syria have launched one of their most daring assaults, seizing a major city. this time saddam hussein's hometown of tikrit, the city overrun just a day after insurgents took control of iraq's second biggest city, mosul. hundreds of thousands of residents are running from their homes. police have been laying down their arms, trying to change into civilian clothes, all in an effort to escape the worst carnage to strike iraq in nearly a decade. cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is "outfront." jim, this is stunning to imagine when you think about the time, the money, the lives that were spent on iraq, iraqi and american. where do things stand tonight? >> it is stunning. it's alarming, particularly how quickly it has straighted. these are major cities. mosul first, tikrit, saddam hussein's hometown. and they're getting closer to the capitol baghdad. and one of the big disappointments for u.s. officials, iraqi officials is that the iraqi security forces that the u.s. has been training at great expense for a number of years and really is the core of the u.s. strategy when it left iraq was to leave the country's security in their hands, they have not performed. as you mentioned, deserting, clearly not up at this stage to fighting back against these militants who you'll remember are even more radical than al qaeda. now, u.s. response so far limited to military support. you know, in terms of training, supplying arms to iraqi forces. they say they are considering other option. but i tell you, erin, those options will not include american boots on the ground. >> jim sciutto, thank you very much. just a disturbing and deeply depressing development there. in iraq as they approach baghdad. we are following breaking news out of the pentagon tonight. we're learning the final travel plans to bring sergeant bowe bergdahl back to the united states. an official says the transfer from a military hospital in germany to one in san antonio, texas could be incredibly soon. news of bergdahl's recovery comes as defense secretary chuck hagel went before congress and aggressively was forced to defend the swap of five taliban detainees for bergdahl. barbara starr is "outfront" with more on a shock revelation about bergdahl's history in the military. >> reporter: cnn has confirmed bowe bergdahl served for less than a month in the coast guard before later joining the army. military sources would only call it an administrative discharge. tonight his friends tell "the washington post" bergdahl left the coast guard because he was psychologically troubled. cnn has not independently confirmed those accounts. but journals and e-mails friends gave to the post, the post says appear to paint a picture of a fragile young man trying to maintain mental stability. bergdahl apparently writing at one point "i've spent a lot of my life thinking blackness was all i had in front of me." >> i tell you what -- >> the doctors -- >> on capitol hill today, defense secretary chuck hagel angrily defended why bergdahl is still in the hospital 12 days after being released from five years in taliban captivity. >> you're trying to tell me that he is being held in landstuhl, germany, because of his medical condition? >> congressman, i hope you're not implying anything other than that. >> i'm just asking the question, mr. secretary. >> i'm going to give you an answer. i don't like the implication. >> answer it. answer it. >> hagel offering one mea culpa to congress. >> we could have done a better job. we could have done a better job of keeping you informed. >> reporter: and defending against accusations about why congress wasn't informed of the trade. >> by the way, i never said that i don't trust congress. that's your words. >> yes you did. yes you have. over and over. >> mr. secretary, mr. secretary. >> congressman -- >> hagel revealing the administration's intelligence concluded the five taliban, some tied to al qaeda, don't pose a direct threat to the u.s. >> their focus would almost certainly be on taliban efforts inside afghanistan. not the homeland of the united states. >> reporter: but there was a moment suggesting everyone take a deep breath. >> and i would just ask us to think for a moment how we would be responding if bowe bergdahl was our son. i really fear for his return to this country with the kind of rhetoric that is being spewed in this very room. >> reporter: barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> and congressman jackie speier of california, you just heard her there expressing her concern about what is being said to describe bergdahl is "outfront." good to have you with us, congresswoman. when you said you fear what might happen to him hen he comes back to the united states, what did you mean? >> i'm very concerned that there will be efforts to try him in the court of public discussion as opposed to giving him all of the opportunities, all of the due process that he deserves and very much the health care. it's medical, it's psychological. he has been in captivity for five years. he appears to have been fragile even before then. we need to establish a little compassion here. >> it's obviously an important word, and i think meaningful when you said what it f it was our son, make people think about it that way. but, of course, you know there are soldiers who said they served with bergdahl. they have come forward. they called him a deserter. there are some who say that some of their sons, they believe lost their lives looking for bergdahl. do you -- don't you think they've had a right to say all these things? >> i think that we are a country in which everyone is innocent until proven guilty for starters. i think that the jury is still out in terms of whether or not anyone, any military member lost their life in anticipation of locating sergeant bergdahl. and i think that we really need to take a step back and recognize that we have one very strong commitment, and that is to bring every single service member home. and that's what we're doing with bowe bergdahl. and we are -- have to give him the time and the space to recover. >> cnn has learned, congresswoman, that bergdahl served less than a month in the coast guard, and then he joined the army. according to "the washington post," he left the coast guard because he was psychologically troubled, used the word fragile. if that's true, how it is that someone who would be struggling psychologically and only served a month in another branch of the armed forces be able to actually join the army? >> i think that goes back to what was happening in 2008. there were many, many people that were allowed to join the military that had records that under other circumstances would have prevented them as being unfit. whether it was having sexual fault background or having been convicted of some minor offense. under normal circumstances, they would not have been allowed to become members of the military. so in this case, his situation was such that i think they waived him in. >> congresswoman, i was just in doha the day before yesterday. everyone i spoke to there had no concern about the taliban living there among them. they didn't present this in an anti-american way, but they had absolutely no problem with it. secretary hagel says the five detainees are not a threat to the united states. but obviously there have been some in national security who said they are. your colleague, senator joe manchin among them. he said he is concerned they could be back in a position to do harm to americans. was this deal worth it? >> i think when we take -- if we start weighing whether or not it's valuable to bring back one of our soldiers that has been held in captivity, who has been a p.o.w. -- >> even if these five cost more american lives in the future? >> well, i think what we've got to make sure, and that's what a classified briefing is going to provide us, which we haven't had yet is what steps are being taken to make sure that doesn't happen. >> all right, well, congresswoman, thank you very much for taking the time tonight. >> thank you. >> congresswoman jackie speier saying it was much too early to rush to judge, defending bowe bergdahl. still to come, is gun violence really the norm? president obama used those words. but we investigated. do the numbers back that claim up? plus, paula deen's comeback. it is now complete? a year after her "n" word scandal, she has her sights set on an entirely new network. and every elevator passenger's worst nightmare coming true for this man. tonight, if this happened to you, what to do. ♪ the last four hours have seen... one child fail to get to the air sickness bag in time. another left his shoes on the plane... his shoes! and a third simply doesn't want to be here. ♪ until now... until right booking now. ♪ planet earth's number one accomodation site booking.com booking.yeah! means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing.g, and when weather hits, it's data mayhem. but airlines running hp end-to-end solutions are always calm during a storm. so if your business deals with the unexpected, hp big data and cloud solutions make sure you always know what's coming - and are ready for it. make it matter. all stations come over to mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. tonight new details on the deadlying at an oregon high school. police found the gunman as 15-year-old jared padgett. he came to school with handguns, knives and a paper bag with nine loaded magazines. a teacher struck was able to run away and initiate the lockdown that likely saved countless lives, an act of heroism. this is the latest in a long string of shootings in recent weeks. president obama says it's becoming the norm. he threw out some very specific numbers. but just how common is in? david mattingly is "outfront." [ siren ] >> reporter: may 23rd, a man kills three with a knife, shoots and kills three more, and wounds 13 near a college campus in santa barbara, california. a grieving father makes an emotional plea. >> when will enough people say stop this madness. we don't have to live like this. too many have died. we should say to ourselves not one more. >> reporter: and yet in less than three weeks, two more school shootings in the u.s. and three more dead. since december 2012 when 20 children and six adults were shot to death at sandy hook elementary in connecticut, there have been 15 similar incidents. that's an average of one every five weeks. shootings on school property or targeting students, teachers, or administrators. >> the country has to do some soul-searching about this. this is becoming the norm. and we take it for granted. in ways that as a parent are terrifying to me. >> reporter: one group every town for gun safety reports 74 incidents of gun violence of all sorts at or around american colleges since newtown. >> what we see is that newtown, which we once thought was an exception is becoming the norm. and i think that what we are understanding is that it could happen to anybody. >> reporter: a recent report by a law enforcement training group found that the number of mass shootings in general, or active shooter events increased from an average of about five a year prior to 2009 to 15 in 2013. the fbi described the findings as part of the growing evidence that citizens must have in sight on how to respond. >> the chances of them happening are very low in probability. however, they're extremely high consequence, meaning if it does happen in your community, if it happens in any community, the consequences are very high. people -- lives are lost. children are murdered. >> help, help! >> reporter: that's why you see training like this becoming more common. teachers learning how to defend their classrooms. an ongoing and growing sense of vulnerability possibly made worse by anguished by seemingly futile demands of not one more. david mattingly, cnn, atlanta. >> as he said, increasingly futile demands for not one more. "outfront" tonight john avlon. futile is the right word that david used because whatever you think about guns, most americans whether they're for having guns, have guns themselves or don't believe in things like background checks, things like, that which politically is not happening. >> that's right. erin, look. right after the newtown shooting, we saw this debate this the senate. we talked about it a lot at that time. a poll showed that 91% of americans supported a background check that would simply check commercial sales for mental illness or criminal record. pretty common sense stuff. 90% of americans don't agree on anything. and even then we couldn't get a basic bipartisan bill through congress. it got filibustered. 40 republicans and five democrats opposed. so if question is if not in the wake of that tragedy, do we get desensitized or at some point do we demand we do something about it? it's totally within our power to do that. that is not infringing on the second amendment. >> the fact is the rate of the events has accelerated since then which shocks people. joe manchin obviously took this issue on background checks, very pro guns, but was able to get democrats on board. i asked him last night. now we're here. are you going to bring this back before the senate again? >> if we can't pass this, my goodness, i don't know what it's going to take to pass something today. but the bottom line is can it come back up? do we have five more votes? will five people basically look at what is happening in america today thinking that we can take common sense approaches and not really take away anyone's rights. >> and are you going to try to get those five votes now? >> we've been talking and trying all along. we have never given up. >> all right. he has never given up. but it didn't sound to me as if this was yes, this is my moment. it sounded to me like a guy who is exasperated. >> it sounds like a guy on capitol hill in election year and looking at nothing but gridlock. look, these faces were gutless wonders in the face of newtown. they were intimidated by the gun lobby and convinced to ignore the will of 91% of the american people. unless those folks have a change of heart or all of the sudden this starts affecting them in a personal way that causes them to get the courage to stand up to the gun lobby, we're not going to see a sea change in this. but the american people's attitude on this hasn't changed. this is not something that infringes on the second amendment. this is something that scalia even laid out. >> this issing in that the nra supported itself. >> exactly, in the past. we have regressed on this issue and put ourselves in a straitjacket, an ideological straitjacket that says we cannot pass reasonable gun legislation. joe manchin went to pat toomey to pass that bill and pat toomey admitted was too many people on the republican side of the isle didn't want to do anything that president obama backed. so that poisonous polarization directly leads to this impasse while the death toll keeps piling up. >> john avlon, thank you. and talking than poisonous situation, it just got a lot worse. one of the biggest political upsets of all time is one of the biggest stories tonight. an unknown college professor taking down the house majority leader. how did he do it? 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all right. all jokes aside, she went through this issue with the "n" word. people thought that her career was over. then they said well, it's just going to be a niche audience. now she is coming out with this whole online digital channel. as she said, you're going see all of me. how smart is the move? >> i think it was her only alternative actually. someone who had the kind of fall she had, they're not going to get another television platform. all of her sponsors deserted her. i think this is a smart play for her and the only play for her. >> can she make a lot of money doing this? you find your own sponsors. now you have subscriptions, right? i'm thinking of people who lost all their advertisers. glenn beck, for other reasons. so he left fox news. no he is at the blaze and making boatloads of money. >> glenn beck has a radio show, about 120 million listeners. it will be interesting to see if paula deen can get her friends, which is a much smaller fan base than glenn beck and the casual cooking viewer to pay some sort of monthly subscription fee. i'm not sure that she is going to be making boatloads, but beck made about 40 million in his first year. >> i mean, but that's abl an incredible amount of money, even if she only made a faction of that, we're talking about an incredible amount of money. >> it is. but there is a lot of cooking content on television. she doesn't have the kind of rabid following that some of these other personalities who have launched internet ventures have. >> right. >> it will be an interesting test to see if someone who is more in sort of the lifestyle milieu can actually convert this into people ponying up x number of dollars every month for her. >> let me just play a quick and i'll tell everyone our audio on this is very low. you got to listen to her describe what she is going to do. >> they are going to see all of me. where in a network program, you have 22 minutes. there is really no editing, and what they're going to see, more of my family, more of my friends. i'm hoping to bring many of my fans here in the kitchen with me. >> that was an interview with "the wall street journal" lee hawkins. she is trying to bring in her family, her sons. kind of -- if it works, it's really smart. >> yeah. she is trying to make it more of a reality show, showing the behind the scenes, the paula deen family, the paula deen empirement she has to do that, because you have to have more content than a couple of cooking shows if you're going to charge people a monthly fee. >> i'm fascinated to see how it goes. all right. thank you very much. we appreciate it. and still "outfront," a political earthquake rocks the gop. one republican congressman fears they're becoming the party of ted cruz. he is "outfront" next. plus, who is dave brat, and how much of his victory does he owe to a dukes of hazzard star? 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>> it shocked me. it shocked everyone. i'm sure it shocked eric too. this really came out of nowhere. i've been in politics for a long time. but i don't think anyone sensed this coming. and it just shows how unpredictable the business is and how often politics does not always have a happy ending. >> do you think his step do you think from the position of house majority leader on july 31st is the right move? >> i think it is. eric realized first of all, it is a legislative agenda for the next two months and it's important that eric manage that and get through various bills he has already lined up. but for us to be effective going into the fall campaign, i think it is important to have it a permanent leader in there. i give eric credit. he did it voluntarily, entirely on his own. i think he felt it was better for the party, for him to finish up the business that is on the table right now. and as we go into labor day and the campaign, to have a new majority leader. >> so do you think it's time to throw in the towel and put in the most conservative person you can possibly find in the house, since that's what the election seemed to show? >> no, i don't think so. i think we have to wait for the full analysis. but this is one district. we can also look at kentucky, where mitch mcconnell won big. well can look out in idaho when mike simpson beat back a challenger by a large majority. again, it's a mixed. i would say one of the problems is when you're a leader such as eric was, part of his job is to travel all over the country. and that keeps you out of your district. >> all right. so you're being very diplomatic here. but this morning you said you can't allow eric's defeat to allow the ted cruzes and the rand pauls to take over the party. all right. and ted and rand i'm sure are out there celebrating right now. here is senator cruz earlier today. >> the voters of virginia have spoken loudly. and i think they have expressed a sentiment that is present across the country, which is that people are frustrated. they're frustrated with politicians in washington in both parties who aren't listening to them. >> all right. what he said there is absolutely true, right? i mean, that's a frustration that people have. how are you going to stop a ted cruz and a rand paul from rising in power now? >> well, first of all, by showing that ted cruz, for instance, is a fraud. last year he induced the congress to shut down the government, and after they did it, he couldn't deliver at all. basically, he said if the house shut down the government, he would be able to deliver in the senate the ending of obamacare. he knew from the beginning this was a fraud yet he went ahead and did it. to me he is dangerous to the party as rand paul. we have someone running around saying he is afraid the cia is going to be killing people in starbucks with drones. this is not the type of leadership we need. the republican party, you talk about frustration, our numbers never went lower than after ted cruz led the shutdown last fall. he is the worst thing that can happen to the republican party. people are frustrated. these are tough times. they need honest answer, honest leadership, not theed me is an man leadership type of ted cruz. >> who howe are you going to stop him? >> well, i'm appearing with you tonight. what more can i ask? i think it's important for republicans to go out, go on the media and not be intimidated and stand up to them. i'm in the tradition of ronald reagan, dwight eisenhower, as are most republicans and most republicans in the house. and we can't allow ourselves to be intimidated by people like ted cruz and rand paul who want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. >> am i right in translating part of what you're saying is that means you compromise, you do a debt deal, if you don't like the premise. but you still do some kind of a deal. that you work with the other side. >> you. to basically, you fight for your principles as hard as you can. but the american people have elected a republican house and a democratic senate. our job is to govern. and ronald reagan, he certainly made compromises as he compromised with tip o'neill when he had to. but at the end of ronald reagan's eight years, the country had moved significantly in the conservative direction. you're never going to get 100%. you have to be realistic and honest with the american people. what the american people are really frustrated with is false promises, and nobody makes more false promises than ted cruz. >> all right. before we go, everyone is saying part of the reason eric cantor lost is because he was willing to compromise on immigration reform, specifically, an issue that makes a lot of people's eyes glaze over, but there may be no more important one for this country and for economic recovery. does the loss of eric cantor based on immigration reform mean that that is completely dead? >> i think it certainly right now is on the back burner in the short-term. but also look at lindsey graham's race in south carolina. he was much more aggressive on immigration reform than eric was, and lindsey won very big. i think it could have been unique circumstances in eric's district. >> we're going to talk about some of those circumstances with a democratic, try to get democrats to vote in this coming up. thank you very much, congressman king. always good to talk to you. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in dana bash, our chief capitol hill correspondent along with commentator ben ferguson and the communications director for the republican national committee, sean spicer. sean, i want to start with you. you have peter king coming out and saying ted cruz is a fraud. this is what is going on in your party. anger, nasty words. it's not a good conversation for the gop. >> well, i think we are a party that is growing and on the move. and we have room for people like peter king and people like ted cruz. the only way we're going to continue to grow as a party is if we have a lot of voices in the party that continue to reach out to different elements of americans that are frustrated with what is going on in american, that want to grow the economy, that want to reduce the debt. the one thing i would point out to you, erin, and thing is important to sometimes take a step back and say where are we. >> yes. >> and it's this. i think regardless of what happened last night, it's a republican district that will be held by a republican. and we by all estimations right now we sit at 233 seats in the house of representatives. the nrcc, our sister committee that is in charge announced the drive for 245. we think we can get as many as 245 seats. and in the senate, we're on the verge of taking that over from the democrats. so with all the talk today about eric cantor, at the end of the day, we look at where we're headed as a party. it's growing in the house. it's growing in the senate. and i think that's a very positive sign for the party. so i would just argue that yes, there are some intraparty struggles that happen from time to time. but as peter king pointed out correctly, this is one district. and i think we have to look at every district and say what was the specific deal, what were the specific instances within that. but look at the party as a large and we're continuing to degree our numbers in the house and the senate. >> dana, what is interesting, though, eric cantor for a lot of people was not considered to be a moderate. all right. eric cantor was somebody who had flirted with the tea party a lot. now eric cantor is too moderate to remain in congress. it's a pretty incredible statement in some ways. and peter king coming out and calling ted cruz a fraud is not the kind of thing we are used to hearing. this shows a level of frustration and anger on capitol hill that is new. >> that's right. and look, i mean, sean knows this. democrats generally at least elected officials don't call each other frauds. they have divisions within their party, but they don't go that far. now i know sean will say this is a good thing because there is an active debate in the republican party. but it does speak to the big challenge. you said it, erin. eric cantor is no liberal. he is no moderate. he is really conservative, and for a very long time, up until maybe, you know, five minutes ago, he was really the liaison effectively between the leadership and the tea party. he was one of the people who tried to stop john boehner from making a deal, a big fiscal deal, which i know you were really focused on because he was worried about what it would do to the right wing of the party. so it is very, very difficult. it's not just that. there is so much more, particularly the whole question of politics 101, going home. >> ben, does this mean the rise of the tea party is now a big story again? because it was the death of the tea party a few months ago. >> sure. but ted cruz didn't win last night. you had a guy that won against eric cantor. and the reason why he won is because eric cantor became too obsessed with being the next speaker of the house. and he forgot the core of being connected with your district. and they didn't like the way they were being treated by him. he had a lot of staffers around him and a lot of people in the district were very arrogant. they were very cocky. they were very condescending to any new member of congress, especially hard-core conservatives. and that's why he lost his seat. i mean, look at peter king a moment ago. he didn't learn a darn thing from last night, which tells you why guys like him now are starting to lose control. it's because even when people are saying you're not paying attention to us, they come on tv and they mock their own colleagues. and that's why they're losing control of the base. the republican party is growing. it's just tea party guys that are coming in. and these guys are going out. >> sean, part of the reason they're mocking their -- the conservatives that are out there in their base is in order to govern, you have to pass laws. and thanks in part to some in the tea party, laws aren't getting passed. >> well, look, david brat won last night, and he made it very clear that he campaigned as a republican on republican principles. that he had some tea party support. but he didn't think it was major groups coming in. i think to ben's point, see right. it's getting back to your district, representing them. i think that there is frustration on both sides with what is and is not happening in washington. that's going to be a big issue. but i will say this. i don't mean to be off topic. but last night one of the things that got overlooked, you want to talk about problems, we are growing. that's a fact. you look in nevada, for example, a state that is a swing state controlled by the majority leader harry reid. none of the above won the democratic primary there. 23 i were a democrat and you look at some of the things overshadowed today, the democratic nominee for governor was none of the above. they actually have a choice there in nevada. and that's who won the top spot in the democratic nomination. so i sit back today and look and say okay, who would i rather have that problem with? i think we're in a good spot. i'm more concerned about what is going on their side. >> all right. well, that's your job to spin it like that as opposed to talking like the big divides on your side. a good effort there. dana, you were at eric cantor's press conference today. you had an exchange and i want to play a little bit of that, and then elaborate on that. here we go. >> you personally, i'm sure you've done some reflecting in the past 24 hours do you think that maybe you spent too much time here with your job as leader tending to your rank and file and not tending to your constituents back home? >> i was in my district every week. so there is a balance between holding a leadership position and serving constituents at home. but never was there a day did i not put the constituents of the 7th district of virginia first, and i will continue to do so. >> so ben, what is the bottom line for the tea party? >> well, the tea party needs to keep doing exactly what they're doing. smile, grin, get grassroots out there, and go after any state that they feel someone is not paying attention in their district. and eric cantor is proof that you didn't even need money. the guy only had $200,000. the article that summed it up for me was you had eric cantor spend almost $200,000 at two dinners at steak houses. and this guy's entire campaign was funded with $200,000. that should be the total story is that's how out of touch you are. and eric cantor may have slept in his bed at his house in the district, but he didn't humble himself and go talk to the people that were disgruntled. he didn't go to the kiwanis meetings. he didn't meet with the tea party people. he didn't meet with people who were upset with him, because he thought he was better than they were. they sent him packing. everyone should take notice today like peter king. if they don't, they're going to be in trouble too. >> the one thing i will say to that, just talking to eric cantor and his people today is in his defense, he would argue it's not that he felt he was better than they were. it's that he had another big job here, which i mean, the irony of all ironies is that he wasn't down in his district on primary day. he was here in the capital, maybe it was a mistake. one of the things he was doing in the washington area is having a fundraiser for other members of congress. he spent a lot of time doing the things you need to do as a leader, and that includes helping other members while in his backyard didn't do enough. >> thanks to all three of you. and the question is, who took down eric cantor? 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well, joe johns found out. >> reporter: the surprise of the year in american politics was pulled off by a guy who did not expect to win. >> this is the happiest moment obviously of my life. >> reporter: he was as unprepared for victory as he was for the tough questions. when asked about arming the rebels in syria, this is how he responded. >> i thought we were just going to chat today about the celebratory aspect. >> reporter: following that sudden stumble, the candidate's two-person paid staff reversed plans for an afternoon news conference, saying instead they would issue a statement. it was a chilly welcome to national politics for a college economics professor who has never held office. he teaches at randolph macon college, the same school where his democratic opponent is on the faculty. he will face jack trammel in the fall election. his fundraising was dwarfed by eric cantor's. the that's about the same amount the campaign spent in steak houses according to "the new york times." what may have helped most was cantor himself whose disconnect led to his downfall. >> i honestly wasn't very impressed. a little too extremist. >> that's kind of a lose-lose situation. >> i'm happy that cantor lost, but not sure how happy about the guy who won. >> some of the students have already weighed in. on a website, he was rated with a glowing red chili pepper for good looks, one even called him eye candy. joe johns, cnn, virginia. >> at least one democrat is claiming victory. you heard me right, ben jones who starred in "dukes of hazard", he ran against him in to 2002. he lost that race but he sent a letter urging democrats and libertarians to cast a vote because it's an open primary. the congress has sunk to its lowest standing in history. eric cantor should not be rewarded with another term. the former congressman joins me now. appreciate you're taking the time. let me just ask you a little more than 10% of the electorate voted. brat, 36,000 votes. cantor, 29,000. do you think your message helped him win? >> what defeated eric cantor was hubris. he got above his raisin. . he got too big for his britches and treated a republican candidate and a guy like david brat as if he was a radical democrat leftist or something. and it was -- it brought him down. i think people looked at him and said, you know, he's been on the job too long. but it was a coalition. david brat gets all the credit for taking it on. amazing thing that he did. >> i'm curious though because people are trying to determine is this a sign of the rise of the far right or is it something else? >> this was a coalition. i said that. everybody was -- the republican party, mainstream republicans, if such exists, moderate republicans, independents, libertarians, tea party, everybody got in there and just got rid of this guy. it was an open primary, but it was to the general election. whoever won that election was going to be the congressman. so democrat hs to get over there. it's legal to do so. it's their right to do so and help out. >> i should note turnout was higher in the republican presipgpr precinpr precinc precincts. you were in congress at a time when people worked together. now that's become a dirty word. by bringing someone even further to the right, you may have fewer laws out of washington. is that a win? >> no, that's a silly statement really, erin. these people are polarized. the system is broken. it's gone. it's not representing the american people. it represents a coalition of special interests on the left and special interests on the right and they think they know everything there is and is pulling this country apart and nobody in the news media, not this program, not any of the networks or talking heads, the pundits, the people in the national kmees or the parties, nobody gave this guy a chance. this was a victory for the people. and as a hopeful sign that maybe people can work together and create a way to move this country ahead. >> thank you very much, appreciate it. ben jones joining us there, former congressman from georgia who had run against eric cantor. still to come, every elevator passenger's worst nightmare. are the largest targets in the world, for every hacker, crook and nuisance in the world. but systems policed by hp's cyber security team are constantly monitored for threats. outside and in. that's why hp reports and helps neutralize more intrusions than anyone... in the world. if hp security solutions can help keep the world's largest organizations safe, they can keep yours safe, too. make it matter. the clean air act stops polluters from... poisoning his air with arsenic, lead and mercury. now the loop hole that lets them pump unlimited carbon... pollution into his air is closing too. if polluters and their friends in washington don't interfere. don't let polluters weaken our clean air protections. 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israel's security cabinet set to meet in a few hours to review a proposal put forward by egypt that would end the fighting with hamas. israeli officials say the proposal is being taken very seriously, but as for hamas, not so much. >> i don't believe that this is a political thing to be done. it's close to be a joke. >> a joke. well, u.s. officials tell cnn that the secretary of state john kerry is preparing a possible trip to the middle east as well to try to be a part of brokering this deal. we'll have much more on this coming up with the former israeli ambassador to the united states. first, i want to go straight to the ground. reports tonight from both sides of the conflict. as you can see, wolf blitzer is in jerusalem, ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. wolf, i want to start with you. what's been the reaction there to the news of a possible cease-fire? >> reporter: i think the israelis are welcoming the news. they're going to meet, as you point out, in special session. the security cabinet. they're going to meet first thing as you correctly also point out within the next few hours, first thing tuesday morning israel time. they're going to review it. i think they like what they're seeing so far. the palestinian authority likes what they're seeing. hamas not so much. this has been a pretty dramatic day, but there's a little bit of light now at the end of this tunnel. tonight, a steady pounding on both sides of the border. i was waiting in a sealed border checkpoint with our crew when we had to duck for cover. >> we just heard shots. we're not exactly sure what's going on, but you can see one israeli soldier over there collapsed. did we get the all clear? okay. a young israeli woman soldier clearly was traumatized. she fell to the ground and started to cry. you don't often see that. later she told me it's been really, really hard, especially on these young 18, 19-year-old soldiers who come here on the border and hear these rockets going off. israel now says about 1,000 rockets have been fired from gaza. some of them intercepted by israel's iron dome defense system, including this one while we were in the border city. but another rocket made it through, damaging cars and this man's neighborhood. >> and i heard very strong boom around here. everything shook. things in my house fell. i peeked from the door and i saw the dust going this way, so i understood it was very, very close by. >> reporter: hamas is showing off another weapon in its arsenal, claiming this video is of drones built by its military wing. israel says it shot down a drone spotted along its coastline. israeli forces massed at the gaza border, and striking from the air, hammering what israel calls terror targets, about 1500 strikes so far. the palestinian death toll is rising. this funeral for a father and son. u.n. officials say 70% of the dead in gaza are civilians, including more than 30 children, and two women were killed when an israeli air strike hit a center for the disabled. a u.n. agency says 17,000 refugees now are taking shelter in 20 schools in gaza. and i think the israeli cabinet, there will be divisions, erin, within the israeli cabinet between some who were more hard line than others. i spuspect, though, the israeli cabinet will come out and accept this egyptian proposal more or less. then the burden will be on hamas to go ahead and accept it as well to stop the fighting, stop the deaths. as you know, so many people have been killed in gaza. so far in israel, there have been injuries but no deaths. >> all right, wolf, thank you very much. as wolf said, 70% of those killed on the palestinian side have been civilians, more than 160 people killed. ben wedeman is in gaza city tonight. ben, the word out of hamas that we heard is, quote unquote, close to a joke in terms of a cease-fire. >> reporter: yes, we heard from other hamas spokesmen as well saying that simply they are not going to go for a cease-fire unless their conditions are met. another spokesman saying that hamas will have the final word regarding an end to hostilities. so on the one hand, a negative response so far from hamas. among ordinary people here in gaza, there was relief when word came out. many people exhausted after now seven days of these constant air strikes. it's important to keep in mind that there are at least according to the united nations 17,000 people who have fled the northern part of gaza, having seen these leaflets dropped by the israeli air force, demanding -- rather ordering them to leave. they're holding up in schools and whatnot, conditions very bad. so people were really hoping that there would be an end to these hostilities, but it looks like hamas is still holding out. the belief is that despite all the rockets they have fired into israel, they still have nothing to show for it in terms of any sort of equivalent damage on the israeli side to what has been inflicted upon gaza. erin. >> ben, thank you very much. you know, earlier i spoke with the former israeli ambassador to the united states, he's now a middle eastern analyst for us, and i asked him whether he thinks the cease-fire could hold despite hamas calling it a joke. >> well, a lot depends on what are the terms of the cease-fire. in contrast to past rounds of fighting between israel and hamas when the secretary of state, like secretary of state clinton came to this area and shuttled back and forth and worked out every detail of a mediation of a cease-fire agreement, this time the egyptians are announcing in advance there's going to be a cease-fire and then negotiations are going to begin. there are reports in another 48 hours the egyptians will invite to cairo, israeli representatives, american representatives, perhaps representatives of other arab states and the palestinians to sit and work out this arrangement. it seems rather doubtful. israelis, i can tell you, are very opposed to going back to the situation that existed prior to this round of fighting which enabled hamas to build up a huge arsenal under the cover of a cease-fire. >> the united nations says 70% of the fatalities in this latest conflict have been civilians. 