers from my last big bank to rise engine campaign they've been in the incubator for two months already and usually it's rare to find anything good after so much time but one of them's not bad i might be able to use it. almost every day he seeks out the best reactions from hundreds of slides. he developed an interest in bacteria when he was a student. he experimented with them in his parents' bathroom but it wasn't a completely on with business and he managed to infect himself more than once it was sometimes quite painful. hi i used to work with and then if something its time would scratch my stop so basically all the body orifices were in danger it was worse for my eyes for sure swims now he works with scientists and laboratories all over the world collectors are willing to pay several thousand for his works. it could do it no it's not there are people who are taken aback and disgusted when they find out what they're looking at or before hand they usually find works is statically pleasing. it's time to switch off your mind that's why i asked not to tell people right away to his horse if i. can counter a man infected by the beauty of both bacteria and bar to challenge the nice. now we'll have a listen to a really unique radio program at angel radio most of the presenters are over seventy and by the way please don't call them d.j.'s they don't like it this radio station in the english town of haven't caters to the tastes of the elderly and it's quite successful whether it's music and memories there's nothing a radio station is not only popular but it's also one humorous warts we wanted to find out more about some favorite golden oldies soap the matter with the marriage friends one of the stars of the program. one of angel radio's top presenters arrives at the studio in the town of havent in southern england eighty six year old molded french spins discs here favorites from the one nine hundred thirty s. forty's and fifty's. we can call their sales d.j.'s to be very. d.j.'s a people talk over the top records is something we can do. if people request is something they need to hear it in total. mildred is one of eighty volunteers at the station most of them are over seventy she's played music here for eighteen years when we were off air that time and we had to find. somebody a bit worried about is this and if you haven't you know he said then he said i know what it's like to have my life support turned off it means now. say this is why we sit here and do it. the receptionists take requests for songs from listeners they often have long conversations with loyal fans in southern england and thanks to the internet around the world tony smith founded angel radio in one thousand nine hundred nine when no other station was playing his favorite songs it became about more than just music what did very quickly discover were the lonely people were phoning a saw and asking for record requests bartz they really just wanted to chat it's just 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a synagogue in pittsburgh shooting is being investigated as a hate crime. we're expecting the police will update the public on the tragic events this morning in pittsburgh. here in the meantime is what we do know where, that ten people were killed. six others were injured, including among them, four police officers. the gunman is in custody and wounded and made anti-jewish remarks, comments during the shooting. he has been identified. he is 46-year-old robert bowers. cnn has learned that he frequently targeted jews on social media. particularly on a platform called gab, posting just today can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. screw your optics. i'm going in. president trump has reacted to this shooting just moments ago. >> with one unified voice we condemn the historic evil of anti-semitism, and every other form of evil and, unfortunately, evil comes in many forms. we come together as one american people. >> all right. let's get right to the scene, and our sonja mogi, who has just arrived there in squirrel hill. sonja, what are you seeing? what's the latest? >> i have reported on other mass shootings. this scene is eerily quiet. i'm not seeing a lot of people walking around outside. it is raining, but, you know, when i was in orlando, you saw people immediately surrounding that nightclub. law enforcement vehicles are -- many, many law enforcement authorities are behind me at the scene processing that scene right now, but as far as bystanders, there's not the usual, and i think part of the reason is neighbors here are shocked, and we are hearing more details about those moments coming out after the shooting. in fact, we just got audio on a dispatch call of the moment the shooting happened, and those calls to 911. let's take a listen to those right now. >> tall white mail, short hair, light blue shirt, jeans. >> i got one. >> back in one right now? still alive. we have four down in the atrium. doa. >> i many a report of at least one victim in the basement. >> i have an additional four victims. four victims in the second story atrium off the front hall. >> what's your status in the basement? >> 12 at the bottom of the stairwell. working room to the right. we have blood. >> that audio showing the moment of chaos right after that shooting and then during that shooting neighbors telling me that many of them here in this neighborhood called the squirrel hill neighborhood here in pittsburgh sheltered in place and didn't know if it would be safe to go out. it is safe now for them to go out. authorities say that there's no immediate threat here. now we're simply wondering who has been one of the ten people who have been reported dead, wondering if it's anyone they knew themselves. >> that lockdown has been lifted. we understand there's been a perimeter setting up. sonja in squirrel hill, pittsburgh. thank you so much. now, we're also getting new images from the suspect's social media accounts. it appears that he posted photos of his gun collection, what he called his glock family, as well as those targets from a firing range. joining me now to take a look at all this are, again, cnn's crime and justice reporter shimon and cnn law enforcement analyst, former fbi supervisory special agent josh campbell and former assistant director for the u.s. marshall's office art roderick. art, let me start with you. i don't know if you are able to hear that dispatch there, the audio. what was your take-away? i mean, it was very calm and collected, but, obviously, a very intense situation. >> yeah. alex, you know, i have been part of training regarding first responder training that we held within department of homeland security, and you listen to those radio transmissions, and that's exactly what it sounds like when these first responders go through that type of training. they actually have role players that will actually assume the positions of the victims and you hear that radio traffic and that's exactly how these types of incidences go down. it sounds like it's chaotic, but it's actually organized chaos. these law enforcement officers know exactly what to do, where to go to neutralize the threat immediately and then treat the victims and evacuate them as quickly as possible. that's exactly what you heard. you have listened to others like it. what's your reaction? >> it's similar to what i have heard in other situations. it is organized chaos. art is absolutely right. they train for this stuff, and they know kmbl what to do. what struck me is how not only are they looking for an active shooter, but their lives are now in danger. in the middle of this near pulling people out who are perhaps hiding. there is a part of this audio where they -- they're finally confront the shooter. they describe how he is crawling and turned over. we showed imalkz of the weapons that he owned that he posted on his social media. they talk about in the audio how they see a gun in his waist and a gun on his ankle, a hadn't gun. they also talked about in the audio about seeing a magazine for what looks like a high-powered assault rifle. we've heard the vice president, and even they describe the heroic efforts, and then, finally, they talked about what the suspect was saying about jews and so that's what -- they knew right away what they were dealing with, but just to think about how they went through that building. there were about four floors that they were searching. they went to the basement to search for people, searching for him. really making this situation -- well, preventing it from being far worse. we've dwotd these pictures here. you have confirmed that he did have a license to carry. >> that's right. our law enforcement contacts are telling us that he did have a valid firearms carrying license there in pennsylvania. he made a number of purchases, lawful purchases of firearms since 1996. again, we don't know what particular weapon was used in this incident, and whether that was one that we're seeing on our screen or, you know, one that he had actually purchased legally. that we still don't know. i will say one thing that's very chilling as we talk about this transcript now that we're getting, we look at this it's safe to bet these officers continue to move through that location in order to identify where the person was to try to take them into custody, and just custody just very schilg listening to this, particularly that one line. we need armor. i think they knew what they were in for. >> there's no doubt that this is an anti-semitic attack, and we've already figured that out in the first moments after this. the president has officially declared this to be an anti-semitic attack. he made some remarks earlier today. let's take a listen. >> what happened today is a horrible, horrible thing. we're learning a lot about it. it looks definitely like it's an anti-semitic crime. it's something you wouldn't believe that could still be going on. >> art roderick, i want to go back to you. we've seen this time and time again. these mass shootings. has anything been done to try to stop this? >> well, alex, i don't think much has been done. you know, some states have passed laws to make bump stops illegal. a few of them have. really, nothing has been done, and we keep going sort of over the same record over and over again every time we had one of these shootings. the thing that, you know, that i thought about here after this horrible week of hate and we had, you know, the mail bomber who esspoused white supremacy, which is anti-semitic and anti-immigrant, and now we have this individual espousing the same exact stuff. was the mail bomber the same -- >> we're going to cut you off. there's a press conference underway. let's take a listen. >> i'm the public safety director of the city of pittsburgh. to my left is scott schubert and chief of police. first off, on behalf of the city, our hearts go out to all the victims that have been involved in today's tragedy. these incidents usually occur in other cities. today the nightmare has hit home here in the city of pittsburgh. as you're well aware, a tree of life synagogue at 5898 wilkins avenue at 9:54 this morning calls were received at the alleghany county emergency operations center that an active shooter was inside the building. at 9:55 officers were dispatched. apparently initial confrontation between the subject and the officers occurred injuring two of the officers. two additional officers were injured during the altercation. those were swat officers. multiple agencies responded to this incident this morning, and without their courage, this tragedy would have been far worse. those include numerous state, county, and federal agencies as well as neighboring ems services along with the city of pittsburgh. additionally, the dispatchers, the physicians, nurses that assisted in this incident should also be commended. there were 11 fatalities as a result of the shooting incident. there were no children. there were additionally six injuries to include four of the police officers. that does not include the suspect. chief schubert has visited several of the injured officers. he will update you as well as the doctor will update and give you a current update on the victims that are currently being treated. personally, i would like to thank every agency that responded today as well as the dispatchers, the fbi. as you are aware, this is a federal crime, and both s.a.c. bob jones and u.s. attorney scott brady will discuss that. i would like to take a few minutes and allow scott shubert to discuss the officers, what they encountered when they arrived at the scene this morning. chief. >> as the director said, first and foremost, our hearts and thoughts and prayers go to the victims of this, and to our officers who responded. i can tell you by the time i got there, they were already starting to extract people. watching those officers run into the danger to remove people and get them to safety was unbelievable. for the swat officers, our swat officers and swat teams from around the region who were there who went into that active shooting and were able to apprehend that actor, i can't speak more for the courage that they have. two of the officers that were hit, as the director said, were the first responders to the scene and were engaged, and they're both in stable condition, and two from our swat team during an engagement inside the building were struck as well. we're going to thank them for the jobs they did and for saving lives, but we can't not forget those victims inside that synagogue who lost their life. