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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220212 10:59:00

and hopeful. my dad can actually go out to eat now, so we ve been going out to restaurants. he came with me to my dentist s appointment because he hasn t been able to do that in a really long time. it s awkward because i m 20. he s just trying to make up for the lost 4 1/2 years. yeah. now, said david, rachel, and heidi, they re hoping the state will solve their mom s murder. i obviously hope that they do catch whoever did it, but i wouldn t be surprised if they don t. what s going to happen to the family? i think all of us want to move out of bloomington. yeah. that s for sure. something else. after all the trauma, these three are, by the look of it, fine. it s because, they said, they had a wonderful mother, pam zimmerman. you three have all done pretty well so far. what would she think about where you are in life and what you ve accomplished? i think she d be incredibly

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220212 10:41:00

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220212 10:02:00

only one would face trial for her murder and the stunning outcome would tear pam s family apart. here s keith morrison is before midnight. a few minutes after sunrise on theht morning of november 4t 2014, david zimmerman rose to his bed14 in the quiet suburb o bloomington, illinois, eager to dispose of a small worry that had been nagging at him all night. he matted across the room to his bedroom door. i had woke up and walked out into the kind of main hall way we have and the lights were still on. the lights he left on when he went to bed. which meant? what? david was 17-years-old, the eldest of pam zimmerman s three children. they not uncommoningly left the lights on when she worked late at her financial planning business or stepped out with het new man him typically when she got home, she turned the lights

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220212 10:23:00

whirlwind romance and perhaps too rapid engagement. after all, no one in the family really knew him, not even her kids. i had only met scott three times and the third time was the party that they had to celebrate their engagement. that separation was just days before, yet, when scott heard about the murder, he did not rush to bloomington from his home two or three hours away near chicago. it made me realize and think what my mom really meant to him, what we meant to him. he sounded fake at that point. pam s kids have questions about scott. so did detectives. he was asked to come down to bloomingtop to meet with police, which he did the following day. pam s body was discovered. scott told the detectives he had been home alone when pam was killed. police would look into that, but in the meantime, they discovered

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20220212 10:53:00

so now, bloomington would hear kirk zimmerman s side of the story. kirk zimmerman did not shoot and kill pamela zimmerman. he didn t shoot and kill the mother of his three children over owing $3,900 in child support. that state theory that kirk killed pam over money, nonsense, said his defense attorney john rogers. kirk made it clear to the police, he said, that fedex from pam was no big deal. it didn t affect me. you re you re wondering if i disagreed or argued with her about it? kirk had a full pension guaranteed for life, which he could have taken at any point in time. he was making $95,000 working for state farm. he has in excess of $240,000 in his 401(k). the defense told the court the police have tunnel vision from the very start. it s the old, let s go look

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