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for the most annoying show, this might win as well. no, what some people perceive as annoying has nothing to do with yuppie. i think yuppie is a word made up by demographers and advertisers to sell soap. i don't think it has anything to do with what the show is. "thirtysomething" was not a giant hit. but it was a niche hit. it attracted an enormously upscale group of advertisers. shales: the network cared who was watching, not how many were watching. and that was more and more catching on in the '80s. ♪ sifuentes: the prosecution will ask you that you look to the law and this you must do. but i ask of you that you look to your hearts as well. thank you. holmes: "l.a. law" was partly a classic lawyer show. but it was intertwined with their personal lives and different lawyers who were sleeping together and trying to get ahead. yost: the reality level on that show was like a foot or two off the ground. and you were willing to go with that because it was a whole new spin on a law show.

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you looking to get drafted by the eagles? [ chuckles ] "thirtysomething" said, we're not gonna have cops, lawyers, or doctors. we're just gonna be about people. what are we doing here? why did we start this business? to do our thing. but right now we got two wives, three kids, four cars, two mortgages, a payroll. and that's life, pal. you be the breadwinner now. is that what i am? holmes: "thirtysomething" is a very important show as you're going into this era of television being more introspective and more emotional. and some people weren't buying it. but for other people, when they were talking about things like having kids and who was gonna go back to work and some of these issues that hadn't been talked about a whole lot, it was important to people. [ fussing, crying ] i was so looking forward -- [ louder ] i was so looking forward to doing this, to be a grownup for just an hour. in the beginning, there was talk of this being the yuppie show and you mentioned it tonight. you-you said that if there were a category

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to be a grownup for just an hour. in the beginning, there was talk of this being the yuppie show and you mentioned it tonight. you-you said that if there were a category for the most annoying show, this might win as well. no, what some people perceive as annoying has nothing to do with yuppie. i think yuppie is a word made up by demographers and advertisers to sell soap. i don't think it has anything to do with what the show is. "thirtysomething" was not a giant hit. but it was a niche hit. it attracted an enormously upscale group of advertisers. shales: the network cared who was watching, not how many were watching. and that was more and more catching on in the '80s. ♪ sifuentes: the prosecution will ask you that you look to the law and this you must do. but i ask of you that you look to your hearts as well. thank you. holmes: "l.a. law" was partly a classic lawyer show. but it was intertwined with their personal lives and different lawyers who were sleeping together and trying to get ahead.

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to appeal to a very specific demographic. hi, handsome. look at that shirt. is that a power shirt or what? nice suit ellen, good shoulder pads. you looking to get drafted by the eagles? [ chuckles ] "thirtysomething" said, we're not gonna have cops, lawyers, or doctors. we're just gonna be about people. what are we doing here? why did we start this business? to do our thing. but right now we got two wives, three kids, four cars, two mortgages, a payroll. and that's life, pal. you be the breadwinner now. is that what i am? holmes: "thirtysomething" is a very important show as you're going into this era of television being more introspective and more emotional. and some people weren't buying it. but for other people, when they were talking about things like having kids and who was gonna go back to work and some of these issues that hadn't been talked about a whole lot, it was important to people. [ fussing, crying ] i was so looking forward -- [ louder ] i was so looking forward to doing this,

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defendant into caving in or consisting a jury to just compromise. so i think that there is a lot of that in this indictment. and i did not read very carefully, i had to put aside and was driving, but it looks to me like this is a poor set of facts where they unbundled bunch of charges and made them into thirtysomething or fortysomething individual indictments. and that is a very heavy-handed technique. >> neil: one of the things that comes up or was the parent -- president was storing a lot of things that you call sensitive information, information on weapons, nuke programs, even how we treat foreign countries and whether there is a possibility or a game plan and one of these documents to attack, we just don't know, we don't know the details, we know it has been alleged in what the president allegedly said about that and shared with others who

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dogs, think again. this is the generation that has discovered hard work and success. >> american culture is changing in the '80s. and in terms of television, there's a whole notion of demographic segmentation. >> networks were beginning to not be afraid to appeal to a very specific demographic. >> hi, handsome. look at that shirt. is that a power shirt or what? >> nice suit ellen, good shoulder pads. you looking to get drafted by the eagles? >> "thirtysomething" said we're not gonna have cops, lawyers, or doctors. we're just gonna be about people. >> what are we doing here? why did we start this business? >> to do our thing. but right now, we got two wives, three kids, four cars, two mortgages, a payroll. and that's life, pal. you be the breadwinner now. >> is that what i am? >> "thirtysomething" is a very important show as you're going into this era of television being more introspective and more emotional. and some people weren't buying it. but for other people, when they were talking about things like

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having kids and who was gonna go back to work and some of these issues that hadn't been talked about a whole lot, it was important to people. >> i was so looking forward -- i was so looking forward to doing this, to be a grownup for just an hour. >> in the beginning, there was talk of this being the yuppie show, and you mentioned it tonight. you said that if there were a category for the most annoying show, this might win as well. >> no, what some people perceive as annoying has nothing to do with yuppie. i think yuppie is a word made up by demographers and advertisers to sell soap. i don't think it has anything to do with what the show is. >> "thirtysomething" was not a giant hit. but it was a niche hit. it attracted an enormously upscale group of advertisers. >> the network cared who was watching, not how many were watching. and that was more and more

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the end. >> silent night. >> in the last 10, 15 years, it's been really refreshing to see tv series move toward representing different kinds of families and different ways of celebrating holidays. >> you know, i see this tree. i see it in my living room. i see my grandfather rising up from the grave and having another heart attack. >> "thirtysomething" was one of the first shows that was about a character who was wrestling with judaism and christianity being melded into the same family. >> i didn't grow up celebrating christmas. i grew up celebrating hanukkah. >> it's time to light the hanukkah candles. >> for me as a kid, christmas for jews was chinese food and movies. >> hanukkah's eight nights too long. >> and so once adam sandler came out with "eight crazy nights," it made me feel not so alone. >> happy hanukkah. >> it's the story of adam sandler during hanukkah. so now when i think of hanukkah,

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they like the show and they supposedly like me. so i called home, and my father answered, and he says, "your mother wanted a coffee maker." yes. they traded my gift for a coffee maker. >> i can't believe this. do you know how much time and thought and -- >> oh, sweetie, sweetie -- >> that was a very specific thing relatable to my family. i didn't know it would be relatable to yours or anyone else's. >> who are you people? >> here's what you should do when you get a gift. i'm just saying. thank you. the end. ♪ silent night ♪ >> in the last 10, 15 years, it's been really refreshing to see tv series move toward representing different kinds of families and different ways of celebrating holidays. >> you know, i see this tree. i see it in my living room. i see my grandfather rising up from the grave and having another heart attack. >> "thirtysomething" was one of

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see tv series move toward representing different kinds of families and different ways of celebrating holidays. >> you know, i see this tree. i see it in my living room. i see my grandfather rising up from the grave and having another heart attack. >> "thirtysomething" was one of the first shows that was about a character who was wrestling with judaism and christianity being melded into the same family. >> i didn't grow up celebrating christmas. i grew up celebrating hanukkah. >> it's time to light the hanukkah candles. >> for me as a kid, christmas for jews was chinese food and movies. >> hanukkah's eight nights too long. >> and so once adam sandler came out with "eight crazy nights," it made me feel not so alone. >> happy hanukkah. >> it's the story of adam sandler during hanukkah. so now when i think of hanukkah, i think of "eight crazy nights." so we've got one, everybody. we've got one. >> of course, there's a lot of

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