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Snowden aftermath was that in more than ten years of having this extraordinary power, this program had never stopped a single terrorist attack. and so the question is the value versus the effort in trying to make it a very difficult thing work. >> charlie savage, the report is in the "new york times." thank you so much. meantime, the presidents grip on his party appears to be slipping. and as a result, also slipping away potentially is the prospect of building a wall along the southern border ...

Obviously. and old industrial area that is not what it used to be in many ways. hei hes saying we have to make it here, we have to make this thing work, fall river. >> i appreciate that approach and that attempt but now it gets down to the rubber hitting the road. we as democrats need to make sure were not just talking at a vocational school with vehicle in the background, but we got do show up. we got to listen to people. we have to go to the factory floor, we have to go to the supermarket. you...

Hes saying we have to make it here, we have to make this thing work, fall river. >> i appreciate that approach and that attempt but now it gets down to the rubber hitting the road. we as democrats need to make sure were not just talking at a vocational school with vehicle in the background, but we got do show up. we got to listen to people. we have to go to the factory floor, we have to go to the supermarket. you and i have talked about that. >> lets sing that song again. if the democrats are go...

Todd: delve into more of the details on that. your senator mitch mcconnell charged with corralling the republicans to get healthcare pass. rand paul says this proposal is not conservative enough. it is simply obamacare with a few less regulations. >> then rand paul needs to come together with the other republicans, maybe pull some people over from the other side and lets come together and get something passed that works for the people. things are going in the right direction. coal mining is comi...

Thing work, tariffs may not be necessary. not unusual. everyone in canada has a variation how they won the race from their campaign to the reality of, looking -- i think the difference between the people that we talked about just a moment ago and donald trump is i sum it up in demeanor and deportment. that is the difference between them about how hell conduct himself as president. now he does reflect a very large part of a popular culture. >> i was going to say, popular culture is radically diff...

Afterwards. because now you have a concrete wall thats very heavy and very dangerous if it would collapse. all the wood beams inside of it, the cross-wood beams supporting it are all gone. so with all the water and all the loss of that structure thats holding things together, theyre tied together with rafters going across, or as that collapses, you only have the steel thats left. so theres nothing, nothing on the sides supporting that concrete wall, and you mentioned rebar. i dont know how much ...

Running out of ballast is the end of the ride in terms of his ability to control his altitude. each time it made things a little better just learning from the previous flight. >> i started using a pilots parachute, which is nice and comfortable. we had more balloons, more ballast, we got more security and safety. better communication between the ground crew. >> july 5, 2008. kent couch attempts to fly from bend, oregon, to boise, idaho, and break his record of 193 miles traveled in a cluster bal...

Pops a couple balloons to come back down. running out of ballast is the end of the ride in terms of his ability to control his altitude. each time it made things a little better just learning from the previous flight. >> i started using a pilots parachute, which is nice and comfortable. we had more balloons, more ballast, we got more security and safety. better communication between the ground crew. >> july 5, 2008. kent couch attempts to fly from bend, oregon, to boise, idaho, and break his rec...

Ability to control his altitude. each time it made things a little better just learning from previous flights. >> i started using a pilots parachute, which is nice and comfortable. we had more balloons, more ballast, we got more security and safety. better communication between the ground crew. >> july 5, 2008. kent couch attempts to fly from bend, oregon, to boise, idaho, and break his record of 193 miles traveled in a cluster balloon. >> on launch day, we had to be up at 3:30 in the morning. >...

Couldnt they have just done that from the start? >> well, the answer is i.t. procurement is a disaster in the federal government. these guys came in, they were sort of authorized by the white house to come at the last minute. they found engineers working for the contractors who wanted to make this thing work, who were willing to do what it needed to be done, but they were working at contracting firms that didnt want to take any responsibility for the job they had before them. one of the engineer...