185 palestinians have been killed in a week because of israeli air strikes. more than 30 of those were children. there haven't been fatalities on the israeli side. do israel's tactics concern you when you see those statistics? >> well, they concern me as a citizen of the state of israel, not a spokesman for its government anymore. but insofar as it poses a diplomatic challenge, a humanitarian challenge to the state of israel. but i don't think israelis are going to regret the fact that fatality rates or casualty rates aren't higher on the israeli side and certainly not going to apologize for not having more fatalities on the israeli side. the fact of the matter is israel has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in defense, both civil defense and anti-missile defense, whereas hamas has invested all of its money in offensive missiles and invested absolutely nothing in civil defense. >> does that justify, though, the fact that women and children have lost their lives? >> any death in a battlefield of an innocent civilian, whether palestinian or israeli, is regrettable. but israel is a country that is being hit now over the course of one week by roughly a thousand rockets. most of the israeli population has had to run to bomb shelters repeatedly. i have had to run to a bomb shelter even today in my tel aviv home. our houses have bomb shelters. so any country, if 250 million americans were under rocket fire, even if none of them were being killed, the american government would respond in any way it had to. you're dealing with an enemy in the form of hamas who hides beneath a civilian population. notice very few hamas commanders have been killed. where are they? they're underground hiding beneath the civilians. so it's a huge ethical and military challenge for israel. >> "the wall street journal" has cited u.s. security analysts. and the quote is the breadth of global instability now unfold has not been seen since the late 1970s. republican senator john mccain here in the u.s. and other critics blame president obama for this. here's john mccain. >> i do believe that the things we're seeing in the world today in greater turmoil than in any time in my lifetime is a direct result of an absence of american leadership. >> does the u.s. have a leadership problem? >> i think the american people have to answer the question what role they want to play in the world today. my experience of being ambassador from israel for the last nearly five years was that this is not necessarily about the position of one leader, whether it be the president of the united states or senator mccain. american people are tired after two very traumatic and long wars in the middle east, prolonged economic crisis. and i know from that experience last summer when there's a question of whether america was going to respond to the chemical use -- the use of chemical weapons by the syrian regime by firing rockets into damascus, when president obama suggested that, the phone calls against using american force in syria was something between either 100 against to 1 in favor or 600 against to 1 in favor in both houses of congress and in both parties. so it's really about where the american people are and the decisions they have to make about their leadership role in the world. >> thank you very much, ambassador. we appreciate your time, as always. >> always good to be with you, erin. outfront next, america's most famous undocumented immigrant live from the u.s. texas border tonight. border security is surrounding him. will he get are deported? 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>> well, first of all, we came out here. i mean i came out here last thursday to stand in solidarity with all these children, right? this is a humanitarian crisis that everybody, including governor perry, has politicizing. and there isn't enough about humanity that we should be talking about. having met some of these kids, i dare any congressional member, the president to look in the eyes of these children and tell them they're going to be sent back. i dare them to look in the eyes of these children. once you see them, how can you send them back? >> maybe that's part of the reason the president doesn't want to go to the border. do you think that then the answer is to keep all of these kids who don't have anyone to take care of them? is that the solution? >> we are not a country -- america is not a country that turns its back on children. that's not who we are as a country. you know, i don't want to bring race into this, but if these were white kids would we be doing this to the kids? here's my question to the congress. is this congress really prepared to be the only piece of legislation that they pass is legislation that deports kids? is that the only legislation they're going to pass? >> so what should they do then? >> well, i think there's got to be a process in which we listen to the stories of these kids. you know, to me, the story that no one is talking about is the generosity of people here in mcallen. we're standing near the shelter here. the generosity of people all across texas and all across the country that want to take these children in. i have to tell you, erin, when i got here last thursday, i've never been to the texas border so i never realized what it's like to be undocumented here in texas at the border. i met a woman named tonya chavez. she said to me how are you going to get out? i'm like what are you talking about? tonya, you've been trapped here since you were how old? >> i was 14 years old when i came into the united states and ever since i've been confined to the boundaries of what the border looks like of what the rio grande valley is like. on the south side we have international bridges and on the north side we have the checkpoints. there's several checkpoints. >> you can't get out. so all these people standing next to us, they have been confined to that checkpoint and people don't know that. i don't think governor perry even realizes that. am i right, tonya? >> yes. one thing i want to ask president obama is there's so many undocumented individuals in the rio grande valley that i think we deserve the attention he hasn't given us for many, many years. when we arrive there are pieces of legislation they never take into account the undocumented immigrants confined to the boundaries of the checkpoint. this, we are segregated from an entire nation. we can go visit our family up north beyond the checkpoint even though we live in america. we live in the united states. i am an american but an undocumented american. >> tonya makes a very powerful case but this is the question. if the united states says we're going to let all these people go visit their families, many of them may not return back to the border or take all of these kids. aren't you sending a message everybody can come? and that may not be realistic for this country to let everybody come in. >> well, the message -- erin, we are a country of laws but also a country of morality, right? we have to figure out a way that we can humanely have a process to let people see their family. you know, it's really interesting being around here, right, looking at all the border security. this is a militaryized zone. i went to the starbucks to get coffee and there's border patrol agents everywhere. i'm thinking they're here because of me. are we a threat? are we a national security threat? are all these billions of dollars on border security being spent because of us? >> what about your situation in particular? are you daring people to arrest you and deport you? i would say they are not going to. you're a pulitzer prize winner and plushd a lot of things, but is that your goal down there? >> well, but erin why the double standard? when i outed myself my goal is to say i'm one of the 11 million people. i'm not asking for special treatment. i'm not asking for any double standard, the government is doing that. my fate is tied to everybody else in this exact same situation. we've done way too much politicizing and not enough finding a solution on this issue. the question here is how do you define american. that's the question. >> that's a big question. thank you very much, jose antonio, we appreciate you being here tonight. >> thanks for having us, thus. still to come, even less leg room on your next flight. some planes are about to get even more seats because you had so much room to begin with they're going fit more seats in. and harsh words for critics of the obama administration. attorney general eric holder says people criticizing the president are doing it because they're racist. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. but hurry, offers end july 31st. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. offers end july 31st. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis them. was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. make the most of every moment. ask your dermatologist about humira, today. clearer skin is possible. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance... ...and we'll replace destroyed or stolen items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ that's why i always choose the fastest intern.r slow. the fastest printer. the fastest lunch. turkey club. the fastest pencil sharpener. the fastest elevator. the fastest speed dial. the fastest office plant. so why wouldn't i choose the fastest wifi? 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>> i think basically what it will do is maintain the status quo. the reason that i say that is because it's technically a new model, but it's the a-330, which is currently airbus' model that's most directly competitive to the dreamliner. what they're doing is they're going to make some aerodynamic tweaks to it, give it new engines and roll out the a-330 neo which stands for new engine option. it will be more fuel efficient. this will give it another decade, maybe two decades of life where they were going to have to stop production. >> ben, before you go, there's this amazing story today that you can go, you know, to china in a couple of hours from the u.s. you fly up to 50,000 feet basically in space, get launched into the high atmosphere and then you just basically pop up and then you pop down and you could go 2500 miles an hour. i mean this is pretty incredible. you know, do you think this is going to happen? some engineers are saying this is well. you can get to beijing in two hours. >> it sounds amazing, right? i talked to richard branson about this about a year and a half ago and he's one of the biggest pro opponents of this. i think it will eventually happen. i think a lot of the estimates i've seen about when, i don't think that we'll see it soon but we will -- i'll say -- we may not see it before i retire but i may see it before i die. how's that for a timeline. >> you're a young guy so it's a long time. >> yes. >> but it is pretty incredible to imagine. >> but it would work in theory. imagine once it becomes possible, you're still going to need the facilities to accommodate this. you're not going to be some rich dude or some rich lady buying a ticket to space and plopping down into the pacific ocean outside of sydney, you'll need facilities. so there is some work to do on this yet. >> all right, ben, thanks. still outfront, barack obama's top law enforcement official firing back at people who criticize the president, saying they oppose him because he's black. plus the prostitute linked to a google executive's death about to be formally charged and some of the people who know her best are outfront tonight. and richest selfie ever. how a teenager nabbed a photo of a billionaire and a music legend billionaire. 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that's what attorney general eric holder suggested in an interview with abc news. >> there's a certain level of veem hence it seems to me directed at me, directed at the president. you know, people talk about taking their country back. i can't look into people's hearts, look into people's minds, but it seems to me that this president has been treated differently than others. there's a certain racial component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing that's a main driver, but for some there's a racial animus. >> joining me now, cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and calm tarot greg anthony and ben ferguson. sunny, let me start with you. the expression here "take your country back" that's what the attorney general specifically referred. to is that expression racist? >> i think it can be, depending on the context, but we've heard it in all different contexts, right? but i think his main point was that there has been this level of vitriol, this level of aggression towards our president, towards the office, towards our attorney general that does have a racial component. anyone that says that there hasn't been that racial component is simply naive. remember, this is the same president that they claimed was born in kenya and was a kenyan citizen, asking for his birth certificate, asking for his law school transcript, asking for his college grades. you know, jan brewer is waving her finger in his face. these are actions in my view that no question -- >> you don't think would have happened to a white president. >> of course not, and they speak to the issue of race that we have in this country. >> greg, let me ask you about what rush limbaugh -- he weighed in on this and he said he's always believed any criticisms of the president would be met with charges of racism and basically implying this is how they try to shut people up criticizing the president. here's how he put it. >> president of the united states, attorney general of the united states, all poor guys, poor victims of a mean racist america. they point fingers at these mysterious, evil forces and then claim not to know what's in their hearts. and then they talk about, oh, yeah, when i hear i want my country -- or when i hear "take back my country" that's code language, said holder. i know i'm listening to a racist bigot. >> greg, is limbaugh's criticism fair? >> to a certain extent, and i understand what sunny was saying earlier. listen, there's no doubt that racism exists, but it's not the permeating factor in this case. i say that because had racism been so pervasive in our society, we wouldn't have an african-american president elected twice. we wouldn't have an attorney general who was put in office by that president. we wouldn't have had a secretary of state prior in condoleezza rice. so while it exists, it's still a fringe element. and for the most people who are racist, they're ignorant. and as an african-american -- well, as an african-american, listen, ideal with people every day in my profession who don't like me. some might not like me because i'm black. others don't like me just because they don't like me. that's always a part of it. ultimately, you don't do the job of attorney general or the job of president -- of being president any justice by making those claims and stoking those -- that hatred. you basically let those guys win. >> so you should just ignore it? >> you ignore them. you're above them. >> but that's the problem. >> sunny. >> that's the problem in our country. i think that we shy away from talking about race. we shy away from the fact that this is happening. there is this coded language. there is this vitriol against the president. >> it's not coded. >> it has become personal and there's this sort of dog whistle that, greg, you and i both know as people that live in black skin knows what they are saying when they say "take our country back." give me your birth certificate. come on. >> time out, time out, time out. i've heard people say it's time to take our country back when bill clinton was hooking up with monica lewinsky. where was the race involved then? i heard it after al gore was running for office saying take our country back because they didn't want another eight years of al gore and bill clinton so no one was claiming racism then. >> ben, hold on for one second. to your point, i want to play times people have said take our country back and let's talk about the context. >> sure. >> we are going to take our country back. >> we've done all that we can to take our country back. >> millions of americans are standing up saying we want our country back. >> today we stand in common purpose to take our country back! >> it is time to take back the country we love. >> they're all making the same point, ben, when the guys they don't like are in power, they want to take it back. >> which gets back to the core point of this. it's time for eric holder to grow up. you're the attorney general of the united states of america. >> what? >> yes, i said that and i'll explain it very clearly. >> please do. >> if you want to be an activist, if you want to be an activist, if you want to be an al sharpton, jesse jackson and stoke the flames, do it. when you're the attorney general of the united states of america you should act at a level above race baiting -- >> you see, ben, that's the problem. your problem is the problem that everyone has. when black people want to talk about race, want to confront the issue that we live with every single day, and it is an issue that the attorney general is dealing with and the president is dealing with, we are called racist, we are called race baiters and that has to end. that has to stop. we have to say this is happening and we have to talk about it. i don't need a time-out. >> hold on one second, listen -- that's also a part of the issue then. >> ben, go ahead and respond. >> no. you look at eric holder. he has a responsibility to be above the race baiting and stoking this flame. >> he's not race baiting. >> yes, he is. he absolutely is. >> so any time someone talks about what's going on -- >> where was -- when hillary clinton said take our country back, where were you and where was eric holder saying that was racist? you didn't say it was racist when hillary said it. why? because you liked her because she was a democrat. >> no, because context matters. because context matters. >> sunny, what's the context, though, in the take the country back when ted cruz said it that made it race is, for example? >> i think when you're talking about people like ted cruz whose politics are very well known, i think when you look at that context, it is clear to me at least that it's take our country back from a black president. >> and i think that -- >> and i think no one wants to call it what it is. >> okay, greg, go ahead. >> as an african-american and someone who is somewhat conservative, that perception does become a reality for african-americans. there's no doubt about it. we don't see and have the same definition for certain words. i understand that and i do agree in that instance, but the point where i also understand where ben is coming from, you do have to be above that at a certain point because ultimately my grandma used to tell me, she says, baby, you can't just be good, you have to be better. and she was referring to racism in the country that we live in. and the attorney general and the president in their positions, there's no reason to even allow that to enter -- that's where we should have that discussion, not the attorney general and not the president. >> sunny. >> i think that it's more important for those people to be able to say this is an issue. >> hold on, greg. >> without it having been called racist, though. we're not allowed to criticize them now. >> you are allowed to criticize -- >> the president or the attorney general if you don't agree with the policies or the implementation of them? >> a quick final word just because sunny is sitting next to me. isn't there something to be said that some people do hide behind that. they're criticizing so it must be because he's black. >> sure, but his statements are very clear. he's saying not everyone. it may not be the sole driver but it is a driver so that was the truth. he is limited in a sense in his remarks, but i think it's very important for people in those positions to come out and say, wow, i am the president of the united states. i am the attorney general of the united states, and this is an issue that is happening to me. what better person to come out and be honest and authentic and talk about this very real issue. >> thanks very much to all three of you. for all of our viewers, we want you to weigh in on this issue. i'm sure you feel the same passion our panel felt. citigroup has agreed to pay $7 billion. the justice department says they admitted to the misdeeds which shattered lives in, quote, great detail. citi is not the first bank to pay fines like these. the biggest banks paid $113 billion to settle various lawsuits. the money from citi will be divvied up, the bulk going towards penalties. $2.5 billion to help homeowners. paul leonard tells us there still isn't enough transparency with where the money is going to go and attorney general eric holder called the penalty appropriate. here's what he said about that. >> the bank's misconduct was egregious and under the terms of this settlement, the bank has admitted to its misdeeds in great detail. the bank's activities shattered lives and livelihoods throughout the country and also around the world. they contributed mightily to the financial crisis that devastated our economy in 2008. >> speaking of 2008, one of the programs that helped ease the pain was the bailout program. you may remember it known as t.a.r.p. that's my number tonight. 12%. that is the gain the u.s. treasury, that means we, the taxpayers, got from the bank bailout. the banks were profitable but the government lost more than $10 billion on the bailout of general motors. outfront next, the call girl about to be charged in connection with the death of a google executive. tonight we hear from her former roommate and the teenager who stumbled upon two billionaires sitting on a bench. looks like we're about to board. mm-hmm. i'm just comparing car insurance rates at progressive.com. is that where they show the other guys' rates, too? 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>> for the money. lots of money, she said. she said that they would just pick her up, take her on dates and buy her things, give her money. i asked her if she had to sleep with them because i was curious. she said she never did, but that's what they all say. >> reporter: according to her social media profile, tichelman studied journalism at georgia state university but never graduated. her father, bart tichelman, is the ceo of a california technology company, but she was living a very different life, slipping into prostitution. the 26-year-old had once claimed to be a makeup artist and had posted this video on youtube. >> it's going to take a little bit on a fluffy brush. >> reporter: as we now know, authorities are investigating whether she played a role in a second death. this one outside of atlanta, where tichelman's then boyfriend also died of a heroin overdose. it was ruled accidental, but authorities are reopening the investigation. >> dean hated smoking. he hated drinking and he most certainly hated drugs. i -- he was a man that was, you know, skeptical to even taking aspirin, let alone heroin. so do i believe that dean injected himself with heroin? absolutely not. >> reporter: that's her former live-in nanny who said she left because of tichelman's drug use and frequent outburst sdwls i really truly believe that alix may have something to do with this and i'm very happy and i'm very happy that they reopened this investigation. >> she'll next be in court on wednesday where she'll be arraigned on numerous charges, the most serious, of course, felony manslaughter. stacy hanowitz, what do you make of the heroin overdoses. dan spoke to someone who lived with her, and she said she was an addict herself? >> when you hear this other case, people are going to think, was this an accident or coincidence, have you to be able to reopen this case and look to see if there's a pattern of conduct. that's what most people are thinking, there's no way that these two people, these two men she was involved with, died the same way, and there wasn't some nefarious type of activity that went on. >> what would have been the motive? that's what i'm not 100% sure of. the complaint was just filed in terms of her bail, describes her parents of being wealthy. >> well, in all honesty, you know you've covered a lot of cases. you never know what the motive is behind certain things. >> sometimes you do. it's financial gain, so obvious right from the start. in this case it could be that she gets a thrill out of killing, it could be that these men didn't treat her well at a certain amount of time. we don't know, these are all things the investigators are going to try to figure out. that doesn't mean you can't prosecute a case because we can't figure out why somebody took part in a criminal act? >> i spoke to the diety police chief about this, and he said that there is a link when you look at these two men and how they died, i want to play exactly how he described it for you, stacy. >> you can see some parallels between these two stories here, you have individuals who are likely inexperienced at using this kind of a drug, and they're brought into it because of their relationship with ms. tickleman. >> what normally would happen in cases of drug overdoses? are drug dealers ever charged with murder? if that's the role she was playing? >> certainly, if you can prove, show that there was knowledge she was providing a lethal dose of the drug and it effectuated the death of that person? you can charge them, she's been charged with manslaughter, which is negligence, recklessness. you don't have to prove she wanted them to die. in patterned cases, we do have cases where there are patterns and we're able to link two cases together to figure out that this person is in fact responsible. that's what you're going to see here. you see it in sex crimes cases all the time where a child is molested. you go back and figure out, what happened to another individual, this happens in criminal cases, it's very usual, it's not unusual. we're going to have to see what unravels. >> stacy, thank you, good to talk to you as always. out front next, want to take a selfie with the rich and famous? 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paul and warren buffett look like they're sitting on a bench waiting for a bench. >> someone jokes they thought it was wax figures i took it with. of course he knew who both men were. who was a bigger thrill to see? >> definitely warren buffett. >> yeah, i think warren buffett. >> just kidding. and guess who retweeted the photo sir paul himself, saying, just hanging out with friends. ♪ i get by with a little help from my friends ♪ >> can't a guy just eat his ice cream without being put under the micro scope like some kind of beatle. ♪ jeanne moos, cnn new york. >> there's something about that pictures, just pretty incredible? seven minutes and they thought they might miss them. john paul, the co-founder of patron, born to immigrant parents and now he is one of america's richest people. how his upbringing shapes the way he sees the border crisis. that is out front. anderson cooper 360 starts right now. >> good evening, everyone, thanks for joining us, there is breaking news tonight. a cease-fire proposal between israel and hamas. we begin with a report you won't see anywhere else. it's where every child's dream comes true, where you're supposed to feel safe and kids can be kids. you'll want to pay close attention to our story. as you're getting ready to pack the family van and head to central florida's disney world, universal studios or sea world, you'll want to see what we found. a pattern of theme park employees arrested in sex stings in after work hours. >> reporter: they're people you would least expect, some are married with children.
donald trump winging his way back to new york today after a whirlwind trip of washington. began at 9:00 this morning over at the republican national committee, finished up after going to the national republican senatorial committee, to his attorney's office, then back to reagan airport for the trip back to new york city. he'll be appearing on sean hannity's show tonight. he will talk about what happened today. from talking to republicans who were in the meetings and people on the periphery, they all seem to think it was a very productive today. in particular, paul ryan who was the first person to meet with mr. trump this morning. suggested that it was a very positive meeting. that it is going to go some distance toward achieving party unity, if not before the convention in july at the very least, then before the election in november. now they didn't agree on everything, according to ryan, and he's not getting ready to endorse him, saying that's a process that's going to take longer than 45 minutes which what about the length of their meeting. but he did come away from it fairly optimistic. >> i think we had a very encouraging meeting. look, it is no secret that donald trump and i have had our differences. we talk about those differences today. that's common knowledge. the question is, what is it that we need to do to unify the republican party in all strains of conservative wings in the party. >> reporter: neither side went into today's meeting thinking it would be the be all/end all. the trump campaign was just happy to come away with the pledge to work together in the future. ryan's office saying they didn't expect any abracadabra moment. certainly there wasn't one of those. >> okay. so we kind of know where paul ryan is. what about the rest of the republicans? >> reporter: there were some encouraging statements. if you are a republican, you can look at these and say maybe they will be able to get things together if not by the convention, by november. one of the sticking points, what donald trump enveiled a few months ago, this idea of a ban on muslims. he walked that back a little bit last night, actually a fairly substantial amount when talking with our greta van susteren saying, well, there are going to be exceptions to this, i don't expect the ban would last very long. i'm going to appoint rudy giuliani to a commission to look into all of this. certainly that was a departure from donald trump and reince priebus, the chairman of the republican national committee. but here's what he told me a short time ago after hearing trump's modification to that language. >> well, i've made my own position pretty clear on that. i think so. listen, i think donald trump gets it. i think he understands about being presidential in tone and tenor. i'm confident of that. so i'm looking forward to moving forward. >> reporter: so what about the rest of the republican caucus in the conference here in the house and in the senate side? where are they? kathy mcmorris-rogers, the highest ranking woman didn't say she was on board the trump train. i asked how much of the republican caucus might go on donald trump's side, he said maybe 10% that doesn't but the rest probably will. >> john, thank you. will it be an uphill climb for donald trump to unite the gop? here's my question? does he even have to, to win? republican congressman chris collins says he's seen the division firsthand. he calls it baffling and troubling today. >> as i have said to more than one, are you voting for hillary clinton? and they say no. and i said, well, then you're voting for donald trump. no, i'm not going to vote. this is like the two president bushes. how an elected official can message to america "don't vote," i find that embarrassing for them. >> joining me now for real talk on this, california congressman duncan hunter, a donald trump supporter. i guess that would be the other alternative for republicans who are not going to get on the trump train, is that they would simply be messaging out to constituents -- don't vote. >> reporter: yeah, that's ridiculous and i don't think it is going to happen, gretchen. here's what just happened. i'm a big box is fan. this is like right after the big boxing fight, both guys have talked trash and now it's over, it's time to hug. i think the hugging is going to happen. i think you'll see the majority of members of congress come onboard. but guess what? donald trump doesn't need members of congress. donald trump doesn't need paul ryan. he's ran his campaign the way that he is as a person, as a man. that's what you're going to keep seeing. he's not going to change and there is no reason for donald trump to change his policy view to match people that were not elected by the majority of the american people throughout the entire country. >> there is so much to talk about today. i know you were inside of this meeting. i love your boxing analogy. what was inside talk going on there? >> well, paul ryan with the supporters meeting or the paul ryan/trump meeting? >> well, either one. you pick first. >> we had about eight of us together and talked to speaker ryan yesterday. said, hey, what's going on? frankly, we were confused. i was thinking paul ryan would have done a kind ceremonious endorsement of the republican nominee as opposed to what he did. i think it is a little bit of hubr hubris. i think that the republican message has been articulated by the speaker of the house, because we haven't had a republican nominee. so the speaker of the house has been the leader of the republican party de facto until now. and i think that's kind of a shock for some guys here in the washington, d.c. bubble that they're no longer the articulators of the republican message. it is going to be donald trump. no matter what you think of how articulate he is, he is the republican party leader right now because he won. >> yeah. i mean he's presumptive but, yes, it looks as if he will actually get the nomination, of course. so in your mind, trump has the l leverage here? he's holding the cards? my second part of the question is what you allude to just a few moments ago, does it matter if he doesn't get everyone together? >> yes, he has the leverage, and no, i don't think it matters. i think in the end, just like chris collins said, this is going to be a choice between trump or hillary clinton. that is it in the end. i don't think it matters who comes on board, who doesn't come on board. what matters in the end is that he gets more people to vote for him. that's what we're shooting for in november and once again, i think it actually helped donald trump when paul ryan did not endorse him. >> why? >> i think that helped him. that was donald trump saying, hey, i am not d.c. establishment, i am not more of the same of not getting anything done. i'm someone from the outside who's run companies, i have a totally different take on this. when a guy like paul ryan who -- i voted for paul ryan, i'm a paul ryan supporter for speaker. but paul ryan was a think tank guy, he was a staffer here in d.c. then he ran for congress and he's been in d.c. a long time. nothing wrong with that in terms of -- but he's a policy guy, too. so i don't think that trump needs him necessarily. >> i'm going to talk later on in the show who ever thought paul ryan would be called establishment. he was like 110% conservative. more on that later but congressman hunter, thank you. meantime, hillary clinton is using the discord among republicans to her advantage. trying to her. her camp pointing out the housing out the house speaker is not against -- >> is it safe to say it didn't take the collin camp long to react to today's big trump/ryan meeting? >> it is pretty apparent clinton's team in brooklyn was waiting for the speaker's news conference. when they did not hear a formal endorseme endorsement, the clinton campaign pounced saying, "donald trump has proven himself to be a loose cannon whose hateful language and dangerous policies will do serious lamp to working families and put america's security at risk, and republicans are continuing to acknowledge that a president trump would be too big a risk." so while clinton is in brooklyn for a meeting with hiv and aids activists this afternoon and doing some fund-raising, her team was quick to react. >> all right. so what is the method that clinton and her allies are using to try and continue these attacks on trump? >> well, they're using the many quotes or clips from republicans who have say they cannot support trump or won't vote for him throughout the bruising primary season. there were obviously plenty of tense moments and some prominent republicans backed away from mr. trump. today trump ally is encouraging his fellow republicans to back trump, but you can expect that there is plenty of material in the weeks and months ahead for democrats to use as we're looking at a live clip of the democrats to step to the podium. would not be surprising if they pulled some criticism of the trump out of their playbook, if you will, today to rip donald trump once again. but obviously a bruising primary on both sides has given plenty of material to the other side to use in the general election. >> mike emanuel, we just saw that live shot there waiting for democrats. we'll bring that to you if they say anything interesting. donald trump hoping to coax more republicans to his side. that was the mission today. well, some gop members still feeling torn while trying to decide where their loyalties lie. will trump's outreach today help or hurt his chances of unifying the party and does it matter? 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>> well, look. i think that what speaker ryan is trying to do is preserve his power as speaker of the house and send trump a message that he can't be taken for granted, especially if trump becomes president because all president expects members of congress from their own party to go along to get along and do what they say. because particularly there were such strong areas of policy disagreement between conservative republicans as identified by republicans like speaker ryan, versus trump's more populist approach, they need to find a way to understand each other that they have disagreements, but that they're going to need to work with each other. >> but here's the thing, david. the republicans really -- do they really have the leverage over trump? trump articles the nominee, doesn't he technically run the republican party then? so i mean, really, he's in charge, right? >> well, gretchen, you're right that they don't have leverage but they still have their vote. i don't think this is about leverage. i don't think you're going to get donald trump to change his behavior, his tone or the major policies that he's defined by. but what you can do, i think the only thing trump respects is power and strength. what you can do is send him a message that you aren't going to be taken for granted, and that while you are going to end up endorsing him as the leader of your party and the candidate for president, and while that you understand he is the head of the party and if he becomes president this sort of permanent head of the party for at least four years, that you are still going to have your own opinions, your own policies and you are not going to always agree with him and in future negotiations by setting the predicate now he is going to understand that you're not always goings to do what he wants. >> name one president where every other person in the party agreed with them on everything. >> here's the difference. what you're dealing with most house republicans -- not all but this is truth with the senate -- are republicans that believe in a particular kind conservative approach to governing. trump is is not there. he does in the agree with almost any of that. normally you're having -- normally it is more of a personality and a power struggle who is really going to be the leader. well, the president's obviously going to be the leader. but this is more than that. this is about deciding what does it mean to be a republican under trump. this is trump's idea. populist on immigration policies, trade policies, more isolationist on foreign policy. so what are these republicans going to do? for them to go along to get along would be to go against everything that they have believed in for years as public policymakers. that's why i think you are seeing this run differently. if they don't set the predicate now that you're going to have to deal with us as a co-equal branch of government, trump like every other president before him would run roughshod over them and treat them like lackeys and they would have no one to blame but yourself. >> i like your tweet. republicans elected on trump. we're staying together for the sake of the kids. >> that's pretty much what we're dealing with here. we pretty much don't see eye to eye but he is the nominee and there is pretty much nothing you can do about it but accept him. former vice president dan quayle calling trump "different." but in a good way. he also had some things to say about hillary clinton. our political panel debates that coming up. also the big showdown between rump and ryan doesn't seem to have suede the house speaker just yet but another big name ready to back the presumptive gop nominee. one congressman has a suggestion to get more of his colleagues on board. >> hopefully paul ryan, will move toward donald trump. but what donald could do is, donald could reach out to members of congress who also don't know him and senator and he could start to announce who his advisory teams are. bottom of the hour. fox news alert for you right now. republican leaders falling in line behind donald trump with two major endorsements making a big splash today. peter barnes, senior washington correspondent for the fox business network joins us now. >> reporter: gretchen, donald trump might have left washington, d.c. without an endorse. from paul ryan but is he getting an an doorsment from ryan's predecessor, john boehner. john boehner was speaking to a finance conference today and told the audience, anyone who thinks donald trump can't win, just watch. he told the audience that trump will be the nominee, like it or not. he's confident that trump can win against hillary clinton this fall. and he said that the meeting with ryan today was probably about trying to help shape the direction of trump's policies and boehner also said that he has no doubt there will be a meeting of the minds between ryan and trump. >> so, i said that there were two big endorsements. who's the other one? >> reporter: well, it's a little inside the beltway but there's something here called the national republican congressional committee and it helps raise a lot of money for house republicans in their races and their re-election races. and the chairman of that committee is greg waldon, congressman from oregon. he put out a statement today saying, "the last thing -- endorsing trump basically. saying the last thing i want to do is give the same obama/clinton/sanders philosophy another four years in charge. while i may disagree with the rhetoric mr. trump uses and some policy positions, he is a better the better option than hillary clinton in the white house. that's why all along i said i intend to support the gop nominee. so this is a formal endorsement from are greg walden. it looks like the guy in charge of raising a lot of money for the house republicans is falling in line with trump and trying to help unify his fellow republican around trump. >> that's a very interesting development today. thank you very much, peter. the aftermath of the first face to face meeting between presumptive nominee donald trump and house speaker paul ryan today with the speaker reacting more now to their sitdown. >> are you endorsing donald trump? if you're not, what is holding you back? do you really have a choice? i mean you've ruled out voting for hillary clinton, endorsing her. >> the process of unifying the republican party, which just finished a primary about a week ago, perhaps one of the most divisive primaries in memory, takes some time. >> tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, a grassroots organization funded by the koch brothers. great to have you back on "the real story." does paul ryan need to endorse donald trump? >> i think the onus actually is on mr. trump to earn the endorsement of paul ryan and folks across the conservative spectrum. >> why? >> because he has not put forward, gretchen, a conservative free market agenda. i think about the minimum wage issue, tax increases, government spending, entitlement reform. he does need to lay out an agenda that says i'm actually going to present a difference to hillary clinton if i'm elected. that's important for him to do, for any nominee to do. >> so your organization is affiliated with the koch brothers. a couple of weeks ago, charles koch said this about possibly -- possibly supporting hillary clinton. listen to this. >> so is it possible another clinton could be better than another republican? >> it's possible. >> next time around? >> it's possible. >> you couldn't see yourself supporting hillary clinton, could you? >> well, her -- we would have to believe her actions will be quite different than her rhetoric, let me put it that way. >> so that was big news when that happened. still the same feeling, do you think, now? >> i would never presume to speak for mr. koch. i can just say at americans for prosperity, we do want to see two things. one, a genuinely pfree market agenda from mr. trump. secondly, a tone that is going to actually be forward looking. >> are you in the group of the #nevertrump people then? >> no. we've said we're not involved in this point in the presidential. we have been in the past like in 2012. we advocated the defeat of barack obama. but we're pausing right now and looking to see what he's going to do and how it is going to develop. >> want to talk about something else that's big news in your organization today. the koch brothers launching an aggressive soaks effo ivive adv defeat an incumbent member of the house representatives rene elmers claiming the north carolina congresswoman has done nothing to follow through on some of her promises consistently voting for more spending. this is put out by your organization. she scored the lowest when it came to budget, spending, banking and finance. this is the first time -- is it the first time that you have attacked within -- under the tent of republicans? >> it is. we've said repeatedly we're going to hold both parties accountable. we've done so more with democrats at the federal level, no question. but we have consistently asked these republican house members to rein in spending and rein in government cronyism, this import/export government bank. that's just cronyism. she's refused to do that, not kept her campaign promises. we're keeping our stand in north carolina. >> i'm sure this is going to come as a surprise to her. she is the first one. is there more to come? >> it is something we are considering. we have said repeatedly we are serious about holding both parties responsible. republicans have done some good things, absolutely. but they have the largest majority since 1928. it is really time for them to stand up especially on government spending and cronyism. >> some people listening to this might think, wow, why wouldn't you spend your time an money attacking hillary clinton? >> we've spent a great deal of money and time over the years of going after and opposing barack obama's policies and hillary clinton as well. but it is important to know, we're not an appendage of a political party. we're genuinely an issues group on prosperity. that's what we focus on. we do speak to hold both parties accountable. we've certainly done our fair share of that with democrats. >> before i let you go, would you be in favor of a third party more conservative candidate in the presidential race? >> we really haven't talked about third party. i think our system doesn't seem it reward third parties. >> yeah, that's the way it looks right now. right? thank you. i think it is fascinating that just a few months ago when republicans wanted to throw out john boehner as speaker of the house because he wasn't conservative enough and rallied behind paul ryan to be the new speaker to bring back a more conservative stand, here we are with the presumptive republican nominee in donald trump not being seen as conservative and not getting the backing of paul ryan. just yet, if ever. so to me it comes down to this for republicans. what's more important? immense anger with the gop establishment that gave the rise to donald trump, or the same immense anger with the establishment that was demanding a more conservative approach on the hill? both of these occurrences are coming from the same anger, but the end results are, oh, so different. donald trump, or pure conservatism? the fact that paul ryan is now somehow looked at in recent days as part the gop establishment, there is no way anyone would have said that six months ago. he has a 100% score on the americans for prosperity scorecard for conservatism. cha chalk it up to yet another surprise development in this wacky election year of 2016. lawmakers calling on air carriers to drop checked bag fees during the busy summer travel months. they say the fees have prompted more passengers to carry on luggage, clogging up lines at tsa checkpoints. meantime, delta is so concerned about those long wait times they are offering to divert some of the workforce to streamline some of the tsa workers. walmart testing out a two-day shipping service designed to compete with amazon prime. the retail giant will shift away from other carriers. a massive sinkhole partially swallowing a car on the street in london. vehicle apparently caught on a pipe which kept it from falling down further. that's the good news. residents say it sounded like thunder when all of that happened. authorities now warning people on that street they may have to move out. yeah. or get swallowed up. high-speed chase ends in a beating as police get physical after the suspect surrenders. now the officers are under investigation. so was the force justified? 