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we've got him coming up. but an understanding today's news out of the canadian capital. and what happened today in ottawa. it is worth considering what has just happened in canada leading up to this. last week, canada's version of the pentagon, their department of national defense, instituted a new policy related to members of the armed forces and the press. after canadian prime minister stephen harper announced canadian aircraft and canadian personnel would be taking part in the coalition air campaign against isis militants in iraq, the defense department subsequently announced new restrictions on how the media would be allowed to cover canadian military personnel deploying to that fight. this is how a clearly frustrated "toronto sun" newspaper wrote up the new media restrictions. this is that article from the "sun." they explained for the first time although they, as the press, were being allowed to show that there were some canadian troops leaving to go fight isis in iraq, the new restrictions on them included news photographers not being allowed to show any of the soldiers' faces too closely, and news reporters and photographers not being allowed to reveal any of the names of the men and women who were being deployed to iraq. the defense department also banned the canadian media from interviewing any members of those soldiers' families as those soldiers headed off to iraq. the new restrictions went so far that a public affairs officer reportedly clicked through individual images with news photographers who were there to cover the departure of those troops leaving to go to iraq and the public affairs officer ordered news photographers to delete specific photographs in their cameras. specific photographs that the military deemed were too specific about who exactly those canadian soldiers were. the canadian government explained that the elaborate new restrictions were because of fears that members of the military or members of their families might be targeted at home. might be targeted in canada in retribution for the canadian military participating in the u.s.-led fight against isis. so, that was a new policy in canada implemented over just the past couple of weeks. roughly simultaneously nbc news also reported -- nbc news published a story on october 8th, exclusively reporting, that canadian authorities had overheard isis sympathizers talking about potential low-tech terrorist attacks inside canada. the intelligence that nbc reported two weeks ago was not that there was any sort of spectacular terrorist event planned. some major bombing in the works. instead, these would-be individual attacks would be low-level attacks. they called them, quote, knife and gun attacks. against canadian targets inside canada, as nbc news reported, it was maybe also going to include some sort of american targets inside canada, if that was possible, but that was the canadian intelligence. canadian authorities at the time, roughly two weeks ago, would not confirm the specifics of what nbc news reported about that intelligence chatter, right, about what they were overhearing among islamic extremists. but the canadian government did announce that same day that the mounties, the royal canadian mounted police, were working on dozens of simultaneous, active domestic terrorism investigations involving canadian citizens. they announced that specifically they were monitoring 90 people in canada who they believed might be connected to islamic extremist terrorism, going so far with some of those people to revoke their passports so they could not travel abroad. so, this all happened before today. this has all happened over the last couple of weeks in canada. clearly, the canadian government knew something was up. knew something was going on. i mean, their federal police and intelligence and defense agencies were confident enough that something was going on that they instituted these new, unprecedented measures to try to create kind of a shield of anonymity around members of the military and their families. they were confident enough that something was cooking, they were willing to explain publicly they were monitoring 90 individuals inside that country for potential ties to terrorists and potential intention to join up with terrorist groups. so that's all happened over the last couple of weeks. clearly, something going on. and then this week, on monday, there was what the canadian government is now describing as a terrorist attack. in a suburb of montreal, a strip mall parking lot, a man named martin couture-rouleau, a recent convert to islam, he reportedly sat in his car for two hours outside a veteran support center in that strip mall before apparently deliberately ramming his car into two uniformed canadian soldiers and running them both down. one of those soldiers was hospitalized and is now in stable condition. the second soldier, a 53-year-old warrant officer was killed in that attack. the hit-and-run driver then took off, led police on a high-speed chase, eventually rolled his car into a ditch. when he emerged from his rolled over vehicle, police say he was carrying a knife and they shot him and killed him. after that incident on monday -- this is fascinating. so, that incident happened on monday, just two days ago. after that happened, police announced that the killer in that case, the guy who they shot when he got out of his car with a knife, they say, they say he was one of the 90 people who they had been monitoring in conjunction with ties to terrorism and terrorist groups. the mounties had just announced they were monitoring 90 people and then one of the 90 people they were monitoring commits this crime. they say they started monitoring him in june when his facebook feed became increasingly radical and violent and expressed a desire to leave the country to go join isis fighters abroad. in