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this is so far looking at the re-elect, they seem to have a rule about who has the legal fees paid for by campaign donors. you have to be named donald trump. did good thing for the trump family is they have two of those guys. >> two people. >> junior and senior. ivanka needs anything, uh-huh. >> kushner, do you get any money? >> exactly. poor mike pence, next week, is going to be raising money for the trump re-election fund. he's raised money for his own pac and donated that money to the trump re-election fund paying for junior's legal fees and mike pence pays for his own. >> the funniest part is he then has to sell the plasma to help jared and the other non donald trump family members pay their legal fees. running out of blood. >> yeah. you know that the president's going to volunteer him. tap mike. he's healthy. >> the paler he looks, the more he's pumping into the trump family legal fees. thank you. have a great weekend. >> thank you. you too. >> all right. i 'm in for launs o'donnell. to rally tonight in alabama, donald trump talked about how he can't seem to close the deal with republican senators on health care repeal and why trump voters won't be getting the wall they have been promised. >> john mccain has gone full maverick this afternoon. >> announcing moments ago he is a no on the graham/cassidy bill. >> saying the process is garbage. >> hopefully now stop stupid. >> knockout blow may not be far off. >> i obviously have very serious reservations about the bill. i do want to wait until i get the cbo analysis. >> basically her saying i'm waiting until they say it's a terrible bill before i vote against it. >> i think it's dead as a cucumber. dead as what? door nail. >> they finally get a president who will sign the legislation and they don't have the guts to vote for it. okay? >> i think it's officially called the screw you billy kimmel act of 2017 sigh that what they're calling it? >> better to put the decisions in the hands of the state. if florida makes the decisions, it is legal to bring an alligator to a strip club. okay? >> the republican quest to repeal and replace obamacare is on the brink of failure once again tonight, hours after senator john mccain announced his opiniposition to his best friend's bill. donald trump attacked john mccain over his opposition to the republican plan. >> they gave me a list of ten people that were absolute noes. these are ten republican senators. now, john mccain's -- john mccain's list -- john mccain was straight night of scathing criticism of repeal effort of late night tv host jimmy kimmel. >> i see these comments from these angry people, they say, what qualifies you to talk about this stuff? you're a comedian. go back to being not funny. i feel like it's my duty to remind these people so concerned about my qualifications, the guy you voted for for president, his job qualification was this. >> meatloaf, you're fired. >> okay? he fired meatloaf on television. athen you put him in the white house. i'll say it again. it's more important than ever to call your senators and tell them not to gut american health care. >> excellent point. after mccain came out against the bill saying to continue to insist on regular order, kimmel tweeted this this afternoon. thank you, senator john mccain, for being a hero again and again and now again. an adviser on the affordable care act and ej deon and opinion writer for "the washington post" and political analyst and co-author of "one nation under trump." can't wait to see that. careen jean pierre. i'll go with you first since you're at the table. the irony of republicans saying jimmy kimmel should not speak about the bill because he is a tv personality and the tv penalty's in the white house. jimmy kimmel said why he is qualified. this is an adorable picture. and he tweeted, hey senator john mccain, thank you for fighting for kids like me. senator collins and senator lisa murkowski, that's from his son. isn't that more powerful? >> absolutely, joy. >> he is not a health care guy. >> he's a powerful spokesperson for what's going on right now with aca, repeal of aca. the thing to remember looking that the photo, his child has a pre-existing condition. >> right. >> right? and in this bill by the time his kid would have turned 1 years old, he would have reached a lifetime cap. >> right, right. >> jimmy kimmel understands this. he -- while he will be fine because he's wealthy and can afford the surgeries, he understands there are people that cannot afford that and taking the mantle and fight for people. >> yeah. absolutely. nera, you know, one does wonder. jimmy does set up senator lisa murkowski and senator collins, you are up, they were so against the other bill based on the potential and one wonders about the hesitation this time around. let's listen to donald trump tonight trying to woo lisa murkowski. >> your premiums are surging. your deductibles are through the roof. we have one state, the state of alaska, it's up more than 200%. and i'm having a hard time getting a certain vote but she is a good person and i think she will come through. i mean, if you look, alaska is up over 200%. so that means obamacare's no good. so we shouldn't have a hard time getting her vote and i think she is going to come through. i hope so. >> before i give your answer, that was jimmy kimmel's wife who tweeted that. he retweeted it. to be accurate. the case that trump is trying to make to murkowski is obamacare is so horrible. but the deal they're supposedly offering to woo her is to let alaska keep obamacare. does that make any sense to you? >> no. it shows that obamacare, the affordable care act, is actually what real people want in alaska. the governor is happy with the affordable care act. senator murkowski has said she basically wants to keep the elements of it. you know, it's crazy about this is that lisa murkowski i'm sure knows health care better than donald trump, cassidy or graham. she's actually weighing this bill and if she does hold to the word she said before which is that she wants a good deal for alaska an she wants a good deal for the country, she will vote no. the crazy part of the president's rants tonight is that the person who is driving up costs in alaska is donald trump. it's his actions that are causing it. she wants a stable bill. she wants a bipartisan bill. the republicans scuttled a bipartisan bill to get that. in order to jam through this partisan effort. and so, lisa murkowski knows that. if she holds true to anything she said in june, july, then she will vote no and i hope we see she votes no in the days to come but about health care this whole bill is like the crazy ending of medicaid. do you understand why she is his tatding to say no? >> i think she is hesitating to say no just to say i'm a republican. i'll give my leadership a little time. i'd be really surprised if susan collins votes for this bill. i think the signals she is sending is she'll vote no and as you say, two of the states that lose money under this formula are maine and alaska. which is why they're trying to cook up apparently this special deal for lisa murkowski and if you're going to let alaska keep obamacare because murkowski wants that, you could let every state keep obamacare just by scuttling the whole bill and that would be simpler. >> right! exactly. that's exactly it. and, you know, politico with a headline today saying trump pivotally the white house is harboring doubts with mixed signals. an official told politico, said this out loud, we really aren't sure what the impact will be of passing the bill. if they don't know what the bill does and not about policy, right? it can't be about policy and meanwhile "the new york times" is reporting the same thing i was hearing from republicans and texting yesterday that it is donors, gop donors are furious according to the report of corey gardner, the head of the nrsc told gop senators we haven't kept the promise. the donors are mad. it is about policy. >> that's exactly right. the rhetoric of eight years of repealing obamacare and this bill is like the worst of all of the bills put into one and it's not repealing and replacing. it is, hey, you are on your own. >> right. >> but yet this is what's the problem here. you remember we had donald trump say the house bill was mean but they just don't care about the impact of tens of millions of people. they just don't. it is all about like you said their donors and keeping that awful rhetoric they ran with. >> and with you, ej, this is donald trump tonight admitting that, saying that the reason to pass the bill because you said you would pass the bill. this is donald trump tonight. >> so they were getting the great votes like i think they voted -- what? 61 times. like 61 times! to repeal or replace. they finally get a president who will sign the legislation and they don't have the guts to vote for it. okay? they don't have the guts to vote for it. >> you know, ej, you have written about the republican party and evolution since really going back to the goldwater era. how do we get to a point of point of public policy is not policy at all? it is simply because did donors are demanding the tax cut, they want the money and you said you'd do it? how did we get here? >> well, i think it's been and we talk about this in our book, it's been an evolution in the republican party that the right wing took over the party, the donors played a big role in that. they drove out all sorts of liberals. think back to john chaffey and very serious about health care and introduced a fairly progressive bill. all those people are gone right now. but we're at an even worse stage here because it's as if nobody cares about the policy. they just want a win. it doesn't matter what the win looks like. doesn't matter what's in the bill. the republicans haven't been able to pass anything because they've given the right wing of their party veto over every issue because they're unwilling to deal with the democrats. and so, that's why they're stuck with no legislation and we are stuck confronting this health care horror show if this bill ever passed. >> you know, neera, one person that cares about the policy is rand paul believing that the federal government to withdraw entirely from assisting with health care and being honest about the fact of no one getting help at all. people like mccain upset about process. murkowski and others are concerned about their states and legitimate. you helped write this affordable care act. at the time, it is closer to the bob dole rebuttal to hillary care than it is -- are you as shocked as i am that the republican party is devolved to the point it's just about handing cash to donors and nothing about policy? >> i mean, when's insane about this proposal, this legislation, is it is the most radical rewriting of health care in decades. we might have one hearing on it on monday. and this bill is far to the right of what the house passed. it's far to the right of what the senate was considering just a month ago. month and a half ago. the idea here is will create chaos. medicaid directors across the country said it creates chaos throughout the system. don't take it from me. take it from insurers, hospitals, doctors. the idea that we're going to rip up people's health care and just send it to the states and the states will just create health care plans they never created before, a level of disruption and no -- so few senators -- i'd be surprised if 20 republican senators know what's in the bill as of now and supposed to vote on it next week. >> yeah. >> the idea -- this is what feeds cynicism in america. this is what makes people hate congress. >> yeah, yeah. >> people literally say out loud my donors are why i want to throw 30 million people's health care away and why people are angry. >> absolutely. you know who doesn't seem to understand, the jimmy kimmel? he mos more about this policy than the two people whose names are on the bill from what we tell right now. neera, thank you for joining us. coming up tonight, at his rally donald trump was asking questions about russians after the tweet tantrum about russia earlier today. up next, trump campaigns for incumbent senator strange by telling the voters, it might have been a mistake to endorse him at all. next tuesday, trump, trump backed interim senator strange will face former alabama chief justice moore who's being backed by trump supporters like steve bannon, sarah palin. latest polling finds moore up by 8 points. according to donald trump, luther strange isn't part of the dreaded establishment like moore's supporters fear. in fact, trump says strange doesn't even know the senate majority leader. >> people are saying he's friendly. whether you like mitch mcconnell or not doesn't matter but friendly with mitch. he doesn't know him. he was there for a few months. and they've put that mantle around his neck. i told mitch i'd like to say this. i'm telling you. he doesn't know mitch mcconnell at all. how would he see him in the senate? joining us now president of endeavor strategies and former spokesperson for breitbart. curt, so, luther strange doesn't them over, pull them away from ray moore based on their loyalty to donald trump? >> no. i don't think it is because at this point if you read breitbart as an only source of information, you believe that donald trump is being tricked into supporting, you know, the candidate he's got behind, that he's been co-opted by the west wing globalists to tell him to get behind luther strange and almost unwillingly and i think that's part of the posture tonight. i never saw an endorsement where the person giving the endorsement advocates for the other guy. >> yeah. >> with friends like that, my god, you know, donald trump did the job for moore right there tonight and basically gave an endorsement that was really supporting of the other guy and even said he'll campaign with the opponent should he win. >> yeah. >> and it just showed how concerned donald trump is about the headline that is will happen which will be, trump loses in alabama. bannon beats trump. he is so preoccupied with how he'll look and worried about looking weak and a quote/unquote loser trying to preempt that already saying he supports the guy. >> ej, remind me of the french election and supported lepen and she lost and he said i was always behind you to the guy that won. it is really won. >> don't seek an endorsement from donald trump. what's really interesting here is that this is the donald trump/steve bannon primary. the financial times put it. steve bannon would like to show trump that his people are forhim not because he's trump. he can't do anything. they won't follow him anywhere. they're for him because of far right nationalist christian views. and so, if moore wins, it will be seen certainly by breitbart and steve bannon, a victory for their strategy and if strange pulls this out actually then trump will be able to say they're with me. i can pull anybody over the line. so this has some real implications for the -- total workings of donald trump head, but also, the internal workings of the trump operation. it will empower the bannon-ites. they really want to show something to trump. >> yeah. i mean, if you asked the question of nbc news of a poll to republicans, more of a trump supporter, 58% told our poll that they're a trump supporter more than a republican party supporter and interesting if he's not to pull luther strange across the line, whose party is it anyway? donald trump said something else that -- he said a lot tonight and listen to another thing and went after without saying his name colin capper anymore. take a look. >> wouldn't you love to see a nfl owner when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a [ bleep ] off the field right now. he's fired. he's fired! when people like yourselves turn on television and see people taking the knee playing our great national anthem -- the only thing you could do better is if you see it, even if it's one player, leave the stadium. i guarantee things will stop. things will stop. just pick up and leave. >> jemele hill, the white house demanded she be fired by espn, not one nfl owner, not roger goodell, will say one word about what he said about kaep or other nfl players. not a one. why are you bringing up capper nick's name in alabama? never mind. i know the answer. your thoughts? >> good for her for still speaking up. >> yeah. >> amen to her. look. so much for the president for promoating the constitution in the first amendment. right? that's what he's supposed to be doing. at the end of the day, not only is donald trump a petulent child, he is a racist, a racist in the '70s, '80s, and '90s and when he first stepped into the political arena. he was one when he kicked off his presidential campaign and now unfortunately he's using this bull horn to really push racism further and further and the president of the united states. he is the person who's sitting in the oval office signing, you know, executive orders behind the resolute desk. >> but at the same time, curt, he knows the audience. he is a guy who's selling $40 hats to a certain audience. tweeting out $29 for a gold card with donald trump's face on it. he knows who his audience is and that's what they want to hear. right? >> it's a same audience infuriated by his working with democrats to try to find a solution to daca. also the same audience he catered to pardoned someone who believed for law enforcement to racially profile people. you know, when this happens, we have to look at the nfl, at the owners, the players to make a stand this weekend. you know, some of these owners gave $1 million to donald trump. dan snider here in washington, d.c. owning the washington redskins, jerry jones, bob kraft, new england, there's going to be a lot of eyeballs on the nfl this weekend to see how they react. will the league say, you know what? no. it's not right to terminate someone exercising a first amendment to speak. it is not right to try to take someone's employment away because they're exercising their belief and demonstrating they're discriminated against in as a class in this country and show that. how the players respond will also be interesting, people like russell wilson, leaders in this league, aaron rodgers, white, black or high schoospanic, you obligation to speak out against it. >> ej, doubling down on the marketing he does to the base he sells hats to, donald trump led a familiar chant at the rally tonight. let's take a listen to that. >> you got to speak to jeff sessions about that. >> of course, ej, again, lock her up about hillary clinton. somebody who's not in public office. is not running against him anymore. but there's still a sail yen sy of that guttural chant against a woman that dared to run against him as president. >> no, that's right. the main reason he ended up passing clinton in those key states is because of he played on anti-clinton feelings. and he is always done his politics by attacking someone. the biggest target is hillary clinton. but there was also little marco. there was also lying ted. donald trump doesn't know how to do politics without an enemy. when's inconvenient for him is you say is she is not running against him. she is not going to run against him again. he tried to take runs at former president obama. that didn't work well. but i think what donald trump, he is going to be at hillary clinton for the next three years because he doesn't know what to do without her. >> yeah. i mean, it is hard not to feel that, you know, when you combine that with go right back to those buttons, t-shirts, the vile things that people were wearing on the bodies and women about her. this residence of racial and misonly nisic imagery of the base says something not just about donald trump but a chunk of the american electorate that follows him and loves this stuff. passionate about it. >> it is a sweet spot if you will for him. it's been more than 300 days since the election. but he still uses hillary clinton as a foil and he will for a very, very long time. that's all that he knows. instead of focusing on north korea and instead of focusing on the territories and the states impacted by hurricane, instead of being presidential, he goes back to that sweet spot and in front of the rally. and he doesn't know anything else. let's not forget, what did he find out about russia this week? mueller is -- and the top investigators are zeroing in on donald trump. >> yeah. >> this is him feeling backed into a corner and reacting. so there's a lot here i think that's playing into this behavior that we continue to see. >> to the point, that is time when puerto rico is suffering, mexico is suffering after natural disasters. here's donald trump with another classic from his campaign, something that we all know now is not going to happen and that, of course, is the wall that he claimed mexico was going to pay for. take a listen. >> by the way, the wall is happening, folks. you know, it has to be a see through wall. renovating the existing wall and we are going to have as much wall as we need. you don't need it all the way. somebody said, well, what will you do? build the wall in the middle of the river? nobody can go in. are you going to build that wall on the mountain? you have a mountain which is a wall. but we are going to build the wall. >> it's quite a climb down, curt, but he still is saying it. why do donald trump's fans still believe that? >> you know, trump spent his entire campaign talking about how he's going to build a wall and that mexico was going to pay for it, not the american taxpayers, again, he walked away from that a little bit with the daca deal potentially with the democrats and the base went crazy and burning the hats and now back to try to throw them red meat. when's a see through wall? i don't know what he is talking about. >> yeah. >> glass. >> a window? i guess it's a window. >> build a wall? so he doesn't even know what he's talking about is the point. he is just -- verbal diarrhea. >> i think, you know -- >> wow. >> gave away three quarters of the wall in that speech. >> he did. >> all of the places we are not building a wl and renovating an existing wall. >> it is a reno. it's a reno. hgtv. curt, karinne, ej, thank you. >> thank you. what donald trump said about russia and the election tonight. and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, to ridiculous plot twists. 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>> breaking news. nearly nine months after taking over the federal government, the trump administration finally confirmed to the associated press that today it told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their voting systems last year. the ap reports that for many states the calls friday from the department of homeland security were the first official confirmation of whether their states were on the list. the government did not say who was behind the hacking attempts but officials in three states said friday the attempts could be linked to russia. joining me now, natasha ber tlt and george butler. tasha, first your reaction to the idea that it took this long for the trump administration to inform 21 states that the election systems might have been hacked. >> this is something that the vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee mark warner has been on over months and encouraging the government to take a stronger stance on this, you know, this news that the russians did try to infiltrate these voter registration systems. it's an extremely big deal and even if they didn't necessarily change vote tallies and no evidence they did that, the fact they were able to infiltrate the systems and that they were scanning them in the first place should have been something that the government was, you know, informing these states of long before. >> the reporting that you were doing was specifically about probably the most vulnerable me believe at the moment and seems to change every week within the trump camp and that's paul manafort. talk a little bit about it. in your reporting, manafort allegedly in your view, reporting, disappeared with the money and not vice versa. can you explain that? >> something interesting about an e-mail manafort sent to his protege last year regarding, you know, this private briefing for the millionaire is manafort spokesman came out saying manafort was just trying to get money owed from past clients in ukraine and interesting is that there's an allegation that manafort owes him money. deripaska said that manafort stole from him as part of an investment that went south and filed these claims in 2014 and they had a falling out and they haven't spoken since then. but the fact that now manafort reaching out and he was asking if deripaska wants the briefings, but does this have to do with debt cancelation. >> yeah. bob, if you're mueller and looking at paul manafort in debt to russian oligarchs and seems to have contact with them, walk us through what you end up doing. are you more interested in prosecuting paul manafort or flipping paul manafort? >> you know, we think of these as pure prosecutions so you start on the bottom and you work your way to the top. but when we look at who the bottom is, it's high level guys like paul manafort who was the campaign chairman and michael flynn who was the national security adviser. and special counsel mueller is going in on those guys. he's treating them like drug kingpins or organized crime dudes with the no knock warrant, with the search of the wife at the crack of dawn. and so, again, if this is the bottom it sounds like somebody higher up is at the top. and so, that's president trump. and his even higher level officials. >> is it too much of a paul to think that investigators would then start put together dots sort of separated as paul manafort's ties to russia and the fact that we now know that probably the russians, most likely the russians, breached 21 election systems? do they wind up getting put together inside mueller's investigation or more a matter for the national security investigation in your opinion? >> no. they're part of the investigation and this is why, joy, we have conclusive evidence that the russians tried to hijack our election. and president trump is not mad at the russians. he's mad at the media for reporting that news. and so, the question that special counsel mueller asked is president trump and the men work for him including paul manafort, do they seem like the type if the russians offer help at him beating hillary, do they seem like the type of people to turn it down? no. they're very open to all kinds of overchurs from the russians. why turn down help about the campaign? >> we are also seeing, natasha, an attempt by the administration to undermine the mueller investigation and leaks of capitol hill and pointing to the trump and manafort side in service of two tactical goals, undermining the goals and credibility of mueller's work and shifting blame to president barack obama. this is essentially a credibility contest between manafort, the white house and mueller. >> and look. this is not the first thyme that we have seen the white house try to undermine mueller. if the "vanity fair" report is true. we don't know who leaked the details and not surprising if the president and the white house were leaking these details to try to shift the blame on to the obama administration for a wiretapping. that by the way would require a warrant. there's a very lengthy process that the obama administration, the justice department under the obama administration, would have had to go through to obtain this f isa warrant and note the if he could time that an fisa warrant approved on paul manafort. >> you need probable cause i'm assuming for that warrant. >> probable cause which means that there's a fair probability that evidence of a crime is in paul manafort's apartment for one search and the eavesdropping that he is going around having conversations about illegal matters. >> all right. the plot thickens. natasha, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. and coming up, the man who spent his congressional career decrying waste, fraud and abuse in government -- directv has been rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable for 17 years running. but some people still like cable. just like some people like banging their head on a low ceiling. drinking spoiled milk. camping in poison ivy. getting a papercut. and having their arm trapped in a vending machine. