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he is a heck no on trump care. >> i'm a heck no on this. i think they've got problems with the vote. i've personally spoken to 29 of my conservative colleagues who are no on this as of today and we're not even counting the moderate republicans who are a no. i think they've got a lot of arm twisting to do between now and thursday if they're going to pass this bill in the house. >> does he sound scared to you? because congressman massey was in the room today when donald trump came to the house of representatives to urge republicans to vote for the bill. here is how congressman massey describes tough guy donald trump. threatening and pushing around all those republicans who oppose the bill. >> he was very charming. there was some light-hearted jabs at his opponents in the room but it was all in good fun. >> light-hearted jabs. that ought to do it. that's what tough guy trump is delivering to republican opponents of his bill. thomas massey doesn't claim to
be a tough guy the way donald trump does, but he certainly doesn't sound afraid of the tough guy. and to listen to congressman massey, no republicans are. >> he's been to kentucky once, and vice president pence has been to kentucky once and it's still not changing senator rand paul's mind or my mind. i'm not sure what they can do to get the vote they need. >> president trump told them if they did not vote for the bill, they would face primary challenges in their districts. again, congressman massey is not worried. >> now, to your point about being in electoral trouble offer this vote, before i came over here to speak with you, i counselled my call log. i have 275 constituents who asked me to oppose this bill and only four who have asked me to support it.
known that from day one. >> mark meadows won his last election with 64% of the vote. mark meadows knows how to call -- calculate his chances. >> ken, this is looking very difficult for paul ryan and donald trump in the house of representatives now. what i'm struck by is no one who comes out against this bill seems even slightly intimidated either by the speaker or the president. >> yeah, there's a couple reasons for that, lawrence, i think. first of all, in this house freedom caucus, you have folks that are just personally predisposed to opposing the leadership. we've seen that time and again. so i don't think that either having the leadership or donald trump lean on them is
necessarily the ticket to getting them on board. additionally, there's no evidence that trump would be able to leverage to actually go after gop house members. tease are district by district battles, not national media based advertising wars or air wars. as you cited in the run-up there, the health care bill is not particularly popular. so these folks are not going to face challenges from the right necessarily, let alone ones where donald trump would be a major factor in whipping up support for a primary challenger. >> let listen to what congressman david brat told conservative caty tur today. >> do you believe this vote is going to happen on thursday? >> right now we're aiming for it. >> aiming for it sound like you're not very confident you're going to have it. >> i don't think there's the
votes. there's 10 or 20 moderates and folks in tough races up in the northeast corridor that have coverage issues. >> so no. >> so it's a problem right now. >> what does it mean to the trump presidency if the president loses his first big vote in the house of representatives? >> it would be huge, enormous. i was thinking about listening to trump make this case of not being able to persuade republicans, and i thought back to ronald reagan when he got his legislation through in the first year, and he had to apply pressure but that was because he had to convince democrats, not republicans. what you've got here is a weak president and an unpopular bill. they're having tough sledding. to see a republican president with a republican congress 60 days into his presidency have this amount of difficulty is extraordinary. of course it's an unprecedented
tremendous blowback. but the reason is that these are self-inflicted wounds by donald trump. he is a corrupt president and a corrupt man and it catching up to us. it not just the description, it the ineptness. it not just the investigation. it's the a this man just isn't up to being president and day after day, week after week, we're seeing more and more evidence of that. i think it's unnerving republicans. >> ken, there's some speculation today that the drop in the stock market is related to what peter is now saying, that wall street is now getting that same kind of impress this presidency, that he is unbalanced and incompetent. what does that mean for thing about tax bill wall street is hoping for and all the
deregulation that wall street is hoping for? >> that's a kind of valid question. they painted themselves in the corner by doing it as the first bill out. it just a super complicated issue. but additionally it want necessarily the one that he or the folks in his administration, in his inner circle, felt the most strongly about. they did feel more strongly about the a -- tax overhaul and some the deregulatory measure. the de -- they said the members of congress for six years, the republican members of congress had campaigned against my sources tell me there are folks inside the administration o say
they wouldn't mind seeing this fail because they would see it as sort of a failure for paul ryan, who they believe put them in this position. nont business, i agree with pete, it would be set back his entire agenda because some of these other. >> a quick last word on what you think if this bill either fails in the vote or if the speaker has to just take it down and not go to the vote on thursday, the potential damage to paul ryan. >> i think it would be a beg blow to ryan. i mean, this is his bill. he set it up. he's pushing it. and trump has in a sense hinged -- connected himself to ryan, to that wagon. and if it crashes into the side of a hill, that's going to be very bad for ryan. but it would be bad for trump and it would be be bad for