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm bob jones, special agent in charge of the pittsburgh office of the fbi. thank you. certainly, the actions this person took today were hateful. we're in the early stages of this investigation, and over the next several days and weeks we will look at everything in the suspect's life. his home, his vehicle, his social media, and his movements over the last several days. at this point we have no knowledge that bowers was known to law enforcement before today. i want you to know that the law enforcement will work around the clock to get the answers to why this happened. that said, we ask for the public's patience in the coming hours and days as we work through this investigation. this is the most horrific crime scene i've seen with the federal bureau of investigation. members of the tree of life synagogue conducting a peaceful service and their place of worship were brutally murdered by a gunman targeting them simply because of their faith. the suspect's full motive is unknown, but we believe he was acting alone. at this time the fbi has significant resources in and deploying to pittsburgh from our laboratory division, our critical incident response group, our office of victim assistance, and our operational technology division. i can't say enough about the actions of the pittsburgh police, the pittsburgh police swat team, and the alleghany county police. had it not been for the quick and heroic response this would have been much worse. thank you very much. now i'll turn it over to governor wolf. >> thank you. i'm governor tom wolfe, pennsylvania. today words simply i can't express the sadness that all pennsylvanians feel for what happened today. i want to give my condolences, first of all, to the victims of this tragedy, their families, and their friends and to this community. the shooting is being investigated by the fbi as a hate crime. my heart breaks for the members of the jewish community. any attack on one community of faith is an attack on any community of faith in pennsylvania, and ip the jewish community across the kwemt and across the country to know that we stand in support of you as we, together, mourn this senseless account of violence. the shabat is a time of reflection and a time for finding peace. not for violence. pennsylvania's jewish community is strong, vibrant, and resilient. now is the time more than ever to come together and to support each other. i have spent today with first responders, with local leaders, and i am in awe of the bravery displayed by law enforcement, those folks to help keep people safe and to prevent tragedy. federal, state, and local law enforcement are working in concert to investigate this tragedy and to maintain public safety. at the state level the pennsylvania emergency management agency and the department of health are in contact with local officials to assist any, any, unmet needs. the pennsylvania state police have been on the scene already and are coordinating with federal and local law enforcement. pennsylvania state police's swat team, the helicopter, canine units, and bomb technicians have all responded and are all assisting. my thoughts right now are focused on the vimsz, however. their families, their friends, and making sure that law enforcement has every resource that they need. in the aftermath of this tragedy, we must all come together, and we must take action to prevent these tragedies in the future. we simply cannot accept this violence as a normal part of american life. good afternoon. i'm the united states attorney for the western district of pennsylvania. today is a tragic day for pittsburgh. it's a tragic day for our brothers and sisters in the jewish community. on behalf of the attorney general and the entire united states department of justice, we want to express our deepest and most heart felt condolences to the victims and their loved ones, the jewish community, and everyone who is affected by this terrible and unspeakable act of hate. i spoke with general sessions today, and he wanted me to express his condolences and know that he stands with pittsburgh and with pittsburgh's jewish community. the actions of robert bowers represent the worst of humanity. where he expect to file criminal charges shortly. perhaps as early as today. please know that justice in this case will be swift and it will be severe. i want to echo the comments of chief shubert and the bravery that was exhibited by the swat teams of pittsburgh police and the alleghany county police. they ran towards gunfire to keep people safe. they exetch few today the best of all of the traditions of law enforcement and to the pittsburgh police. know that we're working together with our federal, state, and local law enforcement partners to gather all the facts. the cooperation of law enforcement has been outstanding. i was at the scene today, which as we stated by special agent jones was a horrible scene to witness, and, yet, all of the federal, state, and local partners stood together in concert and are working together to solve this. we deeply appreciate the response of the pittsburgh police, the fbi, alleghany county police, and all of our law enforcement partners who are working so hard. know that we will work day and night for justice for the victims of this crime and please know that we'll continue to update you as we are able. thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm dr. done kneely. i am a professor of emergency medicine, and i oversee emergency medicine for umc and the university of pittsburgh. at about 10:00 this morning we became aware of the incident, and very quickly we were able to put together the resources that we have available every day at the level one trauma centers. that includes upmc presbyterian and upmc mercy and we notified alleghany general. we were able to dispatch to the scene three physician who's have expertise in ems working with peace officers and our outstanding ems providers to help assess the scene and help accomplish triage. we're blessed here to have the finest ems providers in the country and we're blessed because people have invested in people and in resources over decades to make sure that we have that type of excellence. the patients were all transported to one of three facilities. four patients came to upmc presbyterian. one to upmc mercy, and the final patient went to alleghany general hospital. i can give you a listing of what those particular patients were. i obviously cannot give you personal information. first patient was a 61-year-old female who had extremity soft tissue injuries that required cleaning in the operative room. she's doing well now in recovering. next was a 70-year-old male who had gunshot wounds in his torso involving major organs inside of his abdomen. beyond what we call a damage control laparotomy. that is an operation to get the initial injury under control where we expect to have to do a second or third operation later. he is now having that second operation now. he is obviously in critical condition. a 55-year-old officer was also seen who had multiple extremity wounds. went to the o.r., again, for repair and cleaning of those wounds, and, then, finally, another officer had essentially soft tissue injuries and grazing and was having a complete evaluation. looks to be doing fine now. those are the four patients at upmc presbyterian. another officer went to upmc mercy. had an extremity injury that required intervention and evaluation in the operating room. again, that officer is doing fine. happy to answer any questions if you have those. >> did it seem like perhaps any sort of special type of bullets may have been used that would create any extra damage or something to that extent? >> i don't have any direct knowledge about that, but not from the injury pattern it did not appear that way. [ inaudible ] >> there were some with multiple injuries and some with singular injuries. again, this is something that we're prepared to take care of every day. i'm very proud of the team. we had extra physicians available, nurses available to take care of whatever could happen. when we first heard of this, we knew that there were a few patients injured, some dead. we did not know the size and the magnitude of this and so we were prepared to take care of as many as were necessary. [ inaudible ] >> i do not. >> do you have the age of the other two officers? >> the officer that went to mercy is 27. the fourth one at presbyterian i don't know his age. he is younger than me. >> are he this all male officers. >> yes. >> can you give us the breakdown of the patient conditions? >> i would describe two as in critical condition. they're in the icu right now. one of whom returned to the operating room. the others are doing well. we would not -- there is obviously seriously injured, but i would not describe them as critical. >> the second patient that is critical, you tension e mentioned a 70-year-old male. other than the 55-year-old officer -- >> yes. >> we'll take a few other questions. one at a time. >> question for the special agent. can you talk, sir, about the caliber of ammunition and perhaps the weapon that was involved? >> i don't know the calibers at this point. we think one was an assault rifle, and we know that the suspect had at least three handguns upon him at the time. >> what? >> an assault rifle and three handguns in the facility. >> was it clear how he -- >> don't know at this time. >> do you know whether he had any specific connection to tree of life or that location. >> do not know that at this point. >> how old is the suspect? >> he is a pittsburgh resident. i don't know his able at this point. >> whatsoever precautions are being taken entering his apartment. >> we would take all precautions as we would with any search warrant. we don't know if other weapons are in there, but we would proceed with caution. >> is the bomb squad part of that process? >> we would put the bomb squad in any scenario like this where we would anticipate the devices, but we have no information at this point that there are any ied's present. >> how