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable switch to directv. call 1-800-directv. but he hasoke up wwork to do.in. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. whoamike and jen doyle?than i thought. yeah. time for medicare, huh. i have no idea how we're going to get through this. follow me. choosing a plan can be super-complicated. but it doesn't have to be. unitedhealthcare can guide you through the confusion, with helpful people, tools and plans. including the only plans with the aarp name. well that wasn't so bad at all. that's how we like it. aarp medicare plans, from unitedhealthcare. the uncertainties of hep c. wondering, what if? 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>> well, obviously will to that price was living the good life and flying a claert plane from d.c. to philadelphia. he could have taken amtrak. this is incredible on so many levels. some some ways it is the oldest story in washington. the come to washington, drain the swamp and find that you lying living in the swamp. the water is nice. come on in. this is a classic example. >> and the san diego tribune wrote in june, it was titled the nation's top health official vows, attack wasteful spending. he said that he's committed to ringing out wasteful spending regardless of what happens by donald trump and the gop-led congress to reshame obamacare. perennials talk about wringing the waste out of medicaid and medicare. is it something about the intoxication of washington, being around wealthy donors and wealthy lobbyists that is so enticing, or is it straight up hypocrisy and they're lying when they say they want to get rid of waste. >> those two things are not mutually exclusive. they get on washington and decide they like it there. even with the tea party, the most streel folks like tom price who have been waging the greatest war on what he per seize as waste, fraud and abuse. this is why people are very cynical about washington. people say donald trump is an outsider. anybody who has followed his career could say, no, he's the guy who has been deeply compromised by the political word for did he go aids. he's been cutting the disease, signing the checks. and the experienced people expected despite this long history, he would somehow clean out this swamp. you see it is not only tom price. it is mnuchin. they're all enjoying the benefits of government service of the. >> at what point does this wander over from hypocritical to a violation that could get a person in trouble? >> so it's not a crime to do something like this. it is against the ruse of the employee handbook. it is against the regulations of the federal government. the standard is lucy goosy. you're not supposed to spend more than necessary. even by standard, what secretary price does, he exceeds. that so the office of inspector general is investigating. they have the power to sanction and to tell them to stop. but i'm looking at this. not so much from former prosecutor but from a former government employee. if i do something like that, i would have gotten fired fast, quick is that in a hurry. it will be interesting to see if there's a double standard because this man happens to be the secretary. he still literally lost and wasted hundreds of thousands of government money. what i remember is, this trip he faruq d.c. to philly on a private plane for $25,000. that's a three-hour train ride. an hour and a half train ride. a three-hour car ride. so give me a break. >> the other thing that happened, we were talking about donald trump's speech in alabama. he talked about north korea. >> we can't have madmen out there shooting rockets all over the place. by the way, rocketman should have been handled a long time ago. maybe something gets worked out and maybe it doesn't. personally i'm not sure it will. i can tell you one thing, you are protected. you are protected. nobody will mess with our people. nobody is going to play games. nobody is going to put our people in that kind of danger. >> i don't think i'll ever get used to the president of the united states using cutesy nicknames for dictators. >> it has never happened before. john f. kennedy didn't call him rocket man. it has no place between nuclear arms states. this is very dangerous. some of trump's policies are fairly sensible including the sanctions on north korea. that's something we ought to be doing. he is distracting attention. and donald trump is making they will look sympathetic or at least putting us on a par with north korea. that's not where the president of the united states ought to be. >> hear, hear. tonight's last word is next. hey grandpa. hey, kid. really good to see you. you too. you tell grandma you were going fishing again? 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what's the main reason why you want to be elected to the party executive you have. this. i think it's extremely important to bring young people and their experience and viewpoints into the party to say experience from their studies and training and starting professional life. you don't find that often within the s.p.d. but it's important especially for a major party to include these viewpoints so i very much hope to be elected and given this trust. your you've just experienced first hand the way the s.p.d. handles its younger members in your place on the ballot in bavaria for the national elections would have been assured they gave you the brush off does that still hurt . but yes that was a bitter experience for me and one in the end one cast the s.p.d.m. the good life that. this is the party is on average very. very male. you can tell that by the parliamentary group where very few members are under thirty or even thirty five. and i think in the long run that'll be a problem. where it's about including the young people's views in getting in touch and you'll find many of the young people you talk to you feel that politics have nothing whatsoever to do with them. but if they see someone who is younger talking about their experiences that would have a very different impact. on people. i think that'd be a way ahead for the s.p.d. . could the reason it didn't work out with a ballot in bavaria b. that you obviously like to attack the political approach you want to publicly gave the former party chairman. a grade of d. minus i'm sure that didn't help relations between the youth organization and be asked. of course the party chairman's. when you take your frustrations out on. we were in the grand coalition we had just voted for the data retention act and tightening the right to asylum and we had to swallow not to it's a pill as from the christian democrats and especially from their variances to party . and we in the youth organization were not happening rather than going behind everyone's backs expected to say something straight out that's how i've always done it. referring to his disagreement with the ex parliamentary group chairman thomas of a man called you consistently lacking in solidarity when it gets worse almost going below the belt the spokesman for the party's conservative faction tweeted and i quote. the part only causes trouble before you are your worst enemy is your party come right. apply for. car i'd have to say if that's what you heard us cause labels may i see it more as a no no because we have absolutely nothing in common politically. i stand for completely different convictions but in recent months i've got a very different impression. when young social democrats running credibly strong election campaign we were the backbone of the federal level campaign we gained thousands of new members and we've accomplished a lot politically within the s.p.d. which is important to young people. and that made them realize what a youth organization should actually mean to them. martin shorts for instance supported my bid for the executive. at the national youth organization convention in a sample can. also emphasize this point. may not be a red carpet but you can see they would all welcome it if it works out with my bed . that. the youth organization was back on they hope to form a bulwark against a grand coalition but many in the party don't like the idea they're marching toward the grand coalition is that also how you sad. right now we're in a tricky situation now that angle america has failed to form the three way coalition and the free democrats christiane lindsey quit to the talks the situation is pretty difficult. and of course the s.p.d. is available for discussions with the various actors in the constitutional institutions as the german president suggested that when they you know thought in isolation take a very clear position and in my personal opinion a new edition of the grand coalition isn't the right way to go. in that last edition which almost all your election promises women's retirement at sixty three and so on a great project. yes but all the points we had in common that i'm used. i just don't see any more projects in common another problem i see is that the grand coalition has actually been voted out we lost fourteen percent of our vote and that's really not a new mandate that's. yourself i mean can you explain why that happened and the s.p.d. ended up with twenty point five percent even though very had accomplished so much so. i think the grand coalition is partly responsible because the two major parties never debated policy direction. no real differences were apparent. the german people were never clear where the s.p.d. wanted to go and whether christian democrats wanted to go. really seen as two parties that do everything together. that's been especially noticeable the past few weeks. the free democrats and the greens toward the country saying every vote for the s.p.d. is a vote for the grand coalition. the same five people are now saying the s.p.d. has to agree to a grand coalition but i see that as a problem. but if the grand coalition is the problem what so solution a minority government would mean no s.p.d. ministers are not to mention female ministers. would get. i think you have to get a little creative. as i said to the grand coalition is a problem because we have no points left in common because there's no debate over policy direction also because the far right e.f.t. would leave the opposition in parliament and. i think the s.p.d. has a responsibility not to allow that. and has a responsibility to be more creative i could imagine a minority government that would mean a great improvement at least for parliament then we'd know what the individual party stand for we could debate the right solution. it would do our democracy good . but you also have a responsibility the s.p.d. is still led by the people who turned in these bad results from this campaign what has to change who has to go. it's going to have to go is the wrong question it's what has to change especially what do we have to change about our platform to. stay you know yes sure. they'll be some changes of the national party conventions in general the party executive will become younger more feminine. the executive committee will too because i support that but i think it's far too short sighted to reduce everything to a question of personnel. the real problem is that we have to revise the s.p.d. platform because we have to have a sharper profile but we also have to deal with its use coming up in the future. what does digitization mean to our workaday world how will life be in the society of migrants global justice people expect answers to these questions and they expect some orientation which the s.p.d. isn't giving them right now but it's outside best yourself said it has to become younger and more feminine so it is a question of personnel are you. the national convention won't go the same way as in bavaria and you're comes up empty handed again. at the moment i'm very confident i think the party has learned that it just makes sense to include young people especially strong women so i'm very confident. and anyway it's not just about me one or the other party member might see it differently but i really believe we've got to make the party runs younger and more feminine starting from the local chapters up through the state executive committees right up to the party leadership . we need young people everywhere with new ideas and fresh. now we've come to our unfinished sentences that i'd like to ask you to complete. for not caving in even though she failed so spectacularly at these past few days. and i appreciate gabrielle for. being a man of conviction and fighting passionately for his politics. in the last twenty years i see myself. able to make the world a little better. than many. you're a mess this week's highlights. how the staff of the year creates exclusive 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the most tangible data suggesting that the united states is losing its good reputation comes from the economist adam poser. he argues that countries are bypassing the united states and constructing a post-american world economy. you can see this in the flurry of trade agreements that don't include the u.s., from the transpacific partnership, which was signed minus america to the trade deal the european union just signed with japan and many others that are in the works. the most dramatic indication of the world side stepping the u.s., he says, is the decline in foreign investment in america. it has fallen off a cliff, he told me. net foreign investment into the u.s. has dropped by half since 2016. perhaps some of the decline is part of a longer term trend. other countries are growing faster than the u.s. but for decades, that reality has been countered by another reality. that among the world's rich nations, america was unique in having strong growth prospects coupled with stable, predictable, pro-market policies. trump's attacks on trade, allies, his willingness to punish and reward individual companies and general unreliability all add up to a picture of policymaking that looks like that of an erratic developing company run by a strong man. the difference is america's strong man has the power to disrupt the entire global economy. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington post column this week. and now, let's get started. >> is the war between the united states and iran actually possible? the leaders of the two enemy nations have been threatening each other since last weekend. it all began last sunday when iran's president, hassan rouhani said the war between two nations would be the mother of all wars. president trump, of course, responded late that night with a tweet that said, in all caps, never, ever threaten the united states again, or you will suffer consequences the like of which few throughout history have ever suffered before. iran's foreign minister responded similarly, in all caps, color us unimpressed. and the leader of iran's powerful force threatened thursday if trump began a war, it would be iran that ended it. tough talk. joining me now, robin wright, contributing writer at the new yorker and fellow at the woodrow wilson center, and trita parsi, and the author of "losing an enemy," reuel marc gerecht, now senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies. robin, what do you make of the tweets and is this a new policy? >> well, clearly, there's escalating tension between washington and tehran. what the administration believes the revolutionary government in iran is vulnerable and escalating the pressure economically, in terms of intelligence information campaign. it's gaming that the regime will be under such pressure it will have to go back to the negotiating table to talk, not just about the nuclear weapons program but also the wider array of issues we have with tehran, including human rights practices, its missile test, its meddling in the region, and the danger is that the iranians do not respond in a way that washington wants. the question becomes what else? is this a repeat of the momentum that we felt in the run-up to the war with iraq? the danger is that this is not north korea, this is not iraq. iran is very sophisticated and has very important oil assets and the other five members of the team negotiated with iran for this historic nuclear deal have said they're going to stick to it. that includes britain, germany, china, france and russia. >> mike pompeo also made a speech and that seemed to outline and reemphasize what robin is saying. this is a new policy toward iran. >> we do have new policy, walking away from the jc -- the president and secretary pompeo have said they want to have new negotiations with the islamic republic. certainly much of what they're doing makes sense if you are adopting some type of regime change approach. >> which you applaud? >> i do. i think it's the correct way to go, particularly at this time. i do believe that the islamic republic is internally weak and makes sense to deprive them of our currency. >> trita, i'm guessing you disagree. >> i disagree with the idea that the united states is in a position and has the capacity to do a regime change in iran that would lead to a better government in iran, the iranian people certainly want to see democracy and are deeply frustrated with the current state of the country. but where is the last time, give me an example, of the united states doing a regime change in the middle east, that led to a proper democracy? i fear that the attempt at regime change -- i do agree with reuel, when you see everything that's happening, it's not compatible with the strategy for diplomacy, but some form of attempt at regime change. it might be a worse scenario, regime collapse. they might not try to replates government, just collapse the current government and allow the most striking about iraq, the democratic system in iraq, as flawed as it is, hasn't disappeared yet. the mistake there was that we pulled out. we should have stayed. >> for how long? >> we have to be patient. and, obviously, the americans have, i think, a short attention span for these things, and certainly in the middle east, which is very demanding. >> do we really? we're still on the banks of iran, still in osaka and south korea, places where it makes sense because you're deterring an outside threat or anchoring the country. these are cases where you're trying to engage in a quasi colonial occupation, which is very difficult. look into afghanistan. is it better today than it was? >> i would argue that the intrusion of the united states into the iraqi government was less than probably what you had in germany after world war ii. you know, i would say that the more the united states is there, the better. >> robin, let me ask you, the point at which there seems to be some agreement is that what we're headed for is a kind of regime change like strategy. press iran, probably economically, but not -- the united states is not going to go into syria, yemen, lebanon to push back against iran. what you end up with is trita right, regime collapse and a very messy kind of situation? >> one of the things that everyone in washington is concerned about is what happens even if you get to the point that the regime is confronted, is vulnerable, does begin to either collapse or deteriorate? and there is no identifiable opposition group that has emerged that is popular at home. and so one of the questions is, who would replace the regime? this is a country that has 80 million people. it borders not just the middle east but south asia, central asia. it is one of the most geostrategic properties in the world and has a good deal to say what happens on the strait of hormuz, through which a huge amount of the world's exports flow. so those of us who live a long way away, it is important. we're still militarily stressed whether in afghanistan, iraq, south korea, germany, that we don't have the resources to rebuild a country like iraq, much less a place like syria, which will have to be reconstructed at some point. and the idea of reconstructing another war zone is very daunting. so, whether it's just the collapse of the regime because of its inefficiencies, the opposition within or some kind of military campaign, plan b, what happens next, is a very unclear and in some ways the most frightening aspect of this issue. >> when we come back, we'll ask, what is actually happening inside iran? 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the united states pressure, does it help the iranian regime in a way that, for example, it helped the castro regime in cuba, because they can say they were battling the americans and american pressure, or is it, at the end of the day, pressure is pressure and it weakens the regime? >> probably both. the biggest pressure on the iranian regime comes from within. the fact that the majority of the voters today were born after the revolution and this is one of the most connected societies. it has a very sophisticated polity. they are aware of what happens in the rest of the world. they don't want to be a pariah and don't want to see their currency halved as it has in the past year. they want to buy their western goods and don't want to be stuck with inferior chinese stuff. i do think we're reaching a turning point. in august and again in november, u.s. sanctions go in effect. first, not just on iranian goods but any company that does business from any country with iran. and so this will undermine even those countries that have stuck to the nuclear deal, the companies in those countries are going to feel pressure not to deal with iran, because then they can't sell their goods to the united states. you see big global companies, france's totale, germany's siemen's. the pressure will mount. will there be this confluence of factors that really undermine the regime? just a year ago you saw almost 77% of the population in iran turn out for a presidential election, much higher than it was in the u.s. presidential election a year before that. there are still people willing to participate in a system a year ago. whether the system can collapse quickly, i think, is a big question. >> i think one thing we could be sure is the pressure is mounting and this is going to be a story to watch. thank you. thank you very much. next on gps, trump's tariff war and why it won't work. back in a moment. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it no. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. who's already won three cars, two motorcycles, a boat, and an r.v. i would not want to pay that insurance bill. 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[ ding ] -not today, ron. world segment. a lot has changed in american politics over the last 30 years, but there's one thing you can always count on, republicans hating taxes. >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> tax increases destroy jobs. >> we've made history by massively reducing job-killing taxes. >> it turns out there's a certain job-killing tax trump actually loves, tariffs. tariffs are pretty much the same as taxes, which is why free-market economists from alan smith onward have hated them. when trump puts a tariff on a foreign good, what he is doing is taxing that good, making it more expensive for americans. take, for example, trump's tariffs on imported steel. it's true this would help americans who make steel, because their competitors' products coming in from abroad would be more expensive. but there are only about 150,000 american workers who make steel. that is dwarfed by the 6.5 million americans who work in industries that buy and depend on cheap steel, writes douglas irwin, dartmouth economist of foreign affairs. including everything from small tool manufacturers to large defense firms. goldman sachs says general motors and ford could each lose $1 billion this year because of the steel tariffs. the trump administration is looking into tariffs on another $200 billion worth of chinese goods and has threatened automobile tariffs on allies. costing nearly 200,000 jobs, according to the peterson institute. listen to larry summers. >> this is the least well-conceived economic policy that the united states has pursued since the period before the great depression. >> so why even start these tariff wars? >> don't blame the administration. don't blame japan. don't blame europe. blame china. >> well, china is a trade cheat that breaks the rules and bends others, as i have often said. these are problems. but trump's tariffs are not the answers. in mid june, the united states announced tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese imports. the overwhelming majority of them were on what's known as intermediate goods. in other words, parts for things like computers or cars or on machines used to build them. those are the kind of tariffs that will raise costs for manufacturers in the u.s. and the peterson institute found that those same tariffs would primarily target multinational companies operating in china, many of which are american, not chinese companies. the chinese europeans and canadians have all retaliated and their tariffs are much smarter. they target final products that will affect americans directly. kentucky bourbon, harley davidson motorcycles, all seen as potent national symbols and many are located in the republican heartland. targeting them is designed to mobilize powerful republican legislators who have to answer to those voters. the best way to get china to reform its trade practices is for the united states, europe and other allies to work together. instead, the united states is forcing its allies into china's arms and many republicans are standing on the sidelines, as donald trump overturns yet one more of the defining ideologies of conservative. next on "gps," pakistan elects a new leader. what can we expect from the former cricketer, imran khan? i will talk to the experts when we come back. paying too much for insurance you don't even understand? well, esurance makes it simple and affordable. in fact, drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of $412. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. plaguing pakistan for decades and showing no signs of abating. the former cricket player turned politician has been strongly anti-american and such sentiments in pakistan were exacerbated when trump withheld hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military aid earlier this year. what should we expect? joining me now, pakistan's former ambassador to the united states, husain haqqani, who joins us from rome, and laurel miller was the united states' special acting representative to afghanistan and pakistan. laurel, let me start with you. why did imran khan, a politician who, i don't know, five, seven years ago, as i recall, his party won one seat in parliament. why did he win? >> several factors contributed to his apparent election victory. the first one is that there is little doubt that the pakistani military tilted the playing field in his favor through pressure on the courts, through pressure on the media, indeed harassment of pakistani media and through intimidation of election candidates. it's also the case that imran khan has genuine popularity in pakistan. his party did quite well all across the nation. and he has worked very hard over the last two decades to move from the fringe of pakistani politics to the center of power in pakistan. and a third factor is, it's not difficult to see why many in the pakistani electorate would want to vote for change. >> what does this mean for u.s./pakistani relations? he has been strident anti-american. the trump administration seemed to turn up the pressure on pakistan. though it seemed a momentary spasm rather than a sustained policy. what's going to happen? >> i think that imran khan will try to reach out to the u.s., which he did in his first statement as well because of pakistan's massive problems. there's no money. pakistan needs every dollar and assistance that it can get. that said, i think it's also very clear that the reason why the pakistani military establishment supported khan was because they want status quo on foreign policy and international relations while wanting to change the status quo at home. on one hand, they do want a civilian government that is less corrupt but they want a civilian government that is more obedient to the military. i see no basis on which the united states and pakistan will be able to bridge the divide that has emerged between them. i do realize that the two countries will have to interact with each other but i don't think that interaction is going to lead us to anything different from what we have had in the past. >> laurel, what do you think? the united states and pakistan have had the same dance now since 9/11. the united states has said we're going to push you hard, because you are at the source of a lot of the terrorism coming out. you support these jihadis. you have supported them for decades. at the same time, the united states needs pakistan to fight some of these forces and so it never quite cuts pakistan off. this has been the dance ever since colin powell went to musharraf right after 9/11. >> you're right. i'm not expecting to see any change in the near to medium term in u.s./pakistan relations, any breaking out of that dynamic you just described. the united states is pursuing a policy and a strategy in afghanistan that makes the united states dependent on some level of cooperation with pakistan. there's no solution to the problems in afghanistan, no enduring stability in afghanistan without some degree of cooperation with pakistan. >> husain, what does this mean for pakistan? so many of the countries are moving, in some way, look at malaysia, moving away from authoritarianism. in some cases the military is even more dominant. where does this go? >> it has a very fixed notion of what pakistan's interest is. pakistan must see india as the eternal enemy. pakistan must have a dominant role in afghanistan and pakistan must be the center of the universe as far as that region is concerned. that is an untenable situation when your literacy is low and quality of education does not create the human capital. i think if, as laurel says, that the dependence on pakistan if the united states decides to pack up and leave pakistan, it leaves pakistan with no anchor and also its own domestic growth and pakistani military is betting heavily on china, expecting them to bail pakistan out. pakistanis alone can bail pakistan out and pakistanis need to think beyond the military as the country's savior, but the military does not allow that to happen. >> thank you both. husain, as you've often written, pakistan has invested far more in its military over the last 70 years in its independence than it has on education and human development. i suppose that statistic says it all. up next, if the rest of the show has gotten you down, the next segment will make you happy. i guarantee it. stay tuned. throat tightness; face, lip or tongue swelling, rash, itching or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe jaw bone problems may happen or new or unusual pain in your hip, groin, or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia®, as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections, which could need hospitalization; skin problems; and severe bone, joint, or muscle pain. if your bones aren't getting stronger isn't it time for a new direction? 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>> i don't know. i think there are a number of different things at work. my sense is that colleges are often prioritizing the kinds of things that science suggests aren't very good for well-being. overfocused on grades, future focused about what kind of job they're going to get later, even at a place at yale where most of them are going to get good jobs. those are not the kinds of things that promote well-being. it comes from being in the moment, social connection, counting your blessings and not worrying about the things in the future. >> when you talk about the social connections and social interaction and all the research suggests actual physical social interaction is very useful in giving people a sense of well-being. it seems to me that particularly for younger generation, they live in a world of social media interactions more than social interactions. do you think that plays a role? >> i think it's no coincidence that these kinds of mental health issues are coming up in this age where technology is pulling away the kind of normal social interaction we have. and that's true on social media, where i think people think they're getting social connection out of scrolling their instagram feed but haven't talked to a live person or made a real social connection. it's also all kinds of other tech. we don't talk to our cab driver and explain where we're going, because we've punched it into uber. we don't talk to the checkout clerk. we scan it on our own. research suggests it's those simple social connections, talking to the barista at the coffee shop or the person on the street, that can bump up well-being much more than we forecast. >> i think about the experience of dating. you used to go to a bar, you meet someone, and now, of course, you look at an app. >> that's correct. >> and evaluate somebody on very superficial criteria and you get evaluated and that can't be good for your sense of self worth. >> it's also activating another thing we know from the research that can be problematic, which is our social comparison. our mind is really good at picking out a reference point of who we should compare ourselves to. what should our salary be, how good should we look? we compare ourselves often in a bad way. and i think social media allows us for so much more kinds of comparisons that make us feel bad about ourselves on these different dimensions, attractiveness, wealth levels. for our college students, the grades they're getting. they talk about getting good grades. nobody talks about bad grades. increasing the number of social comparisons that happen on a daily basis and that's not good for well-being. >> in the course, what do you try to give -- what's the message you try to give about what does lead to the good life, what does lead to happiness? >> the first part of the message is that the sad thing that the science tells us is that our minds lie to us all the time. we miswant things. that's a hard thing to take. we think we need to change our life circumstances to become happier, we need a new job, bigger salary or need to move. the research suggests that our life circumstances play really little role. it's not what we forecast but what the science shows. what plays a much bigger role is our simple practices, like making a social connection or taking time for gratitude or taking time to be in the present moment, having some time that's unscheduled. >> what's interesting about what you're describing actually is it's simpler than what we think. we think what will make us happy is making a lot more money or moving to a different place or having a different apartment or partner, whatever. but what you're saying is really if every day you, i don't know, follow some routines where you make sure that you meet with some friends, have some social interaction, do a little exercise, whatever your day-to-day routine is, that can make you much happier. that's easier to do compared to doubling your income? >> exactly. i take the science of happiness of giving us a lot of good news. it's not the hard things you need to change. it's the simple things. the problem, as we know, as psychologists, even changing the simple things can be really hard. that's why we're only a few paying too much for insurance that isn't the right fit? esurance. an allstate company. ♪ (electronic dance music)♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest. 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In-depth examinations of global issues, featuring interviews and round-table discussions. enemies. now after meeting with jean-claude, he says the eu and u.s. obviously love one another. seemingly bizarre sbun predictable behavior is part of a canny and wise strategy, that he's playing a four-dimensional chess, operating in space time. if so, he's getting badly beaten here on earth. in none of these situations has he actually been able to extract real concessions and there is a cost to this bluster and flip flopping. trump is creating a reputation for the united states as erratic, unpredictable, unreliable and fundamentally hostile to the global order. leader after leader in europe has made this clear. george osbourne told me when he was britain's finance minister, you knew the united states president had your back. the most tangible data suggesting that the united states is losing its good reputation comes from the economist adam poser. he argues that countries are bypassing the united states and constructing a post-american world economy. you can see this in the flurry of trade agreements that don't include the u.s., from the transpacific partnership, which was signed minus america to the trade deal the european union just signed with japan and many others that are in the works. the most dramatic indication of the world side stepping the u.s., he says, is the decline in foreign investment in america. it has fallen off a chif, he to told me. net foreign investment into the u.s. has dropped by half since 2016. perhaps some of the decline is part of a longer term trend. other countries are growing faster than the u.s. but for decades, that reality has been countered by another reality. that among the world's rich nations, america was eunique in having strong growth prospects coupled with stable, predictable, pro-market policies. trump's attacks on trade, allies, his willingness to punish and reward individual companies and general unreliability all add up to a picture of policymaking that looks like that of an erratic developing company run by a strong man. the difference is america's strong man has the power to disrupt the entire global economy. for more tog to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington column this week. and now, let's get started. >> is the war between the united states and iran actually possible? the leaders of the two enemy nations have been threatening each other, since last weekend. it all began last sunday when iran's president, hassan rouhani said the war between two nations would be the mother of all wars. president trump, of course, responded late that night with a tweet that said, in all caps, never, ever threaten the united states again, or you will suffer consequences the like of which few throughout history have ever suffered before. iran's foreign minister responded similarly, in all caps, color us unimpressed. and the leader of iran's powerful force threatened thursday if trump began a war, it would be iran that ended it. tough talk. joining me now, robin wright, contributing writer at the new yorker and fellow at the woodrow wilson center, and the author of losing an enemy, now senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies. robin, what do you make of the tweets and is this a new policy? >> well, clearly, there's escalating tension between washington and tehran. what the administration believes the revolutionary government in iran is vulnerable and escalating the pressure economically, in terms of intelligence information campaign. it's gaming that the regime will be under such pressure it will have to go back to the negotiating table to talk, not just about the nuclear weapons program but also the wider array of issues we have with tehran, including human rights practices, its missile test, its meddling in the region, and the danger is that the iranians do not respond in a way that wads wa -- washington wants. the question becomes what else? is this a repeat of the momentum that we felt in the run-up to the war with iraq? the danger is that this is not north korea, this is not iraq. change approach. >> which you applaud? >> i do. i think it's the correct way to go, particularly at this time. i do believe that the islamic republic is internally weak and makes sense to deprive them of our currency. >> trita, i'm guessing you disagree. >> i disagree with the idea that the you tats is in a position and has the capacity to do a regime change in iran that would lead to a better government in iran, the iranian people certainly want to see democracy and are deeply frustrated with the current state of the country. but where is the last time, give me an example, of the united states doing a regime change in the middle east, that led to a proper democracy? i fear that the attempt at re g regime change -- i do agree with reuel, when you see everything that's happening, it's not compatible with the strategy for diplomacy, but some form of attempt at regime change. it might be a worse scenario, regime collapse. they might not try to replates government, just collapse the current government and allow the chaos inside of iran enable the balance of power in the regime to shift away from iran, which certainly would be to the benefit of saudi arabia and israel and would be to their preference. >> but would cause a lot of disorder in an already disorderly middle east? >> and tremendous amount of disorder in the country and set back the cause for democracy in iran at least one generation. it's difficult to to be able to see the u.s.'s involvement, particularly the trump administration's involvement, leading to a better scenario for democracy in iran. >> very quickly on this point, we've been pretty good at getting rid of bad regimes. we've been very bad at putting in a good, that is democratic regime, if you think about iraq and all these examples where it's been much harder to -- easy to get rid of a bad regime and much harder to bring democracy somewhere. >> you do have to have patience. most striking about iraq, the democratic system in iraq, as flawed as it is, hasn't disappeared yet. the mistake there was that we pulled out. we should have stayed. >> for how long? >> we have to be patient. and, obviously, the americans have, i think, a short attention span for these things, and certainly in the middle east, which is very demanding. >> do we really? we're still on the banks of iran, still in osaka and south korea, places where it makes sense because you're deterring an outside threat or anchoring the country. these are cases where you're trying to engage in a quasi colonial occupation, which is very difficult. look into afghanistan. is it better today than it was? >> i would argue that the intrusion of the united states into the iraqi government was less than probably what you had in germany after world war ii. you know, i would say that the more the united states is there, the better. >> robin, let me ask you, the point at which there seems to be some agreement is that what we're headed for is a kind of regime change like strategy. press iran, probably economically, but not -- the united states is not going to go into syria, yemen, lebanon to push back against iran. what you end up with is trita right, regime collapse and a very messy kind of situation? >> one of the things that everyone in washington is concerned about is what happens even if you get to the point that the regime is confronted, is vulnerable, does begin to either collapse or deteriorate? and there is no identifiable opposition group that has emerged that is popular at home. and so one of the question is, who would replace the regime? this is a country that has 80 million people. it borders not just the middle east but south asia, central asia. it is one of the most geostrategic properties in the world and has a good deal to say what happens on the strait of hormuz, through which a huge amount of the world's exports flow. so those of us who live a long way away, it is important. we're still militarily stressed whether in afghanistan, iraq, south korea, germany, that we don't have the resources to rebuild a country like iraq, much less a place like syria, which will have to be reconstructed at some point. and the idea of reconstructing another war zone is very daunting. so, whether it's just the collapse of the regime because of its inefficiencies, the opposition within or some kind of military campaign, plan b, what happens next, is a very unclear and in some ways the most frightening aspect of this issue. >> when we come back, we'll ask, what is actually happening inside iran? 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>> without a doubt the desire for democracy is very strong. they're the ones who have been pushing to move the country in that direction. the question is, will any interference or efforts from the outside help or undermine it? invariably in the 100-year quest we've seen for intervention, it's always set back the iranian people's aspirations. the 1953 intervention to unseat the democratically elected prime minister is the prime example. the government itself so far, we're not seeing any signs of panic. certainly a tremendous amount of discontent and protests that look very different from with an we saw in 2009. this is coming from the smaller cities that have not reached tehran yet, a class that is usually seen as being supportive of the regime. if there are efforts from the outside to fuel protests. >> robin, where do you come out on this? the united states pressure, does it help the iranian regime in a way that, for example, it helped the castro regime in cuba, because they can say they were battling the americans and american pressure, or is it, at the end of the day, pressure is pressure and it weakens the regime? >> probably both. the biggest pressure on the iranian regime comes from within. the fact that the majority of the voters today were born after the revolution and this is one of the most connected societies. it has a very sophisticated polity. they are aware of what happens in the rest of the world. they don't want to be a pariah and don't want to see their currency halved as it has in the past year. they want to buy their western goods and don't want to be stuck with inferior chinese stuff. i do think we're reaching a turning point. in august and again in november, u.s. sanctions go in effect. first, not just on iranian goods but any company that does business from any country with iran. and so this will undermine even those countries that have stuck to the nuclear deal, the companies in those countries are going to feel pressure not to deal with iran, because then they can't sell their goods to the united states. you see big global companies, france's totale, germany's siemen's. the pressure will mount. will there be this confluence of factors that really undermine the regime? just a year ago you saw almost 77% of the population in iran turn out for a presidential election, much higher than it was in the u.s. presidential election a year before that. there are still people willing to participate in a system a year ago. whether the system can collapse quickly, i think, is a big question. >> i think one thing we could be sure is the pressure is mounting and this is going to be a story to watch. thank you. thank you very much. >> next on gps, trump's tariff war and why it won't work. back in a moment. imer's associan walk to end alzheimer's, we carry flowers that signify why we want to end the disease. and we walk so that one day, there will be a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor. join the fight at alz.org/walk. i never thought i'd say this but i found bladder leak underwear that's actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. wlet's do it. ? 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>> don't blame the administration. don't blame japan. don't blame europe. blame china. >> well, china is a trade cheat that breaks the rules and bends others, as i have often said. these are problems. but trump's tariffs are not the answers. in mid june, the united states announced tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese imports. the overwhelming majority of them were on what's known as intermediate goods. in other words, parts for things like computers or cars or on machines used to build them. those are the kind of tariffs that will raise costs for manufacturers in the u.s. and the peterson institute found that those same tariffs would primarily target multinational companies operating in china, many of which are american, not chinese companies. the chinese europeans and canadians have all retaliated and their tariffs are much smarter. they target final products that will affect americans directly. kentucky bourbon, harley davdson motor si motorcycles, all seen as potent national symbols and many are located in the republican heartland. targeting them is designed to mobilize powerful republican legislators who have to answer to those voters. the best way to get china to reform its trade practices is for the united states, europe and other allies to work together. instead, the united states is forcing its allies into china's arms and many republicans are standing on the sidelines, as donald trump overturns yet one more of the defining ideologies of conservative. next on "gps," pakistan elects a new leader. what can we expect from the former cricketer? 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he has been strident anti-american. the trump administration seemed to turn up the pressure on pakistan. though it seemed a momentary spasm rather than a sustained policy. what's going to happen? >> i think that imran khan will try to reach out to the u.s., which he did in his first statement as well because of pakistan's massive problems. there's no money. pakistan needs every dollar and assistance that it can get. that said, i think it's also very clear that the reason why the pakistani military establishment supported khan was because they want status quo on foreign policy and international relations while wanting to change the status quo at home. on one hand, they do want a civilian government that is less corrupt but they want a civilian government that is morrow beadiebea -- more obedient to the military. i see no basis on which the united states and pakistan will be able to bridge the divide that has emerged between them. i do realize that the two countries will have to interact with each other but i don't think that interaction is going to lead us to anything different from what we have had in the past. >> laurel, what do you think? the united states and pakistan hasv had the same dance now since 9/11. the united states has said we're going to push you hard, because you are at the source of a lot of the terrorism coming out. you support these jihadis. you have supported them for decades. at the same time, the united states needs pakistan to fight some of these forces and so it never quite cuts pakistan off. this has been the dance ever since colin powell went to musharaf right after 9/11. >> you're right. i'm not expecting to see any change in the near to medium term in u.s./pakistan relations, any breaking out of that dynamic you just described. the united states is pursuing a policy and a strategy in afghanistan that makes the united states dependent on some level of cooperation with pakistan. there's no solution to the problems in afghanistan, no enduring stability in afghanistan without some degree of cooperation with pakistan. >> husain, what does this mean for pakistan? so many of the countries are moving, in some way, look at malaysia, moving away from authoritarianism. in some cases the military is even more dominant. where does this go? >> it has a very fixed notion of what pakistan's interest is. pakistan must see india as the eternal enemy. pakistan must have a dominant role in afghanistan and pakistan must be the center of the universe as far as that region is concerned. that is an untenable situation when your literacy is low and quality of education does not create the human capital. i think if, as laurel says, that the dependence on pakistan if the united states decides to pack up and leave pakistan, it leaves pakistan with no anchor and also its own domestic growth and pakistani military is betting heavily on china, expecting them to bail pakistan out. pakistanis alone can bail pakistan out and pakistanis need to think beyond the military as the country's savior, but the military does not allow that to happen. >> thank you both. husain, as you've often written, pakistan has invested far more in its military over the last 70 years in its independence than it has on education and human development. i suppose that statistic says it all. up next, if the rest of the show has gotten you down, the next segment will make you happy. i guarantee it. stay tuned. ♪ lean on me, when you're not strong ♪ ♪ and i'll be your friend ♪ ♪ i'll help you carry on ♪ ♪ lean on me. a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! this past january, a brand new class immediately became the most popular class in the history of the school. psych 157, but everybody calls it the happiness course, quickly enrolling more than 1,200 students according to the yale daily news, so many students that class had to be held in a concert hall. its popularity didn't end at yale. it soon became a viral sensation, featured in "the new york times", the washington post, and many more. what is all the fuss? professor lori sanders joins me now. >> thanks so much for having me. >> why did you decide to teach this class? >> the class came out of a different role i had at yale. i became one of their heads of college. it's kind of like hogwarts. i live on campus with the students, eat with them in the dining hall and hang out with them in the coffee shop. i saw them in the trenches in terms of what they were going through. as a faculty member i was shocked at the mental health issues i was seeing, frankly. this is the kind of thing that folks report not just at yale but a national trend that's getting worse. about 30% of students report being so depressed it's difficult to function. over 50% of college students report being anxious a lot of the time and over 80% say that they feel overwhelmed by all they have to do. this was not my college experience. it's not the kind of spot where we're going to be educating students well if they're this depressed and this anxious. >> data suggests that over the years, people have been asking for more and more mental health at colleges. why do you think this is happening? >> i don't know. i think there are a number of different things at work. my sense is that colleges are often prioritizing the kinds of things that science suggests aren't very good for well-being. overfocused on grades, future focused about what kind of job they're going to get later, even at a place at yale where most of them are going to get good jobs. those are not the kinds of things that promote well-being. it comes from being in the moment, social connection, counting your blessings and not worrying about the things in the future. >> when you talk about the social connections and social interaction and all the research suggests actual physical social interaction is very useful in giving people a sense of well-being. it seems to me that particularly for younger generation, they live in a world of social media interactions more than social interactions. do you think that place a role? >> i think it's no coincidence that these kinds of mental health issues are coming up in this age where technology is pulling away the kind of normal social interaction we have. and that's true on social media, where i think people think they're getting social connection out of scrolling their instagram feed but haven't talked to a live person or made a real social connection. it's all kinds of other tech. we don't talk to our cab driver and explain where we're going, because we've punched it into uber. we don't talk to the checkout clerk. we scan it on our own. research suggests it's those simple social connections, talking to the barista at the coffee shop or the person on the street, that can bump up well-being much more than we forecast. >> experience of dating. you used to go to a bar, you meet someone, and now, of course, you look at an app. >> that's correct. >> and evaluate somebody on very superficial criteria and you get evaluated and that can't be good for your sense of self worth. >> it's also activating another thing we know from the research that can be problematic, which is our social comparison. our mind is really good at picking out a reference point of who we should compare ourselves to. what should our salary be, how good should we look? we compare ourselves, often in a bad way. and i think social media allows us for so much more kinds of comparisons that make us feel bad about ourselves on these different dimensions, attractiveness, wealth levels. for our college students, the grades they're getting. they talk about getting good grades. nobody talks about bad grades. increasing the number of social comparisons that happen on a daily basis and that's not good for well-being. >> in the course, what do you try to give -- what's the message you try to give about what does lead to the good life, what does lead to happiness? >> the first part of the message is that the sad thing that the science tells us is that our minds lie to us all the time. we miswant things. that's a hard thing to take. we think we need to change our life circumstances to become happier, we need a new job, bigger salary or need to move. the research suggests that our life circumstances play really little role. it's not what we forecast but what the science shows. what plays a much bigger role is our simple practices, like making a social connection or taking time for gratitude or taking time to be in the present moment, having some time that's unscheduled. >> what's interesting about what you're describing actually is it's simpler than what we think. we think what will make us happy is making a lot more money or moving to a different place or having a different apartment or partner, whatever. but what you're saying is really if every day you, i don't know, follow some routines where you make sure that you meet with some friends, have some social interaction, do a little exercise, whatever your day-to-day routine is, that can make you much happier. that's easier to do compared to doubling your income? >> exactly. i take the science of happiness of giving us a lot of good news. it's not the hard things you need to change. it's the simple things. the problem, as we know, as psychologists, even changing the simple things can be really hard. that's why we're only a few months from january 1st and everyone has forgotten about their new year's resolutions. that's why the second half of the class focuses on a different part of psychology. that's the psychology of behavior change. as scientists we learned a lot about how habits work, how you can make habits stick better. how can you shape your situation to pursue the goals you want to have in your life? >> is there a simple rule, is there a simple answer to that? >> as you might guess, since behavior change is hard it's not super simple. one of the easy things to do is just do it. find a way to force yourself to do it over time. we know that habits build up by just simply doing them over and over again. another thing we know from science, is that social situation matters. you want to be around people who are supporting you, who give you some help in forming these habits. and that was one of the wonderful things about the course. we 1,200 students on yale's campus, providing a tremendous amount of social support. people were asking other students, what did you write for your gratitude list today, what did you do for time athletics? 