entire republican party. it would signal to voers they're not ready for primetime. they've got the senate, the house and the presidency and they can't govern. they can't pass what is sense and you know politic, victories build on themselves and so do defeats. if this goes down, this isn't the only issue they'll go down on. >> and there as within more night nairos and then those republicans who voted for it and compromised themselves in the house will have done that for nothing, trying to get them to do that once given on any other bill is going to be pretty tough, too. ken vogel, peter wehner, thank you both for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, the leader of a physician's group tells us he's never seen legislation that would do more harm to health
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mandate, ban on further expansion will harm the most vulnerable. and joining us now, robert dougherty. thank you very much for joining us tonight. i want to start, first of all, with what you see as the differences in this 2.0 version, the version of the bill that was hastily written yesterday and released last night. >> sure, lawrence, and thank you for having me. the original bill was bad enough because it targeted the most vulnerable people in our society, poorer and sicker people, particularly those on medicaid. in an effort to make sweeteners to attract more vote, they made it even worse for those people by putting a block grant aid, which means they would be stuck holding the tab and they would need to -- and then the work mandate, we believe health care is a right and people shouldn't
be forced to prove that they are able to work in order to have coverage. >> i want to go to something that donald trump said about physicians specifically and their reaction to the affordable care act. let's listen to this. >> many of our best and brightest are leaving the medical profession entirely because of obamacare. obamacare has been a complete and total catastrophe and it's getting worse and worse by the day and yet you watch the fake media, the fake news and they try and build it up. it's a disaster, fellas. it's a disaster. >> your reaction to that, robert? >> physicians have frustrations
with red tape and things like that, but that has nothing to do with the affordable care act or obamacare. the physicians i represent internal medicine doctors, the largest specialty in the united states are strongly committed to the idea that their patients should have access to affordable health care. what we know is that the bill that will be going to the house on thursday would roll back coverage for millions of people and get particularly the most vulnerable and that really sticks in our craw. a society should put its greatest attention to supporting those who need help the most, the poor kids on medicaid, elderly on medicaid, mental health disorders who get coverage through medicaid and the idea of going after those people and taking the coverage away, to our members at the american college of physicians is unconscionable. >> you are getting some help from rick schneider who sent this letter to his delegation saying there are 1.75 million
children, seniors, pregnant women and disabled individual served by traditional medicaid in michigan and roughly 104,000 of them reach side in your district. he wrote to u.s. representative tim wahlberg in a letter saying that this legislation will adversely impact them. it seems that that's not something understood by a majority of the republicans in the house. >> maybe so far. we're still hopeful the bill will not pass the house on thursday or that speaker rife -- ryan will reconsider rushing ahead and rushing the legislation through. clearly governors, governor kasich is another, who understand that medicare is crucial to the health of their resident and medicare expansion states like michigan, ohio, terminating that program would have terrible consequences for vulnerable people, older and sicker people covered by medicaid right now.
i think there are more and more republicans who are getting it, certainly the governors more and more are getting it but i do think you see more members of congress, members of congress that are having strong reservations at least with the plan that's being put forward for a vote on thursday. >> yeah, i think from your experience you know when you see this kind of trouble getting through the house, there's probably even more trouble trying to get the same bill through the senate. robert doherty, thank you for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> up next, the senate confirmation hearing a supreme court justice. what you should be looking for in that hearing. that's next. various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether,
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produced better justices than john marshall or oliver wendell homes, both of whom did not have confirm's hearings and had not been subject to fbi background checks because the fbi had not been invented yet. the first senate confirmation hearing was at the beginning of the 21st century when president wilson chose the first jewish nominee, louis brandeis, the supposed gentleman of the senate then were taken aback by a jewish nominee and decided we better slow this thing down and ask a few questions and so they had their first confirmation hearing. louis brandeis was then confirmed and went on to become one of the great figures in american jurisprudence. there were only two more confirmation hearings before the television days and both to address suspected scandals and both were then confirmed. william o. douglas was the longest serving member of the
united states supreme court and possibly its most influential and its most liberal. most liberal member ever. he lived a romantically scandalous life for his era as a supreme court justice. he was married four times while serving on the supreme court. excerpts of an article he wrote appeared in "ever green" magazine, which was considered a mildly porn graphic magazine. it is impossible to imagine the longest serving justice in the history of the united states supreme court getting through a senate confirmation hearing today. and luckily for william o. douglas, he didn't have to. douglas reportedly sat outside the judiciary committee's meeting room on the day he had heard his nomination was going to be discussed privately among the members, and he passed a handwritten note to the chairman saying do you have any questions for me?
