and shannon brewer are still with me. joining the conversation is annie runo and rachel sweet. i want to start with you madame vice president because you were headed to north carolina. yes. which recently overrode the veto of the governor who attempted to stop an abortion ban. why north carolina and what are you hoping to achieve there? i ll be there for the one-year mark of the dobbs decision, which is this saturday, in four days, to again discuss and be right there at a ground zero. why this is an issue that all americans should care about, independent of the choices they would personally make for themselves. this is fundamentally about freedom. the right to make decisions about your own life and your own body. this is a foundational principal
that s how we dealt with the issue in kansas. we had to talk to a lot of people that may not agree with us on everything. but when you get down to what should the government s role be in the decision, every state where this issue was at the forefront have said we need to keep the government out of our business and we need to protect the legal right no abortion. is it an issue? i wonder if if it s an issue. there s a presumption for latinas, people who are hispanic. it s a moral issue and they will not vote on it and it will not move and change. i think there are a lot of republicans who assume this is going to be helpful to them to ban abortions in states like texas. is that true? i don t think so. i think to rachel s point, we have seen that the majority of americans support abortion and the access to abortion. and so, that runs the gamut of people that includes immigrant women, it includes people in red
individual has experienced such a crime of violence, a violation to their body and surviving that, that these so-called leaders would say to that same person and the next decision you make about your body is not yours either. that s immoral. that s immoral. to take away her ability to decide what happens to her body next? and so, when i think about what is happening with these proponents of this approach, i think that if i think one attribute of true leadership is to have some sense of empathy and understanding. as opposed to judgment. when people have had those kinds
fights for civil rights must be fought and won with each generation. and the point if we are not vigilant we might see the rights go away so we must be vigilant every day. and this is so fundamentally about freedom. freedom. the freedom and the ability of an individual to make decisions about their own life and literally their own body. i think there s a piece of this also underlying it all is hey, trust women. trust them to know what is in their best interest. what are we saying that a bunch of people in the state capital, in washington d.c. are in a better position to make the decision for her than she is in terms of what is in her best interest? the best interest of her family? especially when we consider the
going there for just abortions i was going for everything because i didn t have health insurance. you ran a clinic, providing care for women. yeah. women they have nowhere we were providing birth control, they have nowhere to get birth control. the reason we were doing it in jackson because they didn t have access. so i don t know what those women are going to do. that s the thing that aggravates me the most, they will take away so much but won t find an answer to you know, to provide basic needs for these women. and that s what s really detrimental to the women, actually, in mississippi and everywhere. you mentioned college. my god daughter is a senior, just graduated high school on her way to college. she called me, auntie, when the decision came down, do you know what s happening? my friends, whatever gender, are