trump recorded the day after the riots on january 7th. the whole thing is only about three minutes long of what we saw. but it took an hour to shoot, according to the washington post. and even then, it still needed to be edited. watch for when the camera position changes. now congress has certified the results. a new administration will be inaugurated on january 20th. my focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly, and seamless transition of power. this moment calls for healing and reconciliation. 2020 has been a challenging time for our people. a menacing pandemic has upended the lives of our citizens. so, how was the other 57 minutes spent? what s in those outtakes? and why was it so hard for him to condemn the violence? now, those outtakes, we re told are going to be part of the committee s case that donald trump abandoned his duties as president, like to stop his own supporters from attacking the u.s. capitol for more than three hours, mind you. and tonight, we ha
of guilt, jumping off the screen at these hearings and what the department of justice is doing about it. and how donald trump and his mom dusted off a pre-existing american script to try to pull off their insurrection when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. it did not seem like there could possibly be any secrets left, that there could be possibly be new have literally shocking details about the ex presidents plot to and american democracy. and yet, oh my, there is. yesterday s historic testimony from cassidy hutchison, and advisor, to chief of staff mark meadows, forced everyone to update their basic understanding of what it was we saw in the period leading up to and during the insurrection on january 6th, both for donald trump and the people who supported his attempts to end the peaceful transfer of power. the old model of our understanding of what happened on january 6th is basically as follows. the ex president told a bunch of lies abo
the old model of our understanding of what happened on january 6th is basically as follows. the ex president told a bunch of lies about voter fraud and he refused to accept he lost, whether he believed it or not is unclear, he nurture those lies in this impetuous frenzy, rage filled, haphazard way. he threw everything against the wall to see what would stick in and out of court in a desperate attempt to cling to power, which culminated in this inciting speech on january 6th to a mob he riled up and then sent to the capitol and there, hopped up on trump s incitement and lies and reckless disregard for both safety and american democracy, the mob broke into the capitol, ransacked it, threatening the lives of members and calling to hang mike pence. and while they did, trump sat and watched and refused to lift a finger to stop them, as things got more and more out of hand and more and more violent. that was our almost immediate understanding of what happened that today. and based
but at the end of the day, it s the career prosecutors who are going to be building these cases and presenting it to the attorney general in some form or fashion. what do you make of the perception, though, that people have that the attorney general or the doj, more broadly, is playing catch up? and i ask this specifically because there were these letters to the committee that the committee wasn t handing over information to doj. yeah, so, i so, first of all, in a situation in which the committee is doging a top-down investigation, the committee starts with the question, what can we say about political accountability and donald trump? they get to start with the king. they interview everybody around the king. they interview everybody that s not the way you conduct a criminal investigation, as you know. at the criminal investigation, you do it maybe not from the very bottom-up, but you re going to start with the people below. it is not surprising to me at all that the committee get
about all of this? i think asha s point about the committee doing a top-down investigation is an important one and one worth perhaps explaining a bit more. at the justice department, and i was a prosecutor for a long time chris, you work cases on the bottom up and so you try to, if you can induce the evidence and constant stain a conviction, you get people to cooperate. they convict and cooperate and the move up the pyramid. and the committee and i understand this seems to be focused at the top of the pyramid. and so it is a very different orientation. also, i think we have to be extraordinarily careful because let s say that the committee has interviewed 1000 people and they ve spent four hours with each one. i wasn t a math major, but 1000 times four is 4000. we ve so far heard about ten or 12 hours of testimony and they may have 4000 hours worth of depositions. it s like me reading the first