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Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. and senior reporter for the "washington post,"er rinne blake and anna palmer. carol, let me go to you. you are writing now about how the president sees this interview with robert mueller, how his legal team sees the interview. here's the thing, rudy giuliani is talking and talking and talking about this. you know who's not? roberts mueller. >> that's absolutely true, hallie. robert mueller has been silent and the president's lawyers have been la quashs. but one thing has not changed and that's the essence of donald tru trump, which is he believes he's his best lawyer and own best pr guy and own best thinker and diplomat and in this instance, he does believe and has as we were reported back in the spring, has always believed that if he could just sit down with these people, he could straighten this all out and explain no collusion, this is a hoax. now, his lawyers also have changed slightly in the sense that some put their foot down at the beginning and said you are what rudy giuliani has said and others. april 30th, mueller having dozens of inquires for the president on the quest for the russia obstruction question. on may 7th, the president's lawyer said in the next ten days they would decide whether the president would testify. that deadline came and went with giuliani saying simply that mueller narrowed the scope of questions bringing us to august 1st when this apparent offer to limit the questions just this week, seth. limiting questions, is that a good idea if you're robert mueller? >> he may agree to limit the questions just to get trump in the room. if he wants a couple of -- we're going to ask you about obstruction and talk about lester holt, he's not giving away much. if that gets trump in the room which he wants more than anything else, he'll put some written questions on the paper. i think this is a lot of just kind of watching the weigh-ins before the big fight. i don't think this is really going to happen. >> written questions, is that really something mueller wants or he hooks them with the written stuff then it's a little bit of a bait and switch? >> i think that's exactly right. i think the written questions are pretty much filled out by the lawyers. they'll run them past trump then he says already did you say -- when you said to lester holt this firing of comey was about the russia thing, true or false? then they have 40 oral questions that follow up on that. >> you both cover this president, this administration. will the president -- is there a chance, listen this is a guy as i know from covering him and does what he wants to do. if he turns around and said tog talking to robert mule every, who's going to stop him? >> he not only does what he wants to do but does the opposite of what everyone tells him to do, almost just to spite them. >> right. >> it's interesting the approach carol noted initially was you're not doing this, no way. now they are like, okay, you can do it if you want but here are the reasons you shouldn't, including a perjury trap that they are putting forward and talking about very publicly now. the fact that they are waging this very public campaign to basically on tv get him to back off of the stance, i think is maybe one of the most significant developments here. >> and i think what's also really interesting, trump and the administration keep saying over and over again, we want to we achieve long sought conservative goals, stripping federal funds from planned parenthood. i take exception because if you watch the show, former official, we cover those things in our swamp watch and under the radar segments. but there's an idea even though the president is clearly spending time talking and tweeting about exactly this. there are other cogs in the wheel continuing to do the work on the policy side. >> i don't even think it's necessarily that media isn't focusing on these things. i think it's that the american people aren't interested in them related to the russia stuff. i think the president recognizes that. now whether this is a strategy to like say look over here while they are doing this whole dismanting of the federal government over here. that's -- it sounds like the administration is saying that but also liberals are saying that. they are saying look what's going on over here. let's not get distracted by this. when you have a president like this constantly making news and stoking controversy, it makes it that much harder to everything else to break through. >> we have a ton more to get to. i want to explore the look on your face. pleasure to have you, appreciate it. >> you bet. >> three months out from the midterms and it is crunch time for democrats, trying to bring out the star power with former president obama rolling out endorsements and set to hit the campaign trail. could this provide some direction to a divided base? 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a more powerful way to stay connected. it gives you super fast speeds for all your devices, provides the most wifi coverage for your home, and lets you control your network with the xfi app. it's the ultimate wifi experience. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. we take the impeachment of this president very seriously. >> democrats for reasons that i don't fully understand in d.c. want to bury this. when people tell us to stand down, we will not stand down. >> in the battle for the base, that is billionaire investor tom steyer taking aim at the president and own party in a town hall in new orleans last night, a founder of need to impeach and next gen political groups is putting his money where his mouth is putting money into key midterm races. democratic leaders stayed away from the impeachment bush, arpu more in line with the establishment, you've got president obama also trying to motivate the base, wading into the midterms for the first time endorsing these 81 candidates. >> we had trouble doing getting that obama coalition, that turned out for him in 2008 and 2012 to be portable to other democrats. we're trying to activate that base again to get into knethese races at the local level. >> tom steyer joins me -- thanks for coming back to the show. >> great to hear your voice. >> slight delay here. do you see yourself as working in concert with more establishment democrats or frankly in opposition, in contrast to them? >>. >> well, i think what's important this election season is that voters get as much information as possible and be as engaged as possible and show up at the polls. so i view that everything that people are doing including very specifically what president obama is doing with his endorsements as increasing the amount of information for voters to listen to and to be engaged with and therefore to be motivated to go out and make their vote be counted. >> to take one example of somebody who has become a lightning rod as it relates to the democratic party is for example, alexandra ocasio cortez, guess who is seizing on it, fox news, the wanter this morning, this is how they opened just today, which seems to illustrate the contrast here. she is somebody you support and back her. do you think there's a problem when democrats aren't able to come together around candidates? >> no, i don't. i think that the democratic party is listening to a lot of different people explain how we should go forward, including ala alexandria cortez and it is vital and important and lively and it is going to go on up until election day and after election. i think that that's the kind of conversation we should be having about how to best representing working families in the united states of america. >> you call it a conversation, tom. could you also call it a civil war? >> excuse me, could you say that word again, i apologize. >> you call it a conversation. could you also describe it as a civil war inside your own party? >> i don't think of it that way. i think that everybody within the party is doing their best to understand how to go forward and people are putting forward different ideas. sometimes conflicting ideas and think that is absolutely healthy and important. and the question is coming out of this election, will we take a big step forward in november and have to work to go forward to craft a message that responds and reacts to the american people? i think this is absolutely the way it should be going. >> based on our reporting though, tom, there are republicans who are licking their chops at the idea that there will be this kind of what you describe as healthy disagreement inside the party. we talked about last time you're on the show, talked about the impeachment move as an example. something you talked about last night in new orleans. the argument has been that democrats more of them will vote based on this issue, that this will be a mobilizing issue, even though there are others on the establishment side who disagree. there's also parallels to the abolish, i.c.e. movement, the head of i.c.e. coming out and using this as a political example why democrats should not be elected. are you concerned that that, for example, is going to back fire? >> i think that the major point for the democratic party is going to be to reflect and lead the american people. so i don't think we should be spending our time worrying about what republicans are going to do or how republican voters view what we say. what we should be trying to do is tell the truth about the most important issues in america. because i believe that is what will motivate democratic voters and american citizens in general to reengage in politics and show up at the polls. so from my standpoint, i don't want to hear what the republicans want us to say. what i want us to do is try to tell the most important truth and represent the american people. >> tom, is there any way that that may be an overly optimistic or perhaps idealistic way of looking at it that overlooks the political realities on the ground, the gop does want to use this to their advantage in direct contrast to what you want to do? >> in my opinion, every time someone gets very cute and overly smart about political tactics and forgets the basic values of our country, they make a big mistake. i think it's one of those questions where we should keep it simple and stick to the truth and try to do what's right. i think that's the winning strategy as well as the correct strategy and moral strategy. >> two more quick questions, you talked about leadership moving forward after november. one of the things that is part of a big discussion happening now inside the party is this issue of al franken and whether he should run again and role that kirstin gillibrand played in that. do you think al franken should run again? is she being unfairly maligned calling for his resignation? >> oh, my gosh, i did not -- to be fair, hallie, i didn't know that was an issue. you've just brought it up for the first time. >> it is. kirstin gillibrand did an interview where she clapped back at george zoros who came out and said if he's so concerned i'm para phrasing about women and how they are being treated, that's his problem, not mine. she's standing by calling for resignation of franken. as you know she was one of the first senators to do so. shefls the first female senator, others followed within a matter of minutes. now with al franken suggesting that perhaps he would want to get back into the political realm, it seems there's a real clash here between supporters of gillibrand and those who still back al franken. do you think franken should run? >> as far as i'm concerned, the most important question in any one of these should run or shouldn't run questions is what do the voters think? i think if he does run, this will be a question where his behavior and his past is fully vetted and they put it up to the citizens of minnesota. to a very large extent, i think we should be asking the american people what they think instead of what a small number of people inside the party think. to me the question that the democratic party has to answer, how are we best going to represent the american people and let their voice be heard. >> so yes or no, tom, are you going to run? do you want to? 2020, you haven't ruled it out. >> hallie, what i have said repeatedly is that i'm going to work full-time as hard as i can through the election day to try to flip the house and take the biggest step forward for the democratic party as possible. i'm going to be watching to see if people are telling the truth to the american people and that's going to be a big defining point about what the right thing to do is after this election. >> tom steyer come back and talk to us about it, okay? >> i will hallie, thank you very much. >> thank you, appreciate it from new orleans. >> the tennis court and $15,000 os strich jacket, how prosecutors wants to talk about a bigger issue, how he paid for it all and might be part af bigger crackdown. is it possible paul manafort might actually help drain the swamp? ...you may have overactive bladder, or oab. ohhhh...enough already! we need to see a doctor. ask your doctor about myrbetriq® (mirabegron). it treats oab symptoms of urgency, frequency, and leakage. it's the first and only oab treatment in its class. myrbetriq may increase blood pressure. tell your doctor right away if you have trouble emptying your bladder or have a weak urine stream. myrbetriq may cause serious allergic reactions... ...like swelling of the face, lips, throat or tongue, or trouble breathing. if experienced, stop taking and tell your doctor right away. myrbetriq may interact with other medicines. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. common side effects include increased blood pressure, common cold or flu symptoms,... ...sinus irritation, dry mouth, urinary tract infection, bladder inflammation,... ...back or joint pain, constipation, dizziness, and headache. need some help managing your oab symptoms along the way? 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turns out those are key questions for prosecutors inside that courtroom right now on day three of this trial because it's how manafort paid for all of that stuff that's gotten him here. bank fraud and failing to report foreign bank accounts. that brings us to pages and pages of wire transfers included in the evidence brought by the prosecutors because he paid for the suit and mercedes not with a credit card, not with a check, but allegedly with wire transfers out of foreign bank accounts. ken delain yan, it has been a fairly newsy first hour of the trial today. we have learn who prosecutors want to see on the stand, right? >> reporter: absolutely. hallie. yesterday the news was that a prosecutor said rick gates, the right hand man presumed to be start witness, might not testify after all. today the prosecution walked that back and told the judge they have every intention to call gates as a witness. they certainly are trying to tailor their case to rebut the defense claim that this was all rick gates' fault and he handled the finances and if any illegality happened it was his fault. we also had news on question of how much the jury can be shown photos of manafort's lavish spending. overnight at about 2:00 in the morning showing how hard the mueller team is working, they filed a brief arguing the judge had been improperly excluding this evidence, including you showed photos there, but there are other more detailed photos of closets full of suit. he spent a million dollars on cost om suits and $3 million on regular vags renovations in the hampton's homes. judge excluded them and prosecution said he was wrong. this morning judge ellis rebutted that and said we're not going to show these pictures, it besomewhere muches the defendant and we're not going to do it. the last -- most recent witness said that manafort spend $2.2 million over four years on television a.v. internet services at his various homes in palm beach and hamptons and new york, $2.2 million, most transferred from kbroefr sovers. >> is part of the argument not showing morge of the pictures t keep this case moving? he's sort of known as the rocket docket, to keep the pace up? >> reporter: no, that's two issues. this whole district in alexandria known as the rocket docket and ellis is pushing them to keep the case moving. in this case ellis thinks it's a matter of fairness, the manafort's not on trial for being rich. >> putting a pin on that one. appreciate it. joining us, katie benner at the new york times. katie, you have a piece out today looking at the broader effects basically of mueller's digging and visibility of the manafort trial, telling you and your colleague lon byibbyists a hunting for advice, saying the phone rings much more often with this question than it did two years ago. so in a weird way, katie is the manafort trial kind of draining the swamp? >> it's so interesting, one of mueller's legacies is going to be that he and perhaps not the president is the one who started to drain the swamp. he's uncovered a vast amount of money coming from foreign governments into washington, d.c. to try to influence u.s. politicians. >> i want to bring in anna palmer on this who i know has some thoughts. >> yeah, i think that what he's done is showing what happens in the influence industry. what i would bet if this actually will increase the cost and price that lobbiests able to charge -- >> why? xbl i'm going to work for this rogue government, i'll do it but the cost benefit analysis is i'm going to potentially be in the news. you have lawyers looking into this now, much more. the retainers will go higher and people will not stop -- countries are not going to stop saying we don't want to influence the u.s. government anymore. >> katie, the atlantic makes this point too, saying the trial of paul nan ma fomanafort, is a not to be ignored and occasion for the united states to awaken from its collective slumber about the creeping dangers. what do you make of that? >> well, certainly i think the justice department would agree recent speeches from officials and recent cyber intelligence report they just put out, it's clear they feel that part of the counterintelligence mission now includes looking at influence. we used to think of counterintelligence as cracking down on spies and trying to find people stealing secrets and now the justice department and other parts of the intelligence community have made clear this also includes finding people running influence campaigns in the united states. some of which as we saw with the election have been designed under mine u.s. democracy. >> what are people missing about the trial that's not at the tip of the tongue when it comes to this conversation? what do folks need to know that they don't already? >> i'm sorry, i didn't hear, is this for me? >> yes, katie, go for it. >> sorry, my mike cut out. i think a couple of things people should know, this is a broad look by the government. it's not just looking at foreign lobbyists but people who would be considered foreign agents. it is looking at people who have come into the united states and working on behalf of a foreign government for what the u.s. department of justice would consider a political end and also one thing to know is that in the senate right now, there are bills floating around that could give the justice department more strength, more teeth when it comes to cracking down on some of these violations. and that right now, that legislation is dead in the water. so we'll see what happens there given the fact that russian influence and foreign influence is being considered more of a threat. >> katie benner, i appreciate it. coming up, millions of people in almost every state all across the country are feeling the brunt of a major cyber attack. how hackers from overseas got a hold of credit card numbers and why the breaches are getting more sophisticated. two of the people who head this investigation, one of the biggest at the fbi joining us coming up. it's the ford summer sales event and now is the best time to buy. man: (on tablet) preparing classic campfire trout. say what? 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>> that's exactly right. hallie, we very much appreciate your talking about this issue. we in law enforcement want to address it and want to make sure that the folks who are behind this kind of conduct that we hold them accountable and what we talked about yesterday was doing just that. >> we hear about facebook and foreign influence campaigns but your argument is you're actually more concerned with stuff like this, right? why, annette? >> it all matters but when we've got folks who are far away and who think they can hide behind their key boards and hurt folks here in the united states and cause us not to trust the systems we use, that's a problem and we in law enforcement of very focused on addressing that issue. >> jay, let's talk tactics here, spear fishing is something -- i work for a corporate company and get the spear fishing warnings, don't open this or click on that link. was the technology particularly sophisticated or new or different or another example of what we've seen before? >> hallie, good morning, thank you for having us. it is pretty sophisticated in the way they did it. thy would target a restaurant or a hotel chain, a specific like a catering department or reservations and send an attachment that would say catering request. and they would call the employee and ask them to open the catering request word document and that would allow them to install the malware on the computer systems and then from there that malwaxt are difficult to detect and circumvent security systems and extri indicate numbers. >> did companies have adequate defenses in place. we talk about the ways to secure election infrastructure in the world of politics, but what about business networks and the stuff people around the country are using every day? >> i'm told that the key vulnerability here is the point of sale transaction computer equipment and software. this is actually a very difficult malware to detect. many have fire walls and systems that will eventually detect this malware, the problem this group, they altered this malware over time to make it less detectible. a lot of companies fell victim to this. in fact, in the neighborhood of 120 companies. >> it's a huge breach. it was a big bust for the both of you and annette, how much more is out there? what do we know about the breadth or depth of this organization. what else is there? >> it's an ongoing investigation. we're determined to find all of those who are responsible and bring them to justice and that means ongoing work, fbi, my office together working all around the world with our counterparts everywhere to make sure we find these folks and ensure that they can't continue to take advantage of our systems. >> we thank you both for your hard work you do every day and annette hayes and jay tap jr., thanks for being on the show. >> the president putting in mileage for the gop on the campaign trail but slamming one of the biggest donors in the meantime. what is up with the mixed messaging? could the president's fuel with charles cook actually hurt republicans in november? we have much midterm madness coming up in three minutes. s ben you're needed most. he's the one. 