long was he in the synagogue before he was brought into custody. >> approximately 20 minutes. >> whatsoever condition is the suspect in? is he speaking with law enforcement? >> i'll turn it over to wendell. >> i will not get into whether or not he is speaking with the authorities. however, my understanding was he was transported to the alleghany general. he is in fair condition with multiple gunshot wounds. >> was he wearing any body armor? >> i do not have that answer at this point. >> do any of the investigators have that answer? flack jacket, body armor? >> don't know at this point. >> can you tell us about the service that was going on inside the synagogue? >> i know a service was taking place. i'm not quite sure of exactly which kind. >> there have been reports it was a baby naming. >> we heard that as well. >> you can't confirm -- >> i cannot confirm that at this time. >> was the gunman shot by police or self-inflicted gunshot wounds. >> we believe it was police, but definitive determination will have to be done with the investigation being conducted by the fbi. >> what are the ages of the people that were killed? is there any information about them at this point? >> we do not. we're hoping to have a follow-up press conference tomorrow, and at that time a representative from the medical examiner's office. >> are there children among the deceased? >> no children among the deceased. >> were they present? >> we are still talking to the many witnesses at this point, so -- >> did the gunman shout anything before he opened fire? >> we don't have that information at this point. >> are local synagogues in pittsburgh on lockdown at this time? >> i don't know about lockdown, but we will certainly make sure that the information is passed so they can take necessary precautions. >> should people of the jewish faith in pittsburgh be worried or be on alert, or do we think that the threat has been -- >> we think the threat has been eliminated. again, we don't think that anybody has been associated with this gunman, but we'll continue to look at all angles in the conduct of the investigation. >> if i could just follow-up on that. pittsburgh bureau of police have been notified of numerous services that are being conducted, including a vigil tonight, and we will have adequate police protection at those sites. >> is there security at the synagogue? >> not that we're aware of. >> last question. >> what can you tell us about the suspect's movements inside the synagogue and what he actually did? >> after he entered the synagogue, it looks like at that point he murdered the 11 parishioners. i believe he was exiting or in the process of exiting the sun going when a pittsburgh uniformed officer engaged him. that pittsburgh officer was subsequently wounded. he withdrew, and as he was withdrew, the defendant or the suspect went back into the synagogue in order to hide from swat officers who were moving twashds the scene. that's all we know at this point. >> what's his status medically? is he injured? >> he is. >> i'm sorry. one clarification on the weapon. you mentioned an assault rifle and three handguns. is there evidence that he used all of those weapons? >> i don't know that at this point. we'll look at the crime scene in detail this evening and know more. i'll know in the morning. >> thank you, everyone. [ inaudible ] >> the most horrific crime scene i have ever seen. that's what the pittsburgh fbi agent in charge called today's shooting at the tree of life synagogue. local and federal and medical officials there briefing the public on the latest about this morning's shooting. we now know that the death toll has risen to 11 people when the gunman opened fire. this morning none of those 11 were children they said. six others were injured, including four police officers, some of whom were critically. we should note that none of those six include the actual shooter. in terms of a timeline, at 9:54 a.m. a call came in reporting the active shooter at the synagogue. swat teams then went into an active shooting mode to apprehend the suspect who we now know is 46-year-old robert bowers. we also know that the suspect, according to law enforcement officials, was not known to them before today and that he was believed to be acting alone. the motive remains officially unclear, though it is plainly evident that it was anti-semitism and charges are expected to be filed soon, possibly today. the fbi has said that they are investigating this as a hate crime. i want to bring in my panel again. shimon, crime and justice reporter. josh campbell and art roderick. josh, first to you. among the wounded, so the seventh wounded, is the shooter. >> that's right. what we've been asking ourselves up to this point is what happened the moment the person was taken into custody? was there an exchange of gunfire? how did the wounded, the injuries actually take place, and we're learning there from officials that they're saying that the officers were wounded. there were four officers injured in this incident, and interestingly enough, the subject himself suffered what the official was calling multiple gunshot wounds. the subject was in the hospital now and described as in fair condition, but that describes that there was at least some exchange of gunfire. both sides injured here. one thing that's interesting, i can only imagine what that crime scene looks like right now. you mentioned the special agent in charge. i know bob jones, he is one of the most buttoned down, emotionless by the books, just the facts person and say this is the most horrific thing i've seen in my career. just stunning. >> you could hear the emotion in all of their voices. art, back to you. we did listen to the audio, the dispatch earlier. now we've got a little bit more color, a little bit more information about how this unfolded, what the response was like. how well did local and then federal law enforcement respond? >> i'll tell you, they did exactly what they're supposed to do. as a matter of fact, on the very first page of the training sill bus, it says right in the second paragraph, you must assume the position of a warrior. you have to go in as quickly as possible without hesitation, but being tactically soubd without any regard to your own safety, and that's exactly what these officers did. these men are heroes. you know, going up against an assault rifle, luckily it sounded like there was a couple swat team members there that probably also had assault rifles, but assault rifles are made for one thing, and that's to take down a human being and try to create as much tissue damage within the body as they can. if he is using an ak-47, which is a large caliber assault rifle, that is a very deadly weapon, and that's why we have the fatality count as high as it is right now. >> all right. art, we now know that the mass shooting suspect also posted on social media six minutes before the first police call. i'm going to quote from that. he wrote i can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. screw your optics. i'm going in. we now know it's left 11 people dead at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. shimon, law enforcement also saying that he acted alone, which will always make it more difficult to anticipate these types of things. >> there's no way we could have anticipated this unless someone comes forward and says that he was talking about it. by every indication, certainly what josh has been hearing, is that these weapons were purchased legally. so far there's nothing to indicate that he did anything illegal in purchasing these weapons, that there were any issues with that. right now it doesn't seem like there's anything they could have done to prevent this. sometimes we do hear about things down the line. again, i think we have a good understanding now of what went on inside the synagogue, and it really is chilling when you think about i think 20 minutes or so that police were inside with the suspect trying to bring him down and successfully they did. they shot him, and even then we don't have this audio yet, but they talk about him crawling, them trying to get him to surrender, really and then in the middle of all that, trying to rescue people, get people out that have been injured. we'll see how far back they go in terms of whether those present any red flags. >> they usually -- they always do. we always now are finding social media posts. he is joining us now. rabbi, your congregation. your synagogue, we understand, is just two blocks away from the tree of life synagogue there in squirrel hill. first, you knew -- you know the rabbi of that congregation well, and i imagine you know many of the worshippers. what's your reaction to this horrific attack? >> that's true. when we gather for shabat worship, for sabbath. prayers of peace. it's horrific. >> we've spoken with experts about the significant upstick in anti-semitic incidents. when you see something like this happen, are you surprised? can you tell me about the general feeling across american jewish communities in terms of the threat? a gunman coming in with guns blazing and innocence in schools and churches. it's not the first house of worship that this has taken place. seik temples, african-american churches. now here in pittsburgh. we're just torn asundayer, our community. what can turn into deadly danger? >> i think we just have a culture today that is rife with guns and inflamed rhetoric. i think there is a tremendous sense of loneliness and alienation that's part of our cultural fabric today. we're seeing the populist fraying at the edges, and that is how they can come to any community at any time, and none of us can any longer rely on our sense of security or the notion that our communities are sealed from the les rest of the world. we're all at vulk as anyone else anywhere on the globe today. >> we have spoken to a number of people there on the ground today. some members of pittsburgh's jewish community. i imagine you have been speaking all day with fellow members of the jewish community. how are people doing? what are they saying? >> we're all just in shock. this news began to trickle out for us just as our service was beginning. we weighed how to share this with the people that are gathered peaceably in our sanctuary. we went on lockdown, let them know that an incident was unfolding. that we were in partnership with the local police and law enforcement and that we were doing the safest thing we could do and focussing our thoughts on what we can control, which is the opportunity that we have to support one another. now as we begin to learn the full impact and the scale of this tragedy, we're all just beginning to only now to absorb it and to imagine what this will mean for our community going forward. >> all right. rabbi aaron bryce, our deepest condolences to you and to the other members of the community there in pittsburgh. we're going to take a quick break. much more of our ongoing coverage right after this. where are mom and dad? 