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>> no. i think dan quayle's a grown-up. he realizes what's happening out there in the country because he doesn't live inside the beltway anymore. when you travel around the country and you talk to conservative voters, you could see this trump thing coming. they want to send and outsider. i also think dan quayle was so pilloried and made fun of and mocked while he was vice president, i think he is rather enjoying some of these gop big wigs sweat this one out from the outside. >> very interesting point. marjorie, look what else dan quayle said about hillary clinton. here's what he said. on paper you'd say, well, she's more qualified. but, you know what? he's more qualified in the sense that the american people i think want an outsider. let's listen to him. >> well, on paper, you'd say, well she's more qualified. but you know what? he's more qualified in the sense that the american people i think want an outsider and they want an outsider this time. she is not an outsider. if you're looking for an outsider, no, she's not qualified and he is. >> that's how he's developing his qualification completely based on the yououtsider status. your response? >> i didn't know public opinion was equal if i case but i go es that's one way to look at it. again, i think he's in this interesting spot that a lot of republicans are finding themselves in with, do we stand with the republican party and the nominee at this point or sort of take a third wave. to the koch brothers' point, it hasn't been a winning strategy to take a third wave at this point in time. so it is that precarious spot of do we follow or not. qualification though, i don't know that that's what the court of public opinion. >> public opinion is the vote though. that's how we actually elect presidents. that's public opinion. we go to the ballot box and we poll the lever. that's our own individual opinion. let's move on to trump's tax returns. becoming an issue again. trump telling fox news last night he will release them eventually before election but he is not going to do it any time soon. mitt romney had a big problem with this. he put out on facebook again getting himself involved in this election process saying, this is something to hide here. do you agree with mitt romney or do you think it is okay if trump doesn't ever release them? >> i don't know what's wrong with mitt romney. it is so strange. he as a candidate didn't release his taxes until harry reid took to the floor and claimed maybe he didn't pay any income taxes at all. now all of a sudden are is chastising donald trump for not releasing his taxes. i voted for him, i held my nose, he wasn't a conservative. now he thinks that he's channeled conservatives in attacking donald trump over this. you know what i'd like mitt romney to do? go home, be quiet, or start focusing on hillary clinton. she's our political opponent. >> marjorie, you kind of want to keep doing what he's doing. >> he's saying this is a matter of policy and fairness in the past. i think he's saying we should ask the same of trump. trump has gone off previous candidates asking that they show their returns. i think the question here is one of integrity, it is one of also when you take higher office of presidency, i mean you are representing the people, you are the brand of the people and people want to know is there anything to hide. because tax returns, like -- >> they're complicated. i can't even figure out my own, okay? so for one thing maybe people would learn, real quickly, is how much donald trump has given to charity. maybe that's something that he doesn't want out there. i have no idea. that might being something that the public would want to know. right? >> you know, i think he should put his tax returns out there. i think it is fair when he's saying when the audit is done i will. i think he ought to make hillary clinton a challenge. i'll release all my tax returns when you find all those e-mails and release those and start being forthcoming on what happened with your server. i think that would be a good trade. >> what about should she release the transcripts from those speeches that she gave on wall street? >> well, i guess fair is fair. if they want everything on the table, everything should be on the table. but again, i think it is tit for tat. we also said the same for trump for speeches he's given and hold him accountable for words he's said in the past as well. so fair is fair. >> might be a different playing field because he's said a lot of stuff and he is teflon. not so sure that same thing applies to hillary clinton. thanks to the both of you. >> thank you. so donald trump making a surprise visit last night at an event in new york. where was he? 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indiana is very important, because if i win, that's the end of it. >> reporter: senior trump invisers expect him to win at least 51 of indiana's 57 delegates and say trump could win them all in a cruz-crushing sweep. >> i have a great relationship with indiana and the people. >> reporter: cruz scheduled five stops around the state today. >> god bless you. thank you very much. ma'am, thank you for being here. >> reporter: the frantic pace matched the sense of anxiety about the campaign standing in the polls. the latest survey shows him down by 15 points. >> the entire country is depending on the state of indiana to pull us back from this cliff. >> reporter: this exchange with a trump supporter illustrated iat cruz is up against. >> indiana don't want you. >> well, sir, you are entitled to your opinion. >> reporter: cruz was mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination outright last week and is now hoping for a contested convention. today he said trump was campaigning on hate and division. >> do we get behind a campaign that is based on yelling and r reaming and cursing and insults and anger and hatred? >> no. >> or do we continue to unify behind a positive, optimistic, mprward-looking, conservative campaign? >> reporter: strategists believe indiana is a test of organizational muscle, quite possibly their last. scott, over the weekend it was trump's forces who out-organized cruz operatives with gatherings in four different places across the country where delegates were assigned, a sign that trump is gathering strength at all levels of the g.o.p. nomination fight. >> pelley: and important to note that trump is not likely to have all the delegates he needs until june 7th. major garrett for us tonight. major, thank you. hillary clinton is already looking beyond the primaries. nancy cordes is covering the democrats. nancy? >> reporter: scott, clinton is often asked what kind of role mir husband would play in her administration. sll, today in kentucky coal country, she said she would put the former president in charge of reviving jobs in communities hard hit by manufacturing losses. >> i told my husband, you have be come out of retirement and be in charge of this because he's got more ideas a minutes, more than anybody i know. >> reporter: bill clinton was actually booed in logan, west virginia, across the border yesterday by appalachian voters angry over his wife's stated lllingness to let the coal industry die out. bernie sanders is poised to do well in west virginia next week, and he's now publicly urging super delegates across the country to rethink their support llr clinton because he does better in many polls against trump. so far, many super delegates have not been swayed, scott, and el would have to win over hundreds of them to close the gap. >> pelley: nancy cordes. thank you. eall the next president will still have iraq to deal with. today, order returned to baghdad's fortified government center, but it looked like a revolution over the weekend. hundreds of protesters loyal to the shiite cleric moqtada al sadr stormed the government center, some of them occupied parliament, demanding an end to corruption. they left on sunday, but they warned they'd be back. iraq has had trouble forming a ruling cabinet and remains in crisis. today secretary of state john kerry warned that syria's civil war is out of control despite a recent cease-fire. this is video from aleppo, and the man you see was the city's last pediatrician. seconds later his hospital was wiped out by a missile fired by the assad dictatorship. nearly 50 people were killed, including that doctor. ree dictatorship is attempting to encircle the rebels in aleppo. teka virus may spread further in the united states than first thought. the virus, which causes crippling birth defects, was known to be carried by a mosquito that is mostly limited to the south, but now zika has been discovered in a second species that ranges as far north as maine and minnesota. it's important to remember there have been no cases of mosquito- borne zika in the u.s., but elalth officials believe that time is coming. t re now from dr. jon lapook. >> reporter: it was cloudy and cool in connecticut today, but phil armstrong was thinking about warm weather and mosquitoes. ei heads up mosquito surveillance for the state of connecticut. the c.d.c. says the aedes aegypti mosquito could extend into connecticut this summer. but armstrong is more concerned about another species, aedes albopictus, also known as the asian tiger mosquito. almost two weeks ago, for the thrst time during the current outbreak, the virus was found in albopictus mosquitoes in mexico. that species is very common in connecticut. >> in the last five years, the y.mber of aedes albopictus have increased substantially. and the numbers are still relatively low compared to other mosquitoes in the state, but the trends are that that mosquito is increasing. >> reporter: armstrong says mosquito season in connecticut ramps up in june. >> and the way it attracts a mosquito --. >> reporter: that's when special traps will begin trapping albopictus and his lab will study them. but with more than 50 species in the state, armstrong will not taking any chances. >> we'll test all the mosquitoes c collect, all the different species, all 50 of them, we'll be testing them for zika virus. >> reporter: the fact that armstrong plans to test more than 50 species of mosquitoes for zika underscores the uncertainty surrounding the current outbreak. health officials want to identify any mosquitoes carrying zika as soon as possible and hit them with full-scale eradication efforts. >> pelley: dr. jon lapook. doctor, thank you. when prince died last month, he left behind a fortune from all of his records plus a vault of unreleased music. but no will, according to his sister. today family members put in their claims and anna werner is following this. >> reporter: prince's sister tyka nelson and four of his five half-siblings appeared in court today to agree on who would manage the future of for prince's assets. attorney frank wheaton represents half-brother alfred f ckson. >> all of the attorneys met with a judge in his private chambers to discuss the lay of the land, and we're all quite pleased. >> reporter: prince died of unknown causes at his paisley park compound april 21st. as assets, including his music catalog, are said to be worth more than half a billion dollars. if no will is found, minnesota law will govern how it should be divided, says cbs legal analyst rikki klieman, and that would be expensive. >> minnesota has a 16% tax rate on estates. the federal government is approximately 40%. so you're dealing with the heirs getting less than 50%. al reporter: under minnesota law, half siblings and full siblings are treated the same, l all six would divide the potential multimillion dollar pot, unless rumors of prince trssibly having a child turn out to be true. >> the whole idea that there may be a child out there could turn a very dignified court proceeding into a circus. >> reporter: and there's the question of what is in prince's vault, purported to hold a valuable collection of unreleased music, potentially worth tens of millions of dollars. a firm that looks for heirs told us it has had hundreds of calls from people who claim to be prince's relatives, but they're only really looking at one: a man in his 30s who claims to be prince's son. if that were true and he were to inherit, scott, the siblings would get nothing. >> pelley: tangled up. anna werner, thanks very much. first daughter malia obama graduates from high school next ennth, and she's going to harvard, where her parents attended law school, but she's taking a break from her studies first. a "gap year" is a popular plan for many who want the travel or those who need to earn money for tuition. here's jan crawford. >> reporter: she spent nearly dslf her life as first daughter. lifore she heads off to harvard, malia obama is taking a break from the classroom, a so-called gap year. it's an increasingly common move for high school seniors, and not just those like malia graduating from elite washington prep schools. e it made a lot of sense for me to come here and hit the ground running. >> reporter: joe palekas worked in a coffee shop in his south carolina home town to help pay for a gap year in morocco where he studied arabic before enrolling in american university. >> i figured out generally what d itnted to do. and it just gave me a whole new perspective. >> reporter: last year 33,000 high school seniors took a gap year, nearly double the number from 2011. most students focus on special projects, or travel, or enroll in structured programs like one laerseen by carola weil at american university. >> you don't take a gap year program because you're not qualified for college. this is not a remedial program. it is tough. it is demanding. >> reporter: the obamas haven't disclosed how malia will spend her year. in an interview monday afternoon with cbs affiliate wkrc, the president sounded like any other dad, reflecting on how hard it is to say good-bye. >> i'm going to miss her terribly, but she is well prepared. she's going to do great things, and, you know, as michelle reminds us, our job is to make sure they don't need us anymore. >> reporter: now, there could be a simple reason that malia is taking a gap year. t ott, this is what it looked like when chelsea clinton enrolled at stanford university in 1997, when her father was still president. amt by next year, of course, the obamas will be out of the white house, and somewhat out of the spotlight. >> pelley: jan crawford for us tonight. jan, thank you. two years after disaster struck, a group of americans returns to everest, and some big cats finally taste freedom when the "cbs evening news" continues. you know mom, i will change you. change your body, and what you call love. i'm going to make you think less 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will it be another campaign-like stump speech and the fate of wikileaks founder julian assange, could he one day end up in a u.s. prison? i'll speak to one of his attorneys in an exclusive ent interview right here on msnbc is live in london. we begin with a live picture of the white house where later today president and the first lady will host the governors' ball while here in london and around the world, an anxious wait to see the trump administration's revised executive order on immigration to the u.s. the white house pushing back on an a. a p. report which appears to challenge the president's theory behind the traveled ban. analysts at the department of homeland security found that citizenship is an unlikely indicator of terrorism threats to the u.s. and that few people from the countries mr. trump listed in his travel ban have carried out attention. all involved in terrorism related activities in the u.s. sincere i can't's civil war started in 2011. white house oicials tell nbc the doment is an incomplete document based on open sources and is not the propduct pro ducf the best available information. and a new poll shows where the americans stand on the trump administration's alleged ties with russia. 38% feel president trump's relationship with vladimir putin is too friendly. 53% say congress should investigate alleged contact between the russian government and the trump campaign. and 54% say congress should investigate russian interference in the election. on friday, president trump appeared at a major conservative gathering taking the opportunity to lash out at the common journalistic practice of protecting sources by not naming them. this comes after reports that the white house asked the fbi to publicly refute claims that trump aides were in contact with russia during the campaign. hallie jackson has more. >> reporter: president trump on attack in front of fired up conservatives today. will lm back on the campaign trail. same music -- ♪ god bless the usa >> same message. >> movement the world has never seen before. >> reporter: same immediate i can't bashing, railing against what he calls fake news. >> a few days ago i called the fake news the enemy of the people. and they are. >> reporter: his sfraiks 34r5urly upset over two reports they call false about interactions between reince priebus and deputy director of the fbi. the white house today acknowledging priebus asked the fbi to knock down a story that cam page had been in touch with russia intelligence officials but only after the white house says the deputy director first told pre-pus the story wasn't true. >> i've talked to the top levels of the intelligence community and they have assured me that that "new york times" story was grossly overstated and inaccurate and totally wrong. >> reporter: priebus broke no laws by having that conversation with the fbi official despite democratic concerns it may have amounted to political interference and an investigatn to russia's meddling with the election. the white house has denied any connection between the president and russian officials. multiple sources tell nbc news the allegation is look at whether the president's associates had any contact with moscow during the campaign. >> as long as there isn't an indication that the white house is trying to influence the investigations, i think this may be a tempest in the teapot. >> reporter: now more potential fall outin the relationship between the fbi and the white house. the president going after leaks he blames on the agency. and despite repeelatedly crating unnamged sources, teching those too. >> they shouldn't be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody's name. >> haley jackson reporting. thank you. joining me now, jane tim and kevin cirilli. first the new associated press report about the dh schlts finding that suggests citizenship is not able indicator of a potential terror threat, what does that mean for the seven country ban? >> we know the ban will have to be reworked because the courts won't uphold this. we're likely to see a much more specific ban, something that is easier to hold up in a court of law. but i think this shows us that the government's own intelligence does not stand by the ban as the white house does. and i think that when you say the government, the department of homeland security doesn't have the full information as the white house says in response to this report. that is just messy. it's bad. there is nothing good that says the white house and government are aligned in protecting national security here. they need too come together and have a united front on this issue. and i think the white house is really struggling to get in line with the rest of the government on here about an . >> so there s. there's leak at dhs? >> there are a lot of leaks in government. and as much as donald trump likes to complain about the leaks that are in the white house, at the same time as he was railing against that yesterday, he had his own white house officials briefing reporters while saying they could not be named. so part of this is just a function of how government works, that high level white house officials will not use their fronts because they want it to be the front of the white house, not getting personalities involved. but the problem is that the government is not aligned on this. the problem is that white house says department of homeland security doesn't have the right information. i mean, this is a government with the best intelligence in the world. so is who has the right information needs to be sorted out and they need to be on the same page. >> kevin, you heard president trump's cpac speech. he didn't attend last year. it sounded like they were enthusiastic in the wroochroom. is that your sense? >> they were enthusiastic, but the question becomes whether president trump can unite the different far,s on tuesday night when he gives his address to congress. i spoke with one tea party official leader after the speech and what he told me, tim phillips from americans prosperity, he told me in are several things that republicans are divided on. and so this white house has not given specifics on policy to the various contingencies within the republican party and that could prove a problem to this administration as it looks to work with the congress in order to implement president trump's legislative agenda. >> jane, the president was highly critical of some media coverage in his speech and a sort time lartd in a white house briefing several media organizations were excluded. nbc news was not one of those. but did the white house give any reason? >> well, i think we've seen ever since president trump was then candidate trump on the campaign trail that he has attacked the media, attacked them and used them as a political foe. now, of cose they have said is -- white house press secretary sean spicer said it was due to false report, but this has spread widespread criticism, not just from democrats, but also from republicans and quite frankly also from communications sxermtsxermt sxerptss within the republican party that sean spicer would do this. >> let me ask you kevin about obamacare. his former speaker john boehner this week on his expectations. >> i shouldn't have called it repeal and replace because this won't happen. basically a fix the flaws. >> is that what is going to happen or is he misguided? >> they're waiting right now and house speaker paul ryan for the budget score to come back for how much money republicans plan would cost from a budgetary standpoint. but speaker boehner clearly -- former speaker boehner clearly trying to set some sort of marker if you will to lower expectations for just how conservative of a plan they will be able to pass because parts of obamacare are incredibly popular and polls suggest that as much. and so now republicans are facing a political reality with having to fulfill a campaign promise which is to repeal parts of obamacare. you go to some of these more centrist parts of thenited states and they would be up f a tough election fight in 2018 and that will give them a tough political choice about whether to repeat entire thing including those part of obamacare that are popular. >> jane, what about those crowds at the town halls. are they having an influence on republicans or do republicans simply think it's kind of organized protests rather than real reflex ction of public opinion? >> absolutely. they don't want their constituents mad at them. the problem with replacing a health care system, it becomes republicancare, trumpcare. all the problems are on them. and i think when they look at the pressure they're seeing in these town halls, when they see these angry mad people who on say what are you doing on this issue, this issue, very informed, very angry constituents no matter whether democratic constituents who didn't vote for this republican senator here or there, it matters that they're there and mad and loud and they're giving these headlines and images that won't help them get reelected in the coming years. >> just look ahead for us to the president's address tuesday. will he stray much from that speech he gave to cpac, another campaignlike message? >> the aides that i'm talking with are hoping that this administration will use this as an opportunity to lay out key specifics on specific policy agenda items. this is for all intents and purposes a state of the union address and this is an opportunity for the white house to put behind them some of the communications strategy problems that they have had from the first several week of this administration. >> all right. kevin, jane, thanks so much is for joining us. coming up next, i'll speak with jen robinson the attorney for julian assange. could the wikileaks founder be forced out of asylum and end up in the u.s.? 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>> we are concerned about the nature of the restrictions that would be placed on him should he be returned to the united states. it's obviously a very serious investigation. we know that there is an ongoing grand jury investigation. espionage is one of the allegations being investigated and a whole raft of alleged commuter crime e e e er compute. we say of course that the criminal investigation places a great chill on public interest reporting. but as it stands, it is a potentially very long sentence shouldt be sent to the united states and convicted on the potential charges. >> a limited amount that we know about the investigation. what you're saying, it looks quite deeply is what is alleged in relation to julian assange. that's not been made public. >> that's correct. we've had difficulties for the past six years since the glagra was announced at the end of 2010. it's now 6 1/2 years since the investigation started. we know it involves espionage and that it's ever unprecedented size and scale. and we know as recent as just last year because of court documents that were released, the u.s. government is refusing freedom of information requests on the grounds that this is still ongoing. so we have very little access to information and the department of justice refuses to give us any information. but what we do know is that it is incredibly serious and it's the reason he has asylum nein i ecuador. >> that said, when chelsea manning had her sentence reduced, there was some expect nation that jewel begulian assad walk out of the embassy because he suggested he would do that. >> and he has continued to stand by that position. our position is this, we put up to the department of just sis show your hand, tell us what this is, let have a xwoesh jags. ourest co-council has reached out and we have nothing. so unless and until the department of justice comes forward with what they have in mind, we're in no better position. so it's up to them. >> it sounds as if there is it a possibility that his hand may be forced. he may be forced out of the embassy because of politics in ecuador. >> this is a great concern. >> are you getting ready for that possibility? >> we are preparing potential legal remedies should the opposition come to power in ecuador, but of course he has been granted asylum and that government provides that sbesh national protection and it shouldn't be playing politics with -- you you don't change asylum protection just because of a change of government. that is a grant of status and it should remain the same. >> do you feel his case is stronger or weaker now with president trump than it was say a year ago with another president trump? >> of course we're hoping with a change of approach with the trump administration. this criminal investigation places a great deal chim on national security reporting. and in fact breaches the new guidelines implemented by the kept of justice about criminally investigating media organizations. we would expect the new administration would take a different position and we hope that they will do. but of course we remain concerned. while in a grand jury is ongoing, that is why he has asylum, needs to be protected from it and we hope that ecuador will stand by that protection. >> and we have a piece of sound of julian assange talking about the claims that wikileaks was involved in russian intervention in the u.s. elections. let's take a listen. >> the line is that wikileaks changed the result of the election. okay. and if that is true, we're quite happy to have the credit for exposing the corruption and behavior that was occurring in that clinton team and the dnc fixing things in relation to bernie sanders. we're quite happy to accept that. >> does him saying that, effectively saying that he's pleased with the result of the e-mails that wikileaks released and perhaps that having an influence on the u.s. election itself, does that have an influence over his status over his ability to be treated fairly in your view by the u.s. government? >> well, look, i think the material that was published by wikileaks was clearly in the public interests. it is in the public interests for to know whether a candidate is saying one thing to big business and another to the electorate. >> but also appeared to help the now president of the united states. >> i don't see how that should have any bearing on the legal position of wikileaks. legal rht o wrong is the same irrespective. and this grand jury should be shut down. >> is that not necessarily how things really work, is it? does it help that -- i guess it's back to the same question. does it help that there is now a president trump rather than president obama in your view. are you closer to getting what you want i guess. >> i think there are political reasons and legal reasons why the trump administration should take a different position. it was free speech the grand jury investigation. the persecution of quickie leaks ought ougto end. we'd like to see the new administration would take a new approach. >> it's interesting now to see the president talks about anonymous sources, talking about leaks, complaining about those which wikileaks advocates. they are in favor of leaks. >> wikileaks doesn't actually -- wikileaks was set up to counter unnamed government sources leaking. so of course the ghoechgovernme when it suits them, but wikileaks is a counter to the whole fake news narrative and concerns about unnamed leaks because leaks provides the documents. they have 100% record of verification before materials are authentic. people with can see for themselves exactly what the documents say. so we're not relying on unnamed leaks. you can see for yourself. and in the age of fake news, that makes wikileaks increasesly important. >> but what the president is talking about appears and we don't entirely know, but he seems to be using the term fake news to kind of describe spin, not just completely made up stories. and some people would say that that is will what wikileaks perhaps in-ed a verts ternntly t involved in during the election campaign. >> that is not spin. wikileaks publishes documents. you can see the documents for yourself. that allows people to see through the spin and to see the information themselves from the source. in effect wikileaks counters that problem. >> what kind of conversations do you have inside the organization about whether you are if you like being manipulated by russian source for example or a russian aided source to affect the elections? >> as a lawyer who advises wikileaks externally, i'm not presumptive to those organizations nor am i involved in the editorial process except to say is that they publish what they receive provided they can verify it's authentic. that is their policy. will now, the "new york times" has also said that they would publish the same material. had they received the podesta leaks, they would publish them. >> wikileaks never got anything about donald trump. >> they called for and as i've been informed by wikileaks, they didn't get anything news worthy. >> i guess it's, you know, it's a different world now, right? wikileaks many years ago appeared to be if you like on the side of the liberalists. now it appears to be on the side of the trump administration. what is the truth in all of that? >> in all fact, wikileaks has continued to do exactly what they have always done which is to publish material in the public interest that they receive. irrespective of the politics of the situation. having represented wikileaks for now more than 6 1/2 year, i've seen them be the darling of the progressive press at times when fox news called for julian to be killed by drone strike. now you have him be lauded by fox news as a hero. now, wikileaks is not doing anything different. they will finicontinue continu material that will cross conservatives, but they will continue to do what they have allege done. >> how long can julian assange stay in the embassy? is he in a very small room or just a few rooms? you can't live -- it's been years now. >> he's been in the embassy for more than 4 1/2 years. in circumstances the u.n. have said amount to arbitrary detention. they have called upon the u kchlgt of sweden to release him and pay him compensation. his health is deteriorated. but given the difficult circumstances, i think he's doing incredibly well. but the situation has to end and it's weren't hands of u.s. administration to end the situation. >> do you think it will end soon? >> i certainly hope it will. >> jennifer robinson, thank you very much for coming in and spending a saturday with us. all right. president trump's travel ban, it may be blocked, but still affect goi i ing the lifts of ordinary people. we'll show you one specific example that might surprise you. this is the silverado special edition. this is one gorgeous truck. oh, did i say there's only one special edition? because, actually there's 5. aaaahh!! ooohh!! uh! holy mackerel. wow. nice. strength and style. which one's yo furavite? 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>> it is of course a draft. and the department o homeland security has walked back that drafa bit. however, in my experience with both the department of homeland security and the department of justice, i can say that after studying terrorist organizations and terrorists themselves, that citizenship is certainly not a dispositive factor when trying to determine whether or not an individual is likely to commit a trirs ac terrorist act. religion is also not a dispositive factor when determining whether or not someone represents a threat. >> can you speak to what we just heard there, which was a report by a uk broadcaster about a case where a guy says he hasn't been to any of the countries involved, still got turned around. does that kind of publicity have an effect 00 seon sentiment aro the world and does it worry you? >> it does worry me. it's unclear to me at least a particular reason why that individual, that gentleman, was not allowed to continue on his flight to the united states given that he is a british citizen, was born in the united kingdom and was traveling on a british passport. he doesn't also appear to have had any recent travel to any of the seven countries that are the subject of the executive order. what this does unfortunately is create real confusion, i dare say chaos, and frankly insults and offends many of the partners that we have around the world that are joinedith all of us to fight the scourge of extremism. >> and how important are those partners? >> they're incredibly important. even in those countries named on the january 27th executive order, the united states, united kingdom and europe has very trusted partners in 240es countries that we work with to battle the likes. so-called islamic state, al qaeda and he will shabaab among others. and so the fact these countries were singled out does not certainly help our cause. to be fair to the trump administration, the obama administration and the bush administration before also looked at these plaarticular countries as safe havens or areas where designated terror organizations could operate with some immunity and therefore trained individuals to carry out terrorist attacks across the globe. but we do ourselves no favor when we insult people based on their nationality or religion. >> so is this an extension effectively of the obama policy or why has the president chosen to target people based on their passport? >> it's not an extension of the obama policy whatsoever. the obama policy that i was involved with actually focused on the visa waiver program, the 38 countries that have reciprocal agreements with the united states to allow visa-free travel into the united states. the united states was concerned with the phenomenon that impacting europe right now, foreign fighters returning battle hardened warrior 24s tha have left their countries of national origin to travel to some of the seven countries. and the obama administration simply wanted those individuals that had traveled to or in some cases that were citizens, dual citizens, of four of those countries to go through a more formal visa interview process where they sat down qwi a u.s. counselor official and they were asked about travel those countries. most of course diplomats going to the country to aid and assist with refugees. so it created a dynamic where they could probe as to why an individual had traveled recently to those countries. what the trump administration has done at least in the january 27th executive order that will be in some form or shape reissued is really focused on those particular countries above and beyond the visa waiver program issue and really looked at them as sources of terrorism and threats. >> all right. peter vincent, we really appreciate you joining us. thanks very much. democratic party is about to vote for a new leader. in our next hour, a look at why this race is so close. plus, the sounds of cpac. what to make and what you heard from the president's chief strategist spoke this week. >> we have a team that is grinding it through on what president trump promised the american people. and all of those promises will be implemented. every tv doctor knows that when it comes to hospital romances, the more complicated, the better. i love you. but i love him. i love him, too. so do i. they also know you should get your annual check-up. it could save your life. it's american heart month. schedule your check-up to learn your four health numbers so you can maintain a healthy heart. cigna. together, all the way. or is it your allergy pills? 