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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211217 01:22:00

earlier this week, hunter walker revealed those sources to be dustin stock son and jennifer lynn lawrence. the two were subpoenaed by the committee investigating january 6th and are now cooperating. in fact, we had them on this program yesterday where dustin basically confirmed the core facts reported in rolling stone . you had a phone conversation with paul gosar s chief of staff, right? we did talk to tom van flan, yeah. yeah. and he said paul gosar had been talking to the president specifically about pardons? correct, yes. okay. so in a conversation with you in which he s praising your work organizing the rallies, he also tells you that the congressman had a conversation with the president of the united states about pardons, correct? mm-hmm. yes, that that did happen. okay. tic-tac-toe. there we go. for his part, congressman gosar has called the claim false and defamatory, adding that the allegations came from, quote, people i have never met, which is clearly not

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211211 07:18:00

or ruby freeman coming forward to be like it s true, it s true, i stuffed the ballots. but all of those things would have had the effect they wanted. each of those. it would have provided cover, just enough cover to delay the certification of the election. it was not without strategic logic. they failed. and thanks to some work by the committee investigating january 6th, we now know how off the walls desperate trump s top allies were in light of that failure. thanks to this powerpoint dated january 5th from the trove of documents provided by mark meadows, and it is beyond insane. it includes the debunked claims of voter fraud. it argues the globalists and socialists are trying to the election on behalf of venezuela and china. it invokes hugo chavez, a leader who had been dead for years. it is impossible to overstate how bananas this all is. if a family member gave it to you, you would be very concerned. trump is so desperate, but all out of options. they have tried everything. every

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20211211 01:18:00

tried everything to install him as the authoritarian leader of this country. this episode highlights how increasingly desperate they all were in the days leading up to the insurrection. it s so weak and bizarre but also so menacingly desperate. i think that s why people have a hard time getting their head around what we have been through. it s not like they sent the tanks in. they probably couldn t have. they were grasping at straws. they were shaking every tree they could. a letter from doj to georgia saying we re investigating fraud, you should take that under advisement. ruby freeman coming forward to be it s true, it s true, i stuffed the ballots. but all of those things would have had the effect they wanted. each of those. it would have provided cover, just enough cover to delay the certification of the election. it was not within strategic logic. they failed. and thanks to some work by the

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