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violence against children. this is g w news live from berlin a day after the easter sunday suicide bombings in trying to and issue did terrorists succeed because political leaders did nothing to stop them investigators say they believe a domestic terror group was behind the attacks which killed almost three hundred people intelligence chiefs and say they warned the country's president two weeks ago that islam is were planning suicide attacks on churches yet no action was taken also coming out of the upper house of russia's parliament approves the country's controversial new internet bill it aims to keep more traffic strictly inside the country critics fear it will mean a crackdown on dissent. i'm burnt off it's good to have you with us we start tonight in sri lanka where authorities now say that a little known local terrorist group carried out the bombings that killed almost three hundred people on sunday intelligence chiefs warned the country's president two weeks ago that the new group known as national the wheat. were planning attacks and even passed on the names of suspects of that revelation has the country searching for answers tonight after a day of carnage and heartache that could have possibly been averted. this family's life has been torn apart. a husband a father has been taken from them and they have not just lost a loved one but a breadwinner is the dead man's brother fears. that i. know he's gone i'm worried about the effect it will have on the lives of his wife and his daughter. the real question is what will happen to their future. i mixed dreamily sad that i got. well some stare in shock and disbelief at what has befall in them. many are unable to contain their grief as the scale of the tragedy sinks in. that most of the dead are sri lankan many including at this church north of the capital which children. dozens of foreigners were also killed among them nationals from the u.s. britain turkey india china portugal and denmark. alongside the sadness there's also a growing sense of outrage. this is a very sad moment this is a very comfortably. it's not just an attack it's a very gross who submitted on humanity. in the aftermath of the carnage sri lanka is a nation in shock and one looking for answers. all right we want to get more now from the capital colombo i'm joined on the telephone by journalist charles medina i mean it's good to have you with us let's talk a little bit about what is happening right now we understand the country is now under a state of emergency and security forces we understand today initiated a controlled blast is all of this all of that mean that the threat still remains in sri lanka tonight. so as a. country the state of emergency and as you were a correctly set of a evening because we think oh it has. been very because we have a regular with the financial means that the first. went off on funding. i think yesterday there have been seven explosives have been found and. i think. it was the sort of big. funny thing is. that the kind of these are very much still alive and it's really what we know about the groups that has been blamed for this attack we know it's a domestic islam is national so we what we know about this group. yes so brenda strangles has minister made this announcement today often on leave a big shock and surprise as well because this is not at all the nice patient which we have heard of before but what we are now hearing is that it's a local the central feature has formed in the country the natural tell huge amount and now you're looking into the possibility of fritted this acquittal because had any funny reading may be answered i think. and what about the fact that intelligence had informed the government about possible terror attacks like we saw on sunday and nothing was done i mean in political infighting i think is what we've heard today be held functional is the government interlaken tonight is there going to be political phone. yes actually the country isn't as these states are shock and anger ever since prime minister running to come i think that they announce that the police have trying to mention about a possible terror attack and nothing has been done or steps have been taken to a why did. the government as us now is obviously continuing to function but the end game has got to the government gaming intelligence office has the saying that report has been handed over to the president the president has yet to make a statement on that we are going to see cause among convening for special session tomorrow that time is running become a single adult position or these are going to make two separate special statements . because he asked me i'm off strong at the moment and the coming two days is going to be extremely crucial for the government to see if they can continuing problem is there a concern that as a result of these attacks and disposable infighting that sri lanka will see now more. heavy handed ruling are you worried about their. credit want to have. a message to anyone can forget about any kind of story i mean it just give us a oh if we did we as a nation will cop to terrorism once again we thought we had defeated terrorists and ten years ago so we were all on sunday to definitely there's going to be. like. from now on but i mean we are seeing that already happening at the moment but police have become questioning and they have been going into their peers they've been going into houses they've been asking for the documents to short that they have been leaving here going to be getting the freaking. some tycoon we seven to come up and several months to why they voted on if you want information to be free i'm sure we certainly can under stand that. journalist on the phone tonight talking with us from colombo the capital of sri lanka thank you controversial new internet legislation in russia today became law of the land after parliament gave its final approval supporters say it will protect the country from cyber attacks by keeping is much internet traffic as trustable on russian servers that critics say is just the latest tool at the kremlin's disposal or stamping out political dissent. about political and social problems in russia he thinks the new little could spell the end of internet freedom. when the law comes into force and all businesses comply with it with our secret services will soon be able to read all our communications although i find that shocking richard spertzel the legislation officially called the lore on the autonomy and stability of the internet aims to isolate the russian internet from the global network information would only be exchanged via russian service a new government watchdog would be able to monitor that traffic and political act and pleat lee in the event of a major cyber attack if you could we must put a stop to extremist and radical propaganda on the internet and. aside from the official purpose of counteracting cyber terrorism the law also seems to have an economic aspect russian search engines will be better able to compete with google us companies will have to store their data on russian service and either refuse will be banned from the russe net critics fear it will be used as a tool to silence dissident voices. my fear is that the law can easily be used against the wrong target and that we will be caught off the under the claim that we pose an external danger some experts doubt whether the technological capability exists to implement the law as planned in november. well here are some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world iran and pakistan have agreed to form a joint force to fight terrorism on their common borders it will act against groups within just down province that seek independence from both countries today's announcement comes days after militants from iran killed pakistani troops in southwestern baluchistan firefighters in the u.k. are struggling to put out a huge blaze on more land in yorkshire in northern england the fire started on sunday at marston more important conservation area and began spreading north it's thought to have been calls by a barbecue. all right to ukraine now where the t.v. actor and comedian of libya's alinsky has won in a landslide victory the country's presidential election selenski took seventy three percent of the vote his income but the trade for his rival the incumbent petro poroshenko managed only twenty four percent it is a crushing defeat for ukraine's political establishment at the hands of a political newcomer. it was a stunning victory for a political novice. ski has up ended the status quo in ukraine shortly after exit polls delivered him a landslide he addressed his supporters on social media. to what he said hello everyone which follows i wanted to thank all of you for joining me on this journey for the four months of important work great work that you did we did it together we united ukraine we united our people we united our country not just for you know the next world. the result was a bit of a blow for incumbent petro poroshenko who conceded defeat the divide to stay in politics par shank a had presented himself as an experience pair of hands but it seems many ukrainians were looking for a fresh approach where one week he says really i think we'll see some changes let's hope there for the better and that ukraine see some real developments of the eclipse but you know the most important thing is that the war in solution should remain the will you have to move the system we've nothing to lose things can't get any worse than they already are selenski is young and full of energy letting care if he's an actor and a clown we're going to see some big changes he'll be better than portion one hundred percent. but if you craniums believe fail to solve their problems it's not clear how selenski will either the closeness he's being to political power is playing a fictional president in a sitcom and while his campaign was media savvy it was light on concrete policy ideas. he inherits a country but end by a separatist war in the east rampant corruption and a sluggish economy so let's he has much to prove to voters hoping he'll usher in an era of change. well here in germany thousands of activists have taken part in annual march is for peace and nuclear disarmament organizers say that good weather and anxiety over the current state of the world led to a strong turnout one march in particular took on new significance this year as tensions between the u.s. and russia continue to roll. no weapons yes to world peace that's the message of peace to march which as the caller organizes it for you near nashville didn't relist in general. to mention how people are scared to be a nuclear war and he would be one of the first targets. realized and i think the concern is spreading. the air base in vishal is believed to have a twenty american nuclear bombs in underground storage bunkers in the event of a war they would be dropped from german tornado fighter jets the german government refuses to confirm or deny their presence since u.s. president tunnel trump and russian president vladimir putin ripped up the i.n.f. nuclear nonproliferation treaty the fears of these demonstrators have increased. so much i believe nuclear weapons are a great danger and don't want to have american nuclear weapons here in germany it was a. mistake but it's important to come out and show our support for a better peaceful world without nuclear weapons they're a danger to us all. if you don't do anything nothing will change right. at the end of the march the four hundred demonstrators rallied at the entrance to the air base you have to look around you there are a lot of young people here today and that makes me feel optimistic twelve intends to march again next and hopes to see even more young faces in the crowd. or sports news now in the west you. aim of match day thirty and in the german bundesliga frankfurt were denied a crucial day three points against both spoiled both teams shared the spoils in an evenly fault match the deadlock wasn't broken into the seventy eighth minute when it went on the books men fired home from close range to give frankfurt the week victory looked assured for the eagles blight john evan he books popped up in injury time to level the whole sport and that's how one finished one one the final school . you're watching t w news up next today's biggest business stories you tell me business with stephen is right after the break stick around. i'm scared that if i work that hard and in the end it's a me you're not allowed to stay here anymore we will send you back. are you familiar with this. with the smugglers when lions and. what's your story.