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because they've been in play long before donald trump has been in play. donald trump is new to this game. koch brothers have been on the ground since the 2010 elections. they have had the effort already in place working with the national party, working with state parties, working with satellite. >> i guess my question is you're donald trump, you came in and won this election, without any of that. and now you think you can go and help people without any of that too. he was proven right once before. >> donald trump winning primaries is not him winning general elections. can we stay focussed on what the game is. the game is who is finish the -- get across the finish line with a within in november to hold the house. right now donald trump is losing that battle. i don't think he much cares that he's losing that battle but he is. >> i like that you're yelling at me about it. >> i'm yelling at him about it because we're in a very stupid place we don't have to be here. we built this over the last six or seven years. it took a lot to take the house in 2010 and clearly it doesn't take much to lose it in 2018. >> you're freaked out about it. >> i'm no the freaked out about it because i'm in the chairman. >> what do you make of this. >> the chairman is going to have to address that, no the me. >> in the republican party you have the base almost completely united behind the president. in a lot of cases no the questioning many things he does even when they don't necessarily like them. then you have the establishment who has been very cautious about dealing with trump, warmed to him over the last 18 months or so. but groups like this, the koch brothers have lined up behind republicans in recent years but also a libertarian leading organization. they don't have the loyalty. they are looking out for their causes. it's not necessarily to the republican party. so if the republican party is going to go in this direction they don't like, this he have enough power where they can try to bring it back. >> we're learning now from one of our reporters, according -- these closed doors sessions, they will now back americans for prosperity's tim phillips, back nor gop candidates in west virginia than previously thought. >> the kochs are getting a lot of credit. it's not as if they're saying we're going to put a bunch of money towards democrats. i think this kind of media fire storm is really overblown. >> let's talk about something not overblown based on your reporting. ana's been working on stories relating to what's happening in next tuesday's special election. what is going down in ohio. michael, i want you on this too. they show a dead heat. mike pence was out monday, the president adding things this weekend for him. is the trump factor going to be the magic touch here? >> they hope it is but i think the numbers belie that particular point now. again, a poll a week out from a primary -- especially election is one thing. we'll see how it plays out ultimately, but it's a chilling moment for the party in that regard. >> okay. >> it's ohio. >> it's ohio. >> we typically do well. >> it's always a pleasure to have you on. thank you. >> down the hall. >> thanks for popping over. you guys hang out. coming up after the break. we will also talk about the big picture. i was just finishing a ride. i felt this awful pain in my chest. i had a pe blood clot in my lung. i was scared. i had a dvt blood clot. having one really puts you in danger of having another. my doctor and i chose xarelto®. xarelto®. to help keep me protected. xarelto® is a latest-generation blood thinner that's... proven to treat and reduce the risk of dvt or pe blood clots from happening again. in clinical studies, almost 98% of patients on xarelto® did not experience another dvt or pe. xarelto® works differently. warfarin interferes with at least 6 of your body's natural blood-clotting factors. xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor. don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase risk of blood clots. while taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. it may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. learn all you can... to help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. talk to your doctor about xarelto®. booking a flight doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. ann we are back with "the washington post" aaron blake and politico's anna. i want to start with you anna. your sources are talking about what we were. ohio especially election. >> we reported today you're going to see money coming on the republican side. my sources are saying look for democrats to also increase spending. 35 years this seat in r-plus 7 has been in republican hands. >> it kind of escaped notice earlier in week when it was reported that robert mueller the special counsel has referred to the cases about these potential violations, foreign lobbying from tony podesta, others, referred them to the southern district of new york just like michael cohen of course. my sources tell me this is a reflection of the fact mueller is very much focussed on people who are related to the russian investigation. now, of course, that's not terribly surprising but i think it does counter what the president is saying, what his allies are saying, which is that the manafort case has nothing to do with russia. we're just focussed on bringing down a guy because he was involved with trump. i think this is a very good signal mueller still views this as a potentially significant case, even though this has to do with things that happened before the campaign and before 2016. >> thank you guys for coming on. see you next week. we're going to wrap up as always with today's big picture, it's from england. a little girl holding a frog. why? 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A morning show that highlights the latest headlines in news, weather, sports and entertainment, and is known for the cohosts' casual and spontaneous... he had all the information on democrats. he had all the information on everybody, he went to jail holding the hands of the justice department or the fbi. they sat there together. they were smiling and laughing. and he got nothing. and he stole money and he had more information on corruption of the democrats than anybody and they don't even have his computers and his servers. they just gave him nothing. you saw that it was on your show. they gave him nothing. nothing. ainsley: double standard? >> double standard? i mean, he was worse than anybody, in my opinion. he got nothing. he's a democrat. he got nothing. the reason he got nothing is because the dems are very strong in the justice department. i put an attorney general who never took control of the justice department. jeff seghtsdz. never took control of the justice department. it's sort of an incredible thing. we have this country going so well. mike pompeo is doing incredibly, all of my people, they are doing incredibly. but the whole thing going on with justice and fbi, when you see strzok and his lover lisa page. when you see comey with all the lies that he has told. when you see mueller with the conflicts, he's so conflicted. comey is his best friend. he had a really nasty business transaction with me, which he never reported. i have been talking about he never reports it. i mean, you look at the bad things. he wanted the fbi job that christopher wray has. now christopher wray was recommended by rosenstein. the fbi -- i will tell you what if you took a poll in the fbi i will tell you one thing i would do very well. ainsley: are you considering pardoning paul manafort? >> i have great respect for what he has done in terms of what he has gone through. you know he worked for ronald reagan for years. he worked for bob dole. i guess his firm worked for mccain. he worked for many, many people, many, many years. i would say what he did, some of the charges they threw against him, every consultants, every lobbyist in washington probably does. if you look at hillary clinton's person, you take a look at the people that work for hillary clinton, i mean, look at the crimes that clinton did. with the emails and she deletes 33,000 emails after she gets a subpoena from congress, and this justice department does nothing about it? and all of the other crimes that they have done. and they -- look at podesta. podesta was supposed to be manafort on steroids. they made him close up his firm. he was going to be indicted the next day, we heard. never happened. instead, they go after manafort. so, look, i didn't know manafort well. he wasn't with the campaign long, they got him on things totally unrelated to the campaign. by the way they got cohen on things totally unreality to the campaign. i'm not involved. i wasn't charged with anything. people don't like to say that, i wasn't charged. but, when you look at the corruption on the other side and they refuse to look at anything. when you don't look at strzok where he said basically we're going to take out the president, the insurance policy and everything else. you look at lisa page, the two lovers back and forth with these horrible, these horrible texts. you look at the kind of talk going on about it's really a subversion. and our justice department doesn't do anything about it people say oh, but you appointed jeff sessions. i said i did but i really feel as long as this is going out i don't have to do this but i will stay uninvolved and maybe that's the best thing to do. ainsley: mr. president, a lot of people are frustrated. a lot of people are frustrated with the doj and jeff sessions. there are rumors you are going to fire him after the mid terms and rosenstein. they want these documents. they are wondering if you will use your power to get the documents released. >> at the right time i think i will have to do the documents. yingts to, but i think i'm going to have to. there is such corruption before i got here. it's from before i got here. it's the obama administration you look at what happened? they're surveilled my campaign. it's very simple. the fisa report. ainsley: rosenstein signed the last fisa report. >> it bothers me. ainsley: will you fire him? will you fire sessions? >> as i said, i wanted to stay uninvolved. but when everybody sees what's going on in the justice department, i always put justice now with quotes. it's a very, very sad day. jeff sessions recused himself, which he shouldn't have done or he should have told me. even my enemies say that jeff sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself and then you wouldn't have put him in. he took the job and then he said i'm going to recuse myself i said what kind of a man is this? by the way, he was on the campaign. the only reason i gave him the job i felt loyalty. he weighs an original supporter. he was on the campaign. he knows there was no collusion. and what's come out of manafort? no collusion. what's come out of michael cohen? no collusion. this is stuff that they got. how about with michael cohen, in all fairness to him, they raid his office at 6:00 in the morning? how about with manafort, they raid his home at like 5:00 in the morning, i think, on a weekend and his wife is in bed and they go in with guns? this isn't al capone. steve: okay. so you will have five more minutes here in about half an hour. ainsley: that's right. the big take away from that portion of it, he said the payout money he said it came from him. it didn't come from the campaign, so, therefore, it's not a campaign violation. also, he said he was never going to pardon paul manafort. it sounded like to me might be considering it. he didn't say yes, but he didn't say no. steve: he sounded like he was sympathetic toward paul manafort. we heard last night on shannon's show that one of the jurors who spoke out was sympathetic towards paul manafort it should have been a tax audit. it shouldn't have been a trial. brian: thought the prosecution was lazy and bored and the defense could have done more for paul manafort but in the end they had some aspects. really good. part of the pressure on michael cohen, they will take down his wife, too. because she cosigned the tax returns. that's part of the reasons why he seems so broken with the president. ainsley: talk about mollie tibbetts, the democrats, do they want to impeach him, and nazi guard deportation. steve: thanks, ainsley. brand new information about that illegal immigrant who is charged with killing mollie tibbetts out in iowa. former homicide detective ted williams retraces mollie's steps. you will see him live next. you ready for this, junior? 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i have heard both? >> no. this was during the daylight, ainsley, that she was running. brian: l.s.u.ly, everify, turns out they were not using the right everify the very least, right, ted? >> yeah, they were not using the right everify set up by homeland security and they also found that according to the farms that rivera gave them somebody else's identification and social security number. steve: that's right. very good. however, his lawyer said he entered as a minor which would bring up the question did he have daca status and the federal government says no. ted, thank you very much. live report from des moines, iowa. ainsley: more "fox & friends" coming up. o business s. like the ones we teach here, every day. use less data with a network that has the most wifi hotspots where you need them and the best 4g lte everywhere else. saving you hundreds of dollars a year. and ask how you get xfinity mobile included with your internet. plus, get $300 back when you buy a new smartphone. xfinity mobile. it's simple. easy. awesome. click, call or visit a store today. ainsley: goo jillian: good morning back with headlines and we begin with fox news alert. brand new information on that knife attack in france. we now know the suspect killed his own mother and sister and seriously injured a third woman in the paris suburb of trappes. isis claiming responsibility. police shot and killed the suspect. this comes hours after the head of isis, thought to have been dead, resurfaces in a 54-minute audio recording. the voice of the man claiming to be al baghdadi is urging followers to continue fighting. we will keep you posted. republican congressman duncan hunter and his wife set to face a judge today after being indicted on fraud charges. the california representative now slamming his prosecution as a witch-hunt, saying in part, quote: the fact is that there is a culture operating within our justice department that is politically motivate you had. the couple is accused of using 250,000ness campaign funds to pay for personal expenses, then covering it up ohio state football coach urban meyer benched over the mishandling of the assistant coach case. he also apologizes for knowing that he knew about allegations against an assistant coach. zac smith was kept on staff for several years after meyer reportedly learned about the accusations. brian? brian: thanks, jillian. 25 minutes after the hour. an american hero honored by the white house more than 16 years after he made the ultimate sacrifice. get this, leading the charge to rescue a fellow service member in afghanistan, air force technical sergeant john chapman was killed by enemy fire in 2002. >> in this final act of supreme courage, john gave his life for his fellow warriors. through his extraordinary sacrifice, john helped save more than 20 american service members. our nation is rich with blessings but our greatest blessings of all are the patriots like john. brian: that was just some of the ceremony yesterday. president trump recognizing his bravery posthumously. awarding him the medal of honor. his family in attendance to accept the award on his behalf. with us now this morning are two that were there. sergeant chapman's sister lori long and his mom mary chapman. welcome to all of you. i'm wondering, ivan all these years later, can you ever get over the sadness you feel of not having him here, teri? >> not really but you learn to live around it. he would want life to go on and live life to the fullest. brian: lori, in particular, hearing the president of the united states outline what he did in his final account of bravery, must have been just awesome. >> it absolutely was. i was just so proud of john there is more to the story but what was said yesterday just warmed my heart. i was thrilled to have it finally happening after all these years. brian: so the story goes, they are in afghanistan, and it turns out there was a man, neil roberts, left behind. they needed volunteers to join the seal team to go in there your brother is a member of the air force. first medal of honor recipient to get in the air force in this active conflict. he volunteers to go in. when they finally go, in he ends up clearing out a bunker by himself, being shot nine times and continuing just to save somebody that he doesn't -- that he barely knows. what's your reaction to that? >> that doesn't surprise me at all. that's just how john lived his life throughout -- from the time he was a small boy doing the right thing because it's the right thing and something that he has always done. brian: teri, in particular, your son volunteering, what stands out with you about these series of events? when did you start seeing these acts of courage in your son? >> from the time he was a toddler. he was always compassionate toward everyone and would always want to do whatever he could to help them. i mean, he wasn't an angel. he could be a little rascal but on the most part he always cared about others first. brian: when you get the call that your son is a medal of honor recipient, what process did you go through and then as you get invited to the white house, what was the day like? >> the day was absolutely awesome. i mean, there were so many wonderful things happening and seeing all these people coming out to honor john. and show their love for him. it made my heart really smile. brian: who was in the room, lori, besides you guys? >> all his teammates that -- everyone who could possibly be there. >> childhood friends. >> childhood friends who would have crawled to get there. just to make sure that they were there to honor john, too. brian: technical sergeant john chapman will live on in infamy for his on the battlefield for his courage and timber is tested he stood strong. you have to be proud. >> absolutely. brian: teri and lori thanks so much. congratulations, teri on raising such a great man. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. brian: thanks so much for joining us this morning. meanwhile, the person those two family members just with yesterday was president trump. guess who else was there? 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>> mollie is this beautiful young girl, hot father -- i watched the father, he kept saying i sort of doubted it was going to happen, she is coming back. she just left but she is coming back and i say that's called hope. and it's a beautiful thing in a way. it's hope. but now there is no hope. she was killed by a horrible person that came in from mexico. illegally here. found by ice. our great ice, who is abused by the democrats and the left and without them you might not be sitting here so comfortably right now. ainsley: um-huh. >> i just think it's so sad. we're building the wall. it's already started. we have spent 3.2 billion on it. we are asking for five billion for this year's funding. the wall is going up. a lot of people don't know it. i would like to build it even faster, but dealing with the democrats is very tough. the immigration laws are horrible. we're doing incredible job. we are doing record breaking job. but we have bad laws. when you have bad laws you can do good but you could do better if you had good laws. change but we have to elect more republicans. ainsley: nazi guard living here in new york in n. queens. ice officials deported him. why was that important for you? that was on your agenda, has been since the beginning. >> i have a lot of jewish friends who said to me about this man living in queens. i grew up in queens. that's where i grew up. and he was a man not just a prison guard, he was a prison guard that supervised the killing of many, many jews. many, many jews. has lived here for decades. and he walks the street of jackson heights. i know jackson heights very well. i walk the same streets. and he -- i don't know, people came up to me and from the beginning of the campaign they tell me about this nazi who lived in who walks the street like he owns the place. now he is an old man, 95 years old. and the obama administration was unable to pull it off. and frankly, the bush administration was unable to pull it off. dove hiken, a very democrat assembly man from new york. heavy democrat. this is a guy who never heard of a republican, knock he was giving mee such praise. it was so nice. he said thank you, mr. president. it was so nice to watch. frankly because is he a democrat -- i don't care whether is he a republican or democrat -- what he did was something nobody else was able to do. but i have been done many things like that. they don't get reported. they don't get reported. what we're doing for heck is incredible. we are even keeping the remnants of obamacare. we mostly got it killed and we got rid of the individual mandate, but we are getting the remnants of obamacare, the increase is much less than people thought, that's because of us. and we are getting rid of it slowly and putting in new healthcare systems which is a beautiful thing. ainsley: 76 days away from the mid terms, hard to believe. if the democrats take back power, do you believe they will try to impeach you? >> well, you know, i guess it says something like high crimes and all -- i don't know how you can impeach somebody who has done a great job. i will tell you what, if i ever got impeached, i think the market would crash. i think everybody would be very poor because without this thinking, you would see -- you would see numbers that you wouldn't believe in reverse. if hillary clinton got elected. instead of 4.1 up and each point is $3.5 million and 10 million jobs. when i took it over it was at 1. and it was going to be down -- it was going down. i freed up, i got rid you have regulations. the tax cut was a tremendous thing. but even before the tax cut, right from first day i got rid of regulation, i approved the pipelines, 48,000 jobs. but, i did a lot of things. had hillary and the democrats gotten in. had she been president, you would have had negative growth. we picked up $10 trillion in worth. china, by the way, has gone down $15 trillion, okay? and when i came, in china was a dom nantz force. now, they like me very much. i get along great with president xi. but i said we can no longer give you 500 billion a year on bad trade deals and you see what's happened over the last 90 days. the reason i even waited was because of north korea. i wanted china's help on north korea otherwise i would have done it sooner. china has been a big help on north korea. i said i have to get going now on trade. last year china made 570 -- we had a deficit with china $517 billion. no not going to happen anymore. steve: you were lucky enough to get a 22-minute interview. we are showing you the interview, for the most part in big chunks so you see everything. ainsley: that's right. we did not edit it so everything the president sat down and told me you are going to see this morning. brian: you caught um with him on a day around 4:00 in the afternoon the day prior paul manafort's campaign manager, michael cohen, a long-time attorney for 10 years. ainsley: mollie tibbetts. brian: all happens at one time. with the michael cohen situation it's still unholding. got to be disconcerning. able to concentrate through. to think about the things michael cohen knows about the organization and the campaign and the president and to think that he has gone all lanny davis which is basically hillary clinton is -- must be really unnerving. ainsley: i'm sure. we got his reaction to all of that news. i was so grateful that he sat down with us after such a crazy news day so we could hear his side of the story. we also asked him is the press the enemy of the people? that's come up in the next chunk. steve: and he is going to actually give himself a grade, right? ainsley: that's right. steve: you will be surprised to here what that is. more of anxiously's exclusive interview with the president of the united states coming up, including this: > ainsley: what grade do you give yourself so far? steve: i'm telling you, it's going to surprise you. you will see that in the next hour. brian: and alexandria ocasio-cortez is bummed this coffee shop is closing. has anyone told her it's because of policies that she supports? stuart varney promised to walk this way and he did. just like in rehearsal. steve: no coffee? ♪ ♪ oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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[laughter] >> i'm american. i'm not a socialist. steve: you are now. >> i am now, that's right. steve: stuart, we will be watching for that interview tomorrow and watching over on fox business this morning at 9:00 a.m. >> thank you very much, steve. appreciate it thank you. steve: coming up straight ahead on this thursday more of ainsley's exclusive one-on-one interview from the rose garden with president trump. his thoughts on michael cone, paul manafort and the attorney general jeff sessions and his future straight ahead. plus, todd piro takes to the skies with the world famous air force thunder bird. he is back on the ground this morning for the "fox & friends" all-american road trip. that is coming up from the rv next. ♪ arms around me baby ♪ i just want to fly ♪ what you want ♪ get your arms around me baby ♪ put your arms around me the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. in -- todd: no better way to travel across our great land than an rv. meet one of our two rides this week. this is the winnebago that win . great for going to check out air shows which brings me to our second ride of the week this f-16 fighting falcon. it, too is small. it, too, packs punch. its mission as the air force says is to drop warheads on foreheads. it also gave me the thrill of a lifetime time to take this road trip from the ground to the sky thunder bird. todd: that was pretty okay maybe i can fly with them? >> the thunder birds represent the national guard and airmen deployed around the world. todd: why do you do air shows. >> three fold to recruit, retain and inspire. we travel across the america represent what the air force is doing every day. you will get to experience something not many get to do strap into f-16 fighting falcon and go on the ride of your life. how are you feeling today. >> nerves. last week in dollywood. the dollywood roller coaster. >> gotcha. todd: i keep hearing this is going to be an athletic event i haven't done workout since 1995 soccer practice. >> you will crush it. they say you can't take your -- thunder bird media. piro maniac. this probably works. >>e>> todd, you ready to go? >> as ready as i will be. >> actually on there, how cool is that? that's awesome. >> it's go-time. >> this is amazing. this is just amazing. unbelievable. >> pulled over 6 gs still no small feat. [cheers] >> todd, welcome back to the earth here. everyone bring it in. >> it's an experience i will never forget. i'm speechless. and that is rare. ♪ and steve and ainsley, you know that our job is to be able to describe things. i'm still speechless 48 hours later both on the physical side of it to explain what g force feels like 6.4 gs, in fact, but also the emotional experience, the team aspect of what i saw. it's not just the pilot i went up with, it's 130 men and women who make the thunder birds what they're. their representation of the air force, which is obviously much larger. it is one big team that defends our skies and defends our nation. i was able to be a partly of it and i cannot fully describe what it was like. steve: fantastic. >> besides saying it was awesome. ainsley: did you get sick, todd? >> ainsley, let's just say so far on our all-american summer radio road trip i'm 0-2 when it comes to intestinal fortitude. i'm hoping next week in st. augustine the ghost tour is different. find out more about that foxnews.com/road trip. fingers crossed for next week. steve: todd, i think you should stay in the rv and not get out of it places safer down on earth. steve: nicely done. todd: might be a smart move. ainsley: thanks, todd. more of our exclusive interview with president trump including a look back at his term. watch this. what grade do you give yourself so far? 