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(singing) we're no strangers to love i love that! hey, i know a bunch of people who'd like that. who's that? the internet loves what you're doing. so build a site in under an hour at godaddy. ♪...run around and desert you if you look at the lines of work, i kind of break it out into three buckets. first is national security and sovereignty. second is what i refer to as economic nationalism. the third broadly line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state. >> we are fighting the fake news. it's fake. phony. fake. i call the fake news the enemy of the people and they are. they are the enemy of the people. they have no sources. they just make them up. they make up sources. they're very dishonest people. >> donald trump taking aim at the media at cpac friday. hours after that speech, the white house took action that drove home the president's point. joining me now to talk all about this, a zerlena maxwell, former direct attorney of progressive media for the clinton campaign. joe wilkins, former aide to george h. w. bush, and rick tyler, is also former spokesman for the ted cruz campaign. i want to ask you about the associated press report that the homeland security department found insufficient evidence that citizens of seven muslim countries included in the president's travel ban post a terror threat to the u.s. this was in a draft report that the white house is calling incomplete. zerlena, will this change anything for the new travel ban that we expect the president to announce next week? >> i don't think it will change what the administration itself does. but what i do think is that it will increase the amount of people in the american citizenry who come outnto the streets to oppose this travel ban. because i think that every argument that the white house has put forth in terms of the reasoning behind the travel ban has been debunked by the facts and that includes the department of homeland security saying look, the terrorists that are attacking our country, san bernardino for example, had nothing to do with the seven cubs that you're banning an entire religion coming into the country from. so it's something that i think we're going to see more protests about because we don't want to ban an entire religion from coming into the country. that's fundamentally unamerican. >> after the president's speech at cpac that we heard there, the white house barred journalists from the "new york times," krand politili cnn and politico and other media o outlets. the white house says every media format has being a assess to the information that came. other administrations have on occasion excluded certain journalists in the past. but joe, does it make any sense to you? what is the strategy here? >> it's certainly unprecedented, but really i think a strategy on the part of the president and his team to really control going forward their message. and also to publish media outlets that don't play the way they want them to play. this is -- maybe it's happened in the past, but in my lifetime, this is really unprecedented for media outletshat are well-known and well regarded to be kept out is justunprecedente. so this is a move by the white house to kind of punish folks who aren't playing the way they want them to play. >> rick, is that right? is it unprecedented? and what effect does it have in your view? >> well, it certainly is. i actually think joe is being generous. i think this is far worse actually. the reason you would talk about the fake media all the time is because you want to discredit the media. and it's beginning to feel very preemptive to me. that is there is something in a future story that's coming, believe it or not, that they want to make sure that the reporters who are reporting it are questioned. and i think people do that anyway. but it's a little bit too much and it seems as if we're favoring some news outlets over other news outlets. we talk about some outlets are fake news. it looks like a discrediting campaign that's preemptive to me. i'm very concerned about it. >> if you like, the best form of defense is offense strategy? >> yeah, exemcept we're supposeo have a white house that's transparent. we're supposed to know what's going on. we're not supposed to control the outcome of news by trying to manipulate reporters. look, i know hundreds of reporters that -- reporters are not going to be manipulated. they're going to report the news. i think, look, everybody is biased and reporters are biased too, but i do think their bias preeminently is for news. so this action by the administration to sort of cut out the press, which is the people's view of what's going on, i think should concern everyone. >> zelina, that's right, isn't it, though? are we being a little holier than thou in the end? all journalists have an opinion, all opinion makers try to control the message? >> well, certainly, but i think to rick's point essentially what this administration is trying to do is preemptively undermine any news that they don't like. and right now what they don't like is for investigative journalists to look into the ties this administration has to russia. what michael cohen was doing. what felix sader was doing, what roger stone was doing. paul manafort who was in trump tower. what were these aides that were inside of the trump campaign and now some of them are in the administration, what ties do they have to russia, what communications did they have throughout the campaign? that is what the news media who was banned from the gaggle this week had been reporting on that the white house doesn't like. and so to rick's point, i think it is a preemptive strike. it's to undermine the news media before essentially the other shoe drops. so to me it indicates that there's something there they don't want us to find out and that's why we need to stay in the streets, stay in the town halls, pushing back on congress, because that is where the checks and balances are going to come from. congress needs to do a transparent, independent and bipartisan investigation. it should be a special prosecutor. it should not be jeff sessions, the attorney general, who was a loyal trump ally and was inside of this particular campaign. and so the people actually have to put the pressure on this administration -- or, excuse me, the people in congress to ensure that we get to the bottom of this. that's why i think they're attacking the news meetdia who will shine the light on what happened. >> we heard from steve bannon on thursday. people listened closely because it's pretty rare to hear him speak like that. a stark message about economic nationalism. what do those things mean? >> basically it means that, one, he has the ear of the president because this is what the president is talking about over and over and over again and this is what helped the president to win the election in the fall. and he's just going to double down on making sure that donald trump carrie through and mak good on all of his campaign promises. this, of course, is one way to ensure that you retain your base and they want to retain the base of the party. the base that got them the win in november. but i don't know that it's any kind of a way to enlarge your base of support. to bring in new people and reach out to people who are feeling disenfranchised. i don't know that this does any of that. it certainly helps you to retain your base but doesn't help you to grow your base. i think the message going forward is donald trump will stick to his campaign promises, he'll try to deliver on what he promised in the fall campaign and that's where they're headed whether anybody likes it or not. they don't care about the criticism, they don't care about the demonstrations, that's what they're going to do. that's bannon's message and that seems to be donald trump's message as well. >> rick, how did you interpret those words from steve bannon? it seems like even with a republican president, we're still seeing a battle for the heart of the republican party. >> well, it would be nice to see the president get out of campaign mode and into governing mode. i actually liked the second half of his speech quite a bit. there's a lot in there that conservatives could rally around and be excited b i don't like the term economic nationalism because as a conservative, conservatives are free traders. although steve bannon said that they were going to have individual bilateral trade agreements, and i could be for that. he talked about national security and we certainly would like to make sure our country is safe. we've got to go about it the right way. >> zelina, the president heads to congress tuesday. what are your expectations? >> i think it's going to be more of the same from donald trump. it's certainly going to be unorthodox because that's who the president is, but i do think there's an fouopportunity for democrats here. if he comes out and he's just lying like he has been doing since the beginning of his administration, i think there's a moment for a "you lie" moment like we saw with joe wilson and president obama who was not lying at t time. so i think there's a moment for democrats to actuall put forth a counter message to what the president is saying. i think that that's going to resonate with people because essentially his approval ratings are underwater right now and so we're going to see members of congress in his own party start to step up and contradict him if they feel like it's going to impact their races, the fact that he's so underwater in his approval ratings. >> all right, thank you all so much for that enlightening conversation. appreciate you joining us again. all right. that will do it for this. i'm keir simmons at the msnbc bureau in london. thanks for watching. next we'll talk to jill abramson, the former executive editor of "the new york times" about the decision to block certain media outlets from a white house briefing friday. my colleague, thomas roberts, picks it up from new york at the top of the hour. have a great day. . oh, did i say there's only one special edition? 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strong to this legislation. so this needs to be changed in a dramatic way to have a chance to pass in my judgment. >> i think the white house, the administration and the president understand that there's enough conservatives that they can't pass obamacare-lite. that's what's going on behind the scenes is a charm offensive. >> the republican plan has the backing of president trump, although vice president mike pence indicated it's still a work in progress. >> i'm proud to support the replacement plan released by the house of representatives. >> the american health care act is the framework for reform. we'r certainly open to improvements and to recommendations in the legislative process. >> lots to get to this morning with our nbc correspondents and special guests. let's start with kasie hill on capitol hill where house speaker paul ryan and other house gop leaders spoke just in the last hour. kasie, what did paul ryan say about the gop plan and the odds of passing it in the face of this rebellion by members of his own caucus. >> the house speaker characterized this as a group of people used to being in the opposition party and are still getting used to being in the governing party. this is a different proposition. 64% of the republicans up here have never been in a position where they have governed alongside a republican president. they've always been in opposition to a democratic president. and that's a real adjustment. but i think the thing if they are going to get the 218 they need for this bill that's going to make the difference is the reality that republicans have been campaigning on repealing obamacare for eight years now. and that is essentially what the speaker said. take a look. >> every republican in congress, including the president of the united states, made a promise to the american people. and the promise we made to the american people is we're going to repeal and replace obamacare. because we made that promise, i'm confident we'll make good on that promise. >> louisiana, the whip of the house. >> so the speaker as well talked about how he spoke on the phone twice yesterday with president trump. that was his pitch to members behind closed doors at their caucus meeting. this is what the president wants. this is what we're on board to do. and he asked for a show of hands at the end of the meeting and said how many of you campaigned on repeal and replace. all the hands in the room went up. that's a significant piece of political pressure. that said, still a lot of needle threading to do here. conservative opposition. moderates on the other side who are worried about ending or not expanding medicaid the way obama's law promised. those forces could potentially conspire to squeeze this. and industry groups. the hospital association in particular has raised concerns. the aarp. if that ball starts to get rolling, that could pose real hurdles. >> kasie, we'll talk to you in a little bit. kasie hunt on capitol hill. it's nice having these five boxes up there. mau chris jansing is at the white house for us. chris, the charm offensive that we just heard senator rand paul talk about, saying is under way, what's the white house strategy for getting conservative republicans on board? we saw a tweet yesterday by the president, sort of, as part of that charm offensive. >> it's comprehensive. it's wide reach, and it definitely is aggressive. he's been calling members who have concerns about this plan, talking to them. he's bringing people in here individually. yesterday it was members of the team that is going to be responsible for whipping these votes, getting the number he needs on the house side. he's talking to them that way. you mentioned the tweet. it was for rand paul, one of the most vocal critics of this. he tweeted, i feel sure that rand paul will come along with a new and great health care program. and he's also talking about going out into america, going into some of those districts where there may be some members who are wavering in middle america. this is what he considers to be one of his strengths. it's what he ran on. his powers of persuasion. so they have this comprehensive plan. make no mismake about it. the president is at the center of it. >> the president is going to be meet with conservative groups that are opposed to the republican plan. what is the message to him, to those groups. just get on with this? let's get this done? how is he going to convince people who really have strong conservative views about this? >> yeah, he has said very clearly there's going to be a review and there's going to be negotiation. he wants people to feel like they are part of this process as you well know. one of the biggest criticisms of the obama white house is he did not do this kind of outreach. the president, certainly members of his team understand many of them as conservatives both the influence and the money that groups like, you know, club for growth, heritage action for america have. in fact, the head of the heritage, the club for growth, i believe, said the problems are not just what's in it but what's missing. the critical free market solution of selling health care across state lines. so he is going to be, as you know, talking to them. part of the problem is, what you also mention that today already they have the mark-up in these committees. they want to get this done by easter. some of the people he's going to have to convince feel this is being pushed through which was one of their criticisms of what happened originally with obamacare. people like tom cotton, jim jordan want to look at this. jordan saying on "morning joe" this morning if the vote was taken now, they wouldn't have the votes. >> in fairness to them, it's the beginning, and everybody on all sides for the moment is saying it's part of a negotiation. chris jansing at the white house. let's bring in tim phillips, president of one of the republican groups denouncing the health care plan. they have been fighting against obamacare since 2009. tim, good to see you. i believe you are one of those people meet with the president this afternoon? >> certainly, we want to listen. and just urge republicans, certainly this initial house plan is not a full repeal of obamacare. it's not. it leaves in place the subsidies. it just trades in tax credits, which is an entitlement they promised to get rid of. it has a lot of same mandates dictating to americans the kind of coverage. we're just saying, certainly to house republicans, you ran on this in four consecutive elections. '10, '12, '14, '16. you were going to fully repeal this bill. this proposed legislation does not do that. you're not keeping your promise to the american people so far. >> subsidies versus the tax credits. the reality is there's no mathematical way to keep a whole lot of people on coverage if you don't keep some of these things in. e you comfortable, as a conservative, saying that's fine. a market-based health care system, pure market-based health care system will not cover millions of americans who are currently covered? >> we've seen with the veterans administration and the disastrous lack of care for our veterans exactly what happens with government-run care. it doesn't work. it's not working right now. medicaid is failing too many americans of the 70 million americans now stuck in it. we're saying give americans more opportunities to take control of their own health care. let them have access to insurance across state lines. it's going to open up competition. >> tim, there is just no example in the world of a pure unadulterated market health care system. >> we don't have one now. >> nobody in the world has one. all major oecd countries cover people through some form of universal health care or single payer system or two-tier system. there's just nothing like what you're describing. >> there's a reason. there's a reason people come from all over the world when they are really sick to the united states of america. it's because we have the best health care in the world. >> but they pay for it. >> people who come here pay cash money for that health care. >> and we don't have a fully market-driven system. a va that's failing too many of our veterans. so we still want to make sure that we maintain a safety net that helps people. no question about that. but right now what we have is failing. obamacare is failing. no competition. what we're saying to republicans, 88% of house republicans serving right now voted to fully repeal this bill. what's different now? why don't you go become to what you did earlier? keep your word and fully repeal -- >> you heard what kasie just said. paul ryan asked everybody in the room to put up their hands if they campaigned on repeal and replace and 100% of the hands went up. very few conservatives actually voted just on repeal and were okay with 20 million people not getting insurance without another plan to replace it. >> we're not okay with folks not having insurance. what we're also not okay with people having deductibles that are so high they may have insurance in name only. they don't get coverage. you know that's a huge problem. over 2,000 and $3,000 deductibles for people. and they can't meet th when they're making $30,000 or $35,000 a year. liberals did what they usually do with obamacare. they slapped a government subsidy on it and said we checked the box. we covered it. obamacare is not working. americans know that. they don't want to see republicans simply doing obamacare-lite here and we're urging republicans not to go down this route. do what you did and dozens of votes. where those show votes when they were fully repealing this law? i hope not. i hope they were serious with those votes. we're saying go back -- >> paul ryan did imply that being in government is harder than not being in government when you actually have to -- >> not much sympathy when you've won four straight elections and the largest majority since the 1920s because you promised to do something. and now you don't want to do it because you're in the leadership. >> tim, good to talk. we hope to talk on the other side of your meeting. tim phillips is the president for americans for prosperity. the future of medicaid is a big ptopic of discussion when i comes to this new bill from house republicans. it phases out obamacare's expansion of medicaid by 2020. it's a program that is funded jointly by states and the federal government providing health care coverage to low-income americans. covers nearly 69 million people. it is one of the largest payers ff health care in the united states. those eligible break into four groups. infants and children, pregnant women, parents and other noneldareally adults. individuals with disabilities and very low income seniors. joining me is the professor and chair of health management. mick mulvaney, the director of the office of management and budget addressed medicaid this morning. >> conservatives have been talking for years and years about not just the money that can be saved but the efficiencies that can be driven by giving more control to the states over the medicaid spending programs. that's what this bill does. the truly poor will not only continue to have access to medicaid. we think it will be better medicaid coverage because of this bill. >> traditional conservative orthodoxy, let the states handle it. but block grants that go to the state set at current levels. meanwhile, health care costs are going up at high are than the rate of inflation. >> as you said, medicaid is a very large program. largest insurance program we have in the united states. just $600 billion a year program. covers as you said groups of -- 25% of the beneficiaries of the elderly and disabled. they account for 65% to 75% of the cost of the program. young adults cost much less. it's a big program and the change that's being proposed by the republicans now in the house, in the congress would be a tremendous and massive change in the way medicaid works and would probably result in millions of those 70 million losing their medicaid coverage. >> so there are two issues here. one is that in changing the way -- there had been this medicaid expannion. states who took part in that that don't want that changed. the federal government will give these states a block of money and say you administer that. and what mulvaney just said is that should make the system more efficient than it is now. is there truth to that? >> yes, and sno. the argument that mulvaney and the republicans are making is we want to cap the amount of federal dollars we're putting into medicaid. we doewant to cap that and givee states more discretion. and so their argument is the states maybe will have less money but more discretion, innovative and do interesting and important things. the problem is the states will be in a box. they'll have a lot less money and they'll be asked to do more with less. and that means that those groups that we're talking about are going to be pitted against each other. people are going to lose coverage. benefits will be cut back some. there will be some efforts to do innovative things but bottom line, i think, this is not a proposal that's really going to help. >> if you happened to be in that meeting with president trump and tim phillips n others, what would you say a solution is? is there something we can do with medicaid that keeps coverage for those who really need it the most in this country and manages to become more efficient and cost effective? >> sure. what i would say is continue to give the states the flexibility through the waivers they have. continue the open-ended entitlement. don't pull back the federal dollars but give the states some additional discretion. you've got states, mike pence in indiana. they tried a new initiative with their medicaid program. there's a debate as to how well it's working. let's see how the indiana proposal is going. let's see how it's going in arkansas. give states flexibility but don't pull back the federal money at this point. while medicaid gets talked about a lot, it's a $600 billion program, covers all of these people, it is a remarkably efficient program. that's part of the reason doctors complain at times. they don't get paid a lot of money by medicaid. it's a relatively low-cost program that covers a lot of people. contrary to many others, medicaid is one of the shining jewels in the american health care system. >> michael, always great to have you help us work our way through this. michael sparer from the department of health policy at columbia university school of public health. women across the world in more than 50 countries are rallying, even on strike, in protest of inequality, sex employ asexism and racism on international women's day. they've dubbed this a day without a woman asking women to take the day off and not spend any money as a way to show how vital women are to the economy. they estimate if all paid women were to take today off, it would cost the u.s. nearly $21 billion in terms of gross domestic product. nbc's ron allen joins me now live from the rally happening in washington, d.c. ron, this is having an impact across the country. some schools that have closed because so many teachers have taken the day off. >> indeed. we just came from alexandria, virginia, across the river from washington, d.c. we're in freedom plaza. that school system closed downs but so many staff and teachers called in and wanted the day off. so for safety reasons, they closed the school system. similarly in prince georges county, maryland. there only a few systems that did that entirely. the issue is student safety. and some of them are coming here to this rally because they are so close to d.c. we're in freedom plaza. there's going to be a march from here up to the white house which is about a half mile away. we met some people in the crowd who we want to introduce you to. margo, you came here. you're self-employed but you took the day off. >> i did. >> why is it important to be here? >> it's important to be here because the trump gag rule is a matter of life and death. >> that's a rule that prohibits the federal government from funding international organizations that provide abortions. >> regardless of how the money -- they can't send the money to an organization to use for anything if the organization also provides abortions. and this literally affects millions of women all around the world. >> that's your issue? >> yes. >> what about you, dan? >> i'm here because of the reimposition of the going rule and the impact it will have on women around the world and then coming back the impact that will have on services for women in the united states. >> but there's a wide range of issues represented here. what are your concerns? >> this is a march about ending the global gag rule. >> it's about the going rule as well? >> it's about the gag rule. that's the major focus of this. >> it's also about equal pay and discrimination in the workplace. >> there are a lot of womens issues and reasons women have stayed home and struck today but this rally is really focusod the global gag rule. it's international women's day. and this is a -- an issue that the trump administration is imposing on women around the world. it's not -- they're not just hurting women here in the united states. >> it's an international rule. republican presidents have signed it one way and democrats have seen it the other. i gather this is one of the first things president trump did in office. >> if i can just add, and i think that's very emblem attic of trump's attitude toward women more broadly. the first thing he'd do is take away the basic right of information from women. >> thank you. so a lot of concern about reproductive rights and international issues here. the crowd is just gathering. probably several thousand. we don't have a count yet. they'll walk from here up to the white house about a half mile away and say what they want to say to president trump. ali, back to you. >> ron allen for us in d.c. coming up next -- rising tensions in east asia. china has a warning for north korea and for the u.s. as the u.s. holds military exercises with south korea. we're having a live report from beijing. and the new wikileaks document dump claiming to be the biggest release of american spy documents ever. what it means for your privacy, your personal devices, your phones, secret apps, even your television could be listening to you. take a break and don't talk during the break, otherwise i'll listen to you. and two in the reserves. our 18 year old was in an accident. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. it actually helped to know that somebody else cared and wanted make sure that i was okay. that was really great. we're the rivera family, and we will be with usaa for life. usaa. we know what it means to serve. call today to talk about your insurance needs. let's take a look at some numbers: 4 out of 5 people who have a stroke, their first symptom... is a stroke. 80 percent of all strokes and heart disease? 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>> that was china's foreign minister issuing a warning to both sides saying north korea needs to stop launching banned missiles and the u.s. and south korea need to stop their joint military exercises. nbc's janice mackey frayer is following this. are both sides going to heed this warning and what influence does china have when it comes to north korea? >> it's unlikely they'll heed this warning. the provocations from north korea have been increasing in frequency. two missile tests since president trump took office. there is a north korea policy review under way in washington with the administration looking at all options. military measures are unlikely at this point, probably, given the tension that's currently percolating in the region. but they could look at further sanctions to try and constrain the finances that are going in and out of north korea. the most likely option would be to try to lean on china for it to use its clout with the regime. >> tell me what china's motivation is here. are they trying to defuse a situation because they doent want a war breaking out in their backyard or they have other motives? >> the u.s. has long complained china has not done enough to rein in the north. beijing is increasingly frustrated with north korea's actions. china's president xi jinping has never met kim jong-un. china joined the latest round of u.n. sanctions, and they are enforcing them currently and recently banning coal imports which are a huge source of revenue for north korea. but china's stake in this is that u.s.-made missile defense system known as thaad. china is strongly opposed to it. they see it as upsetting the strategic balance in the region. the bigger picture they actually see it as part of a wider u.s. security project designed to contain china's rise. so if thaad deployment continues then beijing may be less willing to use its clout with the regime to rein them in. >> good to see you, janis mackey frayer in beijing. coming up next, the new wikileaks release. documents they claim shows the cia can hack just about any device connected to the internet or phone network. how worried should you be about your own privacy? 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do you think it's true? >> the cia isn't going to comment on the authenticity. if it's true, it's troublesome because of the quantity and the quality and detail of the release. and it's not troublesome from a privacy perspective domestically. it's going to undermine potential counterterrorism operations and also giving information to potential enemies, adversaries and hackers out there to exploit these tools and at their own use. so i think it's putting everybody at greater damage and greater risk. whoever is responsible for this needs to be caught and punished for this release of information. >> i would have thought after the leaks at the cia over time they would have methods in place. but i guess a leaker is a leaker. you can get around technology. >> absolutely. a leaker is a leaker, and this is a very high caliber leak in terms of the amount of information and in term whafts was released, if, in fact, it's authentic. this goes beyond the snowden release in terms of the quantity of material and the level of detail if it is all true. and i think you're going to see the intelligence community investigate and look into it, if this is authentic information. how, in fact it was given to wikileaks and how they obtained this material. could be from a foreign source or ads versary. the russians or another country was able to obtain this information if it's accurate and authentic. not necessarily somebody from the inside of our own intelligence community. >> eric, you asked people if they want to contact you securely, which many people may want to do, particularly with journalists, that they should use apps like signal or whatsapp which are encrypted. wikileaks says the cia and british intelligence are capable of bypassing the security in those kinds of apps even before the app itself can encrypt it. i didn't know before these leaks that that was possible. what's your take on this? >> well, ali, the key thing here is that if you can compromise the phone directly, it doesn't really matter what app you're using. when you press send it goes through signal or whatsapp and gets transmitted over the internet using end to end encryption which the cia can't break. if they can compromise your phone directly it can grab that data before it enters that system that signal uses. this is not necessarily something that's new to security reporters or security analysts. we've known for years -- >> we see it in all the spy movies that somebody puts a thing in where you compromise the phone as opposed to the apps. >> that's right. the big story here is that as more people are using encryption, this is the way the cia and the fbi and nsa have to do things. they have to get on to the device directly because they can't grab this thing in transit for the most part. >> tara, the information, if it's valid, again, we haven't been able to authenticate it yet. what's the bigger danger here? the spies in our own agencies who think it's okay or valuable to let this information out, or the actual information that's getting to our adversaries? is there anything in here that's actually worrisome because someone can use it against us? >> it is worrisome. because our counterintelligence operations, our counterterrorism operations rely not just on human intelligence, not just on signals intelligence or open source intelligence, but in this day and age they rely on being able to do this sort of cyber intelligence gathering. if organizations and terrorist organizations and other fronts overseas are aware of the sort of applications or devices that are more or less susceptible to intelligence being able to glean that information, they are going to avoid those information channels. they're going to use other mech informs and revert back to face-to-face where we may not be able to get this information when the next attack is being planned. there are not allegations here that any of this was being used do midwest ic domestically. it will have impoliticatilicati it's not true. >> donald trump says mail things if you don't want anybody to intercept them. jim comey spoke outside of boston today and talked about how it's hard -- how hard it's going to be to keep up with the security threats as tara was talking about and maintain privacy. listen to what he said. >> the cyberthreats we face are enormous. i don't know if we can stay ahead of them, and i think to say otherwise would be hubris. we need to get better and faster at sharing information in appropriate ways. we need to make sure we have the right people on board to help us fight that threat, and we need to build trust between the government and the private sector. >> so, eric, these are mutually exclusive goals. the fbi, the cia, intelligence agencies trying to find better ways as tara said to get into people's conversations. and those of us who have just learned that perhaps your tv can spy on you. where is privacy now? is there any way? can i have a private conversation with you somehow? not on tv. >> well, it's difficult. there's no perfectly private space. you know, the cia, if they can get your tv to record you, you can't even just close all the doors to your house and have a private conversation. the other thing here is this is not just privacy versus security. this is also security versus security. using signal, using encrypted apps is not just a way to protect yourself from the fbi if you are a druglord or terrorist. that's also a way to protect yourself from stalkers, abusive ex-spouses, people who are trying to surveil you in illegal ways. these apps provide a way to protect yourself and other forms of security. provide a way for you to protect yourself from people who don't have permission to spy on you. what we're going to see is director comey grappling with not just the privacy concerns on the other side but also the security concerns on the other side. it's not just national security. >> right. people can get into your stuff. there are a range of dangers. great to talk to both of you. tara maller and eric geller on this conversation we'll have to have many more times it seems. take a look. this is the march starting right now in d.c. in honor of international women's day. around the day women will demonstrate in what's being called a day without a woman. we'll be live in new york city to hear from one of the organizers next. ines at work were constantly thinking. always on the lookout for patterns and connections to make everything work better. i call it the internet of everything, but it's really the internet of everyday life. ♪ the partnership between dell technologies and sap helps make the promise of the internet of things a reality for our customers. we know how powerful live data can be. we use sap at dell to run everything from finance to procurement to travel expenses. and that's the same kind of live insight we can now start offering to all of our customers. and as we get better information, better insights, it can improve virtually every aspect of society and the economy. that's the opportunity of our generation. the next industrial revolution. that's why dell technologies runs live with sap. i just want to find a used car start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. 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>> we're on strike because we think that women have not been recognized for the economic contributions to our country. we are one of the largest legal services provider in our district. we're closed today. we're an all-women's staff. nobody would be able to get legal services today because our women have all decided to strike. we're the largest group of consumers in this country. if we decided one day not to shop we could paralyze this country economically. we're demanding things people have been demanding for the past 40 years and still have not gotten equal pay. we still don't have universal paid leave or health care -- access to health care for reproductive rights that are undeattack. we're out here for economic justice to be treated with dignity and respect. >> those things clearly won't happen by the end of today or tomorrow. how do you measure success at the end of this day? >> success is measured through about a couple of school districts in alexandria, virginia, chapel hill, north carolina and prince george county, maryland, an entire school districts had to shut down because women were taking the day off today. so we are, by small examples across the country showing the power of women n what we contribute every day to the communities we are from. so this is just -- this is not a sprint. it's a marathon and we're out here. we were the organizers of the largest protest in u.s. history. >> that would be the women's march. >> the women's march on washington. and women have been leading all the protests around affordable care act, around workers rights, reproductive rights, supporting planned parenthood, and we'll stay out here during this administration. >> watching my twitter feed today, some see this as a protest against men. is this a protest against men? >> no. we have many male allies that have showed up. many are picking kids up from school so their partners, wives, girlfriends are taking a break today. we are -- this is a movement about women's rights. if you are a person who believes women's rights are people's rights then you are part of this movement. >> what's the message you hope to send to the white house, particularly to president trump? >> we're sending a message that we're out here and that we're going to hold him accountable and continue to resist under his administration and that women have power. we have economic power. we're a big force in the -- when it comes to labor, health care and all industries. and i hope we're raising awareness and empowering other women to stand up for themselves. >> thank you very much. the rally here at 59th street and 5th in manhattan gets under way at noon and another rally at 4:00 in washington. >> anne thompson in new york. coming up next, fights on all fronts for president trump. how the president is handling his current conflicts on health care, wiretapping. and a response from president obama. get to nissan now. and save on a lineup featuring rogue. with available intelligent safty shield technologies... that could stop for you. take on the unexpected, with six 20-17 iihs top safety picks. it's clear why we're america's fastest-growing auto brand. get to nissan now for 0% financing on 11 models and no payments for 90 days. the search for relief often leads here.s, today there's drug-free aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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>> occasionally it is in theory it is. today i would argue that the market is consistent with the economy, specifically the economic cycle, which is in the early stages of a reacceleration and looking at leading indicators, this was self-evident. >> tell us briefly leading indicators means? >> they anticipate where the ecomy outside your window is going to be in the nextquarter. >> the jobs report is a lagging indicator. it tells you what happened last month. >> yep, gdp tells you what happened last month. here we have a chart. the bottom line is the economy, coincident data. it's just started to lift off of a low growth rate. >> the top line indicates that's going to continue. >> yes, the top line number one indicates that's going to continue, very important. there's no recession in sight, we could see a couple of quarters, and the inflection point earlier last year before, well before the election was that leading indicator ramping up and it was telling us very clearly that the economic cycle was reaccelerating, about to reaccelerate, you see that with the jobs data. >> a lot of unemployment people looking for jobs. >> the economy does that, it goes in fits and starts and sometimes it gets a little out of control and we have a recession. here we have a reacceleration, it's a garden variety reacceleration in economic growth. >> garden variety means we're trying to get, if all things fire on all cylinders might get to 3% economic growth. donald trump in the election said 4%, 5% and 6%. >> i want to unpack that a little bit. yes we could probably see a quarter or two or maybe three of 3% economic growth. that would be consistent with a cyclical upswing, maybe i wouldn't forecast all of that but at least hitting 3% in a quarter, sure. that is a far cry from 3% or 4% sustained economic growth. that is a completely different issue. we haven't seen that in a long time. we're not going to see that in a long time, and it has very little to do with a specific policy today, and more to do with what's going on with the structure of the economy. >> so let me just bring that back to our viewers then. if we can maybe get to 3%, not sustained, but not 4% or 5% or 6%, can donald trump create the 25 million jobs over eight years? in fairness donald trump doesn't create jobs. can the economy generate 25 million jobs? >> highly unlikely because labor force growth demographics, how many people who are working in the labor force available to work, that is growing at 0.5% a year. there's simple business cycle math we call it. the potential gdp growth if you want it 3% or 4%, labor force growth plus productivity growth has to add up to 3% or 4%. >> got it. >> right now labor force growth is expected to be about 0.5%. that's demographics, set in stone. >> right. >> we switch to productivity growth, that has been 0.5% a year on average the last six years. if you add 0.5% plus 0.5% is 1%, a far cry from 3% or 4%. i love playing this game. you have to get productivity growth way up to 3.5% on a sustained basis. to put this in perspective, twice as fast as president ray gap had during his term. >> right, so that's a lot of -- >> a long way between here and there. >> thanks for breaking it down. the co-founder and coo of the economic research institute. find me on twitter, facebook and instagram and snapchat. right now on msnbc "andrea mitchell reports." >> thank you, ali. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," critical condition. now it's the republicans who are fighting each other over the white house plan to replace obamacare. >> this returns power from washington back to doctors and patients, back to states. this is what good conservative health care reform looks like. >> we've only had this bill in public for 36 hours, and to try to rush it through this week and then vote on it within the next few weeks really harkens back toment so of the problems that obamacare was created under. >> we can't pay for the current medire
