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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20220319 13:32:00

which is why it s doing everything it can to bring the russians and the ukrainians together. and the fact is that the consequences of this vicious war of aggression are likely to be serious for turkey and for all of us. if our aim was to genuinely knock the russian regime for six, would you fund gas at triple or quadruple the price? is that a price worth paying? the bbc s coverage of the war so far has come in for a lot of praise worldwide. one face of it has been clive myrie. you realise just what a huge moment this is geopolitically, strategically, economically. the civil war in syria started 11 years ago and russia s been deeply involved in it. are the russians transferring their tactics there to ukraine now? we are definitely seeing parallels, but not- only in the military tactics, - but also in the information war.

Transcripts for BBCNEWS Breakfast 20220320 06:35:00

turkey s in a tight spot, both diplomatically and economically. which is why it s doing everything it can to bring the russians and the ukrainians together. and the fact is that the consequences of this vicious war of aggression are likely to be serious for turkey and for all of us. if our aim was to genuinely knock the russian regime for six, would you fund gas or quadruple the price? is that a price worth paying? the bbc s coverage of the war so far has come in for a lot of praise worldwide one face of it has been clive myrie. you realise just what a huge moment this is geopolitically, strategically, economically. the civil war in syria started 11 years ago and russia s been deeply involved in it. are the russians transferring their tactics there to ukraine now?

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220326 05:26:00

and the focus sadly nonetheless has shifted to perhaps that chemical attack in this invasion. i want to talk to you about that. because the mind doesn t react the same way to chemicals and biological attacks as it does to nuclear when we talk about it. when we think. about it but they re awful. and they re widely used and they re also disallowing it. it also comes. up. when you think is the likelihood of chemical or biological weapons being used? sadly in the last year in particular with the civil war in syria. where russia s been very involved in the last decade. chemicals were used regularly in warfare. although that was prohibited by the chemical weapons convention. whether you are using chlorine and gas which is an industrial chemical. or whether you re using which is a nerve agent. all of this is prohibited by

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220326 05:09:00

way to describe it. we are getting enough to hold russia back, and to be successful. so if i had to quantify it, i would say it s in the 70% 70% ukrainian defiance, and 30% we could use a lot more hardware. and we need our skies close asap if we want to prevent civilian casualties that amount. that s the bare minimum. but you know, one thing we have to be clear about, this is not a russian ukrainian war. this is a global conflict that is going to spread to eastern europe. it s going to affect the number of different, you know, places in the world. i think what we need the most is for the west to overcome that inertia of denial. to understand that, you know, it doesn t end in ukraine. it ends with regime change. let me give you an example. apart from the military there s also economic and informational war. ukraine is actually being

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220326 01:38:00

of the russian invasion. it s also about trying to find a source of the u.s. intelligence. and why does use intelligence for so accurate. and it started with the fsb in this particular because this unit was also in charge of the obtaining official that the cia. so, we started there. because these guys were known to have at least some context for intelligence. now let s talk about the defense minister shoigu being out of the public eye. obviously this is not a name or person with who our western audiences are familiar. why, tell me about why this is such a big deal that he was active at the beginning of the invasion and suddenly seem to have disappeared for two weeks and now there s questions about whether this video that he was on is really current or from two weeks ago? well, first of all this war is very different from what we ve had before. with putin.

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