let s get right to it with peter beinart, a senior political writer with the daily beast and associate professor at the city university of new york and bret stephens, the pulitzer prize-winning foreign affairs columnist for the wall street journal. when you look at what s going on in egypt, you now have a military coup, it s very difficult to make the case it was a soft coup. i understand the niceties of the american government not calling it that, but you had the military take over a democratically elected government. you now have the military appointing 17 out of 19 generals as governors. how should we think about this? look, first of all, it s a problem with no good solutions. you have in egyptian politics a zero sum game. efforts by senators mccain and graham, by the administration itself to try to finesse a power-sharing agreement between the military and the brotherhood have clearly failed.
them. so always be even when we are going to deal with egypt. to tell the brother they need to disarm. tell the brotherhood they need to disarm and come back with a political process and help the egyptian army continue fighting al qaeda. we need to have a design and architecture for egypt. i want to ask about the administration and the image problem. you re touching on that briefly in a way. you know, do we have an image probable as a result of our initial reaction to egypt as a perceived backer of morsi and the brotherhood? and how can that image be repaired? both sides don t like us right now. absolutely, heather. you actually said it. we have a problem with all of egypt at this point in time. not just both sides but even the christian minority, which is supposed to be the closest to the united states is now very frustrated that we have not responded in a clear way when they attacked 61 churches were
cut off aid. the brotherhood in other words, every time they seem to win in the polls, somehow that election is nullified. there s no question that al qaeda will take ideological sucker and rhetorical sucker in what has just happened in egypt. we ll find a reason one way or the other. what was worrying is that when the brotherhood did have an opportunity to rule, morsi was moving with remarkable swiftness. as it turns out, foolish swiftness to establish an autocratic state. the line was the only way i can impose democracy is by taking authoritarian methods. so democratic islamism when it was in power wasn t so democratic. all right. we ll have the two of you on to disagree another time. lots more ahead. i have a great story about a reform movement in the united states that is being embraced by both left and right. i ll explain, but right up now, is america overregulated? if you think so, you will want to hear my next guest, who helped put many of those regulations in place. sta
brotherhood supporters that died while in police custody. and right now conflicting claims from both sides on exactly what happened. this as the government and the islamist opponents are defiant after days of deadly clashes. leyland vitard has more from the mideast bureau. greg, the egyptian army promised an ever on well ming response. the muslim brotherhood armed attacks on them and much of cairo. so far the combination of mass arrests and a powerful show of force is working as it appears a vast majority of egyptians is siding with the army. day three of the brotherhood s week of rage certainly didn t live up to its name. a few hundred brotherhood supporters meeting army tanks. missing from today s small crowd was the brotherhood gunman who brought carnage to the streets since wednesday. like those who used a mosque min to force them out.
york and bret stephens, the pulitzer prize-winning foreign affairs columnist for the wall street journal. when you look at what s going on in egypt, you now have a military coup, it s very difficult to make the case it was a soft coup. i understand the niceties of the american government not calling it that, but you had the military take over a democratically elected government. you now have the military appointing 17 out of 19 generals as governors. how should we think about this? look, first of all, it s a problem with no good solutions. you have in egyptian politics a zero sum game. efforts by senators mccain and graham, by the administration itself to try to finesse a power-sharing agreement between the military and the brotherhood have clearly failed. the brotherhood aims to topple the military. the military understands that it s in a kind of death match with the brotherhood and is going to exert itself forcefully