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we will keep you posted with the very latest from paris throughout the morning. brian: reason why they think it's a recording because it reifers to the u.s.' friction with turkey which would show he has been alive for the last week or. so. steve: in the meantime, i don't know if you were watching the last couple of days have been big news days. it was so perfect, the timing that you had arranged an interview with the president. ainsley: that's right. i'm grateful he sat down with us to get the record straight. hear from his side about what he thought about paul manafort and michael cohen and jeff sessions. we will air the entire interview. we have already been doing that this morning. we didn't edit out anything he said. we are showing you in different chunks. this what you are about to see is 12 minutes about talking about paul manafort michael cohen and jeff sessions. listen. ainsley: mr. president, thanks for sitting down with me. how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. we had incredible rally last night in west virginia. it was beautiful. tremendous crowd. and i think we are going to win a race, a big race over there. and i guess you could say that our numbers in winning, whether it's for the senate or for congress or for governor has been very good. ainsley: how is our country's first lady doing and how are your children. >> she is doing great. she is a terrific woman. she goes through a lot with all this publicity but she is a terrific woman. she is doing great. ainsley: how do you handle all of that? >> well, it's part of my life. i guess my whole life has been this way. somebody said oh, gee, this is always such controversy. and i don't know, i have always had controversy in my life. and i have always succeeded. i have always won. it was controversial when i ran and i won and now the country is doing better than it's ever done. we have the best economy we have ever had. in the history of our country. more jobs today, literally today we have more jobs, more people working in the united states than ever before in the history of our country. black unemployment, asian unemployment. women unemployment. hispanic unemployment. historic lows. it's been an amazing thing. and, you know, unfortunately live the media never coforts cos that they don't like to cover that type of thing. they like to cover nonsense. it's one of those things. ainsley: speaking of, yesterday, huge news day. a lot breaking today as well. michael cohen, tell me about your relationship with him. >> well, he was a lawyer for me for one of many, you know, they always say the lawyer and then they like to add the fixer. well, i don't know if he is a fixer. i don't know where that term came from. but, he has been a lawyer for me. didn't do big deals. did small deals. not somebody that was with me that much. you know, they make it sound like i didn't live without him. i stud michael cohen very well. he -- turned out he wasn't a very good lawyer, frankly, but he was somebody that was probably with me for about 10 years. i would see him sometimes. when i had deals, i had outside lawyers and i have a lot of inside lawyers, too, in addition to michael. i always found him to be a nice guy. ainsley: he said one story said you didn't know anything about the payments. now he is saying that you directed him to make these payments. did you direct him to make the payments? >> he made the deals. he made the deals. by the way, he pled to two counts that aren't a crime which nobody understands. i watched a number of shows, sometimes you get pretty good information by watching shows. those two counts aren't even a crime. they weren't campaign finance. ainsley: did you know about the payments? >> later on i knew. later on, but you have to understand, ainsley, what he did and they weren't taken out of campaign finance, that's a big thing. that's a much bigger thing. did they come out of campaign? they didn't come out of the campaign. they came from me. i tweeted about it i don't know if you know but i tweeted about the payments but they didn't come out of campaign. in fact, my first question, when i heard about it was did they come out of the campaign because that could be a little dicey. and they didn't come out of the campaign. and that's big. but think weren't -- that's not -- it's not even a campaign violation. if you look at president obama, he had a massive campaign violation but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. you know, we have somebody that they seem to like to go after a lot of republicans. but, he settled his very easily. in fact, i put that out fairly recently so obama had it. other people have it almost everybody that runs for office has campaign violations. but, what michael cohen pled to weren't even campaign related. they weren't crimes. ainsley: why is he doing this? he is your attorney. >> he made a great deal. he was in another business totally unrelated to me where i guess there was fraud involved and loans and taxicabs and all sorts of things. nothing to do with me because he had an outside business. he worked for me. you could really say it was more or less part time. he had other businesses. he had other clients. i'm not his only clients. and michael cohen had, i guess, a taxi business and somebody reported him for some things in his taxi business. and that's how this started. and they put the two counts of campaign violations in there but a lot of lawyers on television and also lawyers that i have seen that they are not even crimes. ainsley: if you are saying payments are not illegal, then why we even -- why would he use that information for a plea deal? >> because he makes a better deal when he uses me like everybody else. one of the reasons i respect paul manafort so much is he went through that trial. they make up stories. people make up stories. this whole thing about flipping, they call it, i know all about flipping for 30, 40 years i have been watching flippers. everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is. or as high as you can go. it almost ought to be outlawed. it's not fair. because if somebody is going to give -- spend five years like michael cohen or 10 years or 15 years in jail because of a taxicab industry, because he defrauded some bank, the last two were the tiny ones, campaign violations are considered not a big deal, frankly. but, if somebody defrauded a bank and he is going to get 10 years in jail or 20 years in jail, but if you can say something bad about donald trump, and you will go down to two years or three years, which is the deal he made, in all fairness to him, most people are going to do that. and i have seen it many times. i have had many friends involved in this stuff. it's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal. you get 10 years in jail. but, if you say bad things about somebody, in other words, make up stories if you don't know, make up stories, they just make up lies. alan dershowitz said compose, right? they make up lies. i have seen testimony times. they make up things and now they go from 10 years to they're a national hero. they have a statue erected in their honor. it's not a fair thing. but, that's why he did it he made a very good deal. i mean, for what he did. but i will tell you somebody made a better deal awan, the it guy for schultz. congresswoman schultz. he had all the information on democrats. he had all information on everybody. he went to jail holding the hands of the justice department and the fbi. they sat there together. they were smiling and laughing. and he got nothing. and he stole money. and he had more information on corruption of the democrats than anybody. and they don't even have his computers and his servers. they just gave him nothing. you saw that. it was on your show. they gave him nothing, nothing. ainsley: double standard? >> double standard? i mean, he was worse than anybody, in my opinion. he got nothing. he is a democrat. he got nothing. the reason he got nothing because the dems are very strong in the justice department. i put an attorney general that never took control of the justice department, jeff sessions. never took control of the justice department. and it's sort of an incredible thing. we have this country going so well. mike pompeo is doing incredibly, all of my people they are doing incredibly. but the whole thing with going on with justice and fbi, when you see strzok and his lover, lisa page. when you see comey with all the lies that he has told, when you see mueller with the conflicts, he is so conflicted. comey is his best friend. he had a really nasty business transaction with me, which he never reported. i have been talking about he never reports it. i mean, you look at the bad things, he wanted the fbi job that christopher wray has. christopher wray was recommended by rosenstein. the fbi, i will tell you what, if you took a poll in the fbi, i guarantee you one thing, i would do very well. ainsley: are you considering pardoning paul manafort? >> i have great respect for what he has done in terms of what he has gone through. you know, he worked for ronald reagan for years. he worked for bob doll, he worked, i guess his firm worked for mccain he worked for many people. all the charges they threw against him every lobbyist in washington probably does. if you look at hillary clinton's person, you take a look at the people that worked for hillary clinton, i mean, look at the crimes that clinton did with the emails and she deletes 33,000 emails after she gets a subpoena from congress and this justice department does nothing about it? all of the other crimes. look at podesta. podesta waste suppose you had to be manafort on steroids think made him close up his firm. he was going to be indicted the next day, we heard. never happened. instead they go after manafort. so, look i didn't know man ford well. he wasn't with the campaign long. they got him on things totally unrelated to the campaign. by the way they got cohen on things totally unreality to the campaign. i'm not involved. i'm not charged with anything. people don't like to say that but i wasn't charged. when you look at the corruption on the other side, and they refuse to look at anything. when you don't look at strzok where he said basically we are going to take out the president, the insurance policy and everything else. look at lisa page, the two lovers back and forth with these horrible, these horrible texts. you look at the kind of talk going on about it's really a subversion. and our justice department doesn't do anything about it. people say oh, but you appointed jeff sessions. i said i did. but, i really feel as long as this is going out, i don't have to do this but i will stay uninvolved and maybe that's the best thing to do. ainsley: mr. president, a lot of people are frustrated a lot of your supporters are frustrated with the doj and jeff sessions. rumors you have will fire him after the mid terms and rosenstein. they also want these documents. they are wondering if you will use your power to get these documents released? >> at the right time i think i have to do the documents. i didn't want to. but i think i'm going to have to. there is such corruption. before i got here. it's from before i got here. it's the obama administration. and you look at what happened, they surveilled my campaign. it's very simple. the fisa report. the phony. ainsley: rosenstein signed the last fisa report. >> it bothers me. it has always bothered me. ainsley: will you fire him? will you fire sessions. >> as i said i wanted to stay uninvolved when everybody sees what's happened in the justice department. i put justice in quotes. jeff sessions recused himself which he shouldn't have done. or he should have told me. even my enemies say that jeff sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself and then you wouldn't have put him in. he took the job and then he said i'm going to recuse myself. i said what kind of a man is this? by the way, he was on the campaign. the only reason i gave him the job because i felt loyalty. he was an original supporter. he was on the campaign. he knows there was no collusion. and what's come out of manafort? no collusion. what's come out of michael cohen? no collusion. this is stuff that they got. ainsley: right. >> how about with michael cohen in all fairness to him, they raid his office at 6:00 in the morning? and how about with manafort, they raid his home at like 5:00 in the morning, i think, on a weekend and his wife is in bed and they go in with guns? ainsley: yes. >> this isn't al capone. steve: a lot of news has broken right there. very clearly the president of the united states says michael cohen's actions were not crimes. he has been described as a fixer by others. he says he worked essentially part time for me. i had a lot of lawyers. ainsley: the payout money came from him. not the campaign. he said so it is not a campaign violation. what also stuck out, he never said that he was going to pardon paul manafort it sounded like to me might be considering it he never said and he never said no. he really didn't answer the question. brian: charges paul manafort charges are real. he pardon something clearly looks as though overwhelming evidence he did. especially the next trial coming up. that's pretty much the issue. he is not pardoning from anything he did for him he is doing it for things that have nothing to do with him. that might be where the rubber hits the road with republicans. you don't want to alien nate republicans because what do you have in the house and senate? meanwhile -- do you want to audit anything? ainsley: the next chunk, his interview, i asked him is the press the enemy of the people and we also asked him what's the grade you would give yourself? steve: um. brian: michael cohen faces years in prison for violating campaign finance laws. president obama 2008 campaign failed to reveal campaign contribution they got $300,000 fine. what do you mean it's not working out, craig? i just introduced you to my parents. psst! craig and sheila broke up. what, really? craig and shelia broke up!? no, craig!? what happened? i don't know. is she okay? ♪ craig and sheila broke up! craig and sheila!? ♪ as long as office gossip travels fast, you can count on geico saving folks money. craig and sheila broke up! what!? fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. means passing it down. we know that hunting actually helps our nation's wildlife grow stronger. we know that this isn't just what we do, it's who we are. we know the great outdoors. we love the great outdoors. bass pro shops and cabela's bring you the fall hunting classic with huge savings. like this cuddeback black flash game camera for only $75. and these keen men's waterproof hiking boots for under $90. thethe more you know theme, commute is worth it. for all the work you pour into this place, you sure get a lot more out of it. you and that john deere tractor... so versatile, you can keep dreaming up projects all the way home. it's a longer drive. but just like a john deere, it's worth it. nothing runs like a deere. now you can own a 1e sub-compact tractor for just 99 dollars a month. learn more at your john deere dealer. ainsley: payments. >> later on i knew. later on. you have to understanding, ainsley, what he did and they weren't taken out of campaign finance. that's a big thing. that's a much bigger thing, did they come out of campaign? they didn't come out of the campaign. they came from me. steve: president trump telling ainsley, answering questions about payments he made from his 2016 campaign, but former president obama's 2008 campaign failed to disclose contributions and they only faced a fine here to weigh in said not crime; is that correct? >> that is 100 percent correct. he made a payment not related to the campaign and there was no crime there whatsoever. as i understand it legal segments are not campaign contributions; is that accurate? >> that is accurate. in this context it's not accurate because it was related to something not directly about the campaign it was a personal expense, a business expense. this happens all the time and, in fact, jo john edwards had his campaign contributor. steve: he did. and president obama during his campaign there were hundreds of thousands of dollars worthy of violations and he just got a fine. >> he got a fine, which is not unusual for the federal election commission. his error there was reporting those late. so, in the bigger picture, you know, that doesn't bother me so much. what does bother me is that we had exposed last year that $17 million over the course of 20 years was paid out by a congressional hush fund to settle -- to settle sexual abuse or mismanagement issues. and that's clearly not a campaign violation. steve: interesting stuff. mark, we thank you for joining us live with your point of view on what the president is telling ainsley. all right. thank you, sir. >> thanks, steve. steve: coming up, more of ainsley's exclusive interview with president trump, including this. >> the press. is the press the enemy of the people? steve: his answer straight ahead. plus one thousand dollars bonus cash. day after fictional silent sam was fell in north carolina. vice president pence helps a congressman's wife. can you see belinda falling to the ground in texas. she was not hurt. what a gentlemanly act there. brian? brian: thanks, jillian. 25 minutes after the hour. college students pay are more than ever for their education. 200 percent increase. and what are they getting for their money? some very unique class. some of the most popular courses at these universities are cropping up all around the country like, for example, politicizing beyonce psychology and the good life. sociology of miley cyrus when she was hannah montana. i believe that's when it starts and how to win a beauty pageant which by the way i know. is this really what higher education looks like in the future? here to react editor and chief of campus reform.org lawrence jones. lawrence, great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> you want to get magna cum laude majoring in beyonce could pay off. >> nobody loves beyonce more than me. i love her as a person and entertainer. guess what? that's not what i'm going to school for trying to get a career something that pays me and get out of poverty and that whole thing. the cost of college has increased over 200 pours over the last 30 years. part of it is because they are taking all these crazy courses because it helps them in their whole, you know, their mood and the coddling. and so what we have been reporting on at campus reform is that the increase of these courses that don't contribute to work life once they graduate is part of the cost. brian: i heard rutgers there is a lot of people who sign up for that course. >> there is not a lack of young people -- the problem is a lot of these social science degrees, the market is saturated, brian there is a lot of openings for math and science out there. even when they release the job numbers, a lot of those opening jobs were in math and science. when it comes to social science, history and all this stuff, not de grading it it's not enough jobs there. brian: just reminds me a little bit what ivanka was talking about and mike rowe talking about. getting people to think for themselves. maybe college is not for me but skills and a career. we need plumbers and electricians. >> i don't know if you looked at your last plumbing bill or electric bill they get paid very well. so much of the electricians even get paid 6 figures. i'm not saying that they cannot take courses to have fun but at the end of the day they have got to look at the bottom line. not their emotions but what they do when they get in the workforce. brian: yale psychology and the good life. fascinating. skidmore the sociology of miley cyrus and oberlin how to win a beauty pageant. death in america, how will you die? there is uplifting class. >> i'm sure your life is not going to be good when you can't go into the workforce and find a job. you can have fun but look at the long-term strategy. like i said i love beyonce but if you want to learn her culture go to her concert. don't go into the classroom to learn about beyonce. brian: crazy courses in college. lawrence jones editor in chief. >> send us lots of tips when you see this crazy information contact us at campus reform.org. brian: get an a in beyonce and miley cyrus fail. 20 minutes after the hour, lawrence, by the way, can we get a conversation on, this is this true, joel, he will be hosting outnumbered. that will be true at 12:00. you won't be wearing a bow tie or not? >> no bow tie. meanwhile the video is troubling. you have an officer begging for help as a suspect tries to grab his gun. instead of jumping into action everybody stood by. and more of ainsley's exclusive interview with the president of the united states including there. >> what grade do you give yourself so far? 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"new york times" cannot write a good story about me. they are crazed. they are like lunatics, if i do something well, i often joke i will do some great things like meeting with kim jong un. that was a great success. hey, they have been working on this for so many years and they got nothing. i just left, what, three months ago or less, i left singapore you had no missiles shot, no rockets shot no. nuclear testing and we got back our hostages and i have a good relationship with them. you know, we have a good chemicals together. i don't know if that's good or bad. we have a good chemicals. i spoke with prime minister abe of japan this morning. he started the call by saying i want to thank you for the great job that you have done with north korea. he said we haven't had missiles shot over japan in so long the people of japan feel safe. mr. president, i want to thank you for the great job have you done with north korea. they don't feel that hostility. when i took over president obama thought we would have to go to war with north korea. i asked him did you ever speak to kim jong un? he said no. i said wouldn't it be a good thing to give a shot? if you remember, the only thing they got me on, they said he spoke, he met. look, i didn't give him anything. he has nothing except sanctions, okay. very heavy sanctions on north korea. put them on yesterday because we would like it to go faster. i didn't give him anything. never forget talk about the fake news. they said donald trump met-out first day was incredible. nobody believed i was able to do it. obama couldn't get a meeting. clinton couldn't get a meeting. bush couldn't get a meeting, you know, with the family. nobody could get a meeting. and this one is tougher than the father. i say that with respect, but he is tougher than the father and tougher than the grandfather they couldn't get a meeting. i got a meeting. even make news said it was unbelievable. five or six hours went by and they had to get their narrative straight and they said, very interesting. donald trump agreed to meet. that was supposed to be like a loss. it was a great success. my meeting with putin was a tremendous success. i got killed by the fake news. they wanted me to go up and punch him in the face. i said i want to get along with russia. i want to get along with everybody. they said i was too rush on north korea. remember that? too rough. but with putin they said i was too soft. my meeting with putin was a tremendous success, syria, ukraine and if you look at crimea, that was given away by president obama. it has nothing to do with me. nobody wants to mention that we have had tremendous success and just to finish. nato, i raised hundreds of billions of dollars from these countries that weren't paying. they were delinquent. they weren't paying their bills. the press doesn't like to talk about that. the press talks about the fact that i insulted a lot of the leaders because i was strong on the fact that they had to pay. i said no, the united states is not going to be paying your bills. with that i'm having a good time. ainsley: guys, what's your take away from that. brian: a couple things. everything is describing is not about him it's the country. trump organization doesn't get bigger. they don't get anything -- what he is like to do is make it safer, grow the economy, is he trying to make our allies act like true allies. partnership. we are on the threshold of cutting a deal with mexico. canada has been watching. nafta deal. china is here trying to renegotiate. ask yourself, what's his benefit? none personally, he gave away his salary. is he doing it to rebalance american trade. that's what people like. steve: you look at all that good news that he feels is not being covered and that's why he feels like -- that's where fake news came from. in people. interesting to describe that chunk as 80%, which he apparently thinks is fake news. is not accurate. is not favorable toward him. i don't know that his answer is going to the people in the press and others who think that that, you know, enemy of the people think is inflammatory and he should not use it. it sounds like is he going to continue to use it whether people like it or not. brian: and what bothers him, i think, too. when you come to illegal immigrant story murdering this 20-year-old jogger out of iowa when the press doesn't want to write it's an illegal immigrant here and that's exactly what they adopt to do on immigration. they leave that out of headlines or the story or claim people are politicizing it rather than recognizing it. ainsley: we did is ask him with mollie tibbetts and what he thought about the arrest of that illegal immigrant. we will play that section of the interview next hour. brian: by the way are you making all these decisions look how control you are. ainsley: wonderful teammates make those decisions and tells me: talk about himself giving a grade and always ask what is the grade you would give yourself right now? and this is his response. what grade do you give yourself so far? >> >> so, i give myself an a plus. i don't think any president has ever done. two years biggest tax cuts in history. soon to be two unbelievable supreme court justices. i'm sure that justice kavanaugh will be approved. justice gorsuch has been a star. you look at all of the things we have done with regulations. the economy is the best it has ever been in history. the only thing i'm doing bad in is the press doesn't cover me fairly. i thought after i won -- they killed me during the campaign. just killed me. one good thing about winning i have showed them. so now i'm going to get fair press. guess what? it got worse. it's worse. so the press does this. i would honestly give myself an a plus and so would many other people. you go to the people of west virginia, you saw them last night, that went to a state that was down and out and now it's flourishing. you go to some of these states that were down and out and now they are doing fantastically well. when i finish the trade deals, you watch what happens for our farmers which have been going down for 15 years. you watch what happens. they are are going to be very, very happy. they are going to be very wealthy. ainsley: a plus. write us and let us know what you think his grade is friends@foxnews.com. steve: we when we interviewed him in february of 2017 you asked him that question, how we grade himself and he said for achievement i would give myself an a but for communication and getting the word out he said he would give himself a c at that point. so it's interesting. given he has actually been able, to he says achieve things. he is now at an a plus. brian: that's something that hasn't come with nancy pelosi. nancy pelosi says we are doing a lot of great things we just don't brag enough about it so, again, they -- he has learned to brag about it so there you go. these people are just covering. ainsley: hand it over to jillian for more headlines. jillian: good morning to you. let's start with this. a officer begs by standers including a female security guard to put down the phone and help. watch this. >> why did you do that. >> oh my god. [screams] >> >> well, that woman security guard now out of a job after the viral video caught her recording the whole thing and not helping. of the suspect 17-year-old da von miller is charged with disarming a police officer, education secretary betsy de vos reportedly considering letting school districts use federal funding to buy guns. that's according to the "new york times." fox news reached out to the department of education and they say, quote: the department is constantly considering and evaluating policy issues, particularly issues related to school safety. secretary nor the department issues opinions on hypothetical scenarios. not broadcasting our national anthem during monday night football the network tells "u.s.a. today" they don't plan to show it and haven't for years. fox sports will air during veterans day and playoffs. it follows espn's announcement they will not show the star-spangled banner before games. president trump urging supporters to sign a petition against espn's decision calling it, quote. finally surrendered to the politically correct liberal mob. send it back to you. steve: so no anthems on cbs. brian: fox going to go game to game we don't know for sure we about to find out. they are going to do thursday night football from this very studio in new york city. steve: there you go. outside of the studio where they're going to be adam klotz wute with the weather whee it was rain ago little while ago. >> it was raining. did you get rained on a little bit. >> yes. adam: i came out here and got rid of it i might get a cheer for that or something. [cheers] adam: i came out here and got rid of that rain moved on through the area. it's dry out here. that's not the case everywhere. we are tracking a big storm across big portions of the pacific. this is hurricane lane category 4 storm. winds 145 miles per hour. this one is not expected to get real close to land until late tonight into early tomorrow morning. good thing about this system, guys, winding down. stale big storm. might not make landfall but it's going to be weakening, by the time it gets parallel with honolulu on friday winds should be down make it just a category 1 storm. but that's going to be one we are paying very close attention. to say out here i think everybody is pleased make america great again. everybody is pleased that it's no longer raining. back to you guys. steve: adam, thank you very much. still ahead on this very busy thursday. more of ainsley's exclusive interview with president trump. ainsley: are you considering pardoning paul manafort? steve: you're going to want to hear that answer and it's coming up. brian: plus one boat company may have to lay off workers because of tariffs. they are trying it a new strategy to keep everyone afloat. gerri willis joins to us explain. ♪ ♪ ♪ let's fly, let's fly away ♪ ♪ just say the words ♪ and we'll beat the birds down to acapulco bay ♪ ♪ it's perfect for a flying honeymoon they say ♪ ♪ come fly with me ♪ let's fly, let's fly away ♪ ♪ come fly with me ♪ let's fly, let's fly away ♪ bundle and save big, but now it's time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? 