steve: don t know. brian: it was a good idea. the president and republican congressional leaders will meet with several ceo s to brain storm how to avoid falling off that fiscal cliff. doug is joining us live from washington with the latest. are we going over the cliff or is this a slope? it s that thelma and louise moment. yeah. just over a month to go before we reach the cliff, if it gets that far. these are obviously the key players in all this, president obama and congressional leaders from both parties. they re not the only players and both sides are now look for input from the business community as to what should really happen here as get closer and closer to the cliff. from the president today, we re going to see the start of just an all-out pr blitz to raise taxes. he meets with small business owners today, tomorrow it s ceo s that will pay higher taxes. while the white house says he s seeking vicious his mind appears to be made up.