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And the case the prosecution put on to reach what i think a lot of people felt was the obvious conclusion and yet nevertheless was actually reached today. >> yeah, it really gives us hope for america. when you think about this jury with 11 white members and one black member being able to focus in on the evidence, this horrific killing and not be distracted by all of the dog whistles and racial rhetoric like, you know, ahmaud had long legs and dirty toenails, which was offensive on every level. c...

>> yeah, its actually the defense thats brought up race a lot more. im surprised the attorney didnt say those long dirty black toenails because you know thats what she meant. the prosecutors had smoking gun evidence of the defendants racism including that after travis mcmichael pumped three bullets into mr. arbery, he called him the "n" word. the prosecutor said that she wasnt going to present the evidence to the jury unless the defense opened the door by claiming that they arent racists. so i t...

Commit a burglary, and look, he had dirty toenails. but its race-baiting and it certainly backfired particularly in the prosecutors rebuttal, she was able to attack it head on. when you lose your jury, you get a guilty verdict, as a defense attorney. so i think it definitely was counterproductive for her to state that. >> chuck rosenberg, theyve got a federal case, these three men, that theyre facing, coming relatively quickly. >> thats exactly right, katy. there is in the fifth amendment of the...

One of the attorneys in the courtroom saying that the attorney was beyond rude, that the attorney was saying about her son. she appears quite emotional at times looking like she was nodding in agreement. she was the verdict -- the verdict being read. taking the scenes outside the courthouse. >> i agreed with her view of what the defense counsel said. it was a reference to the fact that her son had dirty toenails. he was viewed by many as -- it was viewed by many as a racist comment. it was certa...

Regardless of what kind of toenails he had, what size legs he had, that was still my son. and my son actually was running for his life. >> what could possibly be the benefit of that argument for any defendant? >> well, i think it was a critical misstep by the defense attorney but if youre the defense attorney, you know what youre doing, youre dehumanizing the victim, right? youre making it so that the person who was the ultimate victim in this case ahmaud arbery didnt really have a lot of value ...

I think that was a good thing. he said -- [ no audio ] -- dirty toenails, some animal, or like hes a runaway slave that you have to capture and civilize. none of that worked. thats the good news out of this decision, is that they played a tune that is no longer resonating in many homes, white homes n georgia and around the country. but weve got to make it permanent, by changing laws, because there are many that have not changed. because, lets not forget, less than 24 hours ago, as jonathan just ...

>> you all heard the good wrenching grunt that came out of marcus arbery when they pronounced travis mcmichael guilty. he could not contain it any further because think about how long he and wanda have been enduring all the innuendo, all the allegations, all the character assassinations, low legs with dirty toenails. just imagine all they went through. when he heard that, reverend al, he could not contain himself because marcus as a father, they see their job as to protect their children. >> tha...

Aside and they said, you know, this jury cant come back with a not-guilty verdict, can it? um, and i remind people often that, you know, you had not one but two prosecutors who actually saw this tape but kdeclined to initiate charges against these individuals. and so, i think that is the reason for hesitancy, although the prosecution has done a yeomans job in putting together the best case they possibly could. >> bakari, talk a little more about that because i wasnt alt lunch at the chop house b...

Troublesome part about trying to separate race or racism from our system of jurisprudence in this country. i mean, look. my colleague just laid out all the facts that the prosecution laid out. but i think we would both agree that our stomachs in knots because we have seen the system fail black people before. we have seen this system fail people of color before. and what we saw in this prosecution, she laid it out perfectly. i mean, if you were to have a split screen between what the defense said...

Self-defense and of course, provocation. you cant force someone to defend themselves against you. this isnt the wild west. no. >> with me now katy fang, msnbc legal contributor and paul butler. katy, i have to play you one of the most despicable things ive ever seen in watching a lot of trials. this is the defense lawyer. doing what seems to me to be clearly trying to make this almost all white jury despise the dead ahmaud arbery, take a look and also the reaction of arberys mom. >> turning ahma...