The tensions between the former exxonmobil ceo and johnny destefano. Joining me is the author of the story, alex eisenstat and White House Correspondent for the daily beast. This has been driving discussion since President Trump took office. Welcome to you both. Alex, your story. Tell us who was there and when it happened and what it was about. Sure. This was a meeting that happened last week. It was in the white house. You had secretary of state Rex Tillerson there. You had johnny destefano. Oversees white house hiring. You had Jared Kushner there. You had Reince Priebus there. Tillerson exploded. He yelled at destefano over the hiring issues. Tensions over hiring. He believed destefano had been taking over control. This is tension that has been going on for months with the state department and white house. It is one of the reasons why a lot of the state department is not staffed up. They cannot decide who to fill the roles. Back and forth with the state department and white house. Wh
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