july it appears he tried to do just that. when he was attempting to leave the country to fly to turkey which is how most fighters, it appears, have gotten into syria to join isis. he was apparently stopped in canada, arrested by canadian authorities as he was attempting to travel to turkey. they stopped him from doing so, they confiscated his passport and took him into custody. they did not keep him in custody. they said they had no basis to do so. but they kept in touch. police say they were in regular contact with the man as recently as two weeks ago. they say their last meeting with him was on october 9th. they'd also taken meetings with the imma'am at the mosque he attended, taken meetings with his parents all to try to intervene, to try to stop him from the radical path they thought he was on. but after last talking to police two weeks ago, the next time he surfaced was after killing that one soldier and wounding another. again, that suspect in the monday attack, the suspect himself was killed after that hit-and-run. and after that hit-and-run targeting those uniformed officers in which one was injured and one was killed, the canadian government announced that they believed it was a terrorist attack. just days before they'd also raised the threat level for the nation. the first time it had been raised nationwide since 2010. and then today, for the second time in three days, another uniformed member of the canadian armed forces was killed on canadian soil. tonight the canadian government has identified 32-year-old canadian citizen michael joseph hall, aka, michael zehaf-bibeau as the gunman who was shot dead inside one of the main buildings in the canadian parliament in ottawa this morning. the man is described by authorities as a convert to islam. he's 32 years old. we know that he just turned 32 years old. they released his birth date. but we know very little else about him. his name was confirmed shortly after it was reported that canadian government provided his name to u.s. authorities, specifically to ask the fbi for help in tracking down any potential terrorist affiliations or suspicious activities this man might have been involved in that might help them understand more about this attack today in ottawa and what happened today. law enforcement officials in washington tell "the new york times" tonight that a search of fbi databases had not come up with anything on the guy, at least so far. when the news first broke, about what was happening in ottawa this morning, initial reports made it seem like there might be simultaneous attacks under way at three or even four sites simultaneously in the canadian capital. those initial reports this morning proved to be untrue. but they did create this very alarming international impression that there might be a sort of mumbai thing going on here, right? there might be a complex, coordinated assault involving multiple gunmen, multiple attackers at multiple sites all hitting places in the capital at the same time. that's what the initial reports suggested. now, it appears, that what happened were shooting attacks at two sites. close to each other in downtown ottawa, right at the heart of the canadian national government. it was twoe sites. and the two attacks were not simultaneous, but they did happen one right after the other. the first one was at canada's war memorial where they hold veterans commemorations, a uniformed canadian soldier who has now been identified as 24-year-old corporal nathan cirillo, from hamilton, shot and killed at the war memorial with apparently no provocation and no apparent warning. some of the saddest footage from ottawa today showed desperate efforts by passers-by and other soldiers who rushed to corporal cirillo's aid, trying to revive him after he'd been shot. this is amateur video obtained tonight. the person who shot this video claims this shows what happens next after the war memorial shooting. this is an ongoing story, the details may change as we learn more and the investigation continues. but as of tonight, we do have this amateur video, which appears to show what happened after that initial shooting, that fatal shooting at the war memorial. what it appears to show is that after the war memorial shooting, the gunman from that shooting then got into a vehicle and drove away from the scene of that shooting but did not drive away very far. you can see on this map the location of the first shooting, national war memorial, in relation to the location of the second shooting. and as you can see from this aerial view, they're just a couple blocks apart. the canadian parliament has an east block, a west block and a centre block, three buildings all tightly centered on what they call parliament hill this video shot by a reporter josh wingrove shows what happened after the gunman reportedly entered into the centre block and police started to close in on him down this sort of classical -- the reporter was there among the police officers who were moving toward the active shooter. moving toward the gunman when this incredible barrage of gunfire rung out. we still don't know exactly what happened inside parliament, including basic details like what kind of gun the gunman had or how many times he fired or the eventual -- the eventual exchange of fire that led to his death. we don't know the details yet of his confrontation with security forces inside the parliament building. but what we are told by the canadian authorities tonight is that the gunman was shot and killed inside the parliament building by this man. he officially is the sergeant-at-arms at the canadian parliament. and it is a job that can seem very ceremonial, up to and including having to wear all the formal ridiculous ceremonial gear, right? for formal events and processions involving parliament. but it is not just a formal head. he is the chief security officer for the parliament. and