good enough for rupert murdoch s local fox channel. that is tonight s last word, the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, the georgia grand jury report on the trump investigation. what it says about witnesses possibly lying under oath. what it could mean for the former presidents allies. then, president biden addresses those unidentified objects shot down over north america, the questions remain about dealing with this in the future. kevin mccarthy heads to the u.s. mexico border. democrats call it theater, while the real need for real solutions remain. the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night. good evening i m alicia menendez in for stephanie ruhle. we begin with new revelations from a special grand jury s investigation into election interference by donald trump and his allies in georgia. fulton county district attorney, fani willis, launched this criminal inquiry two years ago. the grand jury heard from 75 witnesses through mountains of data for
what it says about witnesses possibly lying under oath. what it could mean for the former presidents allies. then, president biden addresses those unidentified objects shot down over north america, the questions remain about dealing with this in the future. kevin mccarthy heads to the u. s. mexico border. democrats call it theater, while the real need for real solutions remain. the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night. good evening i m alicia menendez in for stephanie ruhle. we begin with new revelations from a special grand jury s investigation into election interference by donald trump and his allies in georgia. fulton county district attorney, fani willis, launched this criminal inquiry two years ago. the grand jury heard from 75 witnesses through mountains of data for eight months. today, three sections of the panels final report remained public. one of the keys findings was that perjury may have been committed by one or more of the witnesses. the report recomme
of these witnesses, that they would not have had had the witnesses told the truth. every time i had to deal with a witness that i suspected might lie in the grand jury, i gave them some version of the same spiel, i said look, if you go in, you swear to tell the truth, and you lie to the grand jury, i can promise you i will ask the grand jury to consider indicting you for the crimes of perjury, if you lie about a material matter, that is something of relevance to the grand jury s investigation, i will ask them to consider indicting you for obstruction of justice. for obstructing the grand jury probe. i will ask them to consider indicting you as an accessory after the fact, because your lies will have the effect of helping the target of the investigation get away with his crimes. and in my experience, alicia, there are generally three reasons witnesses lie before the grand jury.
lie in the grand jury, i gave them some version of the same spiel, i said look, if you go in, you swear to tell the truth, and you lie to the grand jury, i can promise you i will ask the grand jury to consider indicting you for the crimes of perjury, if you lie about a material matter, that is something of relevance to the grand jury s investigation, i will ask them to consider indicting you for obstruction of justice. for obstructing the grand jury probe. i will ask them to consider indicting you as an accessory after the fact, because your lies will have the effect of helping the target of the investigation get away with his crimes. and in my experience, alicia, there are generally three reasons witnesses lie before the grand jury. they re either loyal to the target of the investigation, in this case, donald trump they are fearful of the target of the investigation, or they are complicit in the crimes committed by the target of the investigation. so, what we know, 75 witnesses
right now is the first written on the record rebuke of trump s allegedly criminal conduct in new york, in his business, by the tom line prosecutor, who has been working this very case for years. that prosecutor got the tax returns, ran the grand jury probe, took what he calls damning evidence from many witnesses and concluded trump is guilty of numerous felony violations. the new york times obtained the prosecutor s letter, which came when he resigned a of the d.a. paused the case. the prosecutor writes the failure to indict trump is a grave failure of justice itself. that prosecutor clearly thought he was on some kind of path to charges under the previous d.a., cy vance, a d.a. who pursued some high profile cases, but was known to waffle quite frankly. if you watch this show, we reported last year that that d.a., cy vance, had already