that note came back to justice douglas with the chairman's handwritten one-word reply "no." and the republic survive and justice douglas wouldn't recognize what went on at the judiciary committee today. it is a game, steeped in a relatively short tradition that the press mistakenly thinks is a long tradition of judicial nominees refusing to comment on anything that you would ever expect a candidate for the united states supreme court to be able to discuss. like, say, the single most famous case of the modern era, roe v. wade. they pretend that cannot be discussed. the game of the judiciary is to pretend you don't have an opinion on the case everyone has an opinion about. here is clarence thomas in his confirmation hearing in 1991
telling senator patrick leahy that even though roe v. wade was decided when he was in law school, he neff talked about it, never formed an opinion about it. >> have you ever had discussion of roe v. wade other than in this room? in the 17 or 18 years it's been there? >> only i guess, senator, in the fact in the most general sense that other individuals expressed concerns one way or the other and you listen and you try to be thoughtful. if you're asking me whether or not i've ever debated the contents of it, the answer of that is, no, senator. >> have you ever, pretty gatherings or otherwise, stated whether you felt that it was properly decided or not? >> senator, in trying to recall
and reflect on that, i don't recollect commenting one way or the other. there were, again, debates about it in various places but i generally did not participate. i don't remember or recall participating, sir. >> judging by pat leahy's follow-up question, he didn't actually believe that answer. that was the moment i decided clarence thomas was willing to say anything and that was before anita hill came forward to accuse him of sexual harassment. today neil gorsuch was willing to play the game. he couldn't possibly offer his opinion about the case because of that meaningless and false and relatively short senate confirmation tradition that says you can't possibly be a fair
supreme court justice if you've ever thought about any case that may come before you in any form. of course exactly the opposite is true. presidents are looking for highly educated lawyers who have already been through the senate confirmation process at least once and sometimes twice as federal judges and appeals court judges. and that they're the kind of people who think about this stuff every day. but in the senate confirm ago -- confirmation hearings, they have to pretend they haven't and they have to pretend there's no hypothetical case they could ethically answer in their conformation hearings pause then no one would believe they could be fair in a case resembling that came to the supreme court. here's neil gorsuch today playing that game. >> it's a blanket religious test. is that consistent with the first amendment?
>> senator, we have a free exercise clause that protects the free exercise of religious liberties by all persons in this country. if you're asking me how i'd apply it to a specific case, i can't talk about that for understandable reasons. >> no. there's nothing understandable about those reasons. and to prove it, gorsuch himself later actually did talk about a hypothetical case, as senator leahy persisted with his line of questioning about religious tests. >> let me give you an example be, should there be a religious test to serve in the military. >> senator, that would be inappropriate, yes. that's against the law. that's against the law. >> see? pat leahy actually got a supreme court nominee to teak a hypothetical position on a hypothetical case that could now easily come to the supreme court.
president trump could easily decide that the solution to the massacre at fort hood by army major nidal has and is to ban muslims from serving in the military. that is not far fetched in trump world. and neil gorsuch has already ruled on it right there in the judiciary committee today. but that doesn't mean that he would not give a fair hearing to all of the details of a particular case, that a trump ban of muslims in the military would present to the supreme court because fairness as a judge does not mean in a you have no opinions. fairness as a judge means that as a human being you are full of opinions, political and otherwise, but fairness as a judge means that you limit your judicial findings and your jujs rulings to what the constitution intends. being a fair judge means that the controlling law in the case is more important to you than
your own opinions or prejudices. it doesn't mean that you don't have opinions or prejudices. and so neil gorsuch got nothing wrong on his side of the game today in the judiciary committee. very, very few supreme court nominees ever do get anything wrong because it such a simple game. they don't even get things slightly wrong according to the rules of that game. democrats in the senate along with republicans unanimously voted to the justice that neil gorsuch is nominated to replace, antonin scalia, who was the most right wing conservative judge in the modern history of the court. he got the unanimous vote of democrats and republicans because the tradition then enforced that vote. the tra dgs was simply is the nominee qualified to be a judge. not do i agree with this nominee. that's the new standard, do i agree with this nominee.
