border for decades. if you remember when obama was president, a plane landed with hundreds of children on it. people remember that, those children were treated, separated from their families, this is something that has been going on for a long time. i will say it again, it is a systematic issue. i m not attacking dhs, is a process, and their system has to change. the system doesn t change, we will keep running into the same problem. lisa: my issue is not the caravans have been going on, the issue is the downplaying of the fact there can be bad people in the mix. that was the point i was making. thank you both for joining me tonight, i really appreciate it. thank you. thank you. thank you for having me. lisa: president trump makes a surprise visit to troops in iraq and doubles down on the pledge to defeat isis. why is the liberal media: we trip a failure? the debate after the break. stay with us.