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The first degree murder count, may be in fact one where they find self-defense applies and that would mean theyre considering a not guilty verdict on count one. >> you know, phil, i would find -- i think many of us would find it shocking, just given what we know of the case. this case has been particularly high profile, obviously in the wake of the zimmerman verdict and this issue that while stand your ground was mentioned, it not quite the center of this case. but the issue of sort of i think t...