and it is just as will the as the old standard because the constitution gives no guidance to what senators are supposed to consider. the standards are all based on tradition and now we see that that tradition changes over time. senator al franken disagrees with judge gorsuch's position on a case involving a truck driver who was fired by a trucking company after disregarding his supervisor's order, unhooking his trailer and driving to a gas station to get out of the freezing cold. the truck driver, who had been in his unheated truck for hours in subzero temperatures said he was numb and his speech was slurring and by the time he left the broken down trailer, here's what senator al franken said about this case today. >> it is absurd to say this company is in its rights to fire him because he made the choice
of possibly dying from freezing to death are causing other people to die possibly by driving an unsafe vehicle. that's absurd. now, i had a career in identifying absurdity. and i know it when i see it. and it makes me, you know -- it makes me question your judgment. >> senator franken thinks it's absurd that judge gorsuch ruled for the trucking company against the truck driver. that alone is a perfectly legitimate reason for senator al franken to vote against neil gorsuch. but there is another bigger reason that has never been present before in the senate confirmation process for any supreme court justice in history, and that is neil gorsuch is the only nominee ever selected to fill a stolen seat
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at large for "new york magazine" and emmy award winning producer of hbo's "veep." i want to go to the imagery moment in the one-on-one with donald trump where donald trump asks neil gorsuch a question that he disapproves of. lindsey graham sets the stage for us. let's watch this. >> in that interview, did he ever ask you to overrule roe v. wade? >> no, senator. >> what would you have done if he'd asked? >> senator, i would have walked out the door. it's not what judges do. >> and there is the perfect execution of the theater of the confirmation hearing performance by a supreme court nominee. >> didn't it look rehearsed? >> yeah, it did. and also i don't believe a word of it.
i believe if that moment happened, he would have said to himself i'm dealing with the most ignorant president in history who doesn't even know the public tradition that we're not supposed to discuss this and i will tell the most ignorant president in history i can't comment on that now, i don't have -- he would have given his confirmation hearing answer to the question, which is i can't talk about that. >> although the way lindsey graham, who is after all a lawyer framed that question, there was a lot of wiggle om yway. he just asked him -- if he asked you would you overturn it. the question could have been what do you think about roe v. wade and gorsuch could have told him the truth and still he could have given that answer to graham under oath today. >> right. so the democrats have a very tough set of choices in front of them. they, first of all, have this issue of the stolen seat. there's no question that the asterisk is on this seat of all team. there are many on the democratic side who want them to vote
against gorsuch on just that alone. >> it won't make a difference but i can understand the desire of the democratic base to want. it was a stolen seat and it an outrage. that's a good way to protest it and it not outrageous to cast that vote as opposed to what mitch mcconnell did to merrick garland. neil gorsuch called up garland to say this seat should have been yours. >> "lassie come home." should all the democrats oppose moving to the vote? in other words, filibustering it
because that risks the possibility that mitch mcconnell will then say, okay, no more 60-vote threshold on supreme court justices and then what are you going to get in the end of that anyway? >> nothing good if -- >> i would not know how to advise a democratic senator on this. >> and given that harry reid and the democrats sort of set this precedent anyway about breaking rules like this, that's not good and that could come back to haunt them, particularly if there's another -- obviously if there's another supreme court vacancy. >> the list of gorsuches just goes on and on. they had a dozen off the top of everybody's head in washington that the list that gorsuch was on. >> right. they're all sort of youngish, they're all presentable or most of them are presentable. really this guy, i'm sure he's a lovely man and smart. but really, if he wanted to cast in an hour drama you wanted to cast this person, this is from central casting.