tonight he personally is being described as the man who shot and killed this attacking gunman inside parliament. who may have been the same gunman who killed corporal nathan cirillo, just moments earlier, just blocks away at the national war memorial. canadian officials are not officially ruling out the possibility there was another person or multiple other people involved in this attack. the one suspect's name that we do have is said to be the man who was killed in parliament today, apparently by the sergeant-at-arms. was this one man, one gun? is this one man, one gun acting in isolation? should this be seen as a continuation of the threat and, indeed, the attack that happened in canada killing another uniformed soldier just two days ago? is this what canadian soldiers and intelligence agencies clearly have been bracing themselves against for the last couple of weeks? as they put in these new restrictions on learning the identity of members of the canadian armed forces fighting against isis as they announced an alert -- a change in the alert level, the terror level for the entire nation of canada as they announced they had 90 people under surveillance for potential ties to terrorist groups. as nbc news reported they had overheard chatter they were going to be low-level knife and gun type attacks by isis sympathizers inside canada. is this what they knew was coming? and how much of this particular story is over? after those first shots rang out this morning at about 10:20 a.m. eastern time, the parliament building in ottawa was put under lockdown. the whole downtown -- that whole downtown portion of ottawa was put under lockdown. people advised the public to stay away from the area, away from parliament hill and away from that part of ottawa generally. about an hour after that, all schools in the area and the university of ottawa were also placed on lockdown. few minutes later before noon today, all military bases were placed on lockdown. throughout the course of the day today that lockdown was lifted from ottawa schools and the university, and then ultimately all of the downtown area. within just the last few minutes, we are hearing reports that the lockdown on parliament itself, which had lasted all die today and well into tonight, is just now in the process of being lifted. i said moments ago that we were hoping to speak with the reporter from the "globe and mail" who shot this remarkable video, including the sound of the fire fight inside parliament. well, he is, as we speak, still inside parliament. and although the lockdown is now reportedly lifted in downtown ottawa and in the process of being lifted inside parliament. the reporter josh wingrove is still apparently unable to leave inside the building where he's been all day since he shot this at the very beginning of the confrontation and joins us now. mr. wingrove, thank you very much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> i appreciate it after a hard day. >> thank you. >> can you tell us the circumstances of how you came to shoot that video today? >> it began as a pretty normal day, which seems, you know, silly to think now. we were just there. this is -- wednesday mornings are when mps have their caucus meetings. it's a good chance for all of us to get them on issues we're doing. so, i was there for that. i had holed up in an alcove just writing a story, you know, about 10 to 10:00 in the morning, and that's when we heard the gunfire break out. now, at first it was -- sounded like two types of guns. sort of an initial burst. and that's when i came around from the alcove and looked. and seemed to erupt in the t rotunda of the parliament building. the big open area, sort of the grand entrance sort of area right in the center of the building. it's often filled with tourists, but sort of a down season. there weren't a lot of people there. and what we saw was smoke in the air and you could smell gunpowder and guards with their guns drawn. and it looked like they were on more of a hunt than a chase. in other words, it didn't seem they had their eyes on someone right at that moment. and so, we sort of followed and walked toward the rotunda as they moved down sort of to my left. and that's where the video we shot sort of kicks in. that's moving down what's called the hall of honour, where we had a tribute to all of the soldiers canada lost in afghanistan. that's where they were walking down. and they're walking towards the library of parliament at the back and the left where our prime minister was with his members of parliament. so, you see them advancing along it and then opening fire, which is a remarkable number of bullets. it seemed to me, in the sort of haste of it all, that many, if not all of those shots were fired from guards at what we presume was the suspect. and we saw, sort of, as i said, a body sort of slumped in front of the library. so the opposite ends of the rotunda. the whole thing took maybe three or four minutes. and as you can imagine, it was just absolutely surreal. and we've learned since, of course, the earlier attack and the death of the canadian soldier. it's just been a heartbreaking day here in ottawa. >> josh, as you were trying -- both realizing what was happening and trying to figure out what was happening as you were following the security officers and trying to understand what they were doing, did you have any sense either then or immediately after if they thought there was more than one gunman, if they knew there was only one? or if they knew -- they thought they knew there was more than one? was that at all clear to you? >> it's my firm sense they thought and still think there was more than one. as i say, we've been in lockdown now since 10:00 a.m. that's a pretty long time. and if you thought the building and the area around the building were safe, i don't think that's the situation we'd be in. we saw immediately after the