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very seriously. when they make a decision something is safe and effective, it is because it is actually safe and effective. mifepristone, they made that decision about that medication 20 years ago and it has been proven to be safe and effective for its prescribed use for those 20 years. these folks who are politicians are now encouraging lawyers to encourage a judge, not a medical doctor, to decide and put in place their judgment over the judgment of the fda. i ask people, if you understand what this means, understand you ought to go and look in your medicine cabinet and look at the drugs that the medications you may have there, could be anything from insulin to what you need for blood pressure, chemotherapy drugs, are arguably up to attack. this is so wide sweeping and wide ranging in terms of the implications. and it is also another example of how we are in the midst of a
majority of women who receive abortion care are mothers. and when they're making their decision about what is in their best interest, it takes into account usually so many people beyond herself in deciding what is best. >> yeah. >> but it truly was the decision when it came down, to amanda's point, was really about the creation of a health care crisis in america. >> indeed. >> and because it is not only about abortion care. it is about access to reproductive care. access to doctors. access to og-gyns. the data shows us in a state like texas there's ob-gyns in half the counties in the state. >> you're getting an amen from the doctor. >> that's true. >> we're going to take a quick break and when we come back we'll ask our doctor about the state of health care in texas
we've seen that in the work that has been done in the various states. we need a united states congress who understands and appreciates the exact point made at this table. it is the individual right, the privacy right, of people to make this decision. not having their government make this decision for them. >> yeah. >> and, let me tell you something, our president, joe biden, when that legislation gets passed to codify and put in place the protections of roe v. wade, joe biden will sign it. >> all right. >> let's make sure everybody that you know is registered to vote, like you were talking about. let's make sure that people understand the power of their voice on this, because we've seen how it has an impact. and so much of this discussion that you brought us together for is about really fully appreciating that this is not some conceptual issue. >> that's right. >> it's about real people every day who, for the most part, are
attributes has been about our collective fight for the expansion of rights. and this was such a stark restriction of rights that had been recognized. and i immediately knew when that decision came down what it would mean for real people almost immediately in our country, who, for the most part, many will suffer in silence and are alone and without resources of many types. and i was extremely sad for that reason as well, when that decision came down. angry. you know, and extremely sad about what it would mean for real people. >> you know, i know that this -- obviously there's the great inspiration of thoroughgood marshall and all the great jurists on the courts in the past. but i have seen an interview with your high school best
and shannon brewer are still with me. joining the conversation is annie runo and rachel sweet. i want to start with you madame vice president because you were headed to north carolina. >> yes. >> which recently overrode the veto of the governor who attempted to stop an abortion ban. why north carolina and what are you hoping to achieve there? >> i'll be there for the one-year mark of the dobbs decision, which is this saturday, in four days, to again discuss and be right there at a ground zero. why this is an issue that all americans should care about, independent of the choices they would personally make for themselves. this is fundamentally about freedom. the right to make decisions about your own life and your own body. this is a foundational principal
that's how we dealt with the issue in kansas. we had to talk to a lot of people that may not agree with us on everything. but when you get down to what should the government's role be in the decision, every state where this issue was at the forefront have said we need to keep the government out of our business and we need to protect the legal right no abortion. >> is it an issue? i wonder if if it's an issue. there's a presumption for latinas, people who are hispanic. it's a moral issue and they will not vote on it and it will not move and change. i think there are a lot of republicans who assume this is going to be helpful to them to ban abortions in states like texas. is that true? >> i don't think so. i think to rachel's point, we have seen that the majority of americans support abortion and the access to abortion. and so, that runs the gamut of people that includes immigrant women, it includes people in red
individual has experienced such a crime of violence, a violation to their body and surviving that, that these so-called leaders would say to that same person -- and the next decision you make about your body is not yours either. that's immoral. that's immoral. to take away her ability to decide what happens to her body next? and so, when i think about what is happening with these proponents of this approach, i think that if -- i think one attribute of true leadership is to have some sense of empathy and understanding. as opposed to judgment. when people have had those kinds
fights for civil rights must be fought and won with each generation. and the point if we are not vigilant we might see the rights go away so we must be vigilant every day. and this is so fundamentally about freedom. freedom. the freedom and the ability of an individual to make decisions about their own life and literally their own body. i think there's a piece of this also underlying it all is hey, trust women. trust them to know what is in their best interest. what are we saying that a bunch of people in the state capital, in washington d.c. are in a better position to make the decision for her than she is in terms of what is in her best interest? the best interest of her family? especially when we consider the
going there for just abortions i was going for everything because i didn't have health insurance. you ran a clinic, providing care for women. >> yeah. women they have nowhere -- we were providing birth control, they have nowhere to get birth control. the reason we were doing it in jackson because they didn't have access. so i don't know what those women are going to do. that's the thing that aggravates me the most, they will take away so much but won't find an answer to -- you know, to provide basic needs for these women. and that's what's really detrimental to the women, actually, in mississippi and everywhere. >> you mentioned college. my god daughter is a senior, just graduated high school on her way to college. she called me, auntie, when the decision came down, do you know what's happening? my friends, whatever gender, are
going to the field of obstret you cans and gynecology. from 2021 to 2022, in texas, after the passage of sb-8, there was a 19% decrease in ob-gyn applicants in our state. this is important as we are the second biggest state and asthma dam vice president pointed out we have 50% of our counties without ob-gyns. >> that's because people are afraid. >> people don't understand the law, my own friends don't understand what the texas law is. basically what the texas law says, you can make that decision if it's a life threatening situation, but if we don't agree with you, we're coming after you. >> here's the thing.