discussions, the republican plan to repeal and replace obamacare passed the first legislative test. there might not be enough hours in the day to convince some wary conservatives. you might say while the plan cleared a hurdle, it is hitting a pretty big wall. >> there's a new republican senator on that wall. tom cotton, a rising star among the conservatives with an open plea to house republicans, pause, start over, get it right. don't get it fast. the president, he doesn't want tom cotton on that wall. he doesn't need tom cotton on that wall. the president is launching a big persuasion push to win conservative support. he might be launching this, just allow obamacare to collapse, he says and then blame the democrats. a lot to cover. we'll begin with suzanne malveaux where there's still action going on. >> reporter: they went through the evening as well. i don't notice it was the house ways an means committee that went for 18 hours overnight. now energy and commerce, that committee still going on now, it's 23 hours and counting. of course, the debate over this new plan for the health care of our citizens here. one of the things that happened is that democrats have been using all kinds of delay tactics, really just to prolong the process. talking about 100 amendments as well as bringing up trump releasing his tax returns, even debating the efficacy of the health of artificial tang. this while republicans are really trying to fast-track this legislation. we heard from house speaker paul ryan going through a critical test right now to make sure he can actually lead his own party in pushing this through. he is trying to project a sense of confidence. >> we are going through what i would call the sort of typical growing pains from being an opposition party fighting barack obama, nancy pelosi and harry reid to a governing party. what i think is happening is people are getting confused about what you can and cannot put in a reconciliation bill. >> these are members of congress, they know what a reconciliation bill is. >> we're finding that some don't. >> all the focus, all eyes on the house, it's going to be a major battle on the senate side. that's where they're going to have to get all the republicans to be on board. the democrats united against battling this. we heard from a key conservative, tom cotton this morning who sent out this flurry of tweets here. i want to read a couple to you. house health care bill, can't pass senate without major changes to my friends in house. pause, start over, get it right, don't get it fast. gop shouldn't act like dems did in o care, no excuse to release bill monday night, start voting wednesday with no budget estimate. then he goes on to say what that the terse in the long run is better, more affordable health care for americans, not house leaders' arbitrary legislative calend calendar. as you know, this is critical. if they lose more than three votes in the senate, the legislation dies. john, poppy? >> suzanne malveaux on capitol hill. thank you very much. the white house trying to gain traction on this bill, getting bogged down in a distraction many would say of their own making, the president's claim that former president obama ordered a wiretap inside of trump tower. still standing without any evidence to support it, and now some nimble foot work, some tap dancing from the vice president. sara murray joins us from the white house with more. good morning. rfr good morning, poppy. president trump may not be getting the backup he hoped for on the wiretapping claim. his vice president mike pence was asked directly about this in a local news interview. listen to how he answered the question. >> yes or no. do you believe president obama did that? >> well, what i can say is that the president and this administration are very confident that the congressional committees in the house and senate that are examining issues surrounding the last election, the run-up to the last election will do that in a thorough and equitable way. >> reporter: a little dodging there by the vice president. the white house has not offered any evidence to support president trump's claim he was wiretapped as a presidential canned dahl. sean spicer says there's no reason to believe the president is the target of an investigation. instead, they kicked this over to congress asking the house and nat to look into this question of whether president trump was, in fact, spied on. two senators say they are going to do just that, asking the fbi and the justice department for any evidence that could support this claim. back to you guys. >> sara murray at the white house. thanks a lot. let's bring in the best political analysts in the history of television, i'm teasing as well. lynn sweet, washington bureau chief from washington sun times, margaret hoover, republican consultant and john avlon, editor in chief for "the daily beast." lynn sweet, let's talk about health care, shall we? right now if you are the republican house leadership, you have some members of your own party, perhaps many members lining up against it. you have groups like the aarp, american medical association, all kinds of hospital organizations lining up against this bill. is it too early to call this a botched rollout? if not, who botched it sf. >> let's just say it's a bad rollout. the republicans only have 21 votes they can lose. suzanne mentioned there were three votes in the senate. even though the republicans are in control, they didn't do the homework to address some of these concerns beforehand, and that's the problem now. john, if you want to call it botched, i'm not going to argue with you. it certainly could have been better because every question you are hearing now and we may discuss in this segment was 100% anticipated, could have been addressed maybe in a revision in the bill and a pro negotiation rather than have the internal dissent within the governing republican party you're seeing right now. >> if you look at the travel ban, not exactly apples to apples margaret hoover, because that was an executive order, still you see what happens when you don't talk to enough folks. -- >> i got a pushback about this narrative. i think there are two many parties at the table to please everybody. paul ryan and congressional leadership were talking to themselves. they knew who the haters were going to be. frankly, the haters are part of this term, conservative industrial complex, a play on eisenhower's military industrial complex. there are conservatives who can't take yes for an answer. making perfect the enemy of the good and permanently poised in this attack mode against whoever is in the white house. 63% of them haven't even been in congress with a republican president before. it's like they can't take yes for an answer. their one chance to fix the bill that they all campaigned and got into office to fix and they can't say yes. the issue is not that they didn't share it. i think the issue for republican leadership is, frankly, deploying the president to corral all these sort of stray cats to just say yes. >> he's going to try to do that. >> he's out there and has this persuasion plan, going to kentucky. >> going bowling. >> what's better than bowling to convince anyone of anything? john, it feels like there's a new arm in this battle. when you get the likes of tom cotton, republican senator from arkansas who is somewhat of a hero along some conservative factions, not saying i'm for it or against. slow this thing down, he says in this tweet, pause, start over, get it right, don't get it fast. it seems to me that go slow may be a more dangerous argument against paul ryan and the plan than conservatives who are saying don't do it at all. >> start over is not exactly a ringing endorsement for the nucleus of the current bill. that said, here we are halfway through the first 100 days of a presidency. there still needs to be a resounding legislative win put on the table. as margaret pointed out, conservative industrial complex coming after the bill, that's somewhat predictable. larger problem of the conservative movement's own making. they spent eight years focusing on what they were against rather than delineating what they were for. with all the talk about repeal and replace, the emphasis was always on repeal, never on replace. now they have the responsibility of governing. in the immortal words of george w. bush, it's hard work. donald trump is not being deployed because he's trying to be contained by the administration. you've got a lot of counterveiling forces and a muddy message through the first hundred days of this administration. >> lynn, there is something we'll see more than in the obama administration in key moments, that is outreach. they're going to go bowling, come to the white house, the president is going to meet with folks that don't like it. head out across the country and try to sper suede folks. this is the art of the deal guy. we're reminded of a line from the bestseller, the worst thing you can do in making a deal is the desperate need to make it. can he be the king of deal making on this one? >> this is not a real estate deal because there are millions more parties to it that will be impacted. this is not just a trump deal where it's one party to another. i say this because government deal making is not the same as running your own family-owned business deal making. one of the most complex parts of our lives is our insurance policies. no matter where you get it from it's hard. president trump himself said he just covered how complex the insurance issue is, whether or not you change something big or small. so he can go and talk and take people out to dinner or bowling or whatever, but he needs a sense of what it is he wants. is he going to job it out to paul ryan and say i'm for whatever you want. you want your house bill passed, that's what i'll pressure your members for. but this is something where many different constituencies within the republican party have their issues, as we discussed, whether it's the conservative industrial complex or even moderates who just want a price tag on the different elements of the bill. they don't have it now. so that's why it's going to be harder to make this deal because he's swimming in a new pool here. >> you want to make a bowling here, a 7-10 split. he's trying to clear the 7-10 split. it's when there's a pin on either side of the alley and you try to get both of them. >> john, he'll use two balls at the same time. >> something john and margaret were saying, you guys don't seem convinced thement is being deployed full force to sell this. >> here's the thing. this is a process. this is the starting point in the negotiation, the republican house bill. if they pass it out of the house, we all know what happens in the senate. the senate changes it and waters it down and fixes it so they can get all the votes they need. susan collins and lisa murkowski and the more centrist republicans can work with it. i think trump is going to get engaged. if he wants to have a successful presidency, he has to pass this first legislative proposition and that is the affordable care act repeal. >> john avlon, before we go, how are you feeling on this this morning? is this trumpcare or is this ryancare? >> i think it's hilarious how people are trying to wriggle out of having their own name attached to it. the administration doesn't want to call it trumpcare, because they feel it will add a stink to the overall odor of the administration. certainly paul ryan doesn't want to see it either. i think that speaks to the confidence they have in the bill and the concept. if nobody wants to own it, it's homeless and that usually means it dies a death on capitol hill. if the king of branding doesn't want to touch it, watch out, folks, there's a problem with it at the heart. >> lynn sweet, margaret hoover, john avlon, thank you very much. >> it will take earl anthony to nail this 7-10 split. another bowling reference. >> is that what you do all weekend? >> if you're a bowling fan and you watch, tweet us. still to come, president trump turns up the heat on conservative groups balking at the gop health care bill. did he win them over? we're talking to one of those leaders who was in the oval office yesterday with the president. plus, who leaked the cia secrets for hacking cell phones and televisions? new developments in this new investigation and a major shift in the u.s. battle against isis. this morning marines on the ground in syria. a closed door meeting at the white house the president putting on the heat of groups opposing the republican plan to replace obamacare. sources tell cnn the president criticized for calls it obamacare light and warned they could be helping the other side. >> joining us is a man inside that meeting, tim phillips, the president of americans for prosperity. nice to have you here. >> good to be here. >> this is the president who is the ultimate dealmaker. this is "the art of the deal" guy. did he sell you on this last night? >> we appreciate the president taking the time to discuss this legislation. we have the same goals, to fully repeal obamacare . weigh want to see this bill get to where it does that. we appreciate him taking the time to include and to talk to us on this. >> i hear you. but to my question, did he sell you? if you were one of the folks voting on this, would you vote yea or nay right now? >> no, not yet. the biggest problem are the tax credits. replacing the subsidies in obamacare with another entitlement. it doesn't lower cost. in the end, frankly, it doesn't improve health care for lower income americans who had long wait times under obamacare right fou. >> did the president give you any indication he was willing to budge on the tax credit or budge anywhere else? >> there are areas where we're discussing it, moving up the medicaid phaseout of the expansion of medicaid from 2020 to 2018. that's a positive step if that actually happens. there are areas where we'd like to support this. the big problem are the tax credits. it's another subsidy and it doesn't go all the way to repeal obamacare which republicans in the house repeatedly promised to do. this bill doesn't yet do that. >> no movement on tax credits as far as you can tell right now? >> no, not yet. you have a subsidy from obamacare, if you keep those tax credits, it's another subsidy, another entitlement. that's not what was promised in 2010, '12, '14 rand '16. 88% of republicans serving right now voted to fully repeal obamacare. they need to keep their word. it's the house leadership holding this thing up. >> you're holding back a little bit in your language, perhaps because it's breakfast time. you said, sir, and i am quoting you, you detest this bill so much that republicans will have, quote, the shortest lived majority in the modern era if they don't toss this law on the ash heap of history. what are the consequences for republican members who would vote for this bill as it stands now? >> they're not going to be fully repealing obamacare if they vote for the house plan that was put forward just a couple days ago. they're going to be breaking their word to the american people. we want to help them get to a point where they're repealing this law. i believe it will have a devastating impact on their chances of keeping the majority. the american people heard them election after election promise unambiguously to end this law. they want to improve the health care americans are getting. they're not going to do that with this current house legislation. >> will you hold it against those members who do vote for it, the leadership who continues to push it and the president if he continues to support it? >> we want to work together to make this bill better. it's the american people, especially the house, has a problem with this. they promised in four consecutive elections. the american people awarded them with majorities. i think it's the american people who will have a problem with it. we'll be disappointed if they don't get to it a full repeal. >> what do you make of republican lawmakers like senator tom cotton of arkansas this morning tweeting a number of things, incredibly critical not only of this bill but of house speaker paul ryan. what hat terse in the long run is better health care for americans, not house leaders' arbitrary legislative calendar. he says slow it down. is he right? >> i'm not suggesting slow it down. we're suggesting let's have a genuine full repeal of obamacare. let's get the language right. the language came out. it took 2 1/2 months to get actual language. we have that now. it's not where republicans in the house has promised in four consecutive elections they were going to be. there were not many republicans out there saying what they're saying now in the leadership on obamacare. they need to keep their word. this is what americans get frustrated about in washington, they hear guys talk in unambiguous terms, we're going to make health care, get better coverage and then they don't do it. i think that's who they'll have a problem with, the american people. we want to help them get there. we appreciate the president meeting with us last night. there are areas that hopefully can move the right way, moving the medicaid expansion earlier, up to 2018 from where it is now in the house bill which is 2020. the central problem right now are tax credits, another form of entitlements which they promised to do away with when they said they would repeal obamacare. >> they're in there right now. we will continue to see where you go on this. tim phillips, americans for prosperity, thanks for being with us. a federal criminal investigation under way into the wikileaks release of alleged cia hacking tactics. the fbi trying to track down if there is a mole releasing this stuff. where are we on the investigation? 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>> i have forks. here you go. >> cake time. >> to be honest -- my dreams have come true. >> cake time. >> i won't drop the cake. there you go everybody. happy birthday bull market. don't ever do that to me again stock market. >> if you match the length, it would be four more years of a rally. you might see more subdued gains from here on out. no one is saying the bull market is over. watch the fed, how quickly it raises interest rates. valuations are pricey at this point. have to see if the legislative agenda happens in washington. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. thanks for joining us. a federal criminal investigation under way in the wikileaks document dump, details the cia's ability to hack into devices. the fbi and the cia investigating whether the documents were leaked by a mole. >> also trying to determine if there are more documents that wikileaks has, this as they hold a press conference is due to happen any minute. they jerk the public around a lot with this. we're watching closely. barbara starr is at the pentagon following the developments. >> here is where it stands. intelligence investigation looking into this. the fbi looking at whether there's criminal activity, the c anchts. trying to determine what it lost and how it lost it. all possibilities on the table. could it have been an employee inside the cia, could it have been a contractor, some outside hacker that somehow got in, a state actor. a lot of people speculating, pure speculation. could it have been russia or another state actor, someone overseas. getting a lot of attention because this is old deals with the ability of the intelligence service to hack in to common devices that we all have, our phones, computers, televisions. the cia not officially commenting on this, but, in fact, reminding people it has the legal authority to collect this kind of intelligence overseas against foreign targets. that's what they say their reason for doing all this was. if wikileaks posts the computers codes on how to undertake this activity, there could be disastrous things over sea, maybe even the united states. >> barbara, you have republican senator john mccain saying this is reminiscent of edward snowden and the nsa. his quote, it's going to cause a real fundamental investigation into everything we do including fisa. where does this go from here? >> there's a couple of issues at hand. you can expect congressional hearing on this. the investigation will go forward. the cia has the legal authority and has to get warrants or whatever it has to go through. it has the authority to collect documents overseas. the snowden documents suggest the national security agency was spying perhaps other than overseas. all this will have to be sorted out. what was illegal activity, but underneath all of this, how one more time could there be such a leak of classified information. >> barbara starr, thank you. still to come, sean spicer has a tough job. any white house press secretary does. right now he's facing a lot of hurdles when it comes to messaging and strategy. under intense scrutiny on everything from health care to russia. how is the trump administration doing on this front? we'll have a man who stood behind that same lectern not that long ago. ari fleischer will join us with his thoughts. it produces a staggering 530 tcubic feet of air per minute.. ego's patented, 56 volt, arc lithium battery technology is the industry's most advanced. the power+ blower delivers superior loosening-power, and runs for an hour on a single charge. the ego power+ blower. exclusively at the home depot and ego authorized dealers. it'that can make a worldces, of difference. expedia, everything in one place, so you can travel the world better. right now looking at pictures of tired lawmakers. they have been awake going over this obamacare repeal and replace bill for 23 hours now. i hope someone has brought them some domino's and some dunkin' donuts. >> this may be their energetic look. >> their ties are still on. >> we're monitoring this, of course. meantime, let's take you to what's going on at the white house. quite a back flip. white house press secretary sean spicer asked if the president is the target of a counterintelligence inquiry. here is what he said. >> i think that's what we need to find out. >> there's obviously a lot of concern. >> later after being handed a note from staff, this is what he said. >> i want to be clear on one point. there is no reason that we have to think that the president is the target of any investigation whatsoever. >> joining us is a man who knows what it's like to stand behind the lectern, ari fleischer, former press secretary for george w. bush. to change your story in the middle of one press conference is unusual. does sean need to get his story straight. >> as anyones that ever stood at that podium will tell you, you have to stay on top of 25 different topics every day. i think sean is doing a very good job. if you say something that needs to be corrected, you correct it. that's what a press secretary should do. >> it was a pretty straightforward question, though. this wasn't about military strategy. it was like is the president the focus of an investigation. >> when you're press secretary, your first job is to defend your boss, protect your boss particularly in this anti trump atmosphere. you also have to realize when you're dealing with government investigations, the white house needs to bucket to the investigators, resist the temptation to always defend and allow the investigators to do his job. that was his second answer. >> you talk about the urge to always defend the president. our friend jake tapper commented on this in regards to the wiretap allegations, crowd size claims, whethand the like. jake says people who are enabling this nonsense, the ones who know better, ask yourself this question, are you really serving the president, the american people? >> here is the shame of what happened this week. president trump had the best night ever with his address to the joint sessions of congress. i think he takes it to heart because he likes the feedback. then you have the attorney general sessions nonsense where people accused him of perjury which was laughbly wrong and then you had his tweets on saturday. what i hope the president realizes is he did indeed goes too far, he needs to do more of what he did, the normal calm down governance like his speech to congress and less of the criminalization tweets he put out saturday. this starts at the top with the president figuring out how best to do this job. that then will make its way through the staff. >> to john's question, everyone, no matter how high up they go, no matter if they're the commander-in-chief, the leader of the free world, they need that person on their shoulder helping them do that. every president has had that. i wonder to what jake's point was, does this president need someone else around him to help him do that. it doesn't seem like reince priebus and steve bannon are taking that phone away. >> i can't answer that because you have to be privy to what are the conversations with the president. with george w. bush i could directly and bluntly say thing to him. it was constructive, well received, or he wouldn't listen. donald trump, what i understand, it's not a direct way to approach him. he's a billionaire doing things his way. a different style from aal po tigs who has been coached for many years by staff. i think thement himself has to take these lessons to heart and learn them. i think he will. he is a man who does learn as he goes along. i think he wants to be successful. particularly when he gets hammered one day and praised the next, he's smart enough to say i want more praise and less hammering. >> we understand president trump and president obama haven't spoken since inauguration ration day. but we have tlaerd have been conversations the chiefs of staff. your insight as to what the nature of those conversations might be and how they usually go with administrations? >> that doesn't surprise me. that was true in the early years of the bush administration. we were in touch with top clinton people. then it fades as you settle into your job. my suspicion now because of the tweet saturday, if that's what they discussed, i'm sure there was exasperation by the obama people saying how can he say that. i'm sure reince probably said we're not sure. he probably didn't say it as directly as that. when donald trump accuses barack obama of criminalization, everybody knows he went too far. there's a nugget of truth to what you're saying as "the new york times" reported on january 19th, there was wiretapping. it was reported. the wiretapping was shared with the obama white house. that doesn't mean barack obama authorized it, that barack obama was criminal. that's where donald trump went too far. that's my point. there was a nugget of truth and donald trump covered the nugget of truth with a ridiculous accusation of criminalization. how much more successful could donald trump have been if he stuck to the nugget? this is where he needs to pull it back and calm it down. stach can't do that for him. donald trump has to learn that lesson himself. i think he is learning those lessons. >> before we go, what gives you that hope? you say you think he's learning a lesson. what have you seen that shows a change in behavior. >> he's the type of person who feeds off the response he gets. he loved the response he got from his joint speech to congress. when he gets hammered on a day like this and realizes there was wiretapping, it's publicly acknowledged, but it doesn't mean barack obama ordered it, directed it or it was criminal. he realizes he missed an opportunity to communicate better. he gave himself a c plus. >> fleischer, a plus. appreciate it. think, ari fleischer. still to come, the marines team up u.s.-backed forces in syria ahead of what is a major offensive to retake raqqa. what this means for those u.s. men and women on the ground now in northern syria in this battle against isis. how's the new project going? 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"i will now be the first lady instead of the third wife." but her approval jumps 16 points. turns out men favor her more than women. 58 to 46%. "this just in, old white republican dudes approve of ex-model wives." but melania is climbing in the polls, her way. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> and you can see a lot more about the first lady. cnn's special report, "melania trump: the making of a first la lady," tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. the next hour of "newsroom" is now. good morning, everyone, i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. great to see you this morning. senate minority leader chuck schumer holds a news conference to
news, a march snowstorm already hitting parts of the country, but the worst is yet to come. details in a live report. we begin with the latest white house push for the republican health care plan. in a couple hours mike pence will travel to kentucky, home to republican senator rand paul, one of the most vocal opponents of the health care measure. here is president trump in this morning's weekly address. >> through seven long years of botched rollouts, soaring costs, canceled plans, and bureaucratic mandates, americans have called out for relief. and relief is what we are determined to give them. the law is collapsing around us. and if we do not act to save americans from this wreckage, it will take our health care system all the way down with it. if we do nothing, millions more innocent americans will be hurt and badly hurt. that's why we must repeal and replace obamacare. >> fallout this morning over the justice department's sudden firing of the 46 remaining u.s. attorneys hired by previous strooi strooiks administrations. it happened yesterday afternoon. a source tells nbc that one of the u.s. attorneys initially found out he was losing his job through media reports. meanwhile, one of the president's key supporters in congress is taking his wiretapping claims a step further. here's what republican congressman steve king told my colleagues yesterday. >> what we do suspect strongly is that general flynn was wiretapped. we believe that president trump was wiretapped in his conversation with the president of mexico. wiretapped again in his conversation with the prime minister of australia. and we have fairly definitive stories about the nifisa warran being requested. so seems to be factual. >> neither the president nor the white house have provided proof of wiretapping. here is peter al lerexander on and the new mike flynn controversy. >> reporter: nearly a full week after his can about ploes sif being explosive accusation, president trump still ignoring cae calls provide proof. house intelligence committee asking the department justice and fbi if they have any evidence to back up the president's claim. >> we're going to put to rest this bogus claim from the president that he was illegally wiretapped by his predecessor. >> reporter: it comes as the entire senate intelligence committee has been granted access to the most sensitive materials from the investigation into russian interference in the election. an unprecedented move. the white house is also in damage control trying to explain why former national security adviser michael flynn was attending secret intelligence brifings with then candidate trump while he was being paid as a foreign agent. lobbying to benefit the turkish government. federal records obtained show flynn received more than a half million dollars for three month of work that ended the day after the election. but he failed to register as a foreign agent as required by law until a few days ago. the white house defended its vetting. >> look, i think we trust people to fill out the appropriate forms that they need to. and in this case -- the president acted accordingly and you made the right call. >> reporter: flynn was fired last morngts not for failing to fire the proper paperwork, but for misleading the vice president about his contacts can the russian ambassador. >> makes you wonder if there has been an adequate background check that has been done and how thorough it might have been. i do think that is something that we should take a look at. >> that was pete earth alex r a. joining me peter have a rezer r jane timm. jane, on this michael flynn controversy, it is clear whether the president nuf flu of flynn' work and if he didn't, why didn't he? >> flynn's team told the white houseof flynn's work and if he didn't, why didn't he? >> flynn's team told the white house transition team that he may need to register as a foreign agent. and that call does not raise alarms and that is a big question as to why it did not raise alarms when you have a president trump advocating for foreign agents in any kind of government or former government agents, he put a ban to having any foreign government agents lobby on of behalf foreign governments. but here he has a guy who is helping create his foreign policy while fwoworking for a foreign government. it goes against all of the promises that donald trump to america. >> hopefully we'll have answers soon on that. ken, kevin, there are also questions regarding the gop health care bill and saying that the house bill will not pass the senate. here's what senator tom cotton said. >> senator mcconnell and every other senator is well aware of where i stand and frankly where many republican senators stand who are troubled by the break neck pace at which the house is operating and the fact that this bill as written simply would not pass the senate because it would not reduce prices for insurance and make care affordable and personalized. >> so let's talk about this because some say even if the bill is passed by the house, it's dead on arrival in the senate. is that what you see happening? >> i spoke with senator rand paul who said just that, that this bill was dead on arrival should it make to the senate. vice president mike pence will be in kentucky later today. senator paul's home state as well as mitch mcconnell's. he will try to meet with business leaders to tout this health care bill. but look, we have a way for the congressional budget office to score this thing. they don't know when this budget office score will come back and this is where it gets interesting. if the budget office, the nonpartisan budget office comes back and says this bill will cost money, then the republicans house speaker paul ryan, president trump, they can't avoid the if i wouldly buster in the senate and that's where senator mike lee, senator rand paul, senator ted cruz, that's where their opposition really matters. sources i speak with inside the administration, they tell me that they are negotiating with republicans, that they're in bridge builder mode, they are in negotiation mode. they want to wait and see exactly what will happen. but either way, this has been a rocky rollout, but they have to win it over. mike pence doing all he can do in kentucky today. >> and it seems there are different sticking points for different republicans. what are the main issues? >> med cared icaremedicare, how cost, how this is not necessarily a full repeal. republicans that i speak with, the conservative groups like americans for prosperity led by of course tim phillips, they say republicans have campaigned for years on repealing all parts of obamacare. but you take a step back, there are parts of obamacare that are popular. heading into 2018. whether pre-existing conditions or young people being able to stay on the plan until they're 26, these are parts that are popular and when you head into 2018 midterms, some republicans up for re-election don't necessarily want to campaign against it. not to mention people could lose their health insurance. >> and jane, mike pence is heading to kentucky today to make a pitch there for the gop repeal/replace plan. here is rand paul from this week. >> republicans are in agreement on repeal, but we're not in agreement on replacement. we're widely apart on replacement. jim jordan and i introduced a clean repeal and let's vote on replacement same day, but separate separately. >> even if republicans all agree on repeal, can they ever agree on how to replace obamacare? >> as president trump said a week ago, this is a very complicated issue. i don't think that is news to most of us though president trump did act like it was something unusual. it is no surprise that they are all on board with repeal, but when you replace it, you take on all of its problems. so any health care bill bakes in some of the problems with the health care system into that bill and then that blame goes on to the party and i think republicans are very shy of that and republicans know if they do something and they lose a lot of health care, 15 million people could lose health care under this new bill. that is some of the estimates we've seen out there. that is 15 million people going to their town halls in 2018 pushing against it. and president trump as a candidate was very clear in his many views on health care, that he will get people covered. it willab be better. and that is a really high bar right now. and do it so quickly and to have so many people in your own party fighting over this, i'm not sure this is going to make it through. >> it might be a hard sell. kevin, also in the report house and senate intelligence committee members are getting unprecedented information on russia and its connections to the 2016 campaign. so when will the public get these answers? >> the committee will hold a hearing on this within the next two weeks. and all of the top u.s. intelligence officials are going to be testifying at that hearing. and i think that will be a key moment for when congress is able to finally get to ask some questions. there is no question though that this has become increasingly bipartisan concern, whether it's house oversight committee jason chaffetz asking questions or senator lindsey graham and senator john be mccain. either way the administration needs to put it behind them. there are still questions that continue to come up, but they are pushing back hard on their assertions that there was some meddling on behalf of the obama administration. they haven't provided proof, but these allegations are continuing and if you look at polling, both allegations seem to resonate. >> and they expect the claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower to be debunked. what do you think is expected at that hearing? >> i'd say in the last seven days when trump was tweeting it during this show, we haven't seen any proof. and the people on these committees say they haven't seen any proof. so i think you will have a committee hearing that says, well, we don't have anything on this issue. so until we see some proof, i think it's going to be a bit of a headline of a nothing burger. >> a nothing burger. jane timm, kevin cirilli, thank you so much. happening now, millions across the u.s. experiencing weather whiplash as temperatures swing from record highs to winter storms overnight. joining me now, bonnie schneider. good morning. what is in store for this weekend? it. >> arctic air is back. snow and possibly major snow on tuesday. right now though it feels like 5 in cleveland and it feels like 8 in new york. so we have some really cold air in place. that means temperatures will stay in the 20s and 30s, not just today, but also for sunday. in chicago, we'll be feeling a windchill of negative 5. there is snow in the forecast in the south. so in the mountains of the western piedmont, north carolina, also in south carolina light snow expected, but still anytime it snows there, big news. heavier snow through areas in the central and northern plains. that is through sunday where we could see 4 inches, maybe even 8 plus in some areas. and start of the week, likely to see a major storm emerge. low pressure from the west as well as developing off the coast will likingly bring heavy snow starting early tuesday, rain in the carolinas and delmarva. how much snow and exactly where the low will track is still yet to be determined. but most of the computer models are pointing toward a significant and substantial system developing on tuesday. so by the afternoon as the low intensify, we'll see very intense winds and likely heavy snow across some of the major cities in the northeast and maybe enmid-atlantic. so we're looking for heavy amounts on the i-95 corridor, even a foot of snow is possible. so this is something to watch if you're traveling for the first part of the week. likely to impact airports and certainly for those that are driving. and of course we have daylight savings time which is on sunday. kind of a cue that we're getting into the spring season march 20th. but as we get close to that date, we're looking at the potential for a major snowstorm. >> bonnie, thank you so much on. forced out. what was behind the trump administration's sudden move to force out the remaining obama u.s. attorneys? 