shooting, tactical teams sweeping the building, breaking down office doors, you know, going room by room. and that's sort of what led us all to be gathered in the holding room we're in now. baushgsz of course, people sought refuge all over the building. ducked into whatever corner you could find as the shots sort of rang out in the hallway and is the back bony of the parliament building. it's been a very chaotic day. very fluid situation. very little information here, for those of us sort of in lockdown, still in parliament. we're just biding our time, waiting to see when we'll be able to get out of here. >> they haven't given any advice of when you might be able to leave yet? >> no, i wish, i think the fiance's hoping for something. >> josh winggrove. reporter from "globe and mail" newspaper, still right now in lockdown there tonight. josh, good luck to you. thank you for talking to us. good luck. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. we've got more ahead on the security situation in canada, plus more news ahead tonight, just a remarkable day. stay with us. 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lawn of the white house. the secret service stopped him. more specifically, apparently, the working dogs of the secret service stopped the man and brought him down on the lawn before he could get close to the white house. he's said to have gotten 20 to 25 yards from the fence before they brought him down. i should say this video was captured incidentally by news crews who were on site for normal white house coverage responsibilities when this fence jumping happened. tonight after the incident, the secret service, we're told, spread out across the white house grounds. the whole white house facility, the whole campus there was put on lockdown. so the secret service could investigate this breach. and assure that the white house was safe. we're told tonight that the man who jumped over the fence was injured in this incident tonight. we're not exactly sure how. we're told that he's being treated for his injuries. we're also told that whatever reporters and crews and photographers were on scene there tonight from the white house press corps, they were for a long time all locked down inside the white house while the secret service investigated that incident. but that lockdown for the press at white house has now ended. white house fence-jumpers do happen. this happening tonight, though, does come at an incredibly tense time. even just looking at us, right. just looking at this country. after a series of scandals and lapses involving the u.s. secret service recently, it was just a month ago that a troubled 42-year-old texas man armed with a knife was not only able to jump the fence, but he was able to run all the way across the white house lawn and into an unlocked door at the north portico of the white house. he was then able to run through about half the ground floor of the white house proper before the secret service finally knocked him down. after that incident and the expose of other lapses and scandals at the secret service, the secret service director resigned. and the secret service also installed -- you can see at the bottom of your screen here -- a temporary second fence. it's only a wee little fence, but the hope is it would at least slow down any aspiring fence-jumpers so the secret service would have more time to get to them. well, tonight secret service officers and secret service dogs did apparently have enough time toe get to the man on the white house north lawn. again, the man is reportedly injured and in custody. but we will let you know more about this as we learn it. of course, tonight's breach also comes after a scary and at times bewildering day of news out of the canadian capital of ottawa, 500 miles north of washington, d.c. president obama met with his new ebola policy coordinator at the white house today. he met with reporters afterward. and naturally, reporters didn't just want to talk about ebola, they also wanted to talk about what happened today. the gunman talk in the canadian parliament and the killing of a canadian uniformed soldier. >> i had a chance to talk with prime minister harper this afternoon. obviously the situation there is tragic. just two days ago, a canadian soldier had been killed in an attack. we now know that another young man was killed today. and i expressed on behalf of the american people our condo lens to the family and to the canadian people as a whole. we don't yet have all the information about what motivated the shooting. we don't yet have all the information about whether this was part of a broader network or plan or whether this was an individual or series of individuals who decided to take these actions. >> president obama went on to say in these remarks today that it's important for us to recognize that when it comes to dealing with terrorist activity that canada and the united states have to be entirely in sync. i want to bring into the conversation leanne goodman, she's a national affairs reporter with the canadian press. thank you very much for being here. i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> so in terms of this still being an ongoing story. >> appreciate it. >> appreciate you being here, as well. we're just speaking with another reporter who found himself on lockdown inside one of the parliament buildings. >> yes. >> today since this is morning. he explained that although parts of ottawa are being unlocked down, those still inside parliament have not been cleared to leave. to what extent is this still an ongoing security situation? >> you know, i just walked to this studio from my office about a block and a half away. and it's like i was in a war zone. i got challenged at every step, what was i doing outside? why did they let me outside? get back into my building. you better have authorization to be where you're going. it's