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with the findings in the horowitz report. horrow its seems to be giving the fbi that part of the investigation saying it's a clean bill. they had enough reason to do this investigation. everybody who was interviewed cements to indicate they did not open an investigation. >> evan perez, thank you so much. joining our panel now, we have with us jim bakker. you are not singled out the report makes clear the fbi failed when it came to the administering the fisa warrants, too much was left out or not presented to the court. do you accept what the inspector general is saying? >> i am there are two big groups of conclusions, one is, it was not a politically motivated investigation and it was properly predicated with us going-forward with that investigation. it was malpractice for us not to open this investigation. all of the statements that it was a hoax are wrong. the investigation was not a coup or a coup attempt. >> having said that, he does point out many mistakes that were made with respect to errors and omissions. those have to be addressed, they should be addressed, both with respect to the individuals involved. the director chris ray is take ing -- it needs to have the confidence of the american people at all times, if things need to be fixed they should be fixed. >> a lot of civil libertarians have been processed for years say thing that fbi agents cooke the books. >> now we have some movement on that, it does say that somebody might be investigated for possible prosecution and fbi lawyer, i believe. >> that's my understanding from that report. that's my understanding he's been known for criminal investigation. >> nellie moore, bruce orr an fbi official recommends he be referred to the of professional responsibility. >> it's an internal watchdog specifically focuses on attorneys. they'll mike a decision with respect to any punishment or clarification that needs to be made. >> you have the attorney general criticizing the fact that the investigation started into associates of the trump campaign and very unusual the u.s. attorney who is currently leading into the origins of the russia investigation issued a statement in which he said last month, we advised the inspector general. we do not agree with how the fbi case was opened. what do you make of that? >> both of these statements are unusual. the attorney general statement in what he says is wrong. in addition he has the statement about the fbi investigation open on the thinnest of predications or thinnest of facts that's what the a. 'd ag guidelines permission. the guidelines were established by a republican attorney general in 2008 under president bush. those are the guidelines that the fbi has operated under since then if they don't like it, they can change that. the guidelines written in the post 911 era, to allow the fbi to open investigations on very thin information about what terrorists might be doing. they apply to counter terrorism cases and counter intelligence. he needs to be careful what he wishes for. >> with characteristic restraint here. but let's be clear about what what happened today. for years and years, donald trump has said that the fbi and the deep state was involved in an illegal conspiracy to bring down his campaign. that they relied on the steele dossier to investigate and launch this investigation and now after years of investigation the inspector general said not true. didn't happen. this conspiracy theory that the president of the united states has been pushing was a total lie. then we learn the attorney general is not happy with that, he wants to continue investigating and investigating and his handpicked investigator u.s. attorney durham out of the blue, out of nowhere comes out and says well, we disagree. based on what. >> he's not refuting it with any facts, he's just saying, we disagree, he could have kept his mouth shut and when his report comes out. >> it's something we got criticized for doing. there was a whole ig investigation about that, i would encourage the ig to take a look at mr. durham's statement. >> it sounds or it seems political which is what everyone at the fbi is accused of being. and the attorney general. and mr. durham in particular who hasn't issued a report, who hasn't shown us what he's got is saying, well, we disagree. you do? why? why did you feel the need to do that. the administration and the attorney general who is clearly charging everyone else seems to be critical. >> they are critical to the process. they are criticizing, certainly sending a conspiracy theory has been that everything was launched with the christopher steele dossier. papadopoulos is the true origin of that, however, we have been saying the fisa process is so important, the court is only as good as the information it receives, they have to give a benefit of the doubt and trust the investigators that give the investigation. if any part or layer of that is inaccurate. the court is at the mercy of them. the court is saying, hold on a second they should have said steele, understates his availability. that these admissions were so clear they should have done that. now, all these things are not against a rule, there's an ab sense of a rule due to that respect. a lot of what happened here does support the president's narrative, but there were people who were against them and not doing his bidding. that's okay if it's the fbi. >> it wasn't political. >> the president talks a lot about lisa page and peter strzok who have the text chain, in which they're saying many unkind things about then candidate trump. the report says, while lisa page attended some of the discussions, she did not play a role in the decision to open crossfire hurricane or the four individual cases. while strzok was involved in the four investigations. >> there were additional people, yeah. >> he was not the highest decision maker as to any of those matters. it certainly clears them of the idea that the investigation happened because of lisa page and peter strzok being biassed against him. the report says the opposite. >> the word to take away is scrupulously accurate. because of the omission, the ig report is saying, they did not go to such great lengths to have it be scrupulously accurate. there are ways to reform that, if you are going to require people to have all the information, it's going to take a toll on the intelligence community. didn't we hit it last week? we want to have a common theme of why everyone's against trump. >> do you feel vindicated, you've been cleared, not that you had a necessarily cloud above your head, but in terms of the aspersions that were being cast by president trump. as a neat, there's nothing in here about obama tapping his phones at trump tower. despite that long statement by the president. >> i'm glad the ig confirmed we didn't do anything wrong in the sense of trying to do some political -- misuse our power. we did not abuse our power for some political purpose. that's one of the key takeaways. people within the organization screwed up or made mistakes or left things out, that 150eseemse a valid criticism and needs to be addressed. i've been working on investigations for 30 years now. and most have mistakes in them. >> we're going to go back to gerald ed thnadler. >> the fisa applications and other aspects of the fbi's crossfire -- >> i think if we're going to -- >> the fisa report that just came up. >> we'll take that under advicement so we can review it. >> mr. sensenbrenner. >> i would like to follow up on the two series of questions that ranking member mr. collins directed to mr. goldman relative to the telephone company subpoenas, and the inclusion of certain information in the majority report from the intelligence committee. let me see that there are two issues involved. one that is not involved is the legality of the subpoena, i believe that was a subpoena that is fully authorized under the law and under congressional procedures. where i do have a problem and a really big problem, is the fact that somebody made a decision to match certain data, metadata that had been collected through the subpoena with phone numbers of journalists and members of congress. and that is the beginning of the surveillance state, which i think is outrageous, particularly since the freedom act in 2013, we curtailed the nsa's ability about that. now, had chairman schiff decided to man up and come here and talk, rather than hiding behind mr. goldman as chief investigator, as his sur gate i think we could have gotten to the bottom of this, and taken action to make sure that this never happens again. i do not want to see members of congress through their subpoena power being able to subpoena the telephone records of private citizens without any kind of cause or to match the numbers up with somebody else to see who they were talking to, and then going the next step and publishing the results of that match in a report that the minority hadn't seen until it was released. that i think is an abuse of power. we're talking a lot about abuses of power here in the white house and in the executive branch. here we see a clear abuse of power on the part of the people who are prosecuting this impeachment against the president of the united states. they should be ashamed of themselves. now, i come from the state where joe mccarthy came from. i met joe twice when i was first getting into politics as a teenager. folks, you have made joe mccarthy look like a biker with what you've done with the electronic surveillance involved. it's something that's going to have to put a stop to now. whether it was chairman schiff. i would have loved to put sharm schiff under oath so he could be required to answer the same way you have as one who has spent quite a bit of time accesses of the patriot act which i authored, with the freedom act which i also authored, the surveillance state can get out of control. this is a major step in the surveillance state getting out of control, in the hands of the congress. a majority party that wants to influence political decisions relative to politicians in this case, president donald trump that they don't like. and they haven't liked him from the beginning of his term. they have tried to talk about impeachment since the beginning of his term, they thought that the mueller report was going to be the smoking gun. it ended up being cap fiscal. now they're working on this. the steps think have gone. the violation of commence. the precedent they have started and looking at the way the chairman has conducted this hearing today and in the previous hearings not even to allow mr. gets to make a point of order, that he can't see what you put on the screen, i think goes against the enfire fabric of american democracy, shame on those who have done it, and if we want to get back to something objective, it's time to push the reset button. >> could i respond quickly? >> mr. chairman, i yielded back, i didn't ask him a question. i made a statement. >> the gentleman yielded back. >> mr. dolman, let's get to the facts again, during the phone conversation on july 25th, president trump was narrowly focusing on his own political surviva survival, using his public office for private and political gain, the truth matters. then we heard council for the republicans say the president's concern about foreign aid, because you could kiss it good-bye, assuming that's referring to anti-corruption. but lit's look at the facts of the july 25th call, i happened to read it recently. which sharply illustrates the president's willingness to abuse the power of his office for his own personal benefit. the memorandum of the call is on the screen in front of you, it shows that president trump says -- and by the way, right after president zelensky spoke about defense