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audio clip that's played with a journalist who is doing an interview with fauci. >> when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological -- and they get vaccinated. >> thank you. are all objections to covid vaccinations ideological [bleep]? >> no, they aren't and that's not what i was referring to. >> in reference to making it hard for people to get education, traveling, working, i would say it very much was in context. i take great offense to this. >> bill: i don't know how you heard that. i want to go back to the opening line there. fauci says when you make it difficult for people in their lives, there is no question in hindsight, this was a difficult way to live for everyone. how did you hear that? >> same as you did, bill. there is no doubt about it. not only that, what he wanted
you support higher taxes for people earning £29,000 a year in scotland — for example, nurses — but not higher taxes, windfall taxes, on the oil and gas giants making record profits. are you personally, and the snp, in favour of granting new oil and gas licences? yes or no? i'm in favour of there being a climate compatibility test... why can't you just give a straight answer? - i think what we�*ve just seen here is an example of two parties that have been in power for far too long. the snp and labour will be key rivals at this election. this is good for scotland, john! you cannot escape the fact that you've signed up to the tories' fiscal agenda. you have said you're desperate - to get rid of this tory government, i but all you've done in this electionl campaign is attack the labour party. douglas ross admitted the preparation for liz truss�* mini budget wasn�*t there. and that hadn't been done, and i hold my hands up — i assumed that had been done. the greens called their exclusion from this event outrageous. stv said they were comfortable with their decision. there�*ll be more arguments, more
care about the republican party. in fact, it's one of the reasons he's had so much staying power atop the republican party, because he reflects the contempt that so many republican voters, particularly base voters, have for the party in the first place. it's something that other republicans never emulate because they always think about the health of the party writ large and donald trump doesn't. he told me when i interviewed him for "in trump's shadow," he said, yeah, he was angry about the results in georgia, so hi he tanked the senate races there. jeff flake would still be a senator from arizona today if donald trump hadn't chased him out of the party and out of politics ahead of the 2018 midterm elections. there would be one more republican seat in the senate that would have mattered. so this is par for the course for trump's leadership of the party, such that it is. now, i would point out, the rnc was never and is never going to spend any money in deep blue maryland. the national senatorial committee may or may not.
both parties are trying to persuade you that they'd be better at handling the country's money. but the most important figures aren't necessarily these ones, they're the ones we'll get in the manifestos later this month when we'll scrutinise it all again. one other thing i wanted to touch on quickly, a question that might come up tonight — is the economy moving in the right direction? rishi sunak wants to persuade you yes. keir starmer wants you to be more sceptical. let's look at two measures of this. one — here — inflation, because it's true to say that inflation has gone down significantly since rishi sunak became prime minister and he will want some of the credit for it. labour will question how much you feel it in your pocket. another way of looking at where the economy is heading is economic growth, because it's true to say at the start of 2024, there was economic growth — economic growth of 0.6%. but that was after the uk officially entered a recession at the end of last year.
very low unemployment, we have skills shortages and a shortage of people in certain areas especially like social care, and if we did not have brexit which was imposed on scotland by westminster, we could have had more free movement of individuals coming into the scottish economy, contributing to society and fuelling economic growth, and this is another example of the most opportunities inflicted on us by westminster this will only be exacerbated by what the labour party and the conservatives are saying about migration.— about migration. niger -- nigel farate about migration. niger -- nigel farage would — about migration. niger -- nigel farage would say, _ about migration. niger -- nigel farage would say, why - about migration. niger -- nigel farage would say, why not i about migration. niger -- nigel farage would say, why not take j about migration. niger -- nigel- farage would say, why not take the people _ farage would say, why not take the people who — farage would say, why not take the people who are _ farage would say, why not take the people who are coming _ farage would say, why not take the people who are coming over- farage would say, why not take the people who are coming over on i farage would say, why not take the people who are coming over on the | people who are coming over on the boats? _ people who are coming over on the boats? uk— people who are coming over on the boats? ,., ., , ., ,, ., boats? uk government has taken a hostile approach _ boats? uk government has taken a hostile approach and _ boats? uk government has taken a hostile approach and there - boats? uk government has taken a hostile approach and there is i boats? uk government has taken a hostile approach and there is no i hostile approach and there is no credible rate for people to undertake migration towards uk. there has to be a managed approach to migration and i think we have got to migration and i think we have got to be welcoming to people because we have low unemployment and shortage of people to undertake essential
and the problem with what anas has set out is that there is a very direct damage going to be done to the oil and gas sector as a consequence of the tax plans that he's put forward, and which the conservatives have put into place. just to make this clear, you support higher taxes for people earning £29,000 a year in scotland — for example, nurses — but not higher taxes, windfall taxes, on the oil and gas giants making record profits. are you personally, and the snp, in favour of granting _ new oil and gas licences? yes or no? i'm in favour of there being a climate compatibility test. why can't you just give a straight answer? - i think what we've just seen here is an example of two parties that have been in power for far too long. the snp and labour will be key rivals at this election. this is good for scotland, john! you cannot escape the fact that you've signed up to the tories' fiscal agenda. you have said you're desperate - to get rid of this tory government, i but all you've done in this electionl campaign is attack the labour party. douglas ross admitted
