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That bill states that any ac that ends of pregnancy is a, quote, willful prenata homicide of course, in south carolina that crime carries the death penalty. joining us now, michelle goodwin, she is the chancellor professor of law at th university of california irvin and the author of policing the womb, invisible women and th criminalization of motherhood. also with us mary ziegler, legal historian and barr professor. she is the author of dollars for life, the antiabortion movement and the fall o...

That they represent a return t jim crow can you elaborate on that point? >> thank you for having me thank you for lifting up thi issue. the little translation of th word apartheid is apart hood or separateness. the first version of the dea which was initially submitte by the house of representatives, it looked at creating district in the most densely populated portions of the city while jackson is 83% black, th district, which they gerrymandered,, contains about 86% of jacksons white population ...

Things together. the other ceos agreed with that. a little bit of complaining of worker shortages. it is a high-class problem. they got the cash to incentivize to participate. >> lets go back to that living wage. things cost more. jason, you are out of time as far as basking in the jobs day bliss. thi issue. wages are up. we cant keep saying it is short-term. it doesnt feel that way. >> look, i think the economy is making a lot of progress. i think the fed is going to start tapering asset purcha...

They are worried that gun owners will punish them until there is a comparable intensity on the gun control side. its very difficult to see this changing. weve seen some shifts since newtown. the politics have definitely changed, but enough? >> the difference here is there is a republican in the white house. that could make a difference if he decides hes going to jump in. i was communicating with somebody who talks to the president, who has been pushing the president to do something and said, muc...

They make, enforce the laws on the books. there are a few cases over the past couple of years in which this is actually true. >> why is why that cornyn-murphy piece of legislation, kefr activ -- conservative, liberal, is so critical. chris murphy, who has been the political face of this issue since newtown, is sort of approaching this ted kennedy style, which is, dont just put the most liberal thing out there. tape what you can, get what you cant. >> his own agencies also were to blame here. sol...

Stories on television. who wouldnt be, of course. hes open to some discussions. well see if it goes anywhere. we also heard the white house say they were open to bump stock revisions after the vegas shooting and that didnt happen. but it is a different moment and i think he is the different player here. its on his shoulders, quite frankly. >> the one important difference in this situation is we have children speaking out in a way weve never seen before. children are in front of the camera, putti...

Or funding issues, call building blocks of respect and well see. reminders for our viewers tomorrow, cnn holds a very important skoudiscussion on thi issue. a live town hall frl the school. thats tomorrow night, 9:00 a.m. eastern, on cnn. this morning the president could get out a lot. whats he actually saying sng hey, m my cholesterol is borderline.

All we can do now is keep moving forward and grow into these people that we have determined to be. >> back to that big story in a moment. we begin with a new charge today from the russia special counsel, and with that charge a major message. lie or hide and you will be charged. todays surprise, robert mueller charging a british lawyer for lying to investigators. at issue, his interaction with rick gates, who is already under indictment and who is now trying to make a plea deal. his longtime part...

Reporting of a team last night. the special counsel wants to know why the president took some meetings after the election. he had meetings with chinese and qataris. why did he have those meeting and what does this have to do with the special counsel? >> this has to do with the 666 fifth avenue building thats a million dollars in debt tied to kushners family. there was a meeting, some discussions that took place during the transition. kushner was close to getting a deal done that would have given...

Ultimately do right by their families and one of the young men sitting next to me was interested in enrolling in the marines but he was worried that he had heard a rumor he might not if he had tattoos. i said i dont think -- ive met marines. i dont think thats a problem. so were -- so but it gives you a sense of some young people are so out of the loop and have so little exposure they dont know where to go and how to, you know, apply themselves in ways that allow mem to succeed. so, we are worki...