the camera, he was behind the camera. and also he was a very good, terrific producer. and ran a really good show, and everybody had fun, and, in fact, he was known as running the quietest booth in town. the back in the booth and usually in a lot of shows they re yelling, take one it was all very calm and cool. and when you met him, he had eight children already? yes. a huge family. yes. and you then had three more children? yes. so now eleven? yes. why didn t it work out, the marriage, when you look back at it? well, i think towards the end, it s really too personal, but we also parted as friends. he in fact, we were still friendly when he got cancer and he passed on. and so now my present husband is a lot younger he s almost a toyboy, not quite.