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Kim, that he touched jill. >> reporter: and the defense hoped its cross examination of boney would be still more proof. camm had to steel himself to watch boney on the stand. >> youre looking at him. >> right. there was no way for me to actually prepare myself for that. and it was a situation where i really had to think about what was at stake. and doing what was right in that moment. having to sit and there and look at this guy that i knew killed my family and not react. >> reporter: the defens...

And before i heard the "pop", i heard her say, "no," and it was -- a commanding, "no," like, "stop," and then, i heard a pop. then i heard the word, "daddy." >> reporter: two more pops followed. >> did you know what that was? >> it sounded like a handgun. >> so, whatd ya think? >> im thinkin that this is a crime scene. >> so do you say, "ive gotta get outta here"? >> i would have liked to had just left, but as he emerged from the garage and pointed the handgun at me, i was frozen. >> oh, so now ...

"well, what types of things did you do to get in prison in the first place?" he was creating his own form of intel. he was learning quite a few things about charles boney. >> reporter: boney told him hed been inside for robbery. >> and when i slowly started to let him know about some of the thingsthat i did in the past, he asked me, "well, are you still able to get untraceable weapons?" "you know can you get an untraceable weapon?" >> untraceable. >> thats, thats what it led to, im just --. >> a...

If youve spent any time with mr. camm, he has a way of putting you at ease, he has a way of making you feel like hes legit and everythings okay. and plus i didnt care what the gun was for. >> youve provided this former trooper with weapons, he was on a special weapons team with the indiana state police. >> he was s.w.a.t. >> so theoretically here, this premeditated crime, hes gonna trust a handgun thats come off the street that he hasnt checked out, hes just unwrapped it from the sweatshirt and ...

That a felon, just out of the slammer would hook up with a recently retired state police officer and do this gun exchange. it just doesnt seem to make sense. it doesnt pass the sniff test. >> theres a lot of things about this case that doesnt make sense. >> if i were you i would have alarms going off inside my head. here you are, on probation, how do you know that this former cop is really a former cop and hes not setting you with a sting? >> although that did cross my mind and i had concerns ab...

Ive not ever had anything like that in my past. yes, ive been in possession of handguns. yes, when i was 20 years old, i did some armed robberies for cash. >> charles, let me put this to you directly, were you in the garage that night with a gun in your hand, taking car bomb of kim camm? >> no, sir. >> kids started to cry, i told you to shut up, shoot the wife when she comes after you? >> richard kammens theory is totally wrong, it never happened. >> in your panic, forget the sweatshirt, forget ...

>> this cant be happening. >> charles! >> after hours of denial, boney changed his story. yes, he did know david camm. they met playing pick up basketball. then in another round of questioning, the story changed, and changed again. finally, boney put himself at the crime scene. >> the reason why i was there was to bring him the gun. >> that night? >> that night. >> boney said david camm asked him to get an untraceable gun. he said that he was a guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. >>...

The $250 for the second weapon. >> boney says after a few minutes in the bronco, the wife and kids arrived and pulled into the garage. >> and what happens? >> i hear a little bit of commotion. it just sounds like somethings not right. it sounds like theyre arguing. and then, all of a sudden, i hear an immediate pop. and before i heard the "pop", i heard her say, "no," and it was -- a commanding, "no," like, "stop," and then, i heard a pop. then i heard the word, "daddy." >> two more pops followe...

He began threatening women at gunpoint. one incident involved three coeds. >> he had been watching them and one night, just walked into their apartment, held them at gunpoint to their head, took them out, kidnapped them to the car. luckily, somebody saw him with the gun leading the women out, called bloomington police department. >> he pleaded guilty again and was sentenced to 20-years in prison for armed robbery, but was released after serving only seven years. by july 2000, three months before...

>> david boney continued and then told him he used to be a state trooper. >> at the end of that day, did you know him by name? >> no, i didnt know his full name until our second chance meeting. >> that meeting was in september, boney said, about a week or so before the murders. they ran into each other at a convenience store and got to talking in the parking lot. >> the gist of our conversation was about, "are you employed?" "are you staying out of trouble?" and then, it evolved into, "well, wha...