kind of scary being on the streets in ottawa. something i might have expected. you know, i was in d.c. covering the white house and capitol hill for five years. i sort of sadly got accustomed to covering those sorts of stories in the states and dealing with that security. but you just don't see it up here. it's a real shock. >> is it clear to you why the lockdown or partial lockdown is still under way? i mean, the authorities thus far have been vague, seems purposely vague, about whether or not they're clear that this was a single person attack or whether there might have been other people involved in this, whether it might have been somehow coordinate coordinated. is that what they're still doing, as best we can tell? >> it seems so. the rcmp held a news conference today where they seem to sort of back pedal a bit on whether there was more than one shooter. they didn't outright say there wasn't. but they were less forceful in suggesting there was more than one gunman. but -- and i would assume, you know, i don't know if you remember the navy yard shooting in d.c. where for most of the day, we thought there were three or four shooters and ended up being just one guy. and i suspected that's what was going on here, as well. but the fact that the town is under such a severe lockdown, as you say, makes you wonder if they know something we don't and they're not sharing with the rest of us. >> in terms of the named suspect, the man killed today. michael joseph hall. do we know anything further about his background, whether or not he was on the radar of security officials or intelligence officials, whether or not there's anything about him that might indicate more about what was behind this attack today or whether it's linked to others? >> he has -- he does have a criminal background. he's known to police. he changed his name from michael hall to a more, i guess, islamic-sounding name. nobody's sure why or what his motivation is, but it seems this was an act of terrorism. the prime minister came out tonight and said it was an act of terrorism. he ran through large groups of civilians and could've taken out a lot more people than he did. he seemed intent on taking out a canadian soldier and then running to parliament hill or driving part of the way, actually, to parliament hill to go after parliamentarians. he wasn't sort of randomly some sort of disgruntled employee who was just randomly taking out as many people as possible. he seemed to be targeting certain, you know, politicians and parliamentarians and the canadian military. so we don't know a lot about him right now, but i fully expect there's going to be a lot of information being revealed about him in the days to come, especially given we just went through this two days ago with another radicalized canadian who had jihadist sympathies and, again, just canadian boys who somehow went wrong and no one's quite sure why yet. >> national affairs reporter lee-anne goodman. with the canadian press. appreciate you getting through the gauntlet to be on camera with us. thanks very much. good luck. >> thank you. appreciate you having me on. >> thanks. all right. next, we're going to be talking live with a member of the canadian parliament who was inside during the attack. also, still ahead, why the republican official who claims to have helped save alabama from the democrats is in a whole lot of trouble that he did not expect tonight. stay with us. a single ember that escapes from a wildfire can travel more than a mile. that single ember can ignite and destroy your home or even your community you can't control where that ember will land only what happens when it does get fire adapted now at fireadapted.org in 1966 a 45-year-old man walked into a business that sold blasting supplies for mining and construction and stuff. and he said he wanted to buy ten sticks of dynamite. he made up a story for why he had some legitimate reason to need the dynamite, gave a fake name, fake address, they let him buy it. but here's the thing, when he was buying the dynamite, he asked the clerk he was buying it from what he should expect from the fuses that he was buying to go along with the dynamite. he didn't know, so he asked. and what the clerk told him was that he could expect about 60 seconds of burn time for every one foot length of fuse. turns out, the clerk was wrong. in reality, those fuses burned one foot every 40 seconds, not one foot every 60 seconds. and so, when the man built those sticks of dynamite into a bomb, he timed it out in terms of the fuses. he went to the canadian parliament with his bomb made out of sticks of dynamite, got up, went to a bathroom, lit the fuse on the bomb, and then he calculated that he would have just enough time to get from the bathroom back out into the public gallery to throw the bomb onto the floor of the parliament whereupon it would explode. but thank christ the clerk gave him the wrong information about the burn time of the fuses. and so the only thing he ended up blowing up was the bathroom that he was in. and himself. and nobody else besides him died in the process. that ridiculous attempted bombing attack on the canadian parliament happened in 1966. we've posted a link to the remarkable cbc archive footage of that attack online today if you want to see it for yourself. it is, as i say, remarkable. that failed attack in the '60s led to some of the first significant security measures at the canadian parliament, including people in public galleries having to have their bags and parcels checked, and employees of parliament having to wear identification badges and stuff like that. but the canadian parliament building is still a really heavily visited and public place. it is a place of business for the canadian parliament. it is also, though, a tourist attraction that receives millions of visitors each year. in part because it's lovely. there have been