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The loop. look, i have been down this road before. i worked for mr. nixon. i have seen how it works. this is the nixon look again minus all the foreign policy achievements. >> bill: when you know about corporations and government, because you have worked in both as you pointed out, and the deniability factor, this is important for people to understand. its not beyond comprehension that ms. ruemmler, mcdonough and all the presidents men and women in the white house decided, you know, we are not g...

The loop. look, i have been down this road before. i worked for mr. nixon. i have seen how it works. this is the nixon look again minus all the foreign policy achievements. >> bill: when you know about corporations and government, because you have worked in both as you pointed out, and the deniability factor, this is important for people to understand. its not beyond comprehension that ms. ruemmler, mcdonough and all the presidents men and women in the white house decided, you know, we are not g...

Defense university in washington, d.c., the president put forth that his administration is winning the war on terror. although, of course, mr. obam does not use that phrase the war on terror. in the address the president explained how the drone attacks are legal and effective. talking points agrees he once again called for the closing of the prison at guantanamo bay. exactly how and where tried in the u.s. before agreeing with that president talked about increasing security for diplomats abroad ...

>> theres perjury and thats a crime. >> neil: charles payne, if we can forward this a bit. my big thing is weve gone from an administration that was very hands on, detail oriented to hands off and saying i know nothing, and so after one crisis after another, the only defense is ignorance. the only defense is i was out of the loop. that alone raises questions on so many different scandals that the best defense you have is that you didnt know what was going on? i think that falls into this idea of...

Justice, those are crimes. >> neil: my big thing is, we gone from an administration that was very hands on, to hands off. i know nothing. after one crisis after another. the only defense is ignorance, i was out of the loop. that alone raises questions on so many different scandals that the best defense you have is that you didnt know what was going on. i think that falls into this idea of competence in the white house and competence in our leadership. that will get to be an exacting problem. a...

>> these are cover your butt changes. i find the interesting thing is the following. when the u.s. has an ambassador and his embassy personnel under siege, you dont see the presence of the chief of staff or the national security advisor in e-mails? it is unbelievable to me that either this president and his senior staff members, the national security advisor and the chief of staff were kept out of the loop, and that may be even worse than they were in the loop. the fact that this is all going on...

>> these are cover your butt changes. i find the interesting thing is the following. when the u.s. has an ambassador and his embassy personnel under siege, you dont see the presence of the chief of staff or the national security advisor in e-mails? it is unbelievable to me that either this president and his senior staff members, the national security advisor and the chief of staff were kept out of the loop, and that may be even worse than they were in the loop. the fact that this is all going on...

Secretary, could be assistant secretaries. theres other layers of leadership. >> yeah, maybe. but the thing is were in a situation where this is occupying you would think almost every moment of concern. its a huge disaster. an ambassador has been killed. you have hillary clinton on the phone at 2:00 a.m. with greg hicks over in libya. so you have to wonder that somehow shes no longer involved in the loop with her spokesman who is talking about how to -- the political judgments of the talking poi...

Let the world know youre not just p, you are pissed. the problem with being hip is you think its not hip to get hot. heres the flip side of cool. it risks making you look clueless which of course is not cool. maybe aloof, maybe distant, maybe out of it, but definitely not on top of it. definitely not cool. certainly not when youre losing mainstream media who used to give you a pass but now going for your jugular. any of the bizarre activity out of the administration shows no reason. treason mayb...

Directly with the national security staff. those consultations, we dont know who the members were, what the outcome was. for those consultations we have at this hour no documents at all. so are there other sets? quite possibly. >> greta: reporting earlier, you talked about -- maybe it was bret baier earlier in the evening -- talked about the -- jay carney had once referred to it as a style listenin stylistit the white house had done with the emails. now we find its profoundly more than that. was...