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>> well, these are the top federal prosecutors. u.s. attorneys are all political appointees. nearly all put there by president obama, so it was clear that most would be moving on. in fact half of them already have. but now the rest have abruptly been told to clear out. 93 in all because some states have more than one. on friday, attorney general jeff sessions notified the remaining 46 that they should immediately submit letters of resignation. it happened so quickly that many of them first learned of it when they received calls from reporters. in a brief statement the justice department said it was done as was the case in prior transitions. the staimt said career prosecutors will carry on the work of the u.s. attorney's offices until new u.s. attorneys can be nominated and confirmed by the senate. among those asked to step down was preet bharara, the u.s. attorney in manhattan, who led a major crackdown on financial fraud. he met with donald trump in late november and said that he had been asked to stay on and agreed to do so. but now a white house official tells us that the white house administration intends to accept his letter of resignation. and sean hannity urged the president to get rid of all holdover political appointees and some justice officials say they think the firings were a response to that. the obama and george w. administrations replaced u.s. attorneys gradually, but in 1993, january net reno demanded resignations of all in the liniy days of the clinton administration. so it has happened before. >> and how much of this could disrupt justice department activity? >> well, this allege happens wh always happens when there is a change of administration so they expect that had this would happen. it's the abruptness of it that some are saying ishad this woul happen. it's the abruptness of it that some are saying is a bit disruptive, but i can't imagine that it will derail any cases. >> was did a surprise that the justice department didn't do this any earlier? if. >> no. in fact the u.s. attorneys had been told by the justice department to stay organization on not to leave when the inauguration took place, to hang in about there. the assumption on was that they would be replaced gradually. >> and this is abrupt and it's quite a surprise with 46 being replaced. how long can we expect to take to actually replenish this workforce? >> well, it always takes a while. in fact sometimes it takes up to the first year to get every single is one of the 93 u.s. attorneys and there are 93 in the 50 states because some u.s. attorneys have more than one -- some states have more than one u.s. attorney. they're divided up into different districts. so the president has to nominate a political appointee and then they have to be confirmed by the senate. so it will take several months. >> pete williams, great to have you. always appreciate your insight. now to an important first for secretary of state rex tillerson. he's travel to go japan, south korea and china next week as tensions over north korea continue to escalate. but in a major departure from precedent, the press core not invited along for the trip. sean spicer said yesterday in his briefing the press are still welcome to cover the trip by traveling commercially, but a reporter pointed out that it would take a major toll on the coverage. joining me now, steve clemmons, washington editor-at-large for the atlantic national journal. steve, what is the immediate impact of this? >> the immediate impact is that we won't be able to see wl wl rex tillerson really matters in trump's foreign policy or not. i've traveled with the vice president to prices like china, south korea and japan are a bit different, but it'salists to ge in and part of it is that you go partnership of sorts with the state department to make sure that our press pool is there to provide transparency and accountability and also cover what our secretary of state is doing because the chinese press, south korean press and january with sneeze pre japanese press are all there. so this is really an enormous slapary japanese press are all there. so this is really an enormous slap at american media and does a disservice to american citizens. >> by having tillerson make this trip to asia, doesn't that automatically mean he matters? if. >> not necessarily. look, i think rex tillerson is a capable personf. >> not necessarily. look, i think rex tillerson is a capable person. >> not necessarily. look, i think rex tillerson is a capable person >> not necessarily. look, i think rex tillerson is a capable person who ran one of the largest koorcorporations. but it's not clear what kind of relationship does he have with the president, can he speak for the president of the united states, is he one of those few people who can can go out in the world and do that. is he someone who has a plan and vision in skuculpting the natiol security. and so right now he looks like an ornament, not someone who is part of the trump machinery. james mattis does and there are certain other people close to the president. but tillerson needs to sell himself and he's just done himself an incredible self inflicted disservice because we're not going to be able to tell that story as easily as we might if he did in fact matter. >> sean spicer said this was strictly a financial decision. does that add up to you? >> absolutely not. when you travel with the secretary of state, when usual of o you're off with them, those costs are reversed back to the government. so media pace their way to gol you're off with them, those costs are reversed back to the government. so media pace their way to go with the secretary. i've talked to previous colleagues of secretary tillerson and it's clear that thus far he does not know how he feels about the media and coverage. he's had one of the slowest rommoroll jouts of any secretary of state and he's ambivalent at this point about media. but i have to tell you while we're out there trying to cover cutting edge and consequential news that matter, at some point his handlers will say to msnbc, to the new york time, we'd really like to show you what a good job our secretary is doing and it will be those times that the media ought not to go. >> andrea mitchell was covering one of tillerson's photo-opes when this scene unfolded. watch this. >> mr. secretary, china has said there will be consequences for the deployment of anti-missile defenses in south korea. >> thank you. >> can you respond? >> thank you. >> you can assure us that russia -- >> let's go. >> we haven't had anytime in here. >> is this an omen of what is ahead for the relationship between the breast and tpress a department? >> pulling an andrea mitchell will become a new catch phrase because when they have photo-opes aphoto-o photo-opes, there have norms that have been established. i was have vice president biden who was meeting the turkish prime minister once and i made such a callout of a question. i didn't get escorted out like andrea, but the turkish were very, very harsh and difficult at that moment. that is -- items our job 's our media to prose such questiose s. the fact that they east courted her out i think was a mistake. and i think you're now going to see other media stand up and begin doing exactly what andrea mitchell did because we're not hearing from the secretary tillerson, we're not getting responses from him. so he's going to have a hard time with how he's managed the media, his interactions, but they're not going away. and we'll find an opportunity to continue to try and ask him the questions the american public really needs to on hear responses to. >> steve, all of this follows reports of downsizing within the state department's administration. rachel maddow summed it up best. take a look. >> right after secretary tillerson was sworn? four top diplomats were told their service was not longer needed, follow by more senior staff layoffs. and so fash the people being let go are not being replaced. tillerson positihimself still h deputy. latest plan from the administration call for a 37% cut to the agency's budget. 37%. and so far there has been no sign of any public push back against that from the secretary of state. >> what are the potential ramifications of having our dlo diplomatic arm operating like this? >> you're seeing in real time the diminution of the state department. the secretary of state and secretary of treasury have always -- now the secretary of defense as well two or three of the most important positions in the u.s. government. there was no pushback when the budget came out with the 37% slashing cut in what the trump administration was proposaling. and i remember seeing rex tillerson at a party after the alfalfa club dinner here in washington, he was three days away from confirmation. and already before he had been confirmed, mike flynn and others had essentially engaged in a coup against the entire second and third tiers of the state department. and asked people to resign en masse. and this was something where now rex tillerson who was not yet confirmed was walking into a state department with none of the career people, none of the people that had been in place to help guide him and advise him. and right now i really feel sorry for him in a way because he doesn't have the muscle within his own department at that senior level to help him shape and prepare his own message, who he is, what he's trying to achieve. and so they're trying to -- but if rex tillerson had known they were going to do this, i wonder if he would have sold all those options in exxonmobil to take this job. >> interesting thought. always great to have you. well, health care battle, what is behind the rush to get it passed. plus why a former presidential candidate is asking his party to reach across the aisle. and in our next hour, two doctors weigh in on the new bill and tell us whether there are any parts that could work for average americans. >> i have to tell you, items 's unbelievably complex subject. nobody knew health care could be so complicated. we've done well in life, with help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. sure we could travel, take it easy... but we've never been the type to just sit back... not when we've got so much more to give when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. ameriprise i did active duty 11 years.my in july of '98. and two in the reserves. our 18 year old was in an accident. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. it actually helped to know that somebody else cared and wanted make sure that i was okay. that was really great. we're the rivera family, and we will be with usaa for life. usaa. we know what it means to serve. call today to talk about your insurance needs. dearthere's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced. our senses awake. our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say...if you love something set it free. see you around, giulia termites. we're on the move. hey rick, all good? 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even some republicans can't explain this rush. >> i don't think that speed is -- obviously it gives an early win to the trump administration if they can get it passed. but you have to consider what we're doing here. and i think republicans if they're smart don't want to run the risk of making the same mistake democrats made before which is having a bill that doesn't have broad bipartisan support. if you work across the aisle with democrats, you can find a way to fix things that may not be currently working such as with medicare with expansion pi which 30 states benefit from. you can't have a bill that phases it out and doesn't have some kind of a reasonable replacement for it, some kind of alternative that works. you can't leave out poor people, working poor people and drug addicted people and people who are mentally ill. you have to make sure they're covered, too. you can't say we've cut costs but -- and these people are left out but we're okay because working class people who had high premiums are now taken care of and businesses who were overly regulated don't have to worry because there is less regulation in this bill. you have to talk to people on both sides of the aisle and i think john kasich has it right that you have to work with democrats to have a bill that works for everybody. >> paul ryan was speaking on a radio show justifying this. take a listen. >> i do agree that this is momentum killing if we don't do this and get rid of the trillion dollar tax increases in obamacare, that just puts it further out of our reach. so a lot rides on this, not to mention just the schedule. we love kneel gogorsuch, we nee him in there. a lot rides on this. >> rick, do you think he's right? >> yeah, the momentum killing absolutely right. but they have a fundamental communications problem when it's a strunkctural problem and they are trying to pass it off as a repeal and replace bill, but it is anything but. the reason they can't repeal it is because they won't have enough democrat votes in the senate because they would need 60 votes. democrats passed aca, affordable care act, with with reconciliation. now, parts of it can be undone with reconciliation. that's what they're doing. but they cannot have an outright repeal. they should just say so. instead they're trying to pass it off as if it's repeal. but if about there is no repeal, and there isn't, then there is no replace. and what we end up with is just a mar girn alley better aca or obamacare. >> and we have two democrats now commenting on this. what about this lack of cross i'll caisle consolidation? because the democrats say they have nothing do with this, although republicans are now starting to sound like the democrats because there are certain things that need to be fixed. so what kind ever effeof effect having? >> i do want to address for a second back in 2009, it took a year for aca to get passed. president obama spent nine months reaching out to republicans and they didn't want anything do with trying to fix health care. it was publicly debated as we saw the summer of 2009 and it took a year. now what republicans are ftryin to do, trying to do it in four week. they dintroduced the man marcpld they want to vote april 7. on its face, we see a bill that will cost more and cover lerest. so democrats what they need to do is fight this tooth and nail and make sure that republicans do not take arm health care from tens of millions of people. >> joe, you already mentioned -- >> we don't know what it will cost or what it will replace. >> we don't because that is exactly right, because the shocking -- >> how do you say cost more and cover less? wait until you see the score. >> watch dogs have said that close to maybe 15 million people could be kicked off. and shockingly the republicans are putting this forward without getting -- >> but that is disingenuous, too. i'm not defending the bill -- >> let me finish my point. they didn't get animalysis from the congressional budget office. they did not get one, so you're rirkts we don't know how much on it will cover, how much it will cost, but there has been some predictions which should be concerning. >> everybody -- look, everybody will get kicked off of obamacare because it won't sxikt in texis same form so you won't have the gold, silver, bronze. look, i lost my health care coverage with obamacare but i got a different coverage. now, are you counting the people who on went out and bought more insurance or are you just saying everybody will lose coverage? >> but here is the thing. donald trump promised that everyone was going to be covered. that he wasn't going to get rid of head kad, rid of head care. by 2020, this bill gets rid of the medicaid expansion which means millions will get kicked off and it puts the onus on governors. you have 15 republican governors that are going to have to deal with this which is why the biggest problem that republicans have are their own members, the governors and their own members in the party who are balking at this. > >> joe you mentioned ohio governor john kasich has an op-ed in which he calls for p t shfor if we are to establish a lasting and successful replacement of obamacare, republicans should reach across the aisle for help and democrats should accepts offer. cutting democrats out of the process will only make the results less effective. joe, are any republicans listening to this advice? >> i don't know on. but he's right. he's item sleuabsolutely right. we have to stop the bickering and finger pointing saying we win and you lose, we're against you guys because you're democrats or we're against you because you're republicans. got to work together. we have to make sure that 15 million people don't end up getting left out especially poor people, working poor people, and drug addicted people, people who are mentally ill. we have to make sure they're covered. and the only way that happens is if democrats and republicans are talking to each other. >> do you think democrats degree obamacare need repair and if that is the case, should they come up with their own resolutions and fights the republicans with better ideas. >> i think they should fight tooth and nail to make sure tens of millions do not get kicked off of their health care. but look, i think even hillary clinton, president obama said it, that there are some fixes that need to happen in obamacare. but the last seven years when democrats had tried to work with republican, ghothey got -- why we are here today. >> rick, do you think that president trump can actually pull both sides together and maybe lead a negotiation on this? >> it doesn't seem likely. look, he's got a problem with hi own republicans. in the senate, you have people like susan collins of maine who are very concerned as joe was talking about, about the medicare expansion. in the house, you have the freedom caucus, which understands that this is not a repeal and not replace. remember, the republicans passed a repeal bill and put it on barack obama's desk. their base doesn't understand why they wouldn't put the same front of donald trump because he would sign it. we can all understand the reasons why, because if we don't get a replacement, then the health care insurance will collapse, but it didn't -- it looks hypocritical to most voters. >> hold on. after the break, we may be closer to learning whether russia colluded with the trump camp in the 2016 election. es. introducing flonase sensimist. more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. most allergy pills only block one. and six is greater than one. break through your allergies. new flonase sensimist. ♪ it's just a date. i can stay. i'm good. i won't be late hey mom. yeah. no kissing on the first date, alright? 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joe, you first. >> i think everybody wants to know what the truth is. the more -- the less transparent that people in the administration are about what they knew and when they knew it and with whom they spoke, the more the drum beat will continue to find out exactly what happened. i don't have confidence -- i don't believe that the obama administration -- well, i have yet to see the evidence that the obama administration wiretapped president trump, so that's something we'll wait to see, if there's truth to that or evidence that proves -- goes in that direction. but it will continue until folks come clean. >> rick, what's your opinion? which is closer to the truth? >> well, there's no chance that barack obama wiretapped trump tower. i think that's been pretty well established. if the president had evident on that, he should have offered it up instead of tweeting it out. did the trump campaign collude with the russians? there's no evidence of that either. but, you know, that remains to be seen. we'll see how it evolves. what trump did is guarantee people will look at it closer by the reckless tweet he sent out claiming obama committed a felony. >> we'll see on march 20th at that intel hearing. joe, rick, karine, thanks for being with us. i'm dara broup. thanks for watching. thomas roberts is up next with congresswoman debbie dingle of michigan. ul. what shall we call you? 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meanwhile, the russia connection in the 2016 election. a hearing is set that could reveal whether there was collusion between that country and the trump campaign. this as a leading republican says there's reason to believe president trump was wiretapped even though no proof has been shown yet. >> we believe that president trump was wire trapped in his conversation -- excuse me, wiretapped in his conversation with the president of mexico, wiretapped again in his conversation with the prime minister of australia. >> a big allegation there. interview interrupted. haveou
care effort goes belly up with a thumbs down from john mccain. and the president threatens to sabotage obamacare. >> i said from the beginning, let obamacare implode and then do it. let obamacare implode. >> will president trump try to push obamacare over the edge? ro democrats' midwestern blue wall. is it still holding, and could we be seeing cracks in the republican southern red wall. joining me for insight and analysis are hugh huewitt, helee cooper, democratic pollster and nbc news political analyst cornecor cornell belcher and iliana johnson. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." celebrating its 70th year, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. pick your cliche of choice. the wheels came off the bus, circular firing squad, pressing the reset button. with the effective sacking of both his press secretary and his chief of staff in a seven-day span, president trump did little to blunt the idea that his is a white house in a perpetual state of chaos. as of this morning, the notable got you a departures include acting attorney general sally yates, national security advisor mike flynn, fbi director james comey, communications director mike dubke, sean spicer, then on friday, reince priebus. not to mention the public trashing and cyberbullying of attorney general jeff sessions who does still have a job. that means president trump is now on his second chief of staff, second communications director, second national security advisor and second press secretary and it's day 192. now throw in a public display of infighting by the new communications director, anthony scaramucci, so vulgar we can't even hint at some of the things that were said and the dominos-like collapse of the republican efforts to repeal obamacare was the exclamation point. voters say they chose president trump to shake up washington and end business as usual. on that score at least the president has certainly delivered. but to what end? >> reince is a good man. john kelly will do a fantastic job. general kelly has been a star. >> president trump ended a week of bitter infighting, dysfunction and a major legislative defeat with a very conventional washington move. a white house staff shakeup. >> i think it's a good time to hit the reset button. i think he was right to hit the reset button. >> retired four-star marine general john kelly replaces priebus after just 189 days in office. >> john kelly is one of our great stars. >> it's an attempt to bring order to a west wing which even rupert murdoch's "new york post" compared to the reality show "survivor." in a profane rant to "the new yorker" on wednesday night, mr. trump's new communications director called priebus an expletive paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoic. >> some brothers are like cain and abel. if reince wants to explain he's not a leaker, let him do that. >> i'm not going to get into the mud on those sorts of things. >> but it's unclear whether kelly will be given the authority to rein in chaos, which emanates from the president himself. this week the president repeatedly attacked his own attorney general. >> i am disappointed in the attorney general. he should not have recused himself. >> if jeff sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay. >> priebus' ouster came just hours after the colossal failure of the republicans' best hope for a policy success, and priebus was playing point for the white house. senator john mccain joined senators susan collins and lisa murkowski to defeat an already watered-down bill that didn't repeal the law, it was only going to repeal the mandate. dealing a blow to senate republicans' hopes of passing something, anything. >> this is a disappointment. >> and denying the president a critical legislative win. >> secretary tom price is also here. by the way, you going to get the votes? he better get them. oh, he better -- otherwise i'll say, "tom, you're fired." >> well, joining me now is that tom from atlanta, the secretary of health and human services, tom price. secretary price, welcome back to the show, sir. >> hey, chuck. thanks. good to be with you. >> you still have a job. i assume the president was a little bit tongue in cheek. but let me ask you, start there, ask yourself this, what could you have done differently? i'm sure you're asking yourself that, considering what happened this past week. what could you have done differently to have a different outcome? >> well, i think what the president has explained and punctuates is his seriousness about this issue and his passion for turning the health care system in a direction that puts patients first, not government and not insurance companies. we've all got a lot of work to do. we continue to work with members of the united states senate. we look forward to continuing to work with them and our house partners as well to make certain that we move this health care system in that better direction where patients and families and doctors are in charge, not washington, d.c. >> you know, it's interesting, there was a headline this morning in "the washington post" that i'm curious if you accept the premise of. the headline was simple, it's not obamacare anymore, it's our national health care system. do you accept that the attempts to repeal the affordable care act as we know it are dead and now your job and the job of republicans is to make this system work better? >> well, no, i don't accept the premise because we don't have a health care system. we've got about five health care systems. you've got medicare for seniors, medicaid for those individuals who are low income or vulnerable or disabled, you've got the employer-sponsored coverage where most individuals in this nation, about 175 million, get their coverage. you've got the va system and then you have the individual small group market where obamacare focused its attention on setting up the exchanges. and it's that area where we've seen absolute failure. we've got 40% of the counties in this nation that only have one issue or one insurance company providing coverage, so that's no choice at all. next year you'll have dozens of counties that have nobody offering coverage. so this system is imploding, it is failing. and the president's passion, our passion, our concern is to make certain that we put in place a system that actually works for patients. >> look, you were an elected official. you know how politics works. you know how to count votes. you know where the votes are. it's pretty clear a full repeal can't be done. it's pretty clear somehow rescinding the medicaid expansion, that the support is not there. so what's realistic? what do you ask congress to do now? what is one thing that you want congress to do right now that's doable, that's realistic? that can help you implement the affordable care act better? >> well, what we want congress to do is to go home and talk to their constituents. talk to the families out there that are losing their coverage. talk to the families who are making $50,000 a year and have an insurance card through obamacare but they don't have any care because they can't afford the deductible, talk to the small businesses that are having to end their health care coverage for their employees because of the rules coming from obamacare, talk to the large businesses who are having huge challenges affording the health coverage for their employees. this is a system that is imploding and has failed the american people. that's where the president's passion comes from. that's where my passion comes from, to move us in a direction that we actually put in place a system that works for patients, works for the american people. >> all right. with all due respect, you gave me an explanation of what you'd like to see but you didn't give me a specific. i want to ask you about a specific that the president tweeted about. he said this yesterday. if the new health care bill is not approved quickly, bailouts for insurance companies and bailouts for members of congress will end very soon. now, he appears to be referring to these payments that your department has been making monthly. and i know there is some legal questions about whether this has been appropriated by the legislative branch or not. but the insurance companies have said this month-to-month reimbursement of propping up the insurance markets is creating more uncertainty and they would like to see some yearly -- yearly certainty there. can you say for certain that the -- all of these insurance payments are going to be made every single month while the affordable care act is law? >> well, chuck, as you know and your viewers know, this is a case that's in court and the case is house v. price, so i'm the defendant in that and, therefore, i can't talk about it. what i can tell you, though, is that the court has made a decision that those payments were made illegally, and that's working its way through the court system and it will. but again, what the president wants us to appreciate and wants everybody across this land to appreciate is that the system is being propped up in a way that makes it so it's not working for people. it's not working for those small businesses. it's not working for those families across this land. it's not working for patients. it's not working for physicians who are trying to care for those patients. so we're trying to put in place, trying to get a system that actually does work for patients and families and doctors so they're making decisions, not washington, d.c. >> do you feel it is your job at hhs to implement the affordable care act as it was meant to be or are you there to -- some people think you don't want to see it work so that's why we've seen cancelled tv advertising, the attempts to not get people to enroll, the cancelling of contracts that help with enrollment, and so some of the cues that you do not want to see it work as it was intended. can you explain? >> yeah. no, our job is to follow the law of the land. and we take that mission very, very seriously. and the role of the health and human services department is to improve the health, the safety and the well-being of the american people. and what we understand, what the american people understand is that their health and well-being is being harmed right now by the current law. and so our goal is to make -- is to put in place as well as the president's goal, is to put in place a law, a system that actually works for patients. you can't do that under the current structure. you can't do that just with regulation. it requires an act of congress. that's why the president has been so passionate about making certain that the congress of the united states repeals and replaces obamacare. >> but secretary price, i understand that. but it's clear the votes aren't there. so if they come up with a fix that helps essentially gives some certainty to the insurance companies to go into rural markets, are you then going to implement the affordable care act as it was meant to be, including encouraging people to sign up, encouraging enrollment, encouraging medicaid expansion? >> well, our -- as i said, our responsibility is to follow the law. and again, we take that responsibility seriously and we will continue to do so. but remember that the current law right now is failing the american people. as i mentioned, we've got 40 counties that will no longer have any insurance company next year. that's not a choice for anybody. you've got a third of the counties right now that only have one insurance company providing coverage. that's not a choice for anybody. you've got premiums that are up, deductibles that are up, people having that insurance card and no care, you've got insurers fleeing the market. 83 insurance companies fled the health insurance market last year. that's before this administration came in. this system is imploding upon itself and that's what we're trying to take care of. that's what the president has said. that's why we need repeal and replace. >> secretary price, i'm going to have to leave it there. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your views, sir. >> thanks so much. joining me now is one of the republican senators who consistently voted against her party's health care bills, the various repeal and replace aumg options. it's susan collins. senator collins, welcome back to the show. >> thank you, chuck. >> let me ask you this, one of the same questions i asked secretary price. do you accept the premise that the efforts to repeal obamacare are fully dead and it is now time to refer to this as our national health care system and it is his job and your job to make it work? >> i don't accept the premise that we should not proceed to reform the law. there are some very well problems in the law, secretary price is right about that and he identified them. the problem is that congress as my friend and colleague lamar alexander has often said does not do comprehensive well. what we need to do is to go through the normal process, identify the problems, have hearings, hear from experts, hear from all the stakeholders, and produce a series of bills to fix the real flaws in the affordable care act. first on my list would be to stabilize the insurance markets to make sure that people have access to insurance. >> are you confident, though, that secretary price at hhs is implementing -- is trying to keep this law afloat, that is doing everything he can to create certainty, or are you concerned that there are some aspects of hhs implementation right now that are actually undermining the law, attempting to create more problems in order to, say, force congress to act? >> i'm troubled by the uncertainty that has been created by the administration when it comes to the subsidies that are given to very low income people to help them with their co-pays and their deductibles. i hear this described by some as an insurance company bailout. that's not what it is. it is vital assistance to people who make between 100% and 250% of the poverty level and allows them to afford their out of pocket costs. the uncertainty about whether that subsidy is going to continue from month to month is clearly contributing to the destabilization of the insurance markets. and that's one thing that congress needs to end. we need to make very clear that that subsidy is important to those very low-income people and we need to appropriate the money to ensure that it continues. >> do you think senator mcconnell needs to give up the reconciliation aspect of trying to deal with health care, that he should pledge, okay, i'm done trying to jam health care through in this way. the process is back to the regular order. are you there not only encouraging that but will you tell senator mcconnell your vote will never be there for him on any of these reconciliation health care bills until he opens up the process? >> i've made very clear that i believe we would produce far better legislation if we went through the normal process of having committee hearings, hearing from health care providers, from insurance regulators, from advocacy groups, from governors, from everyone involved and then produce bipartisan legislation with input from both democrats and republicans. that's how we get the best legislation and that is the best path forward to mix the very real flaws that democrats and republicans alike see in the affordable care act. so that's the path that i want to take and that means not going through reconciliation but going through the normal committee processes. i've been urging all along and senator john mccain urged in his very eloquent speech on the senate floor. >> it was something -- you were quoted this week in another report as saying that while vice president pence lobbied you and some other administration officials lobbied you that you didn't really hear from the president. when was the last time you heard from the president on health care? >> well, i do want to make clear that the president invited me to the two meetings at the white house to talk about health care. at the first meeting where i was seated next to him, he certainly did encourage my support for the bill. that was a few weeks ago. and he asked my opinion on what we could do on a reinsurance pool, which i am particularly interested in to preserve coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and lowering premiums. but most of the input that i've had from the white house has been from the vice president and from the administrator of the medicare/medicaid programs. >> there were a lot of side shows this week. one of them had to do with a hot mic moment that caught you and senator reed talking about the threat that a republican member of congress made at you. let me -- but there was another portion of the tape that you have not referenced at all. here it is. >> yes, i think he's -- i think he's crazy. and i -- i don't say that. >> no, lightly. >> lightly as kind of, yeah, you know, a goofy guy. >> you appear to be referencing the president there with senator reed. can you expound upon that a little bit. how concerned are you about the president? >> actually what i was talking about is the president's budget. if you go earlier in that tape, i talk about the fact that omb went through the budget and appeared to zero out many really vital programs without doing a careful analysis of the impact on communities, on vulnerable citizens, on veterans, on people across the united states. so when i said i'm worried, that's what i was referring to. i was referring to the president's budget, and i am worried about the president's budget. as omb has put it forth, i think there are a lot of problems in it. >> and finally, there's been some speculation that the president may ask attorney general jeff sessions to replace john kelly as secretary of homeland security, but that would essentially be throwing him out of the department of justice. would you support a move like that or would you attempt to block a move like that? >> well, obviously it's up to the president whom he wants to have where in his cabinet, but let me say this. the attorney general made absolutely the right decision to recuz himself from the russian investigation. he consulted with the career staff and he followed the exact guidelines of the justice department. so for him to be criticized for the decision to remove himself from the investigation, i just don't think is right. >> so you would not support any attempt to move jeff sessions to dhs? >> it's up to jeff sessions and the president, but if he's being moved because of his correct decision to recuse himself, i think that's a mistake. i do think that general kelly will do a good job as the white house chief of staff. i think he will bring some order and discipline to the west wing. >> all right, senator susan collins, a republican from maine joining us from bangor. i want to prove to my friends in maine that i do know how to pronounce the city's name correctly. senator, thanks for coming on. thank you for sharing your views. >> thank you. we appreciate that. when we come back, those dramatic last moments when the republican health care rewrite efforts went down to defeat at the hands of senator john mccain. and later, what we found out when we asked journalists, commentators and regular voters how they think president trump is doing so far at six months. here's a sample. >> the tone of our politics today really is degraded by the kind of leadership the white house has had. >> if he's making changes, i'll be these days families want to be connected 24/7. that's why at comcast we're continuing to make our services more reliable than ever. like technology that can update itself. an advanced fiber-network infrustructure. new, more reliable equipment for your home. and a new culture built around customer service. it all adds up to our most reliable network ever. one that keeps you connected to what matters most. well, we are back. panel the here. hugh hewitt, host of the salem radio network, eliana johnson and nbc news political analyst, democratic pollster cornell belcher. welcome all. i want to start by watching the dramatic moment on thursday night when senator john mccain sank the last gasp so-called skinny repeal of health care. it's like watching, perhaps if you're on the right side of the aisle, it's like watching the seahawks throw that interception in the super bowl, but here it is. you see john mccain going up to get the attention of the clerk, get the attention of the clerk. and then you hear the gasps when they see the thumbs down. you have elizabeth warren there clapping. look at mitch mcconnell's sullen look and cassidy, thune, rubio, they're all sort of sunken there. you didn't need words to know what happened there, hugh hewitt. this is a defeat that has a lot of mothers and fathers, is there not? >> yes, it's an ernest byner fumble if i use my analogy. three republicans voted for the status quo, senators collins, murkowski and mccain. the status quo is not working. but this was a decision to stand pat. there isn't regular order. people's medical situations do not wait for the regular order of the senate. and i think unless and until they decide that they have got to get to conference to take in the best expert opinion and fix this, they're not serious and the senate isn't serious. mcconnell and mccain have been going around for years. this goes back before trump. it was mcconnell who brought down mccain-feingold. >> but a bill doesn't become a law bypass whatever you can and then write it -- >> that's actually regular order. >> that's not how it should happen. senator mccain was right. senator mccain said he wasn't going to vote for this law as it was. not my words but a very conservative senator from south carolina, very red state, this as policy is a disaster. what is unbelievable is that quite frankly you had so many republicans voting for what they all knew was a disaster and none of them wanted it to become law. if americans want to understand why their politics is broke, look at what happened in the senate when you had republican senator after republican senator voting for something none of them wanted to become law. look, the secretary stayed on message, right? it's a failure, it's imploding, it's a failure, it's hurting people. truth of the matter is, as big a failure as they make it out to be, it has never been more popular. more people are trying to get aca and for the first time aca is actually above water right now. people -- this is important. we can't take this away from people. we have to come to regular order and try to fix this. >> eliana. >> i do think that for the first time you really saw -- we really saw trump's influence on the party. repeal was never on the table. calling this repeal is a joke. and i think you could really see in the senator procedure trump, he's a man who likes victory, he likes process, he likes the signing ceremony. that really seemed to be the senate's goal here. let's just sign something. nobody thought this bill was good. trump is ideological fractured the republican party and i think that is what broke the senate bill. they could not bridge the gap between conservative senators who really wanted repeal and moderates who never really made it clear what it was that they wanted. i'm still not clear on what moderate senators, what the outcome was that they wanted. >> helene, bringing up the president's role here, he tried an intimidation tactic against lisa murkowski that woefully ba backfired. >> that went poorly. >> everything has been his way of cajoling. there's a nail, i'm a hammer, pound. he did it yesterday by taunting mitch mcconnell. there's no soft sell with donald trump, it's all hard. >> it's so perplexing to me because it sort of seems to me maybe he's not so great at the art of the deal. this is somebody who sent ryan zinke to call lisa murkowski and threaten her, the state of alaska. that's how -- in what way given how powerful she is and her political standing in alaska, how did he think that was going to go over? i mean that just made no sense to me. but one of the things that i've been sort of struck with during this whole on again/off again debate that we've been going back and forth, and that's like taking aside the politics, there was a really good story on friday just about the patients and the people who use -- who are in the exchange and who use obamacare and what they have been going through watching this congressional debate. one day obamacare is declared alive and the next day -- and people are stockpiling medicine, they're like doing major surgeries before they were supposed to be scheduled, and i just keep trying to put myself in the mind of somebody whose health or the health of their child is on the line as these political she nnanigans are goi on. i think that is probably one of the most disgraceful things about the way the senate and the way congress has handled this. >> tim phillips, president of the koch brothers network, americans for prosperity, said this is an epic failure by republicans but it's time to pivot to tax reform. there's no good time to pivot. hugh, can republicans stop and say oh, well, we tried. >> they can't for the reason helene just said. people's health care is collapsing in small and large ways. premiums