>> i mean, the question -- i guess one of the questions that's being calibrated is how far from scalia is he? where is he in terms of a replacement in that seat? what does he do to the balance of the court? >> well, "the washington post" i think had a story, the political scientists have looked at every single opinion of his say he's considerably to the right of both clarence thomas and alito. so i think we have the answer to that question. >> that's the scalia seat. >> he may be to right of scalia. >> the on person ever to the right of those guys. >> frank rich, welcome back from hollywood. you've wrapped on "veep." we need to see more of you. >> coming up, the world was watching when the fbi director told congress that the president of the united states was not telling the truth. at ancestry, we call it a hint.
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>> joining us now from paris is christopher dickey, world news editor for "the daily beast" and msnbc contributor. what was the european reaction to that extraordinary hearing yesterday? >> well, i think the first reaction was to report the facts that the fbi director is essentially saying president trump hasn't been telling the truth about all kind of things and that the investigation about the russian involvement is still under way. but i think also the reaction was why is trump tweeting in the middle of all this? why is trump going on and on about this on twitter when there's a very solemn hearing going on in front of the u.s. congress? i think people here are very confused watching this administration, and i think they just don't know what to do when they look at trump's presidency. so one of the things they're doing is they're starting to
turn more toward russia. we're hearing a lot here in france, even from presidential candidates about the need for closer relations with russia because russia somehow is a more traditional ally, is a more stable country. it's absurd to think that that would be the case, but that's what we're hearing. >> it's such a strange turn of logic, if we can even use that word, christopher, but is that just part of just how disorienting the trump phenomenon is in europe? >> well, i think so. i mean, i think trump is going to -- in may he's going to the nato summit, well, that's great. but the fact is people here just don't have much confidence in the united states to back them up anymore. and as chancellor merkel suggested in only slightly veiled language, there's real questions now about whether the united states shares the values of europe or at least of mainstream politicians and
leaders in europe. is the united states really supporting democracy? does it understand how serious the problems can be if you embrace russia? you know, so what they do is they say where can we look for stability? and if we're not going to get the kind of backing we need from the united states, we better start looking to cut better deals with russia. >> and how did the merkel visit play in europe, especially the moment of donald trump refusing to shakeer hand camera where everyone could hear it? >> i think people were appalled. i think merkel understood and i think many europeans understand that the policies of the trump administration are deeply hostile to the european union and in many in many respects to nato. the -- merkel when she was standing there next to him kept trying to call him out very quietly saying, you know, we believe in europe and you don't
VoteColleaguesCareProblemsHeck29Scary-donald-trumpIn-the-houseCongressmanRoomRepublicanLotalso tonight, after president trump told millions that the government is fully prepared for this hurricane, the president tweeting today, questioning how many really died in puerto rico, saying 3,000 people didn't die after hurricanes hit puerto rico, and the president now says that number was raised to make him look bad. we are also following several other breaking headlines tonight. more than a dozen explosions outside boston in several different communities. authorities are urging some residents to get out. and paul manafort, tonight news of a key meeting. is manafort about to plead guilty? is he striking a deal with robert mueller? and good evening from wilmington tonight. and as we come on the air in the west, millions along the coast here and inland are bracing now for this monster hurricane. the cape fear river right behind me here. we witnessed some of the very outer bands of the hurricane. the winds, the rain of course
here already. and there's a good chance that the eye of this hurricane could make landfall right here or just north of here. the track just out from the national hurricane center tonight. the storm is slowing down, which means it will sit here and pound the coast, dangerous one winds and several feet of rain. it is also growing in size. that flag whipping in the wind and in tatters by the end of the day. this hurricane is 500 miles wide, ocean water breaching the dunes already and rushing into the streets. these images from cape hatteras tonight. heavy rain falling, some 90,000 already without power as we're on the air here in the west. a nuclear power plant here in the path of this hurricane shutting down already. and the hurricane hasn't even made landfall yet. 1.7 million under evacuation orders tonight. i found shelters today full, folks telling me they were sent elsewhere. at this hour, hurricane florence is massive. tropical storm-force winds will stretch well more than 100 miles from the eye of the storm in each direction. that's across more than 300 miles. we do have the new track tonight, the expected landfall, the time and where.
