we re not going to be able to carry on doing what we re doing and it means that isis is going to come back. we re good at seizing the objective. we re terrible at holding on to it. this president more than anybody is terrible at holding on to the objective. great consternation not just there and not just in that part of the world, but everywhere elsewhere we have treaty commitments, defense commitments. most other countries are terribly concerned about our inability now to project you on power. what s going to happen next in places as far as from the middle east as let s say the western pacific. these are very difficult times. when mulvaney was talking about how the president likes to have people around him who disagree with him, nothing could be furtherer from the truth. i was going to say do you believe that, do you believe this president wants people around him who are willing to speak truth to power? i think of general mcmaster who
position he s taken, aren t just traditionalist, they are bipartisan, they are historic. they re logical. a nerve agent, let s a nerve agent, outlawed, by the way, by treaty, with the russians, of russian signature, was used on the streets of the capital of our closest ally, a nato member. and the white house is silent? that s not traditionalist versus nontraditionalist. that is against the grain of who we are as a people, our historic relationships, our treaty commitments. can you imagine the british parliament listening to the silence on this side again, tillerson condemned it. trump didn t say anything. the white house didn t say anything. there s a difference between nontraditional and ridiculous. to say something is somewhat ridiculous. i was in the congress when bernie sanders wasn t taken seriously. so get a reality check. things are changing unbelievable in the world.
ambassador nikki haley did, this is about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. admiral? that is incorrect as a philosophy in international relations. what you want to do is keep your friends close, your allies even closer. those with whom you have treaty commitments. and expand outward from there. certainly over time you should have conversations with your opponents. i thought the ambassador baucus in china was a good example of that. we can have conversations. but those we want closest to us are our treaty allies. then our partners. then our friends. on the outer ring is where we should find our potential opponents, recognizing we have to keep communication open to them. and senator, before i let you go, you were a key player in the passage of obamacare. so i want to ask you just quickly about that, because mitch mcconnell and the other republicans having obviously some trouble coming up with the votes. now talking about reaching across the aisle to get this done.
i think it went extremely well on the front end, namely, the visits and re-odd and jerusalem. it went okay, great visuals in rome. it is not go as well in either the nato meetings are the g-7 meetings. and the administration not to pay attention to those and sure those things up. the president was right in making that charge to the europeans, you need to live up to your treaty commitments. i think it would have gone to better if much better in private, maybe not been as effective. but it would have gone down a little bit better if he made it publicly, if he had reaffirmed our so-called article 5 commitments, that attack on any nato member is an attack on all. that probably would have made it better. but don t read too much into it. look at the implications of what is playing out here and don t let it get worse. sandra: karl rove, thank you. good to see you. you back. sandra: early this morning, north korea launched a ballistic missile test, the nation s third and just three w
i think it went extremely well on the front end, namely, the visits and re-odd and jerusalem. it went okay, great visuals in rome. it is not go as well in either the nato meetings are the g-7 meetings. and the administration not to pay attention to those and sure those things up. the president was right in making that charge to the europeans, you need to live up to your treaty commitments. i think it would have gone to better if much better in private, maybe not been as effective. but it would have gone down a little bit better if he made it publicly, if he had reaffirmed our so-called article 5 commitments, that attack on any nato member is an attack on all. that probably would have made it better. but don t read too much into it. look at the implications of what is playing out here and don t let it get worse. sandra: karl rove, thank you. good to see you. you back. sandra: early this morning, north korea launched a ballistic missile test, the nation s third and just three w