other scary security incidents at parliament over the years. at this one, 25 years ago, in 1989, an armed man hijacked a greyhound bus full of hostages and parked it on parliament hill right outside the parliament buildings. there was an eight-hour standoff with s.w.a.t. teams before he eventually released his hostages and surrendered. a few years later in 1997, a man drove his jeep cherokee up two flights of stairs, right up to the main entrance doors of the parliament building and started screaming about politicians and devil worshippers. before police were able to subdue him, he kicked out the back window of a police cruiser once they threw him in it. the canadian parliament in ottawa has seen its share of security breaches, large and small. but today it was a low-tech order from security officials for members of parliament once the shooting started inside parliament's center block building. police told the mps and told anybody else working inside the building that they should stay where they were, that they should lock any doors that could lock, and they said, for any doors that could not be locked, security officers told them to barricade those doors. barricade them shut. look at this photo. this reuters photo today showing the conservative party caucus room inside the parliament today. members having piled up chairs against the doors as a makeshift barricade against whatever might have been coming their way. charlie angus is a member of parliament from the new democratic party. he was also inside the building when the shooting started this morning. he told reporters today that as the gunfire echoed through the halls during his party's caucus meeting, quote, suddenly those parliamentary caucus doors looked very, very flimsy. joining us now is charlie angus, mp. mr. angus, thanks very much for being with us tonight. it's been a difficult day for you. >> thank you very much for having me. >> first of all, can you tell us what happened over the course of your day once this gunfire broke out in parliament while you and so many other mps were there and when you were finally able to get out of the building? >> well, thank you for your interest. for your viewers to understand, wednesday is caucus day in parliament. we meet mondays to friday, but wednesday mornings, all mps meet with their parties. in the main corridor, you probably have the footage where the gunfire took place. that's the hall of honour. that's the center spine of the parliament buildings. there's a door to the right. and on that side is our caucus, the new democratic party, where our leader finished meeting with our mps. the door to the left is where the prime minister and the cabinet was. so roughly around 10:00 this morning, a hundred of us or so mps are in a room and we hear heavy duty gunfire on the other side of that door. there's an air of unreality about this. you're thinking, this isn't really happening. and then you think columbine, you think there's a shooter. and the obvious choice for that shooter is one door or the other. and so we were putting up desks and he's on the floor getting people down, making sure people were calm. and we did that. we did that in an orderly fashion. we looked out for each other. we made sure we stayed together. and fortunately, our security were there to handle the situation, and we lost a young reservist soldier from the argyll and suterland highlands regime regiment, mr. cirillo, but we didn't lose anyone else. >> mr. angus, are you and other members of parliament or leadership from any of the parties being briefed in terms of the ongoing investigation? obviously, there's a lot of both curiosity and concern as to whether or not this was an individual acting alone, whether this might have been linked to either the earlier incident this week or any other incidents that might be about to happen or that might have been connected to this. are you being briefed on the investigation? or can you tell us what you know? >> well, i know that our leader, thomas mulcair, the leader of the opposition will be in briefings. the prime minister's certainly been briefed. some of our mps were still in lockdown until recently. some of the others were not. what we do know from these two incidents this week and it's very important to stress these. the terrible killing of a soldier by a guy in a shopping mall with a car, this was not a terrorist brought in from overseas. he was a local boy, who -- born and bred in quebec, who became so-called radicalized. i think became so-called crazy. so we had one incident and then we have what may have been a copycat. another young man, the only thing we know about him is previous conviction for drugs, previous addiction for -- or conviction for mugging. does that tell me that this is an international terror gang? the only thing he had in his hand was a shotgun. and thank god all he had was a shotgun and not heavy duty weaponry. so, are we dealing with an international terrorist threat? are we dealing with wannabes and copycats? these are things that as we deconstruct what happened today, we will need to -- we need to look through that. we will need to look through the security of how parliament operates to make sure -- but we also need to make sure that we do not as a country give in because some nut job decides to make a name for himself in the papers and throws our democracy off course. so let's look at what happened, but let's not be spooked by these kind of people. >> charlie angus, member of parliament, who had a very difficult day today and who saw a lot of this firsthand. sir, thank you so much for your time tonight. thank you for your perspective. i appreciate you being here. >> well, thank you and thanks to all of our cousins south of the border who have been paying attention and praying for us. so, we are -- >> absolutely. >> -- big north america and sometimes you guys rub us the wrong way, but you're the closest family we have. thank you so much for your concern. >> that means a lot to me personally. thank you, sir. >> i bet it does. you take care. >> exactly right. >> as a person whose nmom is a newfi, this is a day where the news is hitting me in particular. we've got lots of other big news that happened today. stay with us. you think you take off all your make-up before bed. but do you really? 