i had no right to overturn the election. it s time for a new generational, conservative leader. trump is the most disliked politician in america. we can t win a general election that way. let s get some insights from jeff zeleny, laura lopez, and thai tia mitchell. hello, everybody. jeff, you and i flew in this morning from milwaukee, but we are back and ready to talk about this. you can hear my voice maybe is a little tire d. what was your overall big picture take away? i mean, this was not donald trump s debate, but this is his republican party. everything about it was the trump era of the party. what ufs struck the most by in the first hour, we did get almost a glimpse of what the post trump rare might be like, but his policy is still driving all of it. but i do think there was a lot
night that donald trump wouldn t have said? and i think there was very little. we thought going into this race in the early stages that ron desantis was going to be trump 2.0, but it turned out that might be vivek ramaswamy. we re going to show a little bit of ron desantis from last night. i want to go back to your original point, which is about nikki haley. we did mention mike pence was very much a pregnancy on the stage. so was nikki haley in a way we haven t seen when it comes to the campaign trail. let s listen to some of that. no one is telling the american people the truth. the truth is that biden didn t do this to us. our republicans did this to us too. i am unapologetically pro life. let s treat this like a respectful issue that it is and hoom news the situation and stop demonizing the situation. the problem that vivek doesn t understand is he wants to hand ukraine to russia. you re choosing a murderer over
criminal circumstance we are watching in georgia. today donald trump surrenders to authorities, again. this time it s the fulton county jail, where we expect the former president to appear later today and go through a process like any run of the mill defendant, but the booking and fingerprinting and the weighing and measuring of a former president is anything but ordinary. and husband alleged crimes of law breaking are of an insidious kind. prosecutors are accusing trump of leading a criminal enterprise with one mission to subvert democracy by stealing a presidential election. we ll start in atlanta outside the fulton county courthouse where sara murray is. what are we seeing so far? reporter: we re already starting to see some trump supporters gathering, waiting for the former president to arrive later on this evening. and this is going to be different than donald trump s previous arrest. we saw him before going to courthouses. this time he s going to be going
down. well, what did republicans all around the country run on? i don t think it is too alarmist to say that this would be the end of the department of justice s independence, and that would be just part of it. you know, it s always difficult and dangerous to believe anything that donald trump says, but i actually do think that i believe when donald trump says he intends to do this, when he says, i am your retribution, he means it. doesn t mean he ll accomplish everything, but he will try. think about what that will be like. trump 2.0 will be exponentially worse than trump 1.0. you would not have many of the adults in the room that stopped the worst abuses. and i think this is one of those moments where we need to take him at his word and the rest of his party at his word. because we re at a point now where it s not just steve bannon who is ranting, you know, ranting at the moon. he has brought much of the
overthrow the u.s. government to keep power. there will be no guardrails. there will be no guidelines. his administration will not be staffed by people who will push back against him. it will not be staffed by people who will tell him no. imagine the kinds of people who would be in trump 2.0 s cabinet, the kind of people who would be around him. you look back at the first trump administration, which was, you know, thoroughly deplorable, but you had a lot of grown-ups in the room. they are gone. that s why i said, look at what you re seeing at cpac. that is what a trump administration would be like. the first time around, he didn t know necessarily where all of the levers and buttons of power are. he did not necessarily know fully what he could get away with. now he does, making him fundamentally more dangerous when we comes back in. people should have no illusions about that. think about an administration where instead of general john