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A closer look at what were learning from the transcripts. >> reporter: a big batch of transcripts last night and new tidbits including amount of money rudy giuliani wanted for postelection legal team. apparently asked fors $20,000 a day. something rudy giuliani denied but a former trump campaign attorney told this to the committee. under penalty, knowing that if he were lying to the committee that would be a crime and said the campaigns reaction was essentially, wow, a lot of money. we dont know...

Ringing. a lot was happening. i dont recall, and she said, i dont remember him expressing anything, talking about, again, the president at the time. we also got more information about mark meadows. even though he did not sit for a deposition with the january 6th committee, he did hand over thousands of text messages, thousands of pages of emails, and in one transcript, the committee is essentially running through what they wanted to ask mark meadows who was trumps former white house chief of sta...

There are a few that are really asking for some rules changes. if theyre just asking for something, there potentially may be a way to get there. it does feel like a lot of these things are going to have to be given into to get there. it probably has to be the motion to vacate in the old way. otherwise, theres probably not much of a path. that may have been the reality all along, and we had to get there. the vote is not now. the vote is not for another day. there is still time to avoid a messy fl...

Where they are corresponding with moving graphics. i think that is really important for the legacy. >> the committee spent the final days of the years releasing transcripts from their investigative work. what do you think the point that wasnt what surprised you most? >> the point was for the transparency, right? i think you see the report and you see the details that are still down. i think if you look at the transcript and you see the question and you really see where the committee was trying t...

That could alter our understanding of what happened on january six. i should say, when you see americans watching ive been educationally handled 41 of. them here are couple things that stand out to me. one thing that could alter our understanding of something that we dont see. that is unexplained white space and some of these transcripts. anybody who has gone through the transcripts has seen that one members of the staff, for example, are doing some of the questioning or talking about something ...

Trump said to us when we asked about crimea was, wasnt crimea historically russian owned? no it wasnt, its a peninsula -- that was his view on it. he was very dismissive of questions of, like, really trying to enforce -- obviously, it was difficult for us to deal with that. if you examine, for example, the transcript of the so-called perfect phone call, i mean, president zelenskyy mentions the javelins. president trump completely ignores it. he disregards it. you got oh, yeah, okay, but lets foc...

But he was at the center of this unlawful effort to overturn the election. we believe that you take all the evidence that we compiled, and look at the criminal statutes of their, and there is reason that he shouldnt be prosecuted, so we sent that over to the department of justice. of course they have to make their own independent decision, but we think that the evidence that we have compiled is important. and significance. >> i want to read a portion of cassidy hutchinsons transcript, which is v...

This is likely to add more fuel to the fire...

Able to use that as much as you can, unless you really remember something very clearly, and thats when you give a short, sweet advance. this is her talking about the coach ek, i read some transcripts including kushners which is out today. and i guess i would ask you to characterize, where the witnesses fall on the spectrum of candid, forthcoming, and attempting to keep as much from the committee as possible? >> well, waiting through questionnaires transcript, and he is not the only one, but it j...

Trump. after everything we just talked about and the fact he dined with a white supremacist, and the fact he said lets terminate the constitution, way still seeing maga, that is another one, you just casually forget he said we should terminate the constitution republicans were like, well, nobody is perfect. >> terminate the constitution, on the constitution, one last quick question, we got a bunch of new interview transcripts from the january six committee on friday, and those of us who said rig...