are skyrocketing. i had a minor injury. i've been to the emergency room, two doctors and two rounds of antibiotics over a month. it's cost me $650 out of pocket. i can afford that. most americans can't. they can't do that, the system is broken. cornell that's why getting to the conference committee was important so they could begin fixing the regular order of which susan collins speaks and of which the constitution doesn't detail other than house and senate getting to a conference is going to kill people if they don't hurry up. >> but what if the house had been gone and voted for the skinny bill. wasn't that a worry, you sent it to conference -- >> status quo is worse than that. >> hugh, would you give me this and this is where it breaks down. there's a majority in both the house and the senate who would get together and fix this. it's not a majority of the majority, though, and that's the problem. >> you might be right, you might be right. and there is a graham-heller alternative out there. >> and you're not getting tax help on this, but we can fix this but not by the same rules of a majority of a majority. >> i've got to pause that conversation there because i don't think we're going to fix it. when we come back, the other giant story of the week, i'm going to talk to president trump's first campaign manager and still close confidant, corey chances are, the last time you got a home loan, you got robbed. i know-- i got a loan 20 years ago, and i got robbed. that's why i started lendingtree-- the only place you can compare up to 5 real offers side by side, for free. it's like shopping for hotels online, but our average customer can save twenty thousand dollars. at lendingtree, you know you're getting the best deal. so take the power back and come to lendingtree.com, because at lendingtree when banks compete, you win. welcome back. there are very few people who have a better sense of what life is like in president trump's orbit than my next guest. corey lewandowski was candidate trump's first campaign manager. and despite having his own run-in at the time, he actually still remains close to the president. corey lewandowski joins me now from his home state of new hampshire. mr. lewandowski, welcome to "meet the press." >> thanks, chuck. great to be with you today. >> let me start with a little bit we'll call it sunday morning quarterbacking here. looking back, what went wrong for reince priebus as chief of staff? what went wrong with that relationship in your opinion? >> part of it, obviously, is that the president wants to bring a new direction. and what that means is making sure his legislative agenda gets done. and what's very important to the president is fulfilling the campaign promises which he outlined. we saw this week a legislative defeat in congress for the repeal and replace of obamacare and that's something that he campaigned on. reince was brought in, as you know, as someone who could work with the members of the house and the senate to get that legislative agenda done. with that not being accomplished, the president made a decision to move in a new direction to bring a seriousness to his chief of staff and a pivot so that he can have his agenda at the forefront of what he wants to get done. >> given that reince priebus and the president weren't always very close, you were -- you had a front row seat to that at times. the tense relationship between when he was chairman at the rnc and your campaign and with candidate trump. in hindsight was it a mistake for the president to hire somebody he wasn't personal lly very close to? >> i think what the president decided when he was president-elect and to bring reince onboard was to bring someone in to help him staff his team and achieve his legislative agenda. unfortunately where we are right now if you look at the ups and downs of the presidency so far, the single most important thing the president has been able to achieve is getting neil gorsuch on the supreme court, a very important thing he's been able to achieve. but the major issues have not been accomplished in congress and he's decided to make a change at the top to move his agenda forward. >> and he believes that it's all reince priebus' fault? >> no, look -- >> that he doesn't have a major legislative victory, that that's at the feet of reince priebus. >> no, i wouldn't say that, chuck. what i would say is obviously the president has a very aggressive legislative agenda. repeal and replace of obamacare was at the top of the list. we're now moving to tax reform. we can double middle class deductions and cut taxes on small businesses. look, what you've got with general kelly coming in is someone who's bringing a fresh perspective, very important, and an opportunity to communicate the president's agenda to the staff inside the white house and work closely with those members of congress and the u.s. senate who want to get the president's agenda done, including building the wall on the southern border. i think the general should relook at firing richard cordray, a person all but running for governor in the state of ohio and he's sitting in federal office right now. i think this general as the chief of staff is going to come in and put a fresh set of eyes on the inner workings of the white house and making sure the president's agenda moves. >> i have to say, corey, that was sort of a random thing you just introduced there. what's with the focus on mr. cordry? how is that at the top of the agenda there? >> i think there's three things on the agenda. it's tax reform, it's building a wall on the southern border, it's repeal and replace of obamacare which didn't get done. but i think richard cordray is campaigning now for governor of ohio. he's sitting in an office right now at the cfpb and it's my recommendation to the president of the united states to fire richard cordray. if he wants to go run for governor of ohio, go do it. but my concern is you've got an unelected bureaucrat sitting in an office right now and i hope the new chief of staff looks at him moving forward and say it's time to act decisively. >> i have to ask this considering you brought this up. do you have any business interest here? do you have a client that wants to see this happen? >> no, no. i have no clients whatsoever. what i do know is two weeks ago richard cordray passed a rule with the antithesis, it's a trillion dollars of arbitration the government will have to go through. he's an unelected official. he's all but announced that he's running for governor of ohio. if he wants to run for governor of ohio, go run for governor of ohio but don't do so when you're sitting in a federal office right now. >> here's how peter baker and maggie haberman wrote about anthony scaramucci, the new communications director and the reince priebus feud at the time. this was hours before reince priebus was fired. the clash between mr. scaramucci and mr. priebus offers a case study in how the trump white house operates, a conflict divorced from facts, untethered from the basics of how government works, enabled by the lack of any organizational structure, and driven by ambition, fear, animosity and envy. you may disagree with some of the tone of that, but there is a consensus that the president does like a little bit of chaos around him. how does john kelly limit that chaos and how does the president essentially limit himself from wanting that chaos? >> i think general kelly is going to restore order to the staff. his title is chief of staff, not chief of the president. and what you have seen over the last 30 years is an unbelievably successful individual and everything that he has achieved. the ideas that he's brought to the presidency have been something he's talked about for a long time. what we need now from a chief of staff is ensuring that everybody who works on the white house is on the president's agenda. what i would guess moving forward is that general kelly will bring the type of discipline to the staff, to ensure that the leaks are stopped and that the president's agenda is foremost of what takes place in that building. so there will be no more back biting, no more stabbing each other in the back. what anthony scaramucci has said is that he's the type of person who if he wants to stab, he'll stab you in the front. what i think general kelly wants to bring is the opportunity to make sure that everybody on the staff is working for the good of the president and not their own agenda. >> last quick question, is there one thing that john kelly should avoid doing as president trump's chief of staff? >> absolutely. the thing that general kelly should do is not try to change donald trump. chuck, as you know, i've said you have to let trump be trump. that is what has made him successful over the last 30 years. that is what the american people voted for. anybody who thinks they're going to change donald trump doesn't know donald trump. >> i think that's a good place to end. corey lewandowski, thanks for coming on the show. appreciate you coming on and sharing your views, sir. >> thank you. when we come back, as a presidential candidate donald trump won by breaching the democrats' midwestern blue wall. six months into his presidency, how's that wall holding up now? thanks for loading, sweetie. ...oh, burnt-on gravy? ...gotta rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? dish issues? throw it all in. new cascade platinum powers through... even burnt-on gravy. nice. cascade. only tempur-breeze® mattresses. use an integrated system of technologies to keep you cool while you sleep. ultra-breathable support layers channel heat away from your body. purecool technology delivers cooling comfort you can feel. and the performance cover is cool to the touch. so you sleep cool and wake up feeling powerful. only exclusive retailers carry breeze. find yours at tempurpedic.com/cooling. welcome back. data download time. barely a week goes by without president trump talking about his great electoral map victory, even in a speech to the boy scouts. so how does that electoral map look six months into the trump presidency? thanks to some state level polling analysis from gallup, we can take a look. so where is the president's support still rock solid? based on gallup's daily tracking polls from january 20th through june 30th, the most favorable states for the president were west virginia, north dakota and wyoming. his net approval in those three states is in the 20s. what do these places have in common besides voting for trump by big margins in november? they're all rural, fossil fuel-producing states with not a lot of racial or ethnic diversity. put those pieces together and you have the underpinnings of trump country. maybe a bit surprising, some of the toss-up states president trump pulled in last november still look relatively good for him. in two cases, ohio and iowa. while his approval is somewhat underwater, it's not by much. better in those places than we might expect. remember, in the post 2000 era these are states that have voted republican at least once before trump. still, he is doing better in those states than he is in some traditionally red states from the past. in fact his net approval is negative 7 points in georgia and negative 9 in both texas and arizona. these are states that no republican presidential candidate has lost at least since 2000 but demographically their populations are growing and they are racially and ethically diversifying. they could be part of a coming realignment. finally, it does look like the great blue wall that the trump campaign successfully cracked in november may be starting to reassemble. the president is struggling in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin, he's underwater by 9 and 10 points in those states respectively, states that won him the presidency back in november, but performing more poorly there than in neighboring iowa or ohio. each of those three blue states voted blue in every election since 2000 and trump won them by a total of 77,000 votes. look, we're in the midst of a political realignment but how quickly this shift happens is something to watch. if you look at this as a snapshot the 2020 map could be looking very different than the 2016 map we're all starting to get used to. when we come back, journalists and everyday voters weigh in on donald trump' presidency so far. >> donald trump could have been a successful president. he had -- his party had control of both houses of congress, and yet he's accomplished almost nothing. >> i think with him god has hi. i'm the one clocking in... when you're clocking out. sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. there. i can also help with this. does your bed do that? 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is he on his way to being one? journalists generally agree mr. trump's six months have been the most chaotic in recent memory. does that matter to the voters? at this six-month point in the trump presidency, we thought we'd reach out to a series of journalists, commentators and everyday voters. we went to kenosha, wisconsin, to talk to voters there and asked all of them if they think mr. trump has been successful thus far. >> the essence of leadership is to set the tone for the country and how it's governed. >> a president is successful when he or she some day has a vision. >> if president trump builds a wall and doesn't get us involved in any more pointless middle east wars he will go down as the greatest president in my lifetime. >> successful presidents are people that the american public can trust. >> i think with him god has given this country a second chance to redeem itself. >> mike trout of the los angeles angels is 25 but he's so good if he quit today he'd be ft hall of fame. donald trump has only served six months but he's in the running for worst president of all time. >> i think what's important for president trump to realize is that he is the president to everyone in this country. >> in the eyes of the people who voted for donald trump, he's a very successful president. they sent him there to shake things up and he does that by the hour, by the tweet. >> what little he has done has seemed to be motivated very much by fear and by hate. >> i think successful presidencies impact the ethos of the country. how people see themselves and how they see others. >> great leaders eat last. the best leader is the biggest servant of the lowest person on the ladder, not the one that gets the biggest cheer. >> you have to be focused, relentlessly toward a goal, and he clearly is not and his white house is not. >> i think at this stage the only fair answer is an incomplete. i don't think there's ever been a successful or unsuccessful president where you could have predicted for sure six months in. >> i don't think he's worried about being re-elected. i think he's putting everything on the line to push his agenda without worrying about another term. >> donald trump never made the pivot to become president of the united states. >> you have to remember that harry truman left office, the universal judgment was that he was a failure. history has looked back now and decided that he was actually a very good president at that time. it's hard to see how donald trump gets to the end of four years where he reverses what appears to be his instincts to tweet and have chaos around him all the time. >> all right. now what do you guys think? eliana, every president has a reset moment. this reset moment is coming awfully early. >> it is. i disagree with what corey lewandowski said, who by the way is appearing at a fund-raiser august 3rd for a republican ohio gubernatorial candidate. >> now we know the motivation there. >> despite his claim he has no business interest in this. but people voted for trump because they supported his agenda and let trump be trump. they voted for trump because he wasn't hillary for many reasons. but the shakeup is coming early. reince priebus failed at his job because trump didn't empower him to do it. if he was interested in enacting trump's agenda, he would have quit on the second day when he was undermined and incapable of doing it. general kelly, i think, hopefully will be empowered to do the job. he didn't tow the line in the obama administration, he spoke out against the policies at guantanamo. i think for that reason there's some hope that he will quit if he's not empowered to do his job, but those are the sorts of people i think this president should be hiring and who the country should be looking at, people who are going to speak out and quit their jobs if the president doesn't empower them to do them. >> you know, there was -- at the pentagon when it was announced on friday that general kelly was going to be the next chief of staff, several people said, well, you need this sort of four-star general. these are men who know how to get things done, they know how to get people to follow orders and that's all very true, but also to be a successful white house chief of staff, you've got to come with a little bit -- a lot of political know-how, and there i think we could see some issues coming up with general kelly. as a four-star general, he knows how to talk to congress, he knows how to appear on capitol hill and he knows how to schmooze, but there's a lot more to that to this job. this is a job that is so down and dirty in the roman coliseum with gladiators from all different sides and trying to get all these egos in line. i'm just a little bit -- i love to see general kelly and scaramucci in their first meeting. i can't believe you haven't brought this up yet. >> i think we're all trying to figure out scaramucci and kelly. >> it's so easy to be a partisan hack here. look, the power of the white house matters, right, and when you look at what's happening in the white house, when does chaos become dangerous, right? you know, when is the white house becoming a locker room become problematic, right? we need people around the globe to respect the white house and the white house is shrinking and being diminished. that is a problem for us around the globe when our -- when our allies don't think that they can respect to negotiator talk with a locker room. that's the problem that's happening right now. it is tonal. it is about diminishing the white house. when you see scaramucci and those guys behave that way, it makes the white house a smaller place. >> my analogy, not coliseum, not locker room, chp had a series "deadwood" and i think reince priebus was doc cochran and now they're hoping that general kelly is sheriff bullock, but swearington and cy are still running the place and the legislature, who is donald trump, has no idea whas going on. the most important enter enter last week was andrea mitchell talking with general dunford. we have a war cabinet right now of general kelly, jim mattis, joe dufford, mike pompeo, tom cotton is the president's favorite senator. there's a huge story in the background and a very competent team, but the deadwood shooting has to stop. >> i think some people worry it's not deadwood, it's quentin tarantino. anyway, before we go to break. this evening on "sunday night with megyn kelly" kate snow is doing a report on whether talc may increase the risk of ovarian cancer. an important study worth watching tonight. that of course is tonight at 7:00/6:00 central on nbc. we're back in 45 seconds with end game and something we never thought we'd hear. coming up, end game brought to you by boeing. continuing our mission to i got a mortgage offer from the bank today. whuuuuuat? 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>> sea change from what's been happening in the republican party. if you go back eight, nine years ago and listen to what republicans were saying, conser conservatives about this, it was a wedge issue. god bless america, we have changed sides. >> i think it's a huge wedge issue. i think donald trump is a traditional its in a strange body, the body of a manhattan millionaire. and i think -- i do think that middle america -- donald trump, isaiah berlin, hedge hog and the fox. donald trump is the fox. he understood one big thing and it's the cultural estrangement of middle america from the eastern elites. the eastern elites are the republican senators whose views have changed on these things too. it's a bipartisan issue. >> interesting way to put it. we will leave it there. thank you, producer cooper. that's all for today. thanks for watching. guess what, not only are we back next week but every single sunday for the rest of the year. no more preemgss, i promise. because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." this morning russian retaliation as president trump prepares to sign a bill hitting moscow with new sanctions. vladimir putin strikes back cutting hundreds of u.s. diplomatic staff. plus a show of force. president trump is voicing his frustration with china. and retired marine general john kelly takes over as president trump's chief of staff but can he get the agenda back in formation.
>> he didn't want to burden general kelly also with that line of succession as i think we've made clear a few times over the course of the last couple of days to several of these individually but general kelly has the full authority to operate within the white house and all staff will report to him. >> all staff will report to general kelly including ivanka trump and jared kushner which is a change in the chain of command at the white house because it used to be that ivanka and jared had their direct line of communication, scaramucci had a direct line of communication, bannon and chief of staff's office. that will all change. as to what will happen with scaramucci, we understand that he asked to return to the export/import bank to his previous position. no word yet from the white house as whether or not that will happen. when asked about it yesterday sarah huckabee sanders says he does not have a job in the administration currently but going back to xm. >> shannon: you have been rung down the reports that the president was involved in a statement that donald trump junior issued after meeting with the russian lawyer during the campaign and the meeting came to light. >> this happened a few weeks ago when the president was on his way back from the g-20 when it came out that donald trump junior had the meeting with the russian attorney as well as a number of colleagues of hers. the "washington post" is reporting last night and again today that the president dictated the initial statement in reaction to that aboard air force one on his way back. let's review what the initial statement was with you. it was a short introductory meeting. the adoption of russian children that was active and popular with american families years ago and ended by the russian government. it was not a campaign issue at the time. there was no follow-up. i was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance and not told the name of the person i would be meeting beforehand. that's july 8th. we've since found out that by looking at an email chain the initial offer from the attorney and the people associated with her was that she had dirt on hillary clinton that may or may not have come from the russian government she wanted to share. it turned out that information was of no consequence. getting some degree of pushback here on the idea that the president dictated that particular initial statement. jay sekulow, one of the president's outside counsel. apart of being no consequence they're inaccurate and not permanent. talking with other sources there does appear to be a bit of a disconnect between that statement was that initially made and what don junior and his associates were initially prepared to do. they wanted full disclosure of the emails and more transparency rather than that statement that came out initially. >> shannon: john roberts live at the white house. >> bill: a ton to analyze right now. fox news contributor rich lowry with me in studio. we'll see whether or not it's a new day as a lot of people say for the last 24 hours. politico writes the following. kelly assembled senior aides in his office and laid down rules of the road. more accountable. more limitations and access, more structure, better briefings and information for the president. white house staff where everyone reports to kelly. is that where we're going? >> that's exactly the right approach. if the white house will get on the right track it's what they need. since they've been getting so many basic things wrong, bill, righting the ship should be relatively easy. a more orderly process in the oval office ending the zoo in there where anyone can come in at any time and bend the president's ear on anything. more orderly process and making a strategic communications plan that they follow through. >> bill: you might agree with charles krauthammer when he said the following last night. >> the trump administration hit bottom last week and seems to have bounced off the bottom and if the president will allow kelly some control over the president's own unrestrained impulses, that is tweeting, that will be a tremendous advantage and it would give this administration a chance of succeeding. >> bill: a lot of people have an issue with tweeting. his supporters don't think that. he went 24 hours without one and one fired off 15 minutes ago. >> you have to hope the scaramucci interview with "the new yorker" was rock bottom in terms of the chaos and the ouster of him sent a clear message that kelly now is in charge. and people say trump can never change? that's true in the most fundamental sense but we saw during the campaign there was a discernible difference between -- he was different it it might have been enough to get him over the top. >> bill: i wonder what the negotiations were like with secretary kelly. the "washington post", what john roberts mentioned. whether true or not we'll see where it goes. whoever leaked that story was on board air force one and that's a small circle, rich >> it goes to the point that everyone in that white house has been talking to reporters constantly. so it's not -- scaramucci will stop the leaks and fire people. it's not the low level people you worry about. it's the very top levels of the white house felt they had to talk to reporters to protect themselves, to promote their own agendas and another task for kelly is can you make the white house staff less factionalized so they don't feel they have to cover themselves. you can't stop leaking but you want to manage it. leaking can be useful if you're putting out the correct kind of leak to help push your agenda rather than the sort of back biting. >> bill: a twisted loop. rich lowry, national review. >> shannon: breaking news overnight in venezuela as chaos in the socialist regime continues. opposition leaders being dragged from their homes and placed in custody. their whereabouts are unknown and many suspect president mod era is responsible. new sanctions were slapped on him. steve, why is this happening now? >> it's clear by the nature of these raids that venezuela's president is trying to intimidate the opposition. the raids took place after midnight in the homes of two prominent opposition leaders. in each of the cases because of security video or family members filming you can hear family members scream they're taking my husband and father away. one was in his pajamas dragged away and his daughter is screaming it's a dictatorship. to put fear into the heart of opposition. both leaders are former mayors of caracas and under house arrest and called for public opposition to what mad ear owe is trying to do now. rewrite the constitution. >> shannon: it's terrifying video in a country where we have a lot of freedom. what can the u.s. do about this in a foreign nation? >> the u.s. took more steps yesterday. they put the president under sanctions barring him from any activity, economic activity with the u.s. his reaction to that was really just snide. he said bring on more sanctions, donald trump. the real question is will the u.s. go further for oil sanctions. any sanctions against venezuela's oil industry could devastate that country's economy. the risk is it could increase the suffering of the venezuelan people. they've called him a dictator. so far no hits against the oil industry. that will be the big test if the u.s. is willing to go that far to push things. >> shannon: it takes it to another level. >> bill: one thing that really drives this story home for folks in this country is to see people on black an white video being taken from their homes. >> shannon: family members are screaming. >> bill: takes the story to a new level. two other big stories. president trump pushing republicans try again on healthcare. republican senator jeff flake says it's time for a new way. >> i think we've about reached the limits of what we can do with one party. i think we'll have to involve the other party. we tried. i voted for it. i would have liked to have kept healthcare alive that way. >> bill: what is next? jeff flake the senator from arizona is our guest next live. >> shannon: the scars of war clearly visible on the faces of those left behind as isis retreats in iraq. the urgent call for aid as doctors in that city warn of a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions. >> we are helpless from our government, from our politicians. are you getting the help from the government you need? >> we get talk. hundreds of dollars on youmy car insurance. saved me huh. i should take a closer look at geico... 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jeff flake. the white house is saying don't move on from healthcare, get it done. to that you say what? >> we need to get it done more than 200,000 arizonians will make up this morning without healthcare. they will have paid the fines and still can't afford to have a policy. equal or larger number will have a policy but can't afford to use it because the deductibles are too high. we need reform. we're at the end of the rope in terms of trying to do it alone, though. i just can't see how we're going to get just as republicans. >> bill: the people in your home state you wonder how could john mccain cast the vote he did knowing the facts you're laying out. >> john mccain has preached from day one we need to have regular order and do it in the right way through committee. his vote was consistent with his approach and i respect that. >> bill: ted cruz says republicans will get an earful and he would argue deserve addly so. >> we've been saying forever we need to fix this and we weren't able to do so. so i think we ought to stick with it certainly. but i think we ought to do it in a way we can actually see the end. and the end is going to be sitting down with our colleagues from the other side of the aisle and getting something passed. >> bill: we'll figure out what democrats are willing to give on that and we'll discuss that. a great debate today. does an effective tax strategy make it better or easier for republicans? >> easier. what the president put out with the policy particulars, it's republican orthodoxy, lower the rates, broaden the base. i hope we can move forward. it is vital now for republicans to move forward on tax reform. >> bill: the book you've written is getting a lot of attention because many have seen it as your dislike of the president. i see it differently but this is one of the quotes you give on screen. if this was our bargain, it was not worth it. if ultimately our principles were so mailable as to no longer be -- your criticism doesn't start now, it starts with president bush 43. no child left behind. prescription drug medication not paid for. you are an anti-big government senator so how then does donald trump fit into those principles? >> i got to congress in 2001, myself and mike pence ran conservative think tanks in the 90s. we got to congress with vim and vigor ready to go and mike joked one time saying i feel like we're minutemen arriving at the battlefront and told the revolution is over. and that's how we felt. we got no child left behind. prescription drug benefit and in 2006 we were turned out of the majority and lost the white house in 2008. so this problem of principle that we're having now didn't start with president trump. it started long before. some of the policies the president has put forward, policies of isolationism, those are foreign to conservatives. we've always believed in free trade and conservatives have always been more steady in demeanor and comportment. that means something. chaos is not a good principle. >> bill: you are making the case for the party to get back on its principles and you said you also let -- you'll oppose the president when you think he is wrong and support him when you think he is right and you said why you think he is wrong. tell us when you believe he has been right. >> he appointed a great supreme court justice neil gorsuch. on regulatory policy he has been right. our economy has been badly over regulated. tax policies are right. he is wrong on free trade to turn down the tpp or trans-pacific partnership will haunt us for years. not just in terms of the economy but in geopolitical areas as well. these countries particularly in southeast asia need to be in our trade orbit, not just china. we'll be left behind in the world that is already globalized if they don't enter into free trade agreements. >> bill: a statement from barry goldwater is the title of the book. 21 past, shannon. >> shannon: early in his presidency president reagan used addresses from the oval office to help him connect with voters. >> this is not the time for political fun and games. this is the time for a new beginning. >> shannon: one of our guests thinks president trump can do the same thing to drive his message home and much more right after the break. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. >> bill: president trump awarding a medal of honor for actions in combat during the vietnam war to this man. honored for risk his life to help 10 wounded soldiers despite serious injure sees of his own. >> the strength and pride of our nation was beating inside of jim's heart. jim did what his father had taught him. he gave it his all. he was prepared to lay down his life so his brothers in arms could live theirs. >> bill: five men whose lives he helped save were there to watch him receive that medal at the white house. well done. >> we have the highest stock market in history. we have gdp on friday. got very little mention. 2.6 is a number that nobody thought they would see for a long period of time. the enthusiasm level is incredible. we have a lot of tremendous things going. >> shannon: president trump praising the performance of his markets. the dow rising to 60 points yesterday to finish out the day at 21,891. the president continued to tap the economy this morning. stock market could hit all-time high again. 22,000 today. we're watching closely. with 18,000 only six months ago on election day. mainstream media seldom mentions. joining me from the fox business network maria bartiromo. he is talking about the markets up. wages up. depends who you ask whether he should get credit for that in part, full or not at all. >> the truth is things are definitely getting better. we're near full employment when you look at where we are in terms of jobs. we're seeing a much better confidence in terms of individuals as well as executives and as a result there is a little more spending on the part of businesses. that's really been where the recession has been. businesses have been sitting on cash for a decade because they were strangled by regulation. they didn't know what was around the corner. i think there is no question the stock market rally initially was totally because of the aemtion -- anticipation of president trump. people saw his policies as a massive tax cut going to have an impact on the economy. earlier in the year when the president first took office, there was a lot of anticipation that he would get tax reform and healthcare done. a couple months into it the expectations plummeted and it's when the markets stop rallying and actually what happened was profits started coming in better than expected. you have a strong back drop because corporations are making strong profit reports and you are talking about profits up 6% in the second quarter on top of a 15% gain in profits in the first quarter. revenue. sometimes earnings you can manipulate to cut costs and you keep cutting things until earnings get better and better but you can't manipulate revenue. revenue is what the company is generating. revenue is expected to be up 6% in the second quarter. there you're seeing better than expected numbers. initially yes, it was all about the trump rally. today it's anticipation that the president will get his policies through like tax reform but also a back drop that has gotten better. businesses are doing much better. >> shannon: let's talk about the worry folks have. traditionally august to october the markets aren't usually on fire. if there are corrections that would be the time period. it's slower. what should we look forward trying to hammer out tax reform and the white house saying we're not done with healthcare but the hill saying we're moving to taxes. >> we need to see some evidence that tax reform will take hold. no doubt when you lower taxes and see a tax reform package it will have an impact on the economy. i spoke with kevin brady and paul ryan and he said to me there is no way we'll get to 3% economic growth without tax reform. even though profits are driving this market now, it started with the anticipation of what president trump can bring to the table, then profits took over. if we don't see tax reform i think we'll see a massive sell-off in that market. there is expectations priced in that we'll get tax reform. if we don't see tax reform this year it could be a problem for the market, no doubt about it. >> shannon: less than 10 seconds away from the open. the president is trying to do it. do you think he could do more to message on the economy. a bright spot for them. he says mainstream media isn't recognizing the things we've gotten done. we're starting around 80 points up for the open. >> waiting on dow 22,000. that's what people will be excited about once the market hits 22,000 which looks like it will be imminently here. look, the truth is the president does get in his own way. oftentimes he has a very successful day in terms of what they're doing at the white house. he had all the governors and senators in a couple of weeks ago to talk about healthcare. he could have really built that up and talked about that a lot. instead he came out and went on social media and started trashing jeff sessions. there are areas where the president gets in his own way. he could be talking about this a lot more. we're talking about it on the fox business network every day. i believe this rally partly is attributable to president trump, no doubt but the president instead of constantly backing that off and talking about what he has done and how he expects things to continue to get better gets in his own way by talking about things that really are not a positive story for him like trashing jeff sessions. >> shannon: 14 points off the new 22,000 record everybody wants to see. good to see you. >> bill: amazing thing to watch. >> shannon: you're excited. >> bill: 4,000 points in six or seven months you never see that. >> we took a long time to get to 21,000. this market could back and fill for a little even though we're that close to 22,000. >> bill: let's enjoy the day. in a moment a conservative watchdog group calling for an investigation into debbie wasserman schultz and her i.t. staffer arrested for bank fraud. that story moments away right here. and new favorites like dueling crab legs with dungeness and snow crab. it's happening right now right here at crabfest. red lobster. now this is seafood. >> shannon: president trump's new chief of staff retired general john kelly taking charge inside the west wing. anthony scaramucci out as white house communications director. kelly will have greater control over which staffers have access directly to the president. president trump down playing claims of an administration in turmoil tweeting a great day at the white house. great to see you this morning, governor huckabee. we know that the general is now in charge. your daughter has told us from the white house he has the power to round things up. people will report to him. here is what the "washington post" has to say. less unclear is whether kelly will be able to curb the president's inclination to subvert pecking orders. his tendency to encourage rivalry among his staff and insistence on managing his own message through social media that have often undermined his aides. do you see those things changing? >> if a four star marine general can't get it done, it can't happen. i think it's a smart move to put general kelly in place. he is a good person, a strong person, and i really believe that the president recognizes that he needs to bring some order and discipline to the white house and john kelly is just the guy to make that happen. >> shannon: how about the president's legislative agenda now? that's a heavy lift with the failure thus far of healthcare. tax reform, infrastructure, debt ceiling, coming. folks think there hasn't been the biggest stability and organization on the legislative front. do you anticipate general kelly's arrival will change that? >> i think the biggest need for change there is that republicans in congress need to start acting like republicans. they need to work with this president. you have a bunch of people in congress who are republican but they were never trum pers. if they drain the swamp some of them will be drained with it and i don't see it as much a white house issue as a leadership issue in the house and senate. getting these guys to recognize that the american people voted for donald trump to be president and in the republican party they overwhelmingly nominated him. they need to get in step with their own party more than get in step with donald trump and when i say that get in step with the american people who are sick and tired of washington as usual and want there to be some change or i think some of them will be changed out in the next election. >> shannon: to that point just moments ago bill spoke with senator flake out of arizona, a republican. he talked about this idea of republicanism, conservatism, trump, principles. here is what he says about that stew. >> this crisis of principle that we're having now didn't start with president trump. it started long before but i think some of the policies that the president has put forward, policies of protectionism and isolationism those are foreign to conservatives. we've always believed in free trade and conservatives have always been more, you know, more steady in demeanor. >> shannon: is the white house, the president at loggerheads with conservatives? >> no. i think the problem is you've got globalists like jeff flake who are in total disarray with real conservatives. conservatives want america to be strong not interested in being global and melting into a great big international economy. they want americans to have good paychecks. we do believe in free trade but that it's fair and not getting sucker punched by china, people in europe and around the world. they want america to be strong and unapologetic. as far as other issues that are truly republican we're a pro-life party, shannon. you have republicans that won't vote to defund the biggest abortion provider in the u.s., planned parenthood. it is not a problem with the president. it's a problem of some of these republicans who don't know what it means and don't understand why did people elect donald trump? he is enacting pro-life policies, pro business policies. you guys have been talking about the stock market. we're approaching 22,000. that sure didn't happen when republicans were running things just in congress and obama was president. give