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about the burden of proof and the judge's emphasizing that the burden of proof is always at the prosecutor. it never shifts to the defendant. and if the burden of proof is not met, the judge reminds the jurors that they must find the defendant not guilty arthur, i know you said that if you were on the trump defense, you wouldn't be looking for an outright acquittal. >> you'd be aiming for a hung jury. how would you go about creating that shadow of a doubt in the mind of at least one juror you know, again, you've got to really look at the law and what the judge is going to say in the closing instructions to the jury, you know, he just gave the opening instructors and the jury, but we have a good idea as lawyers, what the judge is going to say at the end so you look at what he's going to say at the end and you bring it to the beginning because it gives you so much credibility at the end of the case. >> when the jury's here again, what you said at the beginning of the case, out of the mouth of the judge, which they usually hold in very high
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months. lauro just wouldn't concede any of that. i think they really lost her by refusing to engage with her on terms she found reasonable. >> ken, you were at the hearing yesterday. what was the tenor? just reading through it, it certainly looked like there was a lot of back and forth between judge chutkan amonishing lauro at several moments in the hearing. what was it like in there? >> so, willie, full disclosure, i was actually standing outside doing live shots for msnbc, but i was reading word for word as our colleagues inside were typing what she was saying into the google doc that i was looking at. i was really wishing we could all watch it on television because it was a remarkable hearing. the sort of reality distortion field of the trump defense in this case, you know, kind of came crashing on the shoals of this hard-nose judge who wasn't taking any nonsense. she made a number of statements that would have been beneficial for the public at large to watch her say, for example, that
mr. trump is going to be treated with no more or no less deaf deference than any other defendant. like any other defendant, he has to adjust his schedule, whatever it is, running for president or running a large corporation, to the necessities of the criminal trial. she's in charge of that. and she -- as lisa said, i mean, it seemed like a huge miscalculation by john lauro and the trump defense, because she begged them, begged them to come up with a more reasonable alternative than april 2026, which she immediately said at the start of the hearing was a nonstarter, wasn't going to happen. she rejected their notion that, you know, this massive amount of discovery made it impossible for them to get ready for trial in even a year. they didn't give her an alternative, so she went with a date that was two months removed from the january date that the special counsel's office had proposed. there was also some really interesting -- i want to read this one thing from the special counsel, molly gaston, the
attorney general, for whom rudy giuliani expresses his unbridled hatred. here is a small sample of rudy giuliani's defense. >> she's taking first amendment statements and advocacy by lawyers are turning it into a racketeering case. i know rico. rico is a friend of mine. i come from brooklyn. you know? i come from a place that's realistic. and knows how to ferret outliers. >> we will hear more of the giuliani defense later in the hour, but we begin our discussion with the consideration of why the trump defense in the georgia case has gone completely silent. leading off our discussion is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he's a professor at nyu law school and co-host of the prosecuting donald trump
the reporting you have been doing, brianna sacks. it has been essential, and so illuminating. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. that is our show for the evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. ence >> good evening alex. we have andrew weissmann joining us with two georgia experts, gwen keyes fleming and amy lee copeland. there is so much to cover in defendant trump news that just keeps coming, but apparently we are not going to get that big moment on monday, where we were supposed to hear the trump defense for the first time. unfortunately. >> listen, lawrence, my monday is free and now apparently my april of the year 2026 is booked. >> don't be surprised if it happens before that, alex. >> okay, i won't be. >> thank you, alex. >> have a good show. >> thank you.
any of the criminal cases against him now, rudolph giuliani is trying to defend himself with pride public comments on his radio show in which he repeatedly refers to georgia's secretary of state, brad raffensperger as georgia's attorney general, for whom rudy giuliani expresses his unbridled hatred. here is small sample of rudy giuliani's defense. >> he's taking first amendment statements and advocacy by lawyers are turning it into a racketeering case. i know rico. rico is a friend of mine. i come from brooklyn. you know? i come from a place that's realistic. knows how to ferret outliers. >> we will hear more of the giuliani defense later in the hour, but we begin our discussion with the consideration of why the trump defense in the georgia case has gone completely silent. leading off our discussion is
why 72 hours after this fire it's one of the biggest ports in the world, why there wasn't more supplies coming in, why it took so long to get federal and state resources. it's definitely more bustling now than it was a week ago, but people are still struggling for information. >> well thank you so much for the reporting you have been doing, brianna sacks. it has been essential, and so illuminating. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. that is our show for the evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. las >> we have andrew waste men joining us with two georgia experts, gwen keyes fleming and amy lee copeland. there is so much to cover in defendant trump news that just keeps coming, but apparently we are not going to get that big moment on monday, where we were supposed to hear the trump defense for the first time.