flooding, david. >> all right, gio, get back up shore here. tonight, a nuclear plant right here in the path of the hurricane in north carolina has shut down. tonight, the destruction is already begun on the barrier islands and the police chief here telling me his biggest fear, as this hurricane sets to make landfall in the coming hours. tonight, this is what millions of americans along this coastline have feared. the outer bands of florence slamming ashore already. and the eye of the storm still hours away. along north carolina's barrier islands, in north topsail beach, dangerous winds already. waves crashing through this home, knocking down walls. water surrounding homes. this garage door smashed. and again, this hurricane doesn't make landfall until the morning hours. in avon tonight, strong waves hammering this pier. water rushing ashore. breaking through the dunes in hatteras. in nearby frisco, ocean water flowing like a river down cape
are going to floor like we haven't seen in a very long time. >> reporter: there is already help coming in from all over the country. search and rescue teams from sacramento. 80 first responders from rockville, maryland. >> thank you, guys. >> thank you, sir. >> reporter: and tonight, north carolina's governor roy cooper with some of those first responders and a final warning. >> my message today -- don't relax. don't get complacent. stay on guard. this is a powerful storm that can kill. today, the threat becomes a reality. >> reporter: authorities are telling residents here to prepare for days without power. perhaps weeks. they also fear the hurricane could flood some 16 nuclear reactors across three states. the brunswick nuclear plant announcing tonight it will shut down, saying they are, quote, currently in the path of hurricane florence and they anticipate the plant site will experience sustained hurricane-force winds.
with tropical storm-force winds now expected to reach more than 300 miles across, many families have now decided on this final night before landfall to get out. >> be safe, guys. >> you, too, be careful. >> see you in a few days. >> reporter: the forecast is calling for destructive winds pounding the coast for at least 36 hours. and several feet of rain. >> it's really somewhat of a gloomy feeling knowing that the coast of north carolina is going to be changed forever. >> reporter: on the streets here, a "pray for wilmington" sign and instructions for shelters right beside it. late today, governor cooper saying some 12,000 people are already in shelters, they're now opening even more. many are already at capacity. you can see here on the door, says the shelter is full. this is the codington elementary school, and we were told some of the folks who are here were actually brought from another shelter that was overflowing because of so many people that want to make sure they're safe during this storm. ricardo romero is one of them. so, that shelter was already full -- >> yes. >> reporter: and overflowing, so they brought you here? >> that is correct. >> those shelters stretching to
keep up with demand tonight. everyone bracing as this hurricane grows much closer, just off the coast tonight. abc meteorologist ginger zee here with the newest track. you've got landfall time, an aprax make, of course, and where, which is important. we've been talking, so is the sheer amount of time this hurricane is going to stall right here over just a huge area, several states. >> reporter: yes, several states, several miles and millions of people that will feel this for the next 36 to 48 hours, david. it is like a washing machine. so, this storm now east-southeast of us here in wilmington by 85 miles. it was the same last hour. that means this thing hasn't moved. it is supposed to move the northwest at 5 miles per hour with that tornado watch in place. we've seen tornado warnings already popping. that is one of the threats yet tonight. as that path takes it on land tomorrow morning, so, it should make landfall sometime here on our friday, move inland and then become more of a tropical storm as it passes the state line into south carolina. no matter the case, it will drop
patients, seniors here in the community. and there is an urgent effort tonight to get them help and to check on them. abc's chief national affairs correspondent in myrtle beach, south carolina, on that part of the story. >> reporter: tonight, with florence's winds, rain and angry surf bearing down, most have fled, headed for safer ground. we rode along with myrtle beach police. corporal thomas vest tells me what worries him about the storm. >> it looks like a lot of people are still trying to decide if they're going to stay or go. >> reporter: more than 420,000 people have evacuated the south carolina coast, including more than 2,200 people from 113 health care facilities. tonight, further north, at the davis community nursing home and assisted living facility in wilmington, north carolina, some 600 residents, staff and their families are sheltering in place. >> those people who are critical care, it would be difficult for us to move them hours away. >> reporter: medical professionals across both states do not want a repeat of scenes
like these in texas during hurricane harvey. and in florida, nearly 150 evacuated from this sweltering nursing home that lost power during hurricane irma. 12 of its residents lost their lives. david, there's a curfew right now from 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. the police have allowed us to be out here, but this is eeri. this is ocean boulevard, and take a look at this david, tonight, it's a ghost town. david? >> reporter: well, tom, really great that you checked on the seniors today. we certainly don't want a repeat of what we saw in texas and florida. tom will be with us straight through this hurricane. president trump sending out tweets today, reassuring that the government is, quote, completely ready for hurricane florence. but he sparked a firestorm with another tweet, denying that thousands of american citizens died in puerto rico from hurricane maria and its aftermath, claiming the number was fabricated to make him look bad. here's our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl tonight.