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ainsley: thank goodness, wow. a large boat maker down in florida may soon cut its workforce in the wake of the new tariffs. steve: before they start laying off employees, the company wants to try growing their business here in the united states. fox business network gerri willis is live at the regal marine industries in florida with more on the plan. hey, gerri. >> that's right. hey guys ainsley, steve good morning. these folks start early, 5:00 a.m. take a look at this facility. a recreational boat facility. we are regal boats. this is an american made, american owned company for three generations. and every 92 minutes, one of these babies, one of these babies right here gets kicked off the production floor and they are pumping these boats out. but this industry is under incredible pressure from retaliatory tariffs from china, from the eu, canada, mexico that is impacting their business. the eu tariffs as high as 25%. if they make one of these boats for $100,000 they sell it eu buyer. it cost $125,000. so, this industry under duress right now. we talked to the ceo this morning. he says he is not taking any action right now. but he is thinking about it i want to show you take a look at this. you can see this is a family-owned company. made in the u.s.a. what most people have no idea about though is they look at these boats is that 95% of the boats on the water in the u.s. get this made in the u.s.a. it's quintessentially an american industry. the ceo also told me that they have had orders cancel all canada, all eu orders have been cancelled while this whole tariff issue plays out. so we are going to be talking to him a little later in the day. let me tell you, this is fascinating. american made, american owned for 49 years. the cook family has owned this company and it's just amazing what they are doing here. we'll keep an eye on it back to you. steve: all right, gerri, thank you very much. if anybody is in the market for a boat because they are trying to grow the boat business in the united states. check out the regal line, it looks great. ainsley: thanks so much, gerri. we have more of that exclusive interview with president trump, including his thoughts on michael cohen. now he is saying that you directed him to make these payments. did you direct him to make these payments? 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famous for having democrats who are pro-life democrats that don't follow exactly in line with the rest of the party. this group the wallace global fund which is the family charity for that donated to these literally millions of dollars to population control group taxing to the hilt any family that has more than two children and get this, this is my favorite part. the charge that they level against these people is irresponsible breeding. it just doesn't seem like a real winner to me. brian: hard to put on a bumper sticker. [laughter] >> i don't know i think his opponent can put it on a pretty good bumper sticker. ainsley: call him antihuman candidate anti-third child and fourth child. if you do have a big family you will be taxed to the hilt. why are the democrats endorsing this guy? why is he their choice? >> i think what they liked about him is that he is extremely rich and the party that claims to represent the poor really likes rich candidates because that means they can fund themselves. this is pennsylvania first district of pennsylvania. all the experts say it should be in play, held by a republican. should be opportunity for democrats to take it over but, you know, i just sort of hard to see how that happens with a gik like this. ainsley: did he advocate or did his foundation donate. >> his campaign is quickly distancing themselves from this. while ran the organization gave $7 million to this organization. brian: by the way reached out to wallace's office for a statement and have not heard back. set grandson of franklin wallace. brian: i'm sure his ancestors are extremely proud. resolution on the democratic side for this whole we got the president now we're going to impeach him. how real is this? >> i think they are very serious about it. but, and you have a lot of people in the party who really do want to see this happen but i don't think that -- i think the truth of the matter is it's a good political tactic for them. it's a good way to gin up their base. a lot of people in their base that rex sighted -- get excited by this. brian: bottom line it gins up the base for the republicans. it gets them motivated. >> independents too. it turns independents off. ainsley: we did ask the president about it in that exclusive one-on-one interview. we will have his reaction coming up in the next hour. brian: yes. one-on-one interview with ainsley is coming up. todd piro takes to the skies with a famous thunder birds. it's all for the "fox & friends" all-american road trip. ♪ i love the custom ink design lab because it's really easy to use. they have customer service that you can reach anytime. . . s hundreds of products for your business and free shipping. upload your logo or start your design today at customink.com. to defend. ainsley: one-on-one with the president, we sat outside and had about a 22-minute conversation about the news of the day. so we are going to show you the entire interview, what we have done is we have broken into chunks and this is the first chunk that deals with how he's doing, how melania is doing, paul manafort and jeff sessions. >> thank you so much for sitting down with me, how are you doing? >> i'm doing great, we had incredible rally last night in west virginia, it was beautiful, tremendous crowd and we will win a big race over there and i guess you could say that our numbers in winning whether it's for the senate or for congress or for governor has been very good. ainsley: how is our country's first lady doing? >> she's doing great, terrific woman, she goes through a lot with all of the publicity but she's a terrific woman, she's doing great. ainsley: how do you handle all of that? >> well, it's part of my life, i guess my whole life has been this way. everybody says, this is controversy and i don't know, i've always had controversy in my life and i've always succeeded and i've always won. we have the best economy in the history of our country and more jobs today, literally today, more jobs, more people working in the united states than ever before in the history of our country, black unemployment, asian unemployment, women unemployment, hispanic unemployment, historic lows. it's been amazing thing and, you know, unfortunately the media never covers it. they don't like to cover that kind of thing, they cover nonsense. ainsley: yeah, yesterday huge news day, a lot breaking today as well, michael cohen, tell me about your relationship with him. >> well, he was a lawyer for me for one of many, you know, they always say the lawyer and then they like to add the fixer, i don't know where that term came from, he didn't do big deals, small deals, not somebody that was with me that much, they make it sound like i didn't live without him, i understood michael cohen very well, turned out not to be good lawyer, frankly, he was probably that was with me for about ten years and i would see him sometimes, but when i had deals and big deals i had outside lawyers and inside lawyers too in addition to michael. i always found him to be nice guy. ainsley: he said one story, you didn't know anything about the payment and now you're saying that you directed him to make the payments, did you direct -- >> he made the deals, by the way, he pled to two accounts that aren't a crime which nobody understands. i watched a number of shows, sometimes you get pretty good information by watching shows, those two weren't crimes. ainsley: did you knew about the payments in. >> later on, later on. you have to understand, ainsley, what he did ant weren't taken out of campaign finance, that's the bigger thing, did they came out of campaign, they came from me and i tweeted about it, i don't know if you know, i tweeted about the payments, but they didn't come out of campaign, in fact, my first question when i heard about it was did they come out of the campaign because that could be a little dicey and they didn't come out of the campaign and that's fake. but they weren't -- it's not even campaign violation. you look at president obama he had a massive campaign violation, but he had a different attorney general and they viewed it a lot differently. we have somebody that they like to go after a lot of republicans, but he settled his very easily, in fact, i put that out fairly recently, so obama had it, other people have it, almost everybody that runs for office has campaign violations but what michael cohen pled to weren't even campaign related. they weren't crimes. ainsley: why is he doing that? >> he made a great deal. he was in another business totally unrelated to me where i guess there was fraud involved and loans and tampa tampa -- tae worked for me more or less part time, he had other businesses, he had other clients, i'm not his only client. michael cohen had a, the taxi business and that's how they it started, they put campaign violations in there but a lot of lawyers on television and also lawyers that i have seen that are not even crimes. ainsley: if you're saying the payments, if they are not illegal, why would he use that information for a plead deal? >> he makes a better deal when he uses me like everybody else. one of the reasons i respect paul manafort so much, he went through the trial. they make up stories, people make up stories. the whole thing about flipping they call it, i know all about flipping for 30, 40 years, i have been watching flippers, everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as highest you can two. it almost ought to be outlawed. it's not fair. if somebody is going spend 5 years or 10 years or 15 years because of taxi cab industry, he defrauded some bank, the last two were the typy ones, campaign violations are considered not a big deal frankly. but if somebody defrauded the bank and he's going 10 years in jail or 20 years and if you can say something bad about donald trump and go back to 2 years or 3 years which is the deal he made n all fairness to him, most people are going to do that and i've seen it many times, i've had many friends involved in this stuff, it's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegally. you get 10 years in jail but if you say bad things, make up stories if you don't know, make up stories, they make up lies, allen dershowitz said compose, make up lies, i have seen it many times, make up things and now they go from 10 years to national hero, they have a statute erected in their honor. it's not a fair thing and that's why it's a big deal for what he did. the it guy to congressman schultz, all the information, they sat there together, they were smiling and laughing, they got nothing, he stole money, had more information on corruption of the democrats or anybody, they don't even have computers and his computers, they just -- you saw that, it was on your show, they gave nothing, nothing. >> double standard? >> double standard, he was worst than anybody in my opinion. he got nothing, he's a democrat. he got nothing. the reason he got nothing is because the dems are very strong in the justice department. i put in attorney general that never took control of the justice department, jeff sessions, never took control of the justice department and sort of an incredible thing. we have the country going so well, mike pompeo is doing incredibly, all of my people are doing incredibly, but the whole thing with going on with the justice and fbi, when you see strzok and his lover hissa -- lisa page and when you see comey with all the lies and you see mueller, he's so conflicted. comey is his best friend. he had a really nasty business transaction with me which he never reported. i've been talking about it, he never reports it. you look at the bad things, he was an fbi and was recommended by rosenstein. the fbi -- if you took a poll in the fbi, i guaranty you one thing, i would do very well. ainsley: are you considering pardoning paul manafort? >> i have great respect for what he's done in terms of what he gone through. you know he worked for ronald reagan and bob dole, i guess -- his firm worked for mccain, he worked for many, many people, many, many years, what he did, some of the charges they threw against him, every consultant, every lobbyist in washington probably does. if you look at hillary clinton's person, you take a look at the people that worked for hillary clinton, look at the crimes that clinton did with the emails and she deletes 33,000 emails after she gets subpoena from congress and this justice department does nothing about it and all of the other crimes that they've done and they -- look at podesta, podesta was supposed to be manafort on steroids, they made him close up his firm, he was going to be indicted the next day we heard, never happened. instead they go after manafort. so, look, i didn't know manafort well, he wasn't in campaign long. they got him on things unrelated to campaign. by the way, they got cohen unremitted -- unrelated with the campaign. i wasn't charged with anything, people don't like to say, when you look at the corruption, they refuse to look at anything, when you don't look at strzok when he said basically we will take out the president, the insurance policy and everything else, you look at lisa page, two lovers with the horrible, horrible texts, you look at the kind of talk going on about it's subversion and our justice doesn't do anything about it, people say, but you appointed jeff sessions, i said i did, but i really feel as long as this is going out, i don't have to do this but i will stay uninvolved and maybe that's the best thing to do. ainsley: a lot of people are frustrated, a lot of supporters are frustrated with doj, jeff sessions, a lot of rumors that you will fire after midterms and will you get power of release. >> at the right time i will do the documents, i didn't want to, there's such corruption, before i got here, it's before i got here, it's the obama administration and you look at what happened, they surveilled my campaign. it's very simple. the fisa report, the phoney -- ainsley: rosenstein signed the last fisa report. >> it's always bothered. ainsley: would you fire him? >> as i said i wanted to stay uninvolved but when everybody sees what's going on in the justice department, now put justice with quotes, it's a very bad day, jeff sessions rescued himself which he shouldn't have done or should have told me, even enemies say that jeff sessions should have told you that he was going to recuse himself and you wouldn't have put him in. he took the job and then he said i'm going recuse myself. i said what kind of a man is this, and by the way, he was on the campaign, you know, the only reason i gave him the job because i felt loyalty, he was an original supporter, he was on the campaign, he knows that there was no collusion. and what's come out of manafort, no collusion, what's come out of michael cohen, no collusion. this is stuff that they got. how about with michael cohen, they raid his office at 6:00 o'clock in the morning and how about with manafort, they raid his home at like 5:00 in the morning even on the weekend and his wife is in bed and they go in with guns, this isn't al capone. steve: made a lot of news and in listening to it again, the president said something very interesting when you were asking about the release of the documents that the republicans want up on capitol hill. he said at the right time i may have to order the doj to release them. what would the right time would be? probably right after brett kavanaugh is confirmed by the u.s. senate. i didn't want to do it before, would like to do before midterms. brian: the dems are saying, the president is in so much legal turmoil we have to hold off on brett kavanaugh confirmation. steve: looking for excuse. ainsley: the payout money that came from him not his campaign, so it's not a campaign violation and he also said he was going to -- he never said he was going to pardon paul manafort but it sounded like to me that he might be considering it, he never said yes and he never said no. steve: but you asked him and he did not answer, all right, more coming up in about half an hour and brand-new details about the illegal immigrant charged many murder of mollie tibbetts. let your perfect drive come together during the final days of the lincoln summer invitation event get 0% apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus one thousand dollars bonus cash. oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (vo) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? 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best deal on the right hotel for you. dates, deals, done! tripadvisor. visit tripadvisor.com ainsley: president trump calling our immigration laws pathetic as illegal immigrant accuse offed killing mollie tibbetts makes court appearance. steve: now trying to figure out details and timeline. brian: former hock side detective ted williams has been following the case from the get-go, he joins us from des moines, iowa. >> i got a chance that mollie was last seen jogging. they were able to look at video footage from various residents in this neighborhood. one of those homes where the video footage that span this entire area. now here is what we know that on july the 18th mollie tibbett jogging on eastern des moines street being followed according to law enforcement officers by a stalker christian rivera. mollie came into this area where i'm here now and then made a left turn here on boundary street and jogged in this area, stalked by christian rivera, law enforcement informed us that mollie took a jog on 385 and somewhere up 385 avenue that she was abducted by christian rivera. and, guys, the investigation continues. steve: it does, indeed, it's haunting to see the street where she was alive. ainsley: it's a neighborhood. i was picturing out -- steve: corn fields for miles and miles, out in the middle of nowhere. that's broad daylight and it's a neighborhood, houses around. >> yeah, and that's what makes it very complicated for law enforcement because you would think that a stalker would having seen all the houses would not want to attack somebody in broad daylight but this stalker did. steve: luckily somebody had surveillance camera and that cracked the case. thank you very much from des moines. >> my pleasure. steve: more of ainsley's exclusive interview with the president coming up. a disaster declaration, the hurricane is so big that it can be seen from space, look at that. take a look at this incredible video showing a weather plane flying directly in category 4 storm with winds up to 145 miles per hour. today republican congressman duncan hunter and wife will face judge after being indicted on fraud charges, the california representative calls it a witch hunt and claims our justice system is politically motivated. the couple is accused of using $250,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses and covering it up. he will speak exclusively with more that he mccallum tonight. brian. brian: he hit the road last week and may never come back to the studio. ainsley: todd piro looking at fun traveling across the country. steve: last week he went to dollywood and now from atlantic city, new jersey. hey, trish -- todd. >> good morning, first let's begin, this is what we took over the thunderbirds here in atlantic city, it's a great rv, it really is, comforts of home, what makes it is it makes easy to drive. f16 fighting falcon, i was fortunate enough to be passenger under amazing guidance and piloting of brandon, it was the experience of a lifetime, check it out. time to take the road trip from the ground to the sky. that was pretty cool. maybe i can fly with them. >> the thunderbirds represents 660,000 active duty guardsman. >> why do you do trips? >> to recruit, retain and inspire. we cover across america representing the amazing things the air force is doing every day. you will get an opportunity not many people get a chance to do, strap in f-16 and going into the ride of your life. how are you feeling today. >> a little height headed. dollywood roller coaster. i keep hearing this is athletic event. >> do you think i'm ready? >> you are going to crush it. >> they say you can't pick your call sign. that's thunderbird media. this probably works. >> ready to go? >> ready as aisle -- i'll ever be. >> how cool is that? >> that's awesome. >> it's goo -- go time. ♪ ♪ >> all right, let's go. >> all right. >> how are you doing back there? >> so smooth. >> go to the left. >> here we go. nice and easy. all right. are you ready to fly the f16? >> oh, no. what do i do? >> all the way left. further. pull back. pull back further. there you go. all right. upside down. are you ready? that was amazing. >> we pulled over. ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> todd, welcome back to earth here. >> it's an experience that i will never forget. i'm speechless and that is rare. all right, guys, check out this flag, you can see i have one in my hand. you can see in cockpit. the flags fly on every mission including the real ones where ordinance ie bombs. >> no bombs were dropped. represents not only 130 brave and women who do thunderbird air force, but the brave men and women, more than 130 strong who defend our freedom from the skies, guys, i can't put into words enough this was one of the most amazing things i've ever done in my life and i thank air force for this opportunity. steve: job well done, top gun todd piro, if you like more information visit fox foxnews.com/roadtrip. ainsley: i like that you shook their hands to thank them. [laughter] >> we are going to st. agustin, hopefully it's more chill. steve: next stop is florida. thank you. coming up. ainsley: we have more of exclusive interview with the president. here is a little clip. 76 days away from midterms, hard to believe if democrats take back power, do you believe they will try to impeach you, his answer coming up next. .. so chances are, you've seen us around the house. or... around the yard. on the shelf... or even... out in the field. your mom knew she could always count on us... and your grandma did too. because for over 150 years, we've been right by your side. advancing the health of the people, plants and pets you love. so, from all of us at bayer... thank you for trusting in us. then... and now. ♪ i was born free ♪ i was born free ♪ >> attribute to the female lion that was born free also. i don't think kid rock was singing about that. >> your think of born free. >> they raised the tiger in captivity and we never see him again. >> soft from brian kill meet. >> what a big day news wise yesterday was and what a big day for fox and friends. >> the president agreed to sit down in an exclusive interview. we went to the white house to ask some questions. you have seen it in different shots. we are showing you everything he said and you will hear his response to abca21 being killed by the illegal alien and talk about ice, deporting the nazi prison guard and will he be impeached if the democrats win, listen to this. >> another american killed by an illegal alien adding fuel to the already controversial immigration subject you have been outspoken about. what do you say to those who disagree with your immigration plans? >> molly is a beautiful young girl, i watched the father, he kept saying, i doubted it was going to happen, she's coming back, she just left but she's coming back. is a beautiful thing in a way, it is hoped but now there is no hope. she was killed by a horrible person who came from mexico, illegally here, found by ice, our great ice, who is abused by the democrats and the left and without them we might not be sitting here so comfortably right now. i just think it is sad that it has already started. spent $3.2 billion, asking for $5 billion for this year's funding, the wall is going up. i would like to build it even faster but dealing with the democrats is very tough, the immigration laws are horrible, we are doing an incredible job, record-breaking job, we have bad laws. you can do good but you could do a lot better if you had good laws. they will all get changed but we have to elect more republicans. >> the nazi guard living in new york, officials deported him. why was that so important? >> i have a lot of jewish friends who said to me about this man, i grew up in queens, that is where i grew up and he was a man, not just a prison guard but supervise the killing of many jews. he has lived here for decades and walks the streets, i walk the same streets. people came up to me. they tell me about this nazi who lived in queens and walks the street like he owns the place, he is 95 years old and the obama administration was unable to pull it off and the bush administration was unable to pull it off. democrat assemblyman from new york, heavy democrat, a guy who never heard of a republican. he was giving me such praise. he was so nice. he said thank you, mister president, thank you. it was so nice to watch because of the fact he is a democrat, he said i don't care whether it is republican or democrat, what he did is something nobody else was able to do. i have done many things like that. they