so 3.7 billion. we're saying that the tax cuts to the big banks, which the conservatives have given, should be reversed. that would raise £a.3 billion more than our policy. ——that would raise £a.3 billion — more than our policy. there are other aspects of it. and we think this is just an essential investment to save our nhs and to provide the care that people need. ed davey there. our political correspondent damian grammaticas is travelling with the lib dems today. you're seeing ed davey engaged in some flower arranging, first it was django towers. what is the political analogy, the symbolism with all of this —— jenga analogy, the symbolism with all of this ——jenga paris. the analogy, the symbolism with all of this -- jenga paris.— this -- jenga paris. the lib dems 'ust like this -- jenga paris. the lib dems just like to _ this -- jenga paris. the lib dems just like to surprise _ this -- jenga paris. the lib dems just like to surprise you, - just like to surprise you, basically. sir ed now engaging in
campaign thus far, if you more weeks to go until the ath ofjuly. if you plot out the map, we have seen quite a the visits here.— a the visits here. very north are seen as a _ a the visits here. very north are seen as a real _ a the visits here. very north are seen as a real bellwether i a the visits here. very north are seen as a real bellwether seats| a the visits here. very north are i seen as a real bellwether seats in terms _ seen as a real bellwether seats in terms of— seen as a real bellwether seats in terms of the national picture, whoever— terms of the national picture, whoever wins there tends to win at the general election —— verse michael— the general election —— verse michael debate has been conservatives with a tiny majority of 300, _ conservatives with a tiny majority of 300, so — conservatives with a tiny majority of 300, so rishi sunak has been there _ of 300, so rishi sunak has been there to — of 300, so rishi sunak has been there to talk up what people have done _ there to talk up what people have done in _ there to talk up what people have done in a — there to talk up what people have done in a bury with levelling up grants— done in a bury with levelling up grants there. so keir starmer was there _ grants there. so keir starmer was there yesterday, chose the fuser layer _ there yesterday, chose the fuser layer museum in bury north to launch his plans _ layer museum in bury north to launch his plans -- — layer museum in bury north to launch his plans. —— fusilier. rishi sunak has also— his plans. —— fusilier. rishi sunak has also been on the edge of macclesfield and tatton, those areas in which _ macclesfield and tatton, those areas in which previous elections it would be unheard—of that there would be a potential— be unheard—of that there would be a potential target. today sir ed davey, — potential target. today sir ed davey, the lib dem leader has been in stockport, building up a jenga
revenue streams? i think rishi sunak was quite effective with that and did better than probably people assumed he would do. i did better than probably people assumed he would do.- did better than probably people assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite _ assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite well, _ assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite well, but _ assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite well, but i - assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite well, but i do - assumed he would do. i think rishi sunak did quite well, but i do not l sunak did quite well, but i do not think— sunak did quite well, but i do not think you — sunak did quite well, but i do not think you won. i think it was quite bland. _ think you won. i think it was quite bland, people would have been quite hored~ _ bland, people would have been quite hored~ keir— bland, people would have been quite bored. keir starmer should have dealt _ bored. keir starmer should have dealt with— bored. keir starmer should have dealt with the £2000. that is a side effect _ dealt with the £2000. that is a side effect of— dealt with the £2000. that is a side effect of not having a bowled economic policy and not having a message — economic policy and not having a message about tax, which rachel reeves _ message about tax, which rachel reeves has alluded to. if you want to change — reeves has alluded to. if you want to change the country, you have to do something about tax and something about expenditure. he is saddled with this — about expenditure. he is saddled with this nonresponse, but he could have deatt— with this nonresponse, but he could have dealt with it in the first ten seconds — have dealt with it in the first ten seconds. you could have just said, that is— seconds. you could have just said, that is not— seconds. you could have just said, that is not true, i will not do it. you _ that is not true, i will not do it. you took— that is not true, i will not do it. you took a _ that is not true, i will not do it. you took a long time to get there. i do not _ you took a long time to get there. i do not think— you took a long time to get there. i do not think she rebutted it at all fully _ do not think she rebutted it at all fully you — do not think she rebutted it at all fully. you should have done that and .ot fully. you should have done that and got on _ fully. you should have done that and got on with— fully. you should have done that and got on with the debate.— got on with the debate. labour certainly have _ got on with the debate. labour certainly have sense. - got on with the debate. labour certainly have sense. there - got on with the debate. labour| certainly have sense. there will got on with the debate. labour - certainly have sense. there will be millions of people engaging with this election campaign for the first time tonight, having watched that. what will they have learned about
put under van the biden investigation last year, and further witnesses due to be called over the course of the next two weeks. the length of this trial is expected to proceed, as hunter biden, he denies all three felony counts against him. now we return to salford and rajini vaidyanathan. the debate is continuing there. it vaidyanathan. the debate is continuing there.— vaidyanathan. the debate is continuing there. vaidyanathan. the debate is continuin: there. , , ., ., continuing there. it is. they are on a commercial— continuing there. it is. they are on a commercial break— continuing there. it is. they are on a commercial break because - continuing there. it is. they are on a commercial break because it - continuing there. it is. they are on a commercial break because it is i continuing there. it is. they are on| a commercial break because it is on itv. this is a first head—to—head between keir starmer and rishi sunak. it has already been a lively 15 minutes or so that we have heard from both of them so far. they have been asked questions about the health service, cost of living crisis, and also about taxation. we are already seeing some of the dividing line between the two leaders and some of the similarities. let's go to vicky