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"storming the state house," this is the campaign book written bit chairman of the republican party and the republican speaker of the house, the most powerful politician in the state of alabama. see the subtitle there? "storming the state house: the campaign that liberated alabama from 136 years of democrat rule." rat rule. now how they don't say democratic? the author of that tale about how alabama was liberated from rats -- i mean democrats is named mike hubbard, the most powerful politician in alabama. those states where the government vetoes something they can override with a simple majority vote. which means anybody who controls the majority of votes in the legislature, aka the speaker, has way more power than anybody else, including the governor. they can essentially run the state. in 2010 nationwide, republicans launched a $20 million campaign to take over state legislatures across the country. hugely successful. they emerged ruling more chambers and legislatures than they had since the 1950s. they then used that control of state legislatures to gerrymander congressional districts so republicans basically can't lose the house of representatives until there's another census in the year 2020. republicans did great in the last midterms in 2010. and the poster child for their success in that effort was alabama and old mike hubbard. mike hubbard is not only chair of the republican party in the state, also the republican leader in the legislature since 2006. democrats had control of the alabama state legislature for 130-some-odd years in alabama, since reconstruction after the civil war. it was proving for hard for republicans to push the yats out, even as the state got more and more red. in part because there were strict state laws against corporations donating more than $500 to any one campaign. they're having a hard time pushing the democrats out. $500 per campaign from corporations was not going to be enough to fund a republican takeover in a state like that. but mike hubbard hatched a plan with national republican party leaders to basically launder big donations and corporate money all over the country and funnel it into alabama to try to turn that state red. in 2010 it worked. under mike hubbard, the republican party won all statewide offices in alabama. they gained control of both houses of the state legislature for the first time in 136 years. and so republican party chairman mike hubbard wrote his book and he became majority leader instead of minority leader and he ran unopposed for the most powerful job in state government. he became speaker of the house. and if you've been looking at these pictures, you notice this picture is different from the other ones we've been showing is because this one is his new mug shot. this week, the man who turned alabama red, lauded nationwide as the architect of the republican party takeover of alabama, this week he was indicted on 23 felony corruption charges. using his position as chair of the party for personal gain, using his position in the legislature for personal gain. he's charged basically with shaking down lobbyists and other players in alabama politics for hundreds of thousands of dollars in investments in his various businesses. the indictment of who he asked for payments or got payments from is a who's who of alabama politics. former governor bob riley, his daughter is a big-time lobbyist, head of the business council with the amazing name of bimy canary. alabama speaker of the house mike hubbard was indicted on 23 felony counts on monday. he was photographed and fingerprinted. less than an hour later he was back out on the campaign trail doing a league of women voters candidate forum because he's up for re-election in less than two weeks. apparently there's nothing in alabama law that says a person has to resign or step aside from even a very top of the tippy top office just because they've been indicted on nearly two dozen felony charges. mike hubbard says he's being railroaded. he says people are out to get him, it's a political persecution. but since the republican party took control of the alabama state government, mike hubbard's triumph, right, he's now the third alabama republican state rep to get arrested in this corruption. first pled guilty in april, second one goes on trial on monday. and now mike hubbard himself, the architect himself, the man who put republicans in control of that state and who basically runs that state, he's now facing trial, too, and up to 20 years in prison. and in the meanwhile, he's facing a re-election effort in less than two weeks. just an amazing turn of events. watch this space. that does it for us tonight on what has been an incredible night of news. we're going to see you again tomorrow night. you again tomor night. "first look" is up next. good morning. right now on "first look," terror in canada. [ sirens ] >> out of the way! move, move! [ shots ] >> gunfire in parliament following a mass gunman's violent shooting of a canadian soldier turns ottawa into an armed camp. an overwhelming number of frightened americans want tighter screenings for ebola. and hear for the first time from recovering ebola patient ashoka mukpo. >> do you know how you contracted ebola? >> i mean, that's the million-dollar question. plus, another white house fence-jumper to tell you about. and strong winds and heavy rain hitting new england.

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