don't get reported. they don't get reported. what we are doing for healthcare is incredible. we are keeping the remnants of obamacare, we mostly got it killed, got rid of the individual mandate but the remnants of obamacare, the increase is much less than people thought because of us. we are getting rid of it and putting in new healthcare which is a beautiful thing. >> 76 days from the midterms, hard to believe. of democrats take back our you believe they will try to impeach you? >> i guess it is something like high crimes and all. i don't know how you can impeach somebody who has done a great job. if i ever got impeached i think the market would crash. i think everybody would be very poor because without this you would see numbers you wouldn't believe if hillary clinton got elected instead of 4.1, each point is 31/$2 trillion. when i took it over it was at one and it was going to be down, it was going down. i got rid of regulations, the tax cut was a tremendous thing and even before the tax cut right from the first day i got rid of regulations, 48,000 jobs, did a lot of things. had hillary in the democrats gotten in, had she been president you would have had negative growth. we picked up $10 trillion, china has gone down $15 trillion. when i came in china was a dominant force. now they like me very much. i get along great with abca1. we can no longer give you $500 billion a year on bad trade deals and you see what happened for the last 90 days and the reason i waited is i wanted china's help. otherwise i would've done it sooner. china has been a big help and i hope they continue to be but i have to get going on trade but last year china -- we had a deficit with china, $517 billion, not going to happen anymore. >> the question about impeachment is interesting because we heard from people in washington dc that some legal experts, any legal peril regarding michael cohen claims but the real peril is impeachment and going closer to the midterms look for republicans to save the democrats win they will try to impeach him and look at the success the administration had, do you want this to happen, that will be there argument. >> don't you can impeach the become he said, who has done a great job. in the market will crash. >> michael cohen speaking to authorities about his foundation, clearly someone is trying to circle the wagons, circle the president, hopefully his legal team is up for the battle. >> 19 minutes before the top of the hour. dana lash is up next and you know about political analysis but he condition mean burger too. we are cooking with the bossi family straight ahead. >> the boston burger. ♪ is back with some headlines, police releasing new surveillance video showing the moment someone fires a gun at a luxury high-rise on midtown manhattan, the nypd looking for man and woman seen in that area of the time of the shooting and shots fired from across the east river into the 50 story building, nobody was hurt. you could call this finger licking bad. border patrol agents finding a drug smuggling tunnel underneath an old kfc restaurant in arizona. the chain's former owner used a rope to pool meth, cocaine and fentanyl into the us. officers choosing $1 million in drugs. >> outrage grows over an illegal immigrant charged in the murder of mollie tibbetts, elizabeth warren says the real crime is family separation. >> this is hard not only for the family but for the people in her community, people throughout iowa. one of the things we have to remember is we need immigration system that was effective and focuses on their real problems. separating babies from others does not make the country safe? >> is the time individuals who have been ripped from their family's arms, jamil shaw junior comes to mind, just what you picture when you think of an all-american teenager ripped from his parents arms and his mother was active-duty because of someone who is an illegal alien and i could go on and say a lot of families, certain people in power enforced immigration laws. >> he entered the united states as a minor, not in the united states illegally, he has daca status, he didn't ever apply for that. >> i don't think this was the first time a lawyer served the truth, it was working legally because he checked through e-verify even though was allegedly fraudulently obtained documents to do so but people that own the farm that employed him said they didn't run e-verify, they just used social security to make sure the documents checked out which seems a little weird. he wasn't working here legally, dhs and border security, every alphabet soup agency had no record of him. >> they did not have e-verify and he used the wrong name, doesn't am i can innocent guy making his way up in america and no one is buying that he blacked out during the situation. if you look at his background i'm sure this is not the first transgression. >> i agree with you. we need to stop giving -- this is what it feels like to me and a lot of people all over the country. to us, we see individuals who enter the country illegally, democrats want to conflate lawful immigration with those who enter illegally. it feels like they are completing the issue, and give some sort of bizarre diplomatic immunity to people who enter the country illegally. why can't they be held at work for their crimes. the first time is entering the country illegally. >> 12 minutes before the top of the hour. >> you know david bossi, he condition a political analysis but did you know he can make a mean burger on the grill. we are cooking with the bossi family in the plaza coming up next. ♪ all while enhancing the view. after thirty years, we're still independently owned and the freethinking hawaiian spirit that first inspired us, is still a part of everything we do. our polarizedplus2 lenses not only protect eyes from harmful rays, they also make colors more vivid and contrast crisper. try on a pair and see for yourself. the view's better from here. that skills like teamwork, attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. like the ones we teach here, every day. thanks for coming down. >> thank for having us, excited to be here. >> your oldest child decided not to be on tv. >> she is busy today so couldn't do it. 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with the united states is down almost 16 percent the trade war is making its mark on the world's 2 biggest economies and it's unclear if there's an end in sight a day after beijing announced an agreement between the 2 governments to roll back tariffs or hoards of backpedaling from washington. u.s. firms are among the thousands of companies taking part at the china trade expo they're hoping to keep doing good business in the country despite the trade dispute . the statement this week from the ministry of commerce in beijing is likely to have raised their spirits. of. course you don't go over the past 2 weeks the chief trade negotiators of the 2 sides had serious and constructive discussions on how to resolve their respective core issues and agreed to cancel the other tariffs in stages. for shelter i don't question. for their part the united states confirmed the statement the trade conflict has hit growth slowed investment and continues to weigh in the global economy the international monetary fund welcome signs of deescalation we welcome any steps to deescalate the trade tensions and to rule back recent trade measures which you just mentioned and particularly if they can provide a path towards a comprehensive and lasting agreement so this is the 1st step towards a co-operative future no sooner had hope broken out than doubts began to set in again insiders say there is already opposition building within the white house to removing the tariffs. market analyst franco berridge joins us from london now let's talk about bad communication to start with something we've got used to with a trump administration but something that the chinese is seeming to struggle with. yeah that's right i think the root of the problem is the fact that policy at the white house has been made alternately directly by the president often with high the no input or even contradictory import from various advises to the result of this is that as we've heard this week for example with could lose recent statements the senior advisers like to add a lot of contingency into the communications they put out and even to say a deal is being reached always make it contingent on final approval from the president and as you said you know chris sort of a messy communications environment and you can see financial markets reacting to that was 1st sort of sentiment driven often on the room or even one little true woods and you'll see quickly a risk on risk off response in fixed income equities and foreign exchange what then is it going to take to clear all this uncertainty. i think is 2 questions is firstly what's going to take to get this phase one deal done and then secondly the real question is what's it going to take to clear the uncertainty that's currently slowing global growth firstly it looks like there is a lot of action on both in washington and beijing to get the phase one deal done and that simply so that the worst and most damaging tariffs can be removed because as we've seen from the white house's behavior they know that the latest round of tariffs will hurt the u.s. economy they want them gone so they try to strike that phase well deal but the real question is will we then see global growth improve we've seen investment in particular trucked off globally and now it's even happening in the united states with the economy for boston until recently the businesses are no longer investing and the problem is that uncertainty in and of itself slows growth so even the phase one deal is done the risk of for the escalation or indeed miscalculation from either side may continue to hamper global growth for some time and just briefly then there is also the question of further blowups. yeah of course and i think miscalculation is the key thing to have because we know the chinese authorities would have reached the same conclusions that any observer can reach the viewer the ministry of the us administration is thinking of the political costs of the trade war heading into the 2020 election so the risk is that the chinese side actually tend to overreach in terms of the concessions that they expect and then in the interest of saving face or perhaps in another sort of 4 am to if it don't trouble call the whole thing off as to be fair has happened before this year so there is a real risk of that blow up and we're seeing that already effect and weigh on investor i'm a follower on twitter i won't miss it rather berridge thank you very much for joining. us well countries around the world it is gusting how to best implement 5 g. technology china is a step ahead of the ministry of science and technology has officially started researching $26.00 g. telecommunications technology a group of experts from universities research institutes and data prizes is responsible for developing the standard 6 g. could be available for 2030 owners. german exports rebounded more than forecast in september elaine fears that europe's biggest economy could stumble into our position the german statistics office says seasonally adjusted its 40 increased by one and a half percent of the month the biggest increase in slave ever 2017 data published earlier this week painted a mixed picture of the industrial sector with a panel of economists a buzzing the government saying germany's long term upswing and come to an end. let's go live to frankfurt to chelsea to lanie josie alledge a surprise is this used up new doesn't it. it's certainly a surprise and certainly relief given all of the really gloomy data that's been coming out of germany over the past several months looking into the room to the details of the report sort of the hardest hit areas of german of the german economy seem to have rebounded so trade to the u.k. was a lot higher trade to the u.s. was a lot higher there was a continued decline in exports to china but i think seeing the increases in exports to china or to the u.s. and the u.k. was definitely a bright spot also there was an increase in exports to be to the end that auto sector as well which has been hit very hard over the past several months i think now there's that potential that germany could actually avoid a technical recession because of how strong this data was there had been a pretty much consensus here that germany was going to fall into recession after seeing growth the kind of the 2nd quarter looks like they may actually be able to avoid that now just use noise to finish the week going to good use but tell me is this going to be just a blip. it certainly could be this data doesn't really fit with the past few months of trade data that we've we've gotten out of germany so it certainly could be a one off anomaly it also comes as there's been a lot of kind of confusing mixed data out of out of germany as you mentioned there was and just real production data earlier this week that was quite negative in that there was also industrial order data that was quite good so it's hard to tell what the signal is from all of these mixed reports but even if even if this is part of a trend germany's economy is still it is still slowing so it's not necessarily you know. glowing economic time for germany shows utility for us with the you know this is from frankfurt thank you. now to some of the other business stories making news the world's wealthiest were a little less rich last year billionaires wealth fell by $388000000000.00 globally 8 and a half trillion dollars were before by u.b.s. and people you say it was a shop decline in china the 2nd biggest home from billionaires to the united states . of tons a cabin crew is striking for a 2nd day of a payday most of the airlines flights from germany have been canceled for friday kerry says there could be knock on effects for flights on saturday. well it was one night that changed europe the fall of the berlin wall 30 years ago it changed a lot for private business owners too who want widely accepted in east germany what they stood for went against communist party philosophy in our next report we made you know how to do tech who experienced all the ups and downs before and after the wall came crumbling down. this lady has been spinning in the dudek machine building factory for 30 years the company is located in the eastern part of berlin c.e.o. johann dudek has 35 employees he founded his company in former east germany in 1986 the government back then tolerated private companies because the economy needed so much help back then he did lots of jobs for the east german government but he soon realized that east germany was broke you should know how limited they had reached their limit and he couldn't go on like that or. i think that at one point in the stasi salt and sugar no matter what they tried the situation couldn't be helped. his office is full of souvenirs spanning 30 years after the fall of the berlin wall the east german businessman inexperienced in the way of capitalism was ripped off a few times in the beginning when he looks at this picture he remembers. we finished undelivered the orders but they only paid us half of what they owed us after the record. yohan dudek experienced all the risks that business men face now after years is finally paid back alone he took out and can now afford the good life the remnants of the berlin wall a just a tourist attraction the stays is not shedding any tears for east germany. we have blooming landscapes as cold promised us just not the same everywhere but imagine if he's germany went on for another 30 years there would have been nothing left but ruins. for the 73 year old dudek there's one more assignment finding a successor. part of the pop install point time has unveiled its christmas with the displays there's a lot to look at motorized animals in zany scenes everything from turkeys making music and dancing in the kitchen to a giant hand spraying itself with her feet and mice trying to escape from the department store it took 650 hours to create a day for a sions 10000000 people are set to see the christmas displays but someone's getting excited about it and want to know to get even more excited the luxury tycoon. a lot more people into the store. thought before we go china is imposing a curfew on its under-age game as it was under the age of 18 and now prohibited from playing online games from 10 pm in the evening until 8 am in the regulations or restrict the amount of time and money minus can spend on online games gaming companies and platforms are also required to enforce the regulations chinese president xi jinping has criticised video games as being harmful to children. that lot of parents will be thanking them for that busting business with the. eco india a. how can a country's economy grow harmony its people and the violent when there are do look at the bigger picture india a country that faces many challenges. and those people are striving to create a sustainable future clever projects from europe and to india a. 30 minute w. . the sustainable 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i mean for us all and let's do business china's foreign trade continue to fall in october exports drop slightly imports plunged trade with the united states is down almost 16 percent the trade war is making its mark on the world's 2 biggest economies and it's unclear if there's an end in sight a day after beijing announced an agreement between the 2 governments to roll back tariffs there are reports of backpedaling from washington. u.s. firms are among the thousands of companies taking part at the china trade expo they're hoping to keep doing good business in the country despite the trade dispute . the statement this week from the ministry of commerce in beijing is likely to have raised their spirits. over the past 2 weeks the chief trade negotiators of the 2 sides had serious and constructive discussions on how to resolve their respective core issues and agreed to cancel the other tariffs in stages. so he seemed. shocked i don't question. for their part the united states confirmed the statement the trade conflict has hit growth slowed investment and continues to weigh in the global economy the international monetary fund welcome signs of deescalation we welcome any step to deescalate the tree tensions and to rule back recent trade measures which you just mentioned and particularly if they can provide a path towards a comprehensive and lasting agreement so is this the 1st step towards a co-operative future no sooner had hoped broken out than doubts began to set in again insiders say there's already opposition building within the white house to removing the tariffs. market analyst franco berridge joins us from london now let's talk about bad communication to start with something we've got used to with a trump administration but something that the chinese is seeming to struggle with. yeah that's right i think the root of the problem is the fact that policy at the white house has been made alternately directly by the president often with high the no input or even contradicting import from various advisors so the result of this is that as we've heard this week for example with could lose recent statements the senior advisers like to add a lot of contingency into the communications they put out and even to say a deal has been reached always make it contingent on final approval from the president and as you said you know chris sort of a messy communications environment and you can see financial markets reacting to that you know it's very sort of sentiment driven often on room or even one little true woods and you'll see quickly a risk on risk off response in fixed income equities and foreign exchange what then is it going to take to clear all this uncertainty i think is 2 questions is firstly what's going to take to get us face one deal done and then secondly the real question is what's it going to take to clear the uncertainty that's currently slowing global growth firstly it looks like there is a lot of action both in washington and beijing to get the phase one deal done and that simply so that the worst and most damaging tariffs can be removed because as we've seen from the white house is behavior they know that the latest round of tariffs will hurt the u.s. economy they want them gone so there's a strike at phase one deal but the real question is will we didn't see global growth improve we've seen investment in particular trucked off globally and now it's even happening in the united states with the economy's robust and szell recently to businesses are no longer investing and the problem is that uncertainty in and of itself slows growth so even the phase one deal is done the risk of for the escalation or indeed miscalculation from by the side may continue to hamper global growth for some time and just briefly then there is also the question of further blowups. of course and i think miscalculation is the keeping him because we know the chinese authorities will have reached the same conclusions that any observer can reach the viewer ministry of the us administration is thinking of the political costs of the trade war heading into the 2020 election so the risk is that the chinese side actually tend to overreach in terms of the concessions that they expect and then in the interest of saving face or perhaps in another sort of 4 am to if it don't trouble call the whole thing off is to be fair has happened before this year so there is a real risk of that blow up and we're seeing that already a fair way on investment i'm a follower on twitter i won't miss it rather berridge thank you very much for joining. while countries around the world it is gusting how to best implement 5 g. technology china is a step ahead of the ministry of science and technology has officially started researching $26.00 g. telecommunications technology a group of experts from universities research institutes and it apprises is responsible for developing the standard 6 g. could be available from 2030 on was. german exports rebounded more than forecast in september elaine fears that europe's biggest economy could stumble into our recession the german statistics office says seasonally adjusted its 40 increase by one and a half percent of the month the biggest increase instead of a 27 data published earlier this week painted a mixed picture of the industrial sector with a panel of economists are buzzing the government saying germany's long term upswing and come to an end. let's go live to frankfurt to chelsea delaney josie alledge of a surprise is this used up new down to. it's certainly a surprise and certainly relief given all of the really gloomy data that's been coming out of germany over the past several months looking into the route to the details of the report sort of the hardest hit areas of german of the german economy seem to have rebounded so trade to the u.k. was a lot higher trade to the u.s. was a lot higher there was a continued decline in exports to china but i think seeing increases in exports to china or to the u.s. and the u.k. was definitely a bright spot also there was an increase in exports to be to the end that autos that sector as well which has been hit very hard over the past several months i think now there's the potential that germany could actually avoid a technical recession because of how strong this data was there had been a pretty much consensus here that germany was going to fall into recession after seeing growth the kind in the 2nd quarter looks like they may actually be able to avoid that now. if it is the weak going to good use but still weak is this going to be just a blip it certainly could be this david doesn't really fit with the past few months of trade data that we've gotten out of germany so it certainly could be a one off anomaly it also comes as there's been a lot of kind of confusing mixed data out of out of germany as you mentioned there was and just real production data earlier this week that was quite negative in the that there was also industrial order data that was quite good so it's hard to tell what the signal is from all of these mixed reports but even if you even if this is part of a trend germany's economy is still it is still slowing so it's not necessarily you know. glowing economic time for germany shows you really need for us with the you know this is from frankfurt thank you. now to some of the other business stories making news the world's wealthiest were a little less rich last year billionaires well fell by $388000000000.00 globally to 8 and a half 1000000000 a political report by u.b.s. and people who say it was a shock to klein in china the 2nd biggest home for billionaires to the united states. of tons a cabin crew is striking for a 2nd day over pay most of the airlines flights from germany have been canceled for friday kerry says there could be knock on effects for flights on saturday. for that was one night that changed europe the fall of the berlin wall 30 years ago it changed a lot for private business owners too who what widely accepted in east germany what they stood for went against communist party philosophy you know next report we made you'll have to check who experienced all the ups and downs before and after the wall came crumbling down. this lady has been spinning in the dudek machine building factory for 30 years the company is located in the eastern part of berlin c.e.o. johann dudek has 35 employees. he founded his company in former east germany in 1986 the government back then tolerated private companies because the economy needed so much help back then you 100 it did lots of jobs for the east german government but he soon realized that east germany was broke. through no limit they had reached their limit and record and go on like that or. i think that at one point in the stasi salt and sugar no matter what they tried the situation couldn't be helped. his office is full of souvenirs spanning 30 years after the fall of the berlin wall the east german businessman inexperienced in the way of capitalism was ripped off a few times in the beginning when he looks at this picture he remembers. we finished undelivered the orders but they only paid us half of what they owed us after $300.00. johan dudek experienced all the risks that business men face now after years is finally paid back alone he took out and can now afford the good life the remnants of the berlin wall a just a tourist attraction the stays is not shedding any tears for east germany. we have blooming landscapes as cold promised us just not the same everywhere but imagine if these germany went on for another 30 years ago there would have been nothing left but ruins. for the 73 year old dude there's one more assignment finding a successor. powers the pop install poynton has unveiled its christmas winter displays there's a lot to look at motorized animals in zanies scenes everything from turkeys making music and dancing in the kitchen to a giant hand spraying itself with a few and mice trying to escape from the department store it took 650 hours to create a decoration 10000000 people a set say the christmas displays but someone's getting excited about it and want an old could get even more excited the luxury tycoon. a lot more people into his still . and before we go china is imposing a curfew on its under-age that's it was under the age of 18 and now prohibited from playing online games from 10 pm in the evening until 8 am in the regulations or restrict the amount of time and money minus can spend on online games gaming companies and platforms are also required to enforce the english regulations chinese president xi jinping has criticised video games as being harmful to children. that a lot of parents will be thanking them for that nice doing business with it. ico. how can a country's economy grow and harmony 6 people plant when there are doers look at the bigger picture india a country that faces many challenges and issues people are striving to create a 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