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Might have a different point of view. The nice thing about this program is we are going to have a job. The police are going to arrest these. The attorneys are going to prosecute their cases and the public defenders is going to defend their client and everybody gets to do their job. They are going to do it legally, ethically, but we ask more that they do it morally. So, if im walking down the street and im pulling my dogs chain or i leave my dog outside in the cold and i dont feed it and it has H...

View. The nice thing about this program is we are going to have a job. The police are going to arrest these. The attorneys are going to prosecute their cases and the public defenders is going to defend their client and everybody gets to do their job. They are going to do it legally, ethically, but we ask more that they do it morally. So, if im walking down the street and im pulling my dogs chain or i leave my dog outside in the cold and i dont feed it and it has Health Problems or i kick it and ...

The associate director for the serial neeb breet program for the city of san diego. And San Francisco chief of police. Gary is a psychiatrist and lauras law advocate and eduardo vega of the Mental Health association of San Francisco. Let me start by opposing a question to karen chen from the public defenders office. Karen, can you how about if you start by giving us an overview of how the city handles this conflict between treatment and Civil Liberties. An involuntary hold starts in San Francisc...

Treatment as jeff node is one of the most contentious issues of Mental Health. As you look at our discussion there are informed and panelled views from both sides. There has been many debates on how to implement lawyers law which consist of outpatient treatment. It was named after laura wilcox, a Mental Health worker who had been shot to death by a man who refused treatment. The county r remains the only county to implement the law. There have been other counties in Los Angeles County and other ...

Diego. Tell us about the program. Is it working . Let me tell you what the program is about. Its a program where people are convicted for drink in public 5 or more times or arrested and held and if they are convicted for the crime in public. If you see it like a drug court model, thats how it works. So if we want to talk about is it successful, we can throw out a number of definitions for that. We know that drunk in public arrest are down 77 percent in san diego. Thats good for you and we can ta...

Was an entry to getting them locked up for 6 months and whether or not you think that People Living on the streets were you consider that a life, those people do consider it their life. So we feel that there absolutely needs to be more services for all levels. We do not feel that we need a coneject ral and problematic extra involuntary process in california and certainly not in San Francisco. Thank you. [ applause ]. I know we are going to be this hearing and discussing a lot more about Outpatie...

The beginning. Even my families, my loved wupz ones that lost. That made me fight more. I never gate gave up my fate. My hope is restored. With that i would like to thank all of our panelist. Thank you. [ applause ] and we are now going to move to our second panel. While they take their seats, this idea of forced treatment versus Constitutional Rights has always been a tension that weve had in our criminal justice system. There is an issue that came up earlier this year that you may have read ab...

If i were brought to a conference for the police, wed have a very different point of view. If i was at a conference for the District Attorney we might have a different point of view. The nice thing about this program is we are going to have a job. The police are going to arrest these. The attorneys are going to prosecute their cases and the public defenders is going to defend their client and everybody gets to do their job. They are going to do it legally, ethically, but we ask more that they do...

Representation also continues with if the person is asked to be stayed or referred for further treatment up to 14 days. During this phase, the attorneys will represent the clients about whether or not they will have to stay on this hold, whether they have to take medications. If a person after at the end of the 14 day hold is found that may need further treatment, the person maybe subject to a conservatorship under the act of the conservator in the california constitution code and representation...

Supposed to have been done from the beginning. Even my families, my loved wupz ones that lost. That made me fight more. I never gate gave up my fate. My hope is restored. With that i would like to thank all of our panelist. Thank you. [ applause ] and we are now going to move to our second panel. While they take their seats, this idea of forced treatment versus Constitutional Rights has always been a tension that weve had in our criminal justice system. There is an issue that came up earlier thi...