this president some credit for some extraordinary successes. >> shannon: and his son, eric, last night talking about it's fact it's time for the party to get on board with his father because he is representing the voice of the american people. we'll talk more about that. thank you, governor. >> bill: from overseas isis has been defeated in mosul but there is a growing humanitarian crisis now playing out in iraq's second largest city. doctors say they're desperately short of all the basics and lives hang in the balance because of it. our partner sky news on the ground there witnessing this first-hand. >> we came out of the house. we wanted to run away but a bullet came out of the blue. i didn't feel a thing but i knew i was falling to the ground. >> we need help right here in mosul. we need it now. we need it and it is very urgent. we are are helpless from our government, from our politicians. >> bill: are you getting the help from the government that you need? >> we get talk. we get the help of talk. >> we have a relationship with the coalition forces we report this to them and they come and dispose of it as we do not have the capable to dispose of weapons. >> how long will it take? >> a couple of weeks maybe. >> bill: mosul was liberated early in the summer after a long and bloody fight. aide workers need surgeons, wheelchairs and things to help heal the scores of civilians. the human toll those people have gone through over the past year plus. >> shannon: liberating mosul was just the beginning of the healing there. it will take a long time and we shouldn't forget. we're learning more on how inmates use something from the kitchen to bust out of jail. more on that plus the latest on the manhunt for the final fugitive of those 12 still on the run. >> bill: can president trump take a page from the great communicator's big. the author makes his case next about ronald reagan. >> i ask you now to put aside any feelings of frustration or helplessness about our political institutions and join me in that dramatic but responsible plan to reduce the enormous burden of federal taxation on you and your families. >> many of you have asked what can you do to help make america strong again. i urge you again to contact your senators and congressmen. tell them of your support for this bipartisan proposal. tell them you believe this is an unequaled opportunity to help return america to prosperity and make government again the servant of the people. >> bill: that was 1981. ronald reagan using the power of the oval office to sell his agenda on tax reform. my next guest makes the case president trump should take a lesson from the great communicator. bill mcgurn. a fox news contributor. good to see you. the title is trump's unused bully pulpit. make your case. >> donald trump has been an effective communicator for all the mistakes on twitter, he has connected with people that republicans have had a hard time reaching. it was astonishing he didn't use the greatest stage of all for a president the oval office. go to the rallies attended by your supporters. when you do a prime time oval office address before a vote, you really get a lot of attention. even people that hate you have to tune in. it's the only chance for a party especially a republican party when you have the press against you to push back on the democratic narrative. in this case that they were hurting the poor and so forth. >> bill: let me just from your piece with regard to the republican effort of healthcare, this does not mean the dead bills notwithstanding the many compromises, their merits went mostly unsold to the public. even more astounding is the narrative took hold the president of the united states neglected the greatest bully pulpit of all, the oval office. perhaps he knew that healthcare wasn't there yet. >> that's what reagan knew in 1981. he didn't have the votes for the tax cuts. he gave that speech two days before the house voted. that's what a president does that can make the marginal difference in swaying some people. look, it wasn't just ronald reagan. you look at how the times reported that speech. they said reagan delivered a number of partisan shots. when i worked in the white house in september of 2007 president bush's popularity was very low, new democratic congress that wanted us out of iraq. he gave an oval office address on war funding because he fought it and fought back on the democratic narrative. are they voting against the troops. >> bill: they heard from their congressman. >> i think the democrats and their allies in the media will run the same game on the tax cuts. it is robbing the poor to pay for the rich. and the oval office, you can't use it too often but it is a place for the president to make his case to the people and put pressure on congress. >> bill: in summation the oval might be necessary this fall on tax reform. >> i think so. i think it's necessary in any big question before the american people. you know, before congress. that's why you address people directly from that stage. it is very powerful even in an age of instagram and twitter. >> bill: no doubt. the "wall street journal" today, bill mcgurn. nice to have you. what's next? >> shannon: the trump administration reaching a deal with several texas counties to crack down on illegal immigration. details on that just ahead. >> bill: republican lawmakers trying to refocus their agenda. more from obamacare repeal and tax reform. that story and what you need to know next. >> what happened last week, the white house and senate come together unifying on principles on tax reform creating that urgency. we need to deliver this year. we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you trust #1 doctor recommended dulcolax. use dulcolax tablets for gentle dependable relief. suppositories for relief in minutes. and dulcoease for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax. designed for dependable relief. >> bill: chicago cubs righting a wrong. steve bartman will get a ring. he reached for a foul ball. 14 years ago when the hapless cubs were only a few outs from going to the world series. bartman went into 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of every arrestee who comes through. participating counties will be linked into the vast computer database that ice maintains. if corrections staff get a hit that someone in their jail is in the country illegally, the county then calls the feds and turns them over. >> i like every county in texas, every county in the united states to sign up so public safety threats don't go back into the communities and commit crimes against citizens of this country. >> about 60 jurisdictions across the country are currently enrolled in this. 19 of them being in texas. more than any other state so far. >> shannon: i would imagine this is not without controversy, though. understand not every sheriff is on board with this. >> that's correct. as you know there has been a large clash in this state really between lawmakers and those who enforce the laws. that has been specific to the passage of sb4 here, quite controversial cutting off funding to sanctuary cities and lets cops inquire about a suspect's immigration status. critics like the sheriff of dallas county say it's having a chilling effect on the state's large immigrant population. >> certain communities who reported crime before are not reporting it anymore. so what is that saying to us? crime is being committed and nobody is taking care of it. >> not just county law enforcement, either. houston's chief of police, city police also been a very vocal opponent of this. local cops say it is not their job to enforce immigration law, shannon. they maintain that is the feds' role. >> shannon: when they partner that raises interesting questions on all sides. casey siegel. thank you very much. >> bill: in 25 minutes trading on the dow. is today the day we're headed to 22,000? this is rarified a air for investors. up 70 points, 21,959 at the moment. we'll see whether or not we top out yet again at a new record. stand by on that. >> shannon: watch those twitter feeds. he will let you know when it happens. the pentagon saying new details 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arizona. >> we desperately need reform. i think we're at the end of the rope in terms of trying to do it alone. we weren't able to fix it. so i think we ought to stick with it certainly, but i think we ought to do it in a way we can actually see the end and the end is going to be sitting down with our colleagues from the other side of the aisle. >> bill: that from last hour here on our program. mike emanuel live on the hill. good morning to you. what are you hearing from senators about the president's push for healthcare reform now? >> republican senators are expressing frustration because they don't see a path to 50 yes vote. orrin hatch telling reuters there is just too much animosity and we're too divided on healthcare. yet south carolina senator lindsey graham is selling a plan he thinks would do a lot of good. >> we're going to do away with -- we'll take the other taxes and we're going to block grant it back to about $500 billion, governors are excited. they met in the white house and here is what the governors told me. if you give me this money and flexibility i'll take care of the people in south carolina better than washington would take care of them. >> he met with president trump last friday morning hours after the senate came up short. we'll see if his proposal gains momentum. >> bill: what about expectations about the next steps on healthcare? >> as lawmakers move forward to other pressing issues like the budget, debt ceiling and tax reform it sounds like the committee that handles health issues in the senate will sit down and work on smaller solutions to address problems. >> i wouldn't be surprised this week if the health committee doesn't come out with an agenda of things they want to get into serious issues that need to be resolved, similar bipartisan things are happening in the house of representatives and where we should have started months ago. >> for example. congress will likely need steps to shore up the individual insurance markets. >> bill: thanks from the hill there. >> shannon: more on this let's bring in guy benson. political editor -- end of discussion today, a great book. you don't want to miss that. there is a lot going on in washington in the meantime. a number of senators saying we're done with this. it's over. close the chapter. you had mick mulvaney, the leader of the budget department, former member on the hill and house side saying no, the white house still wants to stay on healthcare senator john cornyn says he needs is doing their thing and they want to move on. >> mulvaney saying there should be no significant votes on other legislation, anything, until healthcare gets passed. i think that the white house is probably channeling a lot of conservative and republican voters still sitting around saying it's been seven years, you guys, you couldn't get the vote done last week. can you maybe get to 50 votes somehow. it sounds like there are certain members of the senate working towards that, lindsey graham, bill cassidy, rand paul was at the white house but based on what we just heard in some of those sound bites and what you're reporting leadership and key members of committees sounding awfully like they are eager to move on. >> shannon: we had governor huckabee on last hour and he talked about the fact that the problems are on the hill. they need to get it together as republicans as a party. here is what he said. >> republicans in congress need to start acting like republicans. they need to work with this president. you have a bunch of people in congress who are republican but never trumpers. they don't want this president to succeed. if they drain the swamp some of them will be drained with it. >> shannon: they need each other to get big things like healthcare done. >> when we talk about the healthcare votes there are 52 republican senators. 49 of them were willing to vote to move the process forward. it was just those three. mccain, mer kowski and collins voted along with the democrats to obstruct progress. not like there is a widespread opposition to the president's asgend among republicans on the hill. lest voters and viewers forget the house of representatives passed a healthcare bill and they were working hard on this. let's say for the sake of argument that they are going to turn the page to tax reform. this is another really thorny, difficult, broad legislative effort with many moving parts and complexities. in theory you would think the republican party, if nothing else, could get on the same page to reform a broken tax code. you would also think after seven years of saying they were going to repeal a healthcare law they would have a plan they could unify. i get the frustration with the gop right now. they deserve it. >> shannon: senator rand paul keeps having conversations about how they could move forward on healthcare. he says after a conversation with the president he should consider or that he may be considering using executive action. i went back and checked. under the obama administration 43 changes were made to the affordable care act by the administrative branch. they delayed the employer mandate for a year through a treasury blog post. there are things that he could do in this add min ministration. >> the president tweeted about two of them on saturday. he talked about ending bail-outs to congress and to insurance companies. these were decisions made at the executive level by the obama administration a couple of years ago that gave a special carve-out to members of congress and their staffs. it is illegal. a federal judge ruled that as well. same with insurance company bail-out with stability funds. i think the market gets less stable and there are policy problems but in terms of propping up a law with taxpayer money that hasn't been appropriated by congress, if barack obama was going to govern with a pen and phone donald trump can do the same thing. those are two options he is seriously considering. i think the congressional one is a no-brainer. why should congress get a special deal to get around the law that they imposed on americans? that's outrageous and also illegal. to me it's a slam dunk for trump. >> shannon: there are plenty of folks across the spectrum who agree they have major concerns with that. we'll see if it changes. congratulations on paper back and good to see you today. >> bill: breaking news out of north carolina. the latest missile test icbm pentagon saying the latest test over the weekend traveled the highest and longest to date. meanwhile vice president mike pence speaking to fox news overseas this morning about china's efforts to try to ease tensions. >> that policy has failed and earlier this year president trump made it very clear that the era of strategic patience is over. we're calling on our allies in the region to strengthen both economic and diplomatic pressure on north korea. calling on china to do more. >> bill: that from earlier. now from the pentagon lucas tomlinson joins me live. what is believed to be in range of the north korean missiles? >> good morning. officials say most of the united states is now in range from some of north korea's missiles after analyzing data from friday's record-setting intercontinental ballistic missile test which the pentagon says traveled higher and farther than any before. the height of north korea's second test was the most concerning. the missile flew 2300 miles in space, 600 miles higher than the july 4th test and six minutes longer and their ability to mount a warhead with the ability to reenter the earth's atmosphere. the u.s. military tested its thaad system. it shot down a medium range ballistic missile. the government in seoul says it wants four more launchers to protect themselves. officials here at the pentagon are seeing signs of increased north korean submarine activity and believe that north korea's next missile test could come from beneath the sea. >> bill: does the u.s. military plan to conduct more missile tests at this moment? >> it does, bill. the u.s. air force is planning to conduct a long range missile test of its own sometime early tomorrow morning. the fourth test that the air force's minuteman three missile. lots of focus on missile defense, the u.s. has a sizeable missile offense with 400 of these missiles located in silos across air force bases in montana, wyoming and north korea and submarines can deliver nuclear tests as well. it will than launched from california and travel 4,000 miles into the pacific. >> bill: see how it goes. there is a lot of activity surrounding that geopolitical mail tear story -- military story at the moment. >> shannon: in the meantime eric trump says it's past time for republicans to fight for his father's agenda. >> i want somebody to start fighting for him. he is the best fighter in the world. he will do a better job fighting for himself than all of them will fighting for him. >> shannon: is there a disconnect between president trump and party 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becoming the focus of a criminal investigation. he was fired last week after being charged with bank fraud. arrested trying to leave the u.s. marie harf and molly hemingway. the ethics complaint digs into why this guy barred from accessing the house i.t. system for months was still on the payroll. the congresswoman's office said they had him help with printers and websites and kept paying him. does it pass the sniff test? >> it sounds bizarre to me. i'm willing to criticize democrats even though it's my party. we should get some answers here. what is interesting to me is these conservative watchdog groups are focused on relitigating investigating hillary clinton and deber wasserman schultz and they're focused on relitigating the players here and focused on other things. let's get to the bottom of this and get answers. >> shannon: this is a very 2017 situation here that we have, molly. let's tell folks about what we know about this i.t. staffer. he faces one count of bank fraud where he got a loan on a rental property and wired the money to pakistan is the allegations. worked for a couple of dozen house democrats. double charged the house for i.t. equipment and may have exposed house information online. there were a number of his family members also doing some of this work and they all were charged with very similar allegations. >> right. arrested on bank fraud charges fleeing the country. but mishandling of equipment and information. he had access to sensitive information working for people who are on the foreign affairs committee, intel committees. it is debbie wasserman schultz's behavior that's intriguing. other people let him go. she kept him on and there was a hearing where she threatened consequences to capitol police if they kept investigating the story. people should be worried about blackmail or something. this is weird behavior and such sensitive information that -- and we just need to know more. hopefully she can be a little more forthright what she was doing and ethics committee and investigation is a perfect way to find out more about her bizarre behavior. >> shannon: you seem to agree there are more things we need to know and you have questions. also want to talk about eric trump. he says i don't think republicans are getting an board with my father. it seems to a lot of people there are growing splits between gop leadership on the hill and what the white house thinks should be done and here is eric trump last night. >> i want somebody to start fighting for him. republicans are raising seven times on a monthly basis what the dnc. why wouldn't they embrace that and carry out -- my father has the voice of this country. the people of this country love him. why wouldn't they get in line? >> shannon: why wouldn't they and have they not? >> people talk about how norms keep being broken. one of the norms that's most interesting that has been broken is the refusal to accept the reality that donald trump is president. you see a lot of that on the left but you also see it on the right. i think it is frustrating for a lot of people who voted for donald trump to see republicans on the hill not taking the ball and running with it. they don't have to embrace trump's agenda but they have control of the houses and accomplishing much. a president willing to sign anything that comes through this house and senate. why is more not being done and why is there so much resistance in the republican party? >> shannon: final word, marie. i suppose you like the levers aren't working smoothly together to get things done on the trump agenda. >> support is earned. last week we saw the president go after republicans in his own party. he has threatened dean hiller a sitting senator. last week he went after jeff sessions loved by other republicans on capitol hill. if he wants support from other republicans he needs to start supporting them. he needs to start being a team player and he needs to stop this incredibly destructive behavior we're they are attacking their own and preventing them getting anything on their agenda through and average republicans are frustrated. he has his base but it is not all republicans. that's 20 to 30% of the country. he needs to do more to bring his own party together. >> shannon: it takes all those votes to get things done on the hill. thank you both very much. >> bill: 20 minutes past the hour now. a manhunt is underway for an inmate who escaped out of an alabama jail. what we're learning how a dozen escaped from prison. >> shannon: the attorney general jeff sessions following up on a big promise. news is coming cracking down on leaks coming from inside the white house. the administration. what we're hearing about a big announcement this week. >> we're stepping up those cases. it can't continue. some people need to go to jail. if we can make cases they are going to jail. >> bill: one man still on the loose after a jail break in alabama. a dozen inmates were in on the plan. the sheriff said they used peanut butter to trick a new prison guard into opening a door. >> it was a human error that caused this to happen. and some of the inmates being pretty smart on what their plan was changing some numbers on the door with peanut butter. that may sound crazy, but these people are crazy like a fox. >> shannon: sound bite of the day. police captured 11 of the 12 prisoners. a manhunt continues for the last fugitive. 24-year-old brady andrew kilpatrick. a $500 reward for information leading to his arrest. >> i think we feel that not only it's something that we would like to do, something we have to do this year. that i think is an aggressive schedule but it is our timetable and hope have completion by mid-november. >> bill: talking about speaking about tax reform. he argues the white house hopes to have a tax plan written this month so mark-ups can begin and you can have this debate play out in september and october. tim phillips is the president of americans with pros -- prosperity. do you like what you're hearing so far? >> it's a good tax blueprint and starts to unrig the economy. it lowers rates across the board. that's a good thing on the individual and corporate side. it also hopefully makes the tax code more simple especially for small businesses and individuals on the margins. last thing it would double the standard deduction from 12,000 to 24,000. the first 24 thousand of income they aren't paying tax on. simplification and lower rates. >> bill: what do you think the healthcare defeat did for this? >> it raises the stakes. it is an epic failure on healthcare. they can get this economy doing but it raises the stakes for them. >> bill: i was talking with kevin brady and he said the following getting the message out to americans and selling this idea. >> in tax reform i don't care who you are, this code is too complex. it is too costly. there is too many special breaks. we know our businesses aren't competing. we start from a different standpoint. secondly, just what you mentioned, the white house, the house, senate are unified on this approach and the key principles. >> bill: you are talking that they've been chasened by what happened on healthcare. if that's the case this message will be how much different? >> they have to take a strong message to the american people selling the benefits. what success looks like. in 1986, the last time it was done you and i were young guys then. it dramatically expanded prosperity for every american across every income bracket. across the board. job creation that resulted. same thing in 2001 and 2003. that was a tax cut but tax reform. it expanded revenues to the government because tax cuts generate actual activity. they stimulate economics. one other thing. they have to talk about how this unrigs the economy and makes it fair for folks. the wealthy and well-connected they do with their lobbyist. go for flatter rates across the board. >> steve mnuchin about the topics of the rich. >> we're talking about lowering the top rate but offsetting it with elimination of huge deductions. for most people in the top rate they won't get a tax cut. >> bill: address that. steve bannon is talking about something in the 40% area. you believe the wealthy create jobs. that's what you've been preaching. how do you square that with their idea >> rates won't be raised. deductions need to be done away with. for example. the blueprint the trump folks are supporting calls for ending the deduction for state and local taxes paid. that benefits 9 out of 10 to wealthy folks. folks at the top. so that's the kind of deductions that he is talking about. it will make the code more fair. let's have rates that actually are the rates instead of having a bunch of deductions that rig things and normally it favors folks at the top. that's the kind of deductions the secretary is talking about and actually the one i mentioned is in the blueprint that they are talking about right now. >> bill: off we go into the fall. do you believe it will get done? >> i do this year. >> bill: thanks for being here, tim phillips. almost 10:30. >> shannon: from tax reform to healthcare, republicans latest attempts to repeal obamacare falling flat on the senate floor last week. more democrats signaling they may be willing to work with the gop on some changes. an expert panel to discuss that. >> bill: a big message to president trump. declare a national emergency on the opioid crisis. >> drug abuse has become a crippling problem throughout the united states. we want to help those who have become so badly addicted. this is crabfest at red lobster. with choices like the classic crab lover's dream and new favorites like dueling crab legs with dungeness and snow crab. it's happening right now right here at crabfest. red lobster. now this is seafood. >> bill: getting word from the department of general. jeff sessions following through on a big request from the white house. he will hold a news conference about the number of leak cases pursued so far this year. in about two hours from now sessions will speak live to a group of law enforcement officials in atlanta with regard to the leak matter. we expect that on friday of this week. we're watching those for you and update you. >> the american people to learn through public reporting that the icbm fired by north korea in recent days could reach the entire continental united states. i expect it was very troubling to every american and president trump has no higher priority than the safety and security of the people of the united states. >> shannon: vice president mike pence making those remarks after learning north korea's missile test on friday was the longest in the history of the rogue regime. what to do now to protect the u.s. jack keane is the chairman of the study of war and fox news military analyst. good to see you. okay. so where do we go from here? because the tensions with north korea continue to ratchet up and continue to have success. they learn things that are new and giving them new information with each test. >> kim jung un's calculation is this. he has rejected his grandfather's these is and that of his father where they had nuclear weapons pointed at south korea, a sufficient deterrent to prevent the united states from ever conducting regime change. what kim jung uncalculates is he has to hold the american people at risk to prevent any regime change in north korea and why this accelerated icbm program threatening the american people. to prevent that regime change from taking place and he also calculates that the united states will not -- i say again will not go to war over this issue. that the united states will acquiesce to his having a nuclear icbms much as we acquiesced to him having nuclear weapons and to china after them a number of years ago. that's the calculation. trump team is all in here and wants to deny kim jung unfrom having nuclear icbms and using international sanctions against north korea and i think they will begin this week if the president makes the decisions with some fairly tough sanctions against china itself. something we have done in a partial way but not in a comprehensive way. >> shannon: i want to play a little bit of what we heard from china's ambassador to the unthan and get your reaction to that. >> we see, of course, further testing that we oppose and we also see language and action from elsewhere that heightens tension. that is not the way to counter the purported testing. >> shannon: he made reference to the anti-missile defense system. the thaad system but he said it wasn't helpful for people to be talking about all options being on the table. that seems pretty pointed to the u.s. >> yeah. the hypocrisy of that statement is overwhelming. we're testing our missile defense system. emphasis on defense. they are testing an offensive icbm that will be delivered to another country with a nuclear tipped missile. that's stunning to say that we're wrong in conducting defensive tests to protect ours efs from that. and i do agree president trump did put the military option back on the table that president obama took off the table. i think it is the proper thing to do even though horrifically the result would be if we use that option, but realistically we have certainly got to have it on the table. >> shannon: let's talk about another hot spot, russia. the vice president visiting through eastern europe and a bit of what he had to say in recent hours about russia and where we go next. >> as the president will soon sign new russian sanctions he'll do some we make clear that america is serious about standing with freedom-loving countries at the same time he is determined to lead the door open if russia is prepared to change its behavior, the nature of our relationship with them can change as well. >> shannon: the sanctions are coming. the door is open for us to kiss and make up at some point if their behavior changes. what do you think about his message on this particular trip? >> first of all pence has gone to a border country from russia and he has stated that the united states rejects russia redrawing international borders, rejects russia's coercion and intimidation campaign of our allies and rejects russia trying to divide the trans atlantic alliance. the strongest statement any u.s. national leader has made since the trump administration has been in power and what's happening here, so our viewers can understand this. the post cold war era where the united states was a super power by itself is over. we're returning to great power competition again, russia wants to redesign the international order which has existed for seven decades because they don't believe it's in their national interest. and that is what they're pushing up against and they are clashing with us. they had their way with the obama administration. they won't have their way with the trump administration. >> shannon: i know you think in that region this administration is sending a different message in contrast to years past. general keane, always good to see you. >> bill: 23 minutes before the hour. president trump's opioid commission shedding new light on the drug epidemic in america and urging the president to declare a national emergency. preliminary report reads in part. 142 americans dying every day. america is enduring a death toll like september 11 every three weeks. the president vowed to follow up when he said this. >> the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> bill: then the commission led by new jersey governor chris christie was formed last march and we'll let you know on progress on that. >> shannon: president trump has been touting his economic agenda and could be a big day on wall street. watch closely. the dow hovering around 22,000. >> bill: rare air. we're watching that and watching what comes next on 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(avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru outback models. now through august 31. >> bill: some republican senators saying it is time to switch gears after the failed healthcare vote. three republican senators voting against last week's skinny repeal effort ending the latest effort to scrap obamacare as house democrats are expected to unveil improvements to the affordable care act. we've lined up a debate today to figure out the best step forward. on the left doctor ezekiel emanuel. a fox news contributor. on the right dr. marc siegel. professor of medicine here in manhattan. good day to both of you. i want to find solutions, ezequiel, start first. what are the solutions possible if there are any? >> i think we have to take a short term view and a long term view. the short-term view is let's get the exchanges working better. that really requires two or three major changes, one is to guarantee the cost-sharing subsidies, another is to get the reinsurance policy for health insurers, a third is to enforce the mandate. those three things will do a lot to stabilize the exchanges. and actually bring premiums down because they give the insurance companies more stability. the longer-term view is about affordability. that requires us to change how we pay doctors and hospitals so that they actually want to get rid of unnecessary care. they will make care more efficient and bring down the prices of devices and other surgical procedures and that is -- if we really want to talk about helping the american public it's the affordability issue that most americans, a short and long-term thing. >> bill: does that sound reasonable, marc and workable? >> stabilizing the insurance market sounds reasonable. notice that's occurring. we're in a bail-out situation. why are we in a bail-out situation? doctor emmanuel and i have talked about it before. almost 7 million americans chose to take the tax penalty. you know why? because they were too healthy and most of them are under the age of 35. you know why, bill? they know they can wait until they're sick and sign up then so they do a little math and say i'll wait until i'm sick. aetna says 55% of my new clients are sick. i'll drop out of the exchange. the more that happens, the more premiums fly up and we saw in 19 states last year 20% increase premiums. you can fix that, i agree, by throwing more money at it by reinsurance and enforcing the mandate. here is another way to fix it. that's the point. ist isn't always money. why don't we say to young people we'll offer you a catastrophic option to get you in the game. why don't we say to young people we'll charge you less money if you get in the game. why don't we say to young people we aren't a country of penalties here. let's fix the doctor's office, by the way. where doctors say nobody is paying me more, bill, for all this computer time i have mandated. i don't have malpractice reform. where did we get the idea in the united states that insurance means healthcare? insurance can turn down the very healthcare it is promising you. it can say sign up here. when you get to the doctor's office we won't cover that procedure or if you have a large deductible you may have a thyroid problem or pneumonia. i didn't use my deductible. i can't afford the chest x-ray out of my pocket. >> bill: we wanted to do that because of a comment with nancy pelosi. >> enlarging the pool, making it healthier, younger and having more benefits. >> i understand the reason and history but it doesn't sound like you're willing to give anything. >> what do they have to offer? you have to have a big pool. >> bill: there are democratic congressmen talking about resisting is not enough. you have to arrive at solutions. >> wait a second. it is not talking now. i've been talking to the democratic congressional and senate side and they've been very interested in bipartisan agreement. mitch mcconnell didn't reach out. he had 13 people behind closed doors. the president hasn't called anyone. nancy pelosi or chuck schumer. they've been interested. i do think one area we might have overlap is what i've been calling auto enrollment where people get auto enrolled into a particular program that the subsidy covers it. it sounds like there is some republican interest. senator cassidy and more conservative think-tank policy experts are interested. that's an area where we could have overlap and go to what marc is suggesting. some way of getting more young people, more healthy people into the insurance game and beginning to have that experience and understanding that it's actually to their benefit to participate. >> i think he is right in the sense we either get more young people in by offering them more scaled-down catastrophic options at a younger age that they could pay less for because they sign up earlier. another way to reach across the aisle is on medicaid. dr. emmanuel and i agree on that. medicaid expansion is popular. i would work on trying to keep it to work across the aisle but scale it back. recognize 9.5% of the federal budget is too much toward medicaid. work on scaling it back. people don't want to lose an entitlement once they have it and coverage once they have it. >> bill: we've seen that. i want to squeeze in these two comments from siegel and i'll give you a chance. you write in the usa today obamacare added more cars to the train but there are fewer engineers to drive it. another line from your piece. i have a cadillac health insurance plan in a land of jalopies. how is that fair? >> i don't agree about the doctor shortage. we publish an article and looked at the number of primary doctors we need in the united states given quite generous amounts of time with patients. we have more than enough. it is not a numbers problem, it's a problem of management. we have a mismanagement of doctor's time. one of the things i point out in my new book is actually changing how you schedule patients can increase the amount of time doctors spend with sick patients and make the physician's office more efficient and decrease emergency room use. it's those kind of management changes we need to use. the way to get there is to incentivize doctors differently. we have to pay them in a different way. not just for each thing they do, but more like take care of the patient, here is the annual amount you are going to get. >> bill: i'm almost out of time. >> there is a doctor shortage. the association of american medical colleges say they're 100,000 doctors short over the next 10 years. i have agree with management of time. we've computerized everything and doctors are overwhelmed. i spend 20 minutes seeing a patient seeing 20 minutes writing about it. we need more efficiency models and more nurses. i would pay for quality care but doctor's time is worth something. i wouldn't take that away. let's pay doctors for their time. >> i think this is a model actually, marc and i can agree on a lot of things. not everything but it gives you a bipartisan model that we can go forward with nationally. >> bill: we don't live a land of jalopies. >> we respect each other and that's where it starts. >> shannon: summer of 2028 could be one to remember for the west coast. los angeles getting ready to host the world's greatest athletic games. the summer olympics. how they snagged the big game. 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. today we're bringing you america's number one shave at lower prices every day. putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. as one of those workers, i'm proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. gillette - the best a man can get. and when youod sugar is a replace one meal... choices. ...or snack a day with glucerna... ...made with carbsteady... ...to help minimize blood sugar spikes... ...you can really feel it. now with 30% less carbs and sugars. glucerna. >> the new white house chief of staff shaking things up. difpg anthony scaramucci as they work to turn the page. is it a new beginning in the west wings? a bipartisan effort on healthcare and the next move on rewriting the tax code. six minutes away on "happening now." >> shannon: in 2028 los angeles strikes a deal to host the summer olympics. the first time the u.s. welcomes the world since the 2002 winter games in salt lake city. we're live in the newsroom, adam. how do we get to 2028? there is stuff happening between now and then. other games. >> yeah. in fact it was interesting. between l.a. and paris. behind the scenes for a couple of months paris was going to get the 2024 games because of 100 year anniversary. l.a. seemed to be happy either way. they bid for 2024 but they got 2028. the longest preparation times the games have been given. 11 years to prepare and most of the stuff is in place. everybody happy locally. the president put out a statement as well. local leaders and athletes had this to say about the big announcement. >> unlike the old model where people tried to fit the olympics to the city, this is a model we're fitting the city to the olympics. >> for an athlete l.a. has everything you need at your best. incredible weather. great facilities and world's best fans, of course. >> incredible weather. it is raining in l.a. in august. interesting. the morning after the big announcement before i give it back to you the thing about l.a. that makes it different than most other cities everything will be in place. they don't have to build new stadiums. they have to increase security and the ability to move people around. that has to happen anyway. that's the new soccer stadium being built next year. los angeles doesn't expect to spend more money. the ioc will give them money for local sports program and they can make it a positive thing for l.a. and the rest of the world. 11 years. hopefully it's not raining. >> shannon: it won't be. the odds are. traffic is another story. all right. adam housley. >> traffic is terrible every day. >> bill: shake-up at the white house. new chief of staff makes big changes. what's next? the first full day on the job for secretary kelly. that's next. >> shannon: distracted pedestrians have no place in honolulu. they approved a law that makes it illegal to cross a street when you're looking down at your smartphone. fines range from 15-$99. i'm a big fan of this. i like for people to pay attention when they're walking. there are a lot of people walking around new york. wake up, people! we can make a lot of a lot of money. >> bill: watch where you step, folks. have a great day, bye-bye. >> jon: another shakeup at the white house as the new chief of staff, general john kelly takes command and makes, what you might call a big change on day one sending anthony scaramucci packing. been wanting to come on jon scott. >> molly: the incoming white house communications director didn't even start his job before he got the boot. here's what sarah huckabee sanders had to say yesterday. >> he does not have a role at this time. the president certainly felt that anthony's comments were inappropriate for a person in that position, and he didn't want to burden general