>> reporter: even before hurricane florence hits shore, president trump is already congratulating his team on a job well-done. >> we are getting tremendous accolades from politicians and the people. >> reporter: but even as the hurricane approaches, the president today is making a startling new claim, downplaying the human suffering caused by last year's hurricane maria in puerto rico. "3,000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit puerto rico," he tweeted. he then falsely accused democrats of inflating the death toll -- "in order to make me look as bad as possible." a comprehensive study from george washington university concluded nearly 3,000 people died by causes directly related to the hurricane and its aftermath -- a figure accepted by the government as the official death toll. that's nearly 3,000 american citizens, most of them poor and elderly. our team saw the suffering first-hand. maria ortiz caring for 11 seniors in a nursing home without power. >> we can't let them die. we can't let them die.
and we need help. all the help we can get, please. >> reporter: when president trump visited the island, he tossed paper towels to storm victims. but just 15 minutes away, in this apartment building without power or clean water, david spoke with 70-year-old maria diaz. "we don't want to die here," she told him. the governor of puerto rico today is taking issue with the president's tweets. "the people of puerto rico," he said, "do not deserve to have their pain questioned." and among political leaders, the president seems to be alone in questioning the death toll. >> i have no reason to dispute these numbers. >> with 3,000 people dead, for the president to say puerto rico was a success, a triumph of his presidency, is simply delusional. >> reporter: the white house released a photo this evening of the president getting briefed on hurricane preparation efforts. and despite the controversy
stirred up by his comments of hurricane maria, white house officials insist he is very much focused on hurricane florence and they expect he will travel to the areas affected by the hurricane as soon as is practical. david? >> jon karl, thank you. there's still much more ahead on "world news tonight" this thursday. breaking news tonight. dozens of explosions outside boston, in several different communities. you can see the homes in flames there. authorities urging some residents to get out. we'll have the latest in a moment. the deadly rampage in the west the gunman opening fire, shooting five victims in multiple locations. what authorities have now revealed. and elizabeth smart back in the news tonight and speaking out. her urgent plea tonight, just days before one of her kidnappers is about to go free. authorities say they miscalculated the time served. miscalculated the time served. we'll be right back. loors with d bucket is a hassle, meaning you probably don't clean as often as you'd for a quick and convenient clean, try swiffer wetjet. there's no heavy bucket, or mop to wring out, because the absorb and lock technology
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he shot a witness, went to a home and killed two more people, carjacking a mother and child who escaped. he killed himself when confronted by a deputy. authorities say the gunman and his wife were getting divorced. when we come back, the main story of the night, hurricane florence where it is right now, where it's expected to make landfall first thing in the morning, and what ginger is now seeing tonight in the rain fo foreca forecast. george woke up in pain. but he has plans today. hey dad. so he took aleve. if he'd taken tylenol, he'd be stopping for more pills right now. only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. aleve. all day strong. (tiffany) with counseling nicotine patch and gum, i quit for good. my tip is: get help to find the best way for you to quit smoking. (announcer) you can quit. call 1-800-quit-now for help getting free medication.
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from now until the foreseeable feature, really through saturday. and that's one of the big issues. the forecast, david, calls for more than 30 inches of rain in places, and mk income's highest rain total when it comes to a tropical system prior to this was floyd in 1999. i think we'll break that. >> wow, and to see that on the screen there, up to 40 inches of rain in some places. we'll be tracking it all for you. thank you for watching in the west. our coverage of hurricane florence continues first thing in the morning. i'll see you then. good night. tonight, combatting car
break-ins with the mighty pen in the bay area. a major move by bay area catholic diocese to expose those within its own ranks. plus -- >> criminal, fool. >> after blasting the president tonight, governor brown is about to board a ferry and head out on to the bay but not telling anyone why. a customer applies for a payment plan. the finance company says he doesn't exist. i'm michael finney. 7 on your side is coming up. >> live where you live. this is "abc7 news." another sign tonight of just how bad a problem car break-ins are, residents resorting to notes to try to keep thieves from breaking in. good evening. >> let's get right to melanie woodrow with a story you'll only see here. melanie? >> the idea for this story came from social media when a friend of mine posted a picture of a
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