support, i would like you to do us a favor, though. sao this had is a president's own behavior in words. mr. goldman, what was that favor? >> the favor was to investigate a debunked conspiracy theory related to ukraine interference in the 2016 election. >> mr. goldman, the investigative committee has received evidence from multiple witnesses who testified that president trump was provided specific talking points in the july 25th call. is that correct? >>. >> the talking points certainly were part of the u.s. policy and they included anti-corruption efforts. >> those talking points were provided to help the president effectively communicate calls with foreign leaders, is that right? >> that is correct. it's a routine process that the security council does. the president is able to use them or not use them. the president is not required to use them. he not only veered off from them. but he went to his own personal interest. >> it is fair to say such talking points signal the purpose of a given call, correct? >> yes. >> witnessed testified that the talking points for the july 25th call included recommendations to encourage zelensky -- >> so to be clear, the talking points created for the president or the principles to discuss specific matters that really protect the american people, is that accurate? >> yes, generally. >> but witnesses such as tim morrison, the deputy assistant the to the president, testified about what was not in those talking points. >> m morrison, were these references to crowd strike, the server in 2016 election and to vice president biden and his son, were they included in the president's talking points? >> they were not. >> are you aware of any witness who testified that investigating the bidens was an objective of official u.s. policy? >> no, it was not before and it was not after this call. >> and anything ever found of those investigations that might have occurred. >> anything ever found of those investigations that may have occurred with respect to the former vice president. >> every witness said there's no factual basis for either of the investigations. >> so mr. trump did not use official talking points? >> correct. >> there were fact witnesses that confirmed that. >> when you hear those words, do you hear the president requesting a thoughtful anti-corruption program consistent with u.s. policy? >> mr. goldman -- >> i do not. we were hoping -- we recommended the president very clearly support what president zelensky run on his own election and what his server of the people party had run on in its election. >> that didn't come up in the call, did it? >> mr. goldman, did mr. trump utilize public trust in order to hurt his political opponent? >> yes, that's what the evidence shown. >> america's values of democracy and justice must have the vital pillars of truth. the truth matters. it's clear that the president really cleared about -- did not really care about fighting corruption in ukraine but wanted his own personal interests to be continued. the president poses a threat to pursue the truth, that is our duty, we're now proceeding to do our duty to find the truth. thank you mr. chairman. >> the gentle lady yields back, the gentleman from ohio. >> this is a second hearing on impeachment that this committee has held in the last week. i will submit that you're investigating the wrong guy. let's look at the facts, mr. caster, ukraine that's been at the center of attention in this impeachment hearing, has historically been one of the world's most corrupt nations, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> under legislation that congress passed, it was president trump's responsibility, his duty to see that u.s. tax dollars did not go to ukraine unless they were making progress in reducing corruption, is that also right? >> yes, that's right. >> and isn't it true that joe biden's son hunter placed himself right smack dab in the middle of that kruchgs? >> yes, he did. berisma is one of the most corrupt companies in the ukraine. >> acording to what they would have you believe -- they're not some sort of vast right wing conspiracy. in fact, the concerns about hunter biden were first raised by the obama administration, is that right? >> that's right, and also, washington post, a lot of publications and the state department. >> and the obama administration's concerns about biden didn't end there, did they? the former ambassador to the ukraine said she was coached by the obama administration on how to answer pesky questions related to hunter biden that might arise during her senate confirmation process. the state department was so concerned about this. they gave her a mock q & a on this question. >> every witness that testified at the intelligence committee agreed that hung theer biden's berisma deal appeared to be a conflict of interest, correct? >> that's correct. george kent testified that there was an investigation into berisma. and they were trying to track down 23 million that he had taken out of the country. and they were working with the united kingdom, they were working the united states, the united kingdom, ukraine was working on tracking this money down. and there was an investigation -- an active investigation going on. and a bribe was paid. that bribe was paid. it allowed him to get off scott free, right around that time is when berisma went about sprucing up their board shall we say. the democrats on the intelligence committee under chairman schiff, and now the democrats here are determined to sweep the biden corruption under the rug, ignore it, not let us call witnesses on it and rush to impeach the president to satisfy the radical left wing base. you have the vice president in charge of overseeing our ukrainian policy, and his son hunter biden receiving 50 grand a month with no identifiable expertise in energy or ukraine, yet the democrats won't let us present witnesses on that. let's do the next best thing since we can't bring the witnesses here, let's watch videos. >> you didn't have any extensive knowledge about natural gas or ukraine itself, though? >> no. the list you gave me of the reasons why you're on that board, you did not list the fact that you were the son of the vice president. >> correct. >> what role do you think that played? >> i think it is impossible for me to be on any of the boards i just mentioned without saying i'm the son of the vice president of the united states. >> if your last name wasn't biden, do you think you would have been asked to be on the board of berisma? >> i don't know, probably not. >> you know, joe biden got a little testy with a voter at one of his events in iowa last week, calling the man a liar, challenging him to a push-up contest among other things. and falsely stating once again that nobody said there was anything wrong with his son's deal in ukraine. well, you know what, that's a lot of malarkey. a lot of people have been saying that for a while, and they're right. first the intelligence committee and now this committee are conducting an impeachment investigation against president trump based on as professor turley put it last week, waiver thin evidence and ignoring evidence of a high level u.s. official who did engage in a quid pro quo with the ukrainian government, confessed to it in this video. >> i'm untiling you, you're not getting a billion dollars, i'm going to be leaving here, it was six hours, i'm leaving in six hours, the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. well, son of a bitch. he got fired. >> you're investigating the wrong guy, mr. chairman. >> thank you, sir. >> mr. goldman, i'd like to bring us back to the next president, not to this president, not the next president. and stay focused on the july 25 call. the president's abuse of office for his benefit and no one else's. my colleague confirmed the president's request for these investigations was not an objective of u.s. foreign policy, correct 1234. >> that's right. >> is there any evidence the national security council wanted an investigation into berisma -- >> no. >> any evidence about the state department wanting them? >> no no. >> how about the dod? >> no evidence of that. >> did any witness tell you that they wanted ukraine to investigate the bidens of the 2016 election? >> no. >> and we certainly know that the ukrainians did not want it either, they made it clear they did not want to be an instrument in washington domestic re-election politics. the only person who was a beneficiary from that investigation is president trump. and that's why everyone on the july 25 call knew it was wrong. they knew it was wrong. the investigative committee heard testimony from three witnesses who participated in that call, is that correct? >> yes. >> well, listened to that call. >> even in realtime, the witnesses who listened on that call, testified they were concerned by the call, is that correct? >> yes. >> and in fact, lieutenant colonel vin man and mr. morrison reported that call to the legal counsel right? >> yes. >> why did they do so? >> they did it for separate reasons. vindman was concerned that the call was improper. mr. morrison was concerned about the potential political ramifications if the call was released because of the substance of the call and the political nature of the call. >> and they reported the call, that they actually reported that to the internal legal channels. i placed colonel vindman's testimony about why he reported the call on the screen. am i correct that the call was based on the fact that the president was asking a foreign power to investigate a u.s. citizen? >> yes, and he was not the only witness to express that concern. >> am i correct that he reported this concern because he thought it was a sense of duty? a duty he felt something was wrong? >> as you know, lieutenant vindman was a purple heart winner from iraq, and he's been in the department of defense for 20 years. he has a great sense of duty and great patriotism to this country and felt compelled to follow that since of duty and report it. >> she testified as you brought out or was brought out earlier that it was unusual and inappropriate, is that correct? >> that's right. >> when vice president biden got involved with the european union and the imf and germany and france and said, you have to do something about corruption, that was okay because they were doing something for the common good of a bunch of people as distinguished from what's going on here, where somebody's doing it for their personal good, is that not correct? >> right, there's a distinction between doing an official act for an official purpose and a personal purpose. >> when mr. caster said that the -- there were problems because slocheski paid a bribe in order to get out from under the prosecution. that was exactly the type of conduct that vice president biden wanted to shut down in ukraine. that was exactly the type of nonanti-corruption policies that vice president biden was objecting too, using the official policy, that's one of the reasons that he -- i don't know if that's one, but that was the type of thing that he based -- he and the americans and the europeans -- >> that's the issue we have to get to, doing something for the national good, for the international good, the common good and your own good. that's the difference. those witnesses, many career, nonpart season officials were clear they thought it was wrong to ask a foreign government to investigate a political rival. >> to investigate the vice president of the united states or someone who is a u.s. official, i don't think we should be asking foreign governments to do that. i would say that's true of a political rival. >> improper for the president of the united states to demand a u.s. citizen -- >> it was improper and inappropriate. >> again, our holding up of security systems that would go to a