listen to what migration said. can the vice president s visit here stem the tide of immigration? i don t think the vice president to guatemala can stem the tide to the united states in the short term. if there is a chance, it would be in the long term. long term meaning? 10, 20 years. reporter: the pied piper lure of children to the united states is not only one of better life and some food, it is the fact that there has been not just decades but generations of poverty and misery. and so parents, it seems rather irresponsible to us, but here i ve been told by those that are aware, it s not irresponsible but, rather, it is the responsible thing to do from their point of view, to let their children try to get to the united states, alex. it s just heartbreaking. when you think about that.
happen. i would like to put it out there, he s always been in your face about it anyway, the he called himself the pied piper. the pied piper, if you know anything about families. he is known for that. there are descriptions from sara sidner who we ll get back in a moment that really kind of mirror what you describe in the documentary having to call him daddy, and not speaking to other people. yes. tell us about you said you were involved with r. kelly and another girl who was 14. but you didn t know she was 14 at that time? no, i was 17, he told me she was 16. but you expect he knew how old she was? i mean, yeah, it was supposed to have been his family member. but i didn t know at that time, he told me it was his neighbor who was 16, and i was 17. he said what he needed to say to
being so brave and the other survivors and families that are still fighting because i think now there is so much in the public space, you can t turn a blind eye to it. i think they will do their due diligence to make sure this doesn t happen. he kind of puts himself out there. he calls himself the pied piper. if you know about the book, the pied piper lures children away from their families. he is doing that. my book surviving the pied piper gets in depth in that. sara sidner really mirror what you describe in the documentary of having to call him daddy, not speaking to other people. tell us about you said you were involved with r. kelly.
compares to the 2002 charges, 2008 trial, does it feel different? to me it does. i didn t follow the 2002 trial in depth but i will be following now because i have lisa to thank for being so brave and other survivors and families fighting to get their daughters back. i think now there s so much, like i was saying, in the public s face, you can t turn a blind eye to it. i believe they re going to do due diligence, make sure this doesn t continue to happen. i would like to put out that he s always kind of been in your face about it anyway. calls himself the pied piper. the pied piper if you know anything about the book, the pied piper lures children away from their families. he is known for doing that. my book is surviving the pied piper, more in depth on that. there were descriptions from sara sidner who we ll get back to in a moment that really kind of mirror what you described in the documentary of having to
for the tea party. its members had tried to use the deadline as leverage. now they say the battle is not bc s jeff bellamy. ttle is not reporter: listening to senator ted cruz, you would think he won the war. saw the house of representatives take a courageous stand listening to to see the h engage in a profile in courage. reporter: cruz, the pied piper of congress s party contention has no regrets about the government coming to a screeching halt in an attempt to kill th president s health care law. continue until collectively the american people can make d.c. listen. reporter: a risky move. 74% of americans disapprove of how republicans handle the shutdown. cruz s own hometown paper, the houston chronicle, which endorsed him last year as a thoughtful, energetic shooting