after the 2024 presidential election, and jack smith, the special counsel, wants a trial as soon as december. so today we ll get the first indication of where judge ileen cannon stands on this. they issued pro-trump rulings that were overruled by an appeals court. now we ll see where she is on the issue of speedy trial and scheduling in the classified documents case, which is going to have to be juggled potentially with a separate case in mr. trump is correct that he is about to be indicted. ken dilanian in fort pierce, florida, thank you. let s talk about the two cases that are separate. are they going to have, do you think, any conflict of even scheduling? it seems like this is an ongoing series of issues. yes and no, jose. the judges certainly can work out scheduling issues between them and the special counsel s office has shown their own
vis-a-vis, what is going on at the capitol. it s all about interference and election interference. what are the legal differences that the election was lost? what is the knowledge that could make a difference for the former president. it is important to see what the charges are. every criminal statute has a different level of intent. an other times when you can be reckless. but you have to see the charge to know what the intent is. but it appears on public reporting that the special counsel is asking witnesses about that issue, trying to probably at, did trump believe
he had lost and was going forward with all of the plans anyway? or did the president think the election was stolen? it means that it s certainly coming. generally, people that receive a target letter. the letter for mr. trump is giving him an opportunity to report to the grand jury. his lawyer said, there s no requirement that he or any defendant do that. he would be putting himself in grave legal jeopardy to go before the grand jury and talk.
or after the four days, they are on indictment watch. we don t know, do we? if anybody receives a letter this week or last week, indicating they also are a target in this similar investigation. no indication of that. our team is checking with lawyers. other people we presume might face some legal exposure here. the trick here, a lot of people have testified. they may not get the same offer to tell their side of the story. i was struck by what danny said. trump s lawyers may not want to have him give a free-ranging conversation about this case with the grand jury. he s going to have a free-ranging conversation about it. he s doing a town hall on fox news. this will come up. it s the same double-edged
that s untapped and ready to move. it will be hard to get the voters to turn out in the numbers you need them to turn out in a republican primary to overwhelm the tsunami that donald trump has been building since he left office. ron, gabe, makele, thank you for being with us this morning. really appreciate it. coming up, we go to capitol hill for reaction there. you re watching jose diaz belart reports on msnbc.