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December 14, 2014
Lets remember, the people were already being dressed in orange suits and executed in iraq in 2005 and in 2014 and this was well before the details came out. the fact is that the occupation of iraq, of afghanistan, the torture program was well known around the world, and everybody was talking about it. so i dont think there will be any particular reaction to this specific specifically because of this release. >> let me ask you about the general idea of this kind of critique. because a lot of peop...
December 14, 2014
Were very upset and terrified. >> on edge. steve, you think this is inaccurate and partisan but my question is, have the media covered it fairly? >> no, i think, no. the mediayx buys the narrative that is pit -- put north in the senate report there was no detailed analysis of the report that you have had the media do on other things. you had some in the conservative media do this kind of break doing but not many, or even have the media asking the most basic questions or making the most bake poin...
December 14, 2014
An estimated 400 under president obama. >> the use of drones is heavily constrained. america does not take strikes when we have the ability to capture individual terrorists. our preference is always to detain, interrogate and prosecute. >> reporter: polls show about 70% of americans support the drone program. why? why is it more acceptable and more popular to kill people than to hold them and torture them? >> antiseptic drone strikes, which is the video image you see from the pentagon, torture i...
December 14, 2014
>> richard engel is in studio with me now. richard, first of, its good to have you stateside. >> good to be here. >> december visit here. whats creating more terrorists? the bush interrogation program or obamas drone program? >> creating more terrorists? >> yeah. >> its very hard to know. people are radicalized -- >> theres worry that both do that. that both can radicalize people. >> theres a whole history of why people are being radicalized. it goes back to u.s. support for israel, whats consid...
December 14, 2014
Attempting to be open, at least it is trying to make confessions in public. i know that theres no sense that theres going to be any prosecutions but at least america has come clean and is setting a record, a standard for other countries to follow. there are at least 54 countries in involved. what did britain do? what did pakistan do? what did syria do? what did egypt do? they also now have a template to follow. lets remember, the people were already being dressed in orange suits and executed in ...
December 13, 2014
But at the same time he said its hard to fault the cia because it was doing what the bush white house wanted. >> theres a lot of hypocrisy going around obviously and it starts at the white house, which has been critical. at the same time theyre droning people. it was interesting to watch our own ed henry press josh earnest on this, reporter going head-to-head with josh earnest saying how do you claim moral authority when you guys are droning people and yet youre so critical of torture program. t...
December 12, 2014
Senator which would be a very unusual disguise. where did that come from? we havent talked about him at all? but there is still a mystery at the heart of this story. we still do not know why the krchlt i.a. came up with this idea. why did the c.i.a. decide to start a torture program? they didnt have an existing torture program. and it wasnt that they had the people in dust kill custody and the normal methods werent working. the normal methods were working. but despite that, an abstract policy de...
December 12, 2014
Introduced, which did not produce results as zubaydah shut down and stopped talking, correct? >> correct, sir. >> since then, fbi agent soufan has been able to become more public. he has written a terrific book about his experiences and about al qaeda and he has been a guest on this show. he can now tell his story. or at least the parts of it that are not classified about how his nontorture interrogation works. and it worked. until the cia stepped in with torture, then progress stopped. but ther...
December 12, 2014
That fbi interrogation was successful. it produced real information that u.s. needed and was able to act on. but then something changed. abu zubaydah was interrogated by suffant. contractors were sent in. they stripped him naked. blasted music in his cell. went ton to water board him. they were part after new cia torture program. they were sent to torture the prisoner even though he had already been talking without tore touring him. people make the case that rashalal for torturing people is that...
December 12, 2014
>> none of these lapses should be excused, down played or denied. >> who are we to disagree? >> john brennan in what some thought would be a defense of the torture program but instead he made explicit his agreement with most of the criticism of the cia in the senate intelligence committee report. >> the cia was unprepared to conduct and intention and interrogation program and our officers inadequately developed and monitored its initial activities. the agency failed to establish quickly the oper...