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it is something that democrats say they have to keep talking about and in fact, sara, i spoke to the former house speaker nancy pelosi who likes to kind of take the lead on the messaging, and when i asked her about democracy and january 6th which is obviously she is quite passionate about, she turned the answer to the economy. listen to what she said. >> what happened on january 6th was a manifestation of an assault on the personal freedoms that we have, because it was an assault of the capitol, the constitution of the united states, but it isn't all of his message. the message is about what we need to do as we go forward. and freedom gives us that opportunity. the kitchen table issues are the motivation and our mobilization to get the job done to win the election. >> i thought that answer was quite interesting and the question is, sara, whether we
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commissioner who had actually taken part in the insurrection though he hadn't been convicted of any insurrection crime, only of trespass, couldn't hold his office. now, an appeals court never ruled on that because the case became moot. he lost an election. but i would imagine that whenever donald trump tries to run in any particular jurisdiction, the secretary of state of that jurisdiction, whether on the basis of this article or little more obviously on the basis of this little pamphlet, the constitution of the united states, just read it and say wait a minute, you can't run. now, he will say, i was never convicted of insurrection. i was only convicted in the district of columbia under the indictment brought under other laws by jack smith. i'm assuming perhaps he will have been convicted before the election. but it is clear, you don't have to be convicted of insurrection in order to be disqualified.
trump campaign more time to challenge the election. >> this is as clear as day. they're coming up with a fraudulent scheme that they know is illegal, they know the supreme court will reject it, but what are they trying to do? they're trying to illegally delay a constitutional proceeding, the constitution of the united states says that the electorates get together and they count the votes, the date is january 6th, and here's a plan, a completely illegal scheme, where they're going to get fake electorates, have people lie, that they're certified to be electorates, and then have mike pence put these fake electorates before the united states congress. and in inso doing, steal, what, 7 million, 8 million, 10 -- i
instance. and in every instance where there would be -- whatsoever. at the end of the day, when iowa certified your results and send them to washington, d. c., when indiana certified or results, the constitution of the united states, article two, the job the vice president is to serve as the presiding officer at the joint session where you open and count the votes. don't take my word for it. go read the constitution. really, i have seen this with great respect, the constitution is very clear. my job was to oversee the decision of congress where objections could be heard. and i made sure that objections will be recognized. so we would hear whatever evidence or debate there was. but the constitution says you open and count the votes, no more, no less. the constitution for its no authority to the vice president or anyone else to reject votes or return votes to the states. never been done before, should never be done. i'm sorry, ma'am, but that's actually what the constitution says. no vice president in the united states is ever exerting the authority that you are convinced that i have. with all respect, president trump was wrong about my authority that day, and he is still wrong. [applause] i believe it with all my heart. >> i mean, it's not a huge bit of applause, not a rising crescendo. but there are claps. imagine having to do that every campaign stop? it's a remarkable clip. i mean for a whole bunch of reasons, but just to name a few. first of all what stands out, again, i never thought mike pence an impressive politician, but after following donald
the constitutional underpinnings of american government. >> what a pleasure. >> thank. you >> thank you poverty. so most of the history of humanity, of our species, people have lived under kings and queens and dictators and despots and belize and authoritarian system. democracy is very much the exception and the whole point of the constitution is to keep people in office from just doing whatever they want. it was the idea of lawless discretion in government officials that motivated the american revolutionaries to write a constitution that woodbine people in power. so we've got to make democracy
we are not unified by virtue of being one ethnicity or one ideology or one religion. we are unified by one constitution and one rule of law and in the values under our constitution. [applause] it is an aspiration, it's a challenge to us. the constitution shouldn't be some kind of fetish document. it should be the living commitment that we all have to make democracy work in the service of the common good. that is the constitution that comes out of the civil war and reconstruction. that is the constitution that we have been fighting for since then. and we've got to keep fighting for it. [crowd chanting]
you can't have democracy without participation, without people getting engaged in it. your were not unified by being one ethnicity or one religion [bleep] or one ideology. where unified by one constitution. it's not that the constitution was perfect when we got started. far from it. i mean we were not a democracy. we were a slave republic of white male property owners over the age of 21. but it has been through these successive movements for democratic enlargement that the constitution has become a better, and we have become a more perfect union. a great leader frederick douglass said if there's no struggle there's no progress. power concedes nothing without a demand. it never has, and it never will. thank you for organizing.
that it is a constitutional democracy. it's government of the people by the people for the people. and if somebody decides to disrupt the basic fabric of our public and to violate the law, we've got to take that seriously, even if -- this is a system of lies in the president is not above the law. he's bound by the law like everybody else. we are charging through agreed that we have three coequal branches. we are not coequal branch of government. where the preeminent branch of government. there's a reason why we are in article one. all legislative power is vested in the congress of the united states. so the constitution all sovereign power of the people to create the country, to raid the constitution, flawed into congress. and one is the core job of the president? to take care that the laws are faithfully executed. that's it. if the president doesn't take care that the laws are faithfully executed, get rid of him.
i felt it was completely consistent with everything we knew about donald trump. he has been betraying the office and betraying the constitution. he's been betraying national security from day one. >> thank you so much. great to see. you >> american elections belong to the american people. they don't belong to the president and they don't belong to a president working in league with foreign powers against us. that is what the framers were afraid of. i used to have a bunch of these winters are now only have one which. oh my god, are these are guys already trick or treating? and you guys already trick-or-treating? >> we're already trick-or-treating. >> come back because i'm getting my decorations. i've been a little busy, but you guys will promise to come back? >> absolutely, welcome back. >> we have to come back. >> all right, happy halloween, you guys. >> oh, man.