country that is fighting aggression from russia for no good policy reason. no good substantive reason. no good national security reason is wrong. >> and we are going to check that type of conduct. we are the people's house, i yield back the balance of my time. >> gentleman yields back, mr. gohmert. >> i had some questions for the witness, mr. burke, but he has absconded. i'm going to use my five minutes, not to ask questions. it is interesting to hear mr. goldman refuse to answer questions about the investigation, yet he comes in here, the very reason that he wants to see the president for the first time any president's ever been removed from office, why he's been obstructing, he didn't answer our question. perhaps if we're going to apply his sense of justice to him, it would be time to have him removed from his position, but that's only if we apply his own standards, if it weren't for double standards, some of these folks won the have standards at all. we were told we would hear lawyers present evidence. lawyers are going to come in here. now, what normally happens, i've been in some kangaroo hearings in courts, not my own, but i have been mistreated in hearings before, but i have never seen anything like this, where we don't allow the fact witnesses to come in here, we have the lawyers come in and tell us what we're supposed to know about those witnesses and about their testimony and their impression and what the law is, this is outrage yous. in 41 years, he's never seen anything like what we have going on here to try to oust a sitting president. and it's also outrageous to hear people say, well, this man thought he was a king, because i said he could do anything they wanted when they know that statement was in the context of whether or not he could fire mueller. of course he could fire mueller, he could fire or not fire mueller, he could appoint a special prosecutor to invest in mueller and wiseman, i think he should have, but that's his prerogative and he could have done anything about that he wanted. to take that out of context, he thinks he's a king. let me tell you what a king is, a concerning is someone who says over 20 times, i can't do that congress has to change the law on immigration. and then he decides, you know what, i got a pen, i got a phone. i'll do whatever i want. and by golly he does. he makes new law with a pen and a phone. now, that is more like a monarchy, not somebody saying they can fire a special prosecutor if they want to. regarding treason, the constitution itself says you got to have two witnesses, and that's not hearsay witnesses, none of this stuff that wojt be admissible in any decent court. no, that's two direct evidence witnesses that can come in and positively identify themselves, not something they overheard or -- but actually be witnesses to treason, and yet this group comes in here, they toss treason out in a report like it's no big deal. and then we'll have the lawyers testify and then throw a president out of office. this is so absurd. we have witnesses come in and we're told he's going to be a witness, that's why he doesn't have to follow under the rules of de core um, and then i've never seen this. he gets to come up and grill his opposing adversary witness, i feel like to be fair, if we were going to make this thing fair, mr. caster would be able to come up and grill mr. burke. it's not about due process, this is about a kangaroo system, and let me tell you, those that think you've done something special here, you have set the bar so low, i'm afraid it's irrepresentable. we've had people already mention the next president, joe biden, he may be the next president. well, we've already got the forms, all we have to do is eliminate donald trump's name and put joe biden's name in there, because he's on video. he and his son. he basically has admitted to the crime that's being hoisted on the president improperly. i'm scared for my country. i've never seen anything like this. this is supposed to be the congress. i came up here from a court where we had order and we had rules and i've seen nothing of the kind in here today, and it's outrageous that we're trying to remove a president with a kangaroo court like this. >> if i could just clarify, treason is not in our report. >> the gentlemen yielded back -- >> yeah, and it is mentioned in the report we got. thank you very much. >> the gentleman yielded back. mr. johnson. >> thank you, mr. chairman, i'd like to get us back to the undisputed facts of the president's abuse of power. mr. goldman as a prosecutor in the southern district of new york, when you prosecuted drug counsel spirscy cases, was it standard practice for drug king pins to try to beat the case by distancing themselves from the conspiracy and blaming their accomplices for the crime? >> all the time, conspiracies have different layers and the top layers make the bottom layers do the work, so they're further removed from the actual conduct. >> i'd like to have some questions about the president's role in what ambassador bolton referred to as a drug deal. did the testimony and evidence compiled by the intelligence committee establish the fact that with respect to ukraine rudy giuliani was at all times working on behalf of president trump. >> mr. juligiuliani said that, president trump said that to a number of other individuals, and then those individuals, ambassador sondland ambassador volker also said that. >> rudy giuliani on behalf of his client president trump spoke with a new york times reporter about his planned trip to ukraine, and on that trip, he planned to meet with president zelensky, and urged him to pursue investigations relating to the bidens and to the debunked theory that ukraine and not russia interfered in the 2016 election, isn't that correct. >> mr. giuliani told the reporter his trip was not about official u.s. foreign policy, and that the information he sought would be very helpful to his client. meaning it would be helpful to president trump, is that correct? >> yes, and if it's not official foreign policy, it would be helpful to president trump's personal interest. >> that's correct and there is no doubt that investigations of the bidens and the 2016 election meddling were in fact not about u.s. policy, but were about benefiting trump's re-election, correct? >> yes, and even the ukrainians realize that. >> and on july 25th, president trump placed that fateful phone call to president zelensky and he asked president zelensky to investigate the bidens, correct? >> yes. >> and on that call, president trump told zelensky, i will have mr. giuliani to give you a call, correct? >> that's right. >> and on october 2nd and october 3rd, president trump made once again explicit that he and mr. giuliani were intent on making these investigations happen. correct? >> just so you know. we've been investigating on a personal basis through rudy and others, lawyers. corruption in the 2016 election. >> i would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation, into the bidens. it's a very simple answer. >> mr. goldman, the evidence shows the course of conduct by president trump and his agents, does it not? >> it does. and clearly it continued long after our investigation began. >> it shows a common plan, correct? >> that's right. yes. >> it shows a common goal. >> correct. >> and the goal was to get foreign help for the 2020 election, correct? >> that's what all the witnesses said. >> and mr. goldman, who was the king pin of that plan? >> president trump. >> thank you, mr. goldman. ambassador bolton called it a drug deal. as a king pin, president trump tried to force a foreign government to interfere in the upcoming presidential election. the evidence is undisputed and overwhelming that rudy giuliani acted as part of a conspiracy with president trump to obtaining ukrainian help for president trump in the 2020 election. this was not just a hurtful drug deal, this was an attempt to undermine the very fabric of our democracy. the framers feared most how foreign influence could turn a president into a despot, so they adopted impeachment as a back stop to protect our democracy. the facts demand that we use that remedy today. and with that i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back, mr. jordan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to go to the document that started it all, the whistle blower complaint. bullet point one on page one of the whistle-blower's complain the he says, over the past four months, more than half a dozen u.s. officials have informed me the various facts related to this effort. who are these individuals? >> we don't know. >> we had no chance to know for sure who these people were, because we never got to talk to the whistle blower? >> that's right. >> we needed to talk to the guy who started it all. who these more than half a dozen people were who formed the basis of his complain the and we never got to. adam schiff's staff got to, adam schiff knows who he is, we don't get to know the original people, the six people who formed the basis of this entire thing we've been going through now for three months, we did talk to 17 people, right? >> that's right. >> 17 depositions and you were in every single one. you were the lawyer doing the work for the republicans in every single one, right? >> that's right. >> there was one person they built that report around, one witness, who would that be? it's obviously one witness. >> ambassador sondland. >> i think you said earlier his name was mentioned -- what did you say? >> 611 times. >> more than colonel vindman who was on the call, more than ambassador taylor. they relied on sondland, not the whistle blower. not the half a dozen people who -- why did they pick sondland? >> that's the best they got. >> that's the best they got, the guy who had to follow an addendum to his testimony? the guy who said. he said, unless president zelensky announces an investigation into berisma and the bidens there would be no meeting with president trump, there would be no security assistance money going to ukraine. that's what he said. was there an announcement about this? >> no. >> did president zelensky get a call from president trump? >> yes. >> did president zelensky get a meeting from president trump? >> yes. >> did president zelensky get the money? >> yes. >> is that right? >> yes. >> the guy who said that wasn't going to happen is the guy they built their case around? >> yes. >> is that right, mr. sound land? >> right. >> they built their case around a lot of hearsay, didn't they? the best example of the hair say, surprisingly enough is ambassador sondland. they built their case around this ambassador and hearsay, the best example of both is ambassador sondland, we read this a couple weeks ago, we pointed this out a couple weeks ago. bullet point number two, in his clarification. ambassador taylor recalls. mr. morrison told ambassador taylor that i told mr. morrison that i conveyed this message to mr. yermak. and a meeting with president zelensky. that's his clarification. amazing, six people before having four conversations in one sentence. i told mr. morrison that i conveyed this message to mr. yermak in connection with vice president's visit to warsaw, that's the clarification. that's their star witness who they built their case around. so and so tells so and so what somebody said to someone else and there you have it. that's their case. they forget the four key facts. they forget the fact that we have the call transcript. two guys on the call, president trump and zelensky said there was no pressure, no linkage, no pushing. they didn't know aid was held at the time of the call. and the fact most important, they did nothing to get the aid released. they forget all that, those key facts and they build their case around the guy who had to clarify his testimony with that amazing sentence. mr. goldman, the democrats -- did the democrats publish phone records? >> did the democrats publish phone records of a member of the press? >> yes, he was also involved in this. did the democrats publish a phone record of members of the congress? >> yes. >> did that member of congress also happen to be your boss's political opponent. the democrats run this kind of investigation, ignoring the facts, not letting the whistle blower come in, and not litting us know if we talked to the more than half a dozen original sources for the whistle blower's complaint in the first place, the guy has to file an addendum with that clarification sentence, one thing they did do in their report is they published the phone records of the president's personal lawyer, the phone records of a member of the press and the phone records of the chairman of the inning tell against committees political opponent representative nunes. that's what these guys did, and that's their effort to impeach the president of the united states 11 months before an election. >> the gentleman's time is expired. >> unanimous consent. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to focus on the facts surrounding the president's abuse of power. >> gentlemen, gentlemen. gentlemen -- >> i ask unanimous consent that the report by the majority staff on the judiciary constitutional grounds that talks about trees ing and bribery be admitted for the record. >> you what? >> be made part of our record. >> majority report without objection. >> mr. deutsch. >> getting back to the facts surrounding the president's abuse of power surrounding the white house meeting as leverage for helping his political campaign. mr. goldman, president trump offered ukrainian president zelensky a meeting in the white house. but first he wanted investigations into the bidens on a conspiracy theory about meddling in the 2016 election. president trump worked to exchange official actions for personal benefit, and i want to talk about that. on may 23rd, 2019 a delegation of officials returned from zelensky's nomination and briefed the president. president trump directed government officials to work with his personal lawyer, isn't that correct? >> yes. >> and trump's handpicked ukraine operator testified that they faced a choice either work with giuliani or abandon the goal of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman? >> they decided to work with mr. giuliani. >> right. and six days later, on may 29th, president trump sent the new ukrainian president a letter that said, america stood with ukraine and invited president zelensky to visit the white house, isn't that correct? >> that's the second time he invited him to the white house. >> at this point the ukrainian president expected that meeting. >> correct. >> they learn they have to do something more for the president. >> sondland testified there was a prerequisite of investigations, isn't that right? >> yes. >> and nsc staffer, lieutenant colonel vindman testified that sondland told the ukrainians in a july 10th meeting that investigation of the bidens was a deliverable, necessary to get that meeting, isn't that right? >> yes, and if i could take a second to correct what mr. casto r said about that in connection to the white house. even ambassador volker in his public testimony was forced to admit he did hear that and said it was inappropriate. >> and on july 19th sondland told president zelensky directly that president trump wanted to hear a commitment to the investigations on the july 25th call, correct. >> that's right. >> that same day sondland updated senior trump administration officials that zelensky was, quote, prepared to receive potus' call and would offer assurances about the investigations, isn't that right? >> yes. >> and on that same day state department official volker had breakfast with rudy giuliani and he reported to sondland by text message, most important is for zelensky to say he will help investigation, right? >> yes. and address any specific personnel issues. >> after giuliani spoke with yermak gave a green light to the july 25th call. on the morning of the call he texted zelensky's yermak and it said quote, heard from white house, assuming president z convinced he will investigate, get to the bottom of what happened in 2016, we'll nail down a investigation and zelensky agrees, isn't that correct. >> yes. and that text message was relayed from president trump himself. >> and then after the july 25th call, members of the administration continued to follow up with ukrainian counterparts to prepare for the announcement of investigations. sondland texted volker about efforts to schedule a white house visit knowing that potus really wants the deliverable and that is one of messages during a flurry of follow-up of meetings and calls and texts. on july 26th and july 27th and august 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 12th, 13th, 15th, mr. goldman august 16th, 17th and august 19th, isn't that correct. >> yes. according to secretary pompeo as well. >> this is my point. these are government officials that work for us instead they are working to help the president advance his personal political interest. isn't that what you found mr. goldman. >> that is right. >> this isn't a close call. we have a president at war with russia desperate for a white house meeting. the president promised a white house meeting but then he blocked the oval office. he blocked it. and said i need a favor. not a favor to help america. a favor to help me get re-elected. our framers feared one day we would face a moment like this and they gave us impeachment as a safety valve not to punish the president but to defend our elections and our constitution and that is what we must do. i yield back. >> the gentleman yields back. mr. buck. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. castor, i want to direct your attention to page three of the telephone call dated july 25th between president trump and president zelensky. on page three president trump states i would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it. would you like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. later he said i would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and i would like you to get to the bottom of it. the majority report on page 13 says the u.s. intelligence community had unanimously determined that russia not ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help the candidacy of mr. trump. there is appears to be a conflict. president trump is asking ukraine to request something and the majority decide it is an illegitimate request because there was no interference by ukraine, is that how you read this? >> yes, sir. >> and the press conference from the majority on their report says as part of this scheme, president trump acting in his official capacity and using his position of public trust personally and directly requested that the president of ukraine, that the government of of ukraine publicly announce investigations into subsection two, a baseless theory promoted by russia alleging that ukraine rather than russia interfered in the 2016 u.s. election. is that true? >> yes. >> and mr. castor, have you seen this article from politico dated january 11th, 2017. >> yes, i have. >> sand ukrainian efforts to sabotage trump backfired. is that correct. >> yes. >> i want to read you the second paragraph. officials tried to help hillary clinton sand undermine trump by questioning his office and implick sating a top trump aide in corruption ant suggesting they were investigating the matter only to back away after the election and they helped clinton's allies research damaging information on trump and his advisers, a politico investigation found. isn't it true that president trump had a legitimate reason to request help from the ukraine about the 2016 election. and i'm not suggesting russia didn't interfere. of course they interfered. but the ukraine officials tried to influence the election? >> yes. >> let's move on to ambassador sondland. i only have ten fingers and ten toes, i can't count above 20 but do you know how many times ambassador sondland said that he did not know, he did not recall, had no recollection or had limited memory or failed to remember something in his october 17th testimony? do you know how many times? 325. does that surprise you? 325. >> a big number. >> and then he filed a clarifying statement and he clarifies a few things, i guess. but did you have any -- do you have any contact with ambassador sondland between the time of his deposition and the time of his clarifying statement? >> no. >> did the majority? >> i have no idea. >> you have no idea. so they may have had influence on his testimony? >> -- no idea. >> and that is evidence of bias. that would be evidence of credibility. that would be evidence that we should take into account before. but we'll never know, will we? because the majority counsel has a right to assert a priv age as to information that is relevant to this commit's decision. the majority council has a right to assert a privilege in any communications he has with the chairman adam schiff, doesn't he? as does minority council. that is a privilege reserved here in congress, isn't it. >> yeah. >> and the same thing with foia, freedom of information act does not apply to memos the majority counsel rights, isn't that right? >> correct. >> so we've demanded that of the executive branch but we have allowed sour selves not to be part of foia, correct? >> correct. >> so the majority has a privilege, the president also has a privilege. it is called executive privilege. he could meet with the secretary of state and that is a privileged conversation. he could meet with the secretary of defense, that is a privileged conversations. he could meet with the secretary energy and that is a privileged conversation. now when the majority subpoenas those witnesses and the president refused to deliver the relevant documents they are charging him with an article of impeachment for obstruction. in fact, their report says the president obstructed the impeachment inquiry by instructing witnesses to ignore subpoenas. why? >> the gentleman's time is expired. miss bass. >> mr. goldman, i want to pick up on the president using the powers of his office. in this case in a meeting at the white house to pressure a foreign country to investigate his political rival. now that you've had time to step back from the investigation, is there any doubt that the president did, in fact, use a white house visit to pressure president zelensky to announce investigations of his political rival to benefit his reelection campaign? >> i will answer that question in a minute but i would like just to comment to mr. buck that the majority staff and no one had any contact with ambassador sondland after his deposition. but the answer to your question is, yes, miss bass. >> my colleague mr. deutsche mostly focused on the period pry to the july 25th call and would you like to focus on the period after. following the call did president zelensky come to the white house for a meeting? >> no. he's never come to the white house and witnesses said there is a huge distinction between a white house meeting and a meeting on the sidelines of the u.n. general assembly where they did meet on september 25th. >> so has a white house meeting been scheduled? >> no. >> so did the president and his associates essentially continue to withhold the white house meeting and if so, why did they do that? >> well the evidence found that the white house meeting was conditioned on the announcement of the investigations. and so once in mid-august when the ukrainians, mr. yermak and president zelensky, decided that they were not going to issue

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