tower, in the campaign and during the transition. so get me some of those. and so they did. and staff signed them, pretty much knowing that the threat of actually being sued under them was remote. certainly being sued successfully was remote. the point was to chill people who worked for the government from talking to the press. from talking to members of congress. from talking to anybody and this is not the way we do business in actual america. and it is interesting you bring that up. we have had this discussion over x over again, it seems this president is running the white house like his organization like the trump organization like a corporation versus running it as the white house. versus running it as if you have government employees. and these people, they are government employees. they have different rights than someone would than working for a private corporation like the trump organization don t they? correct.
what about the state department workers with sort of an atmosphere at the whougs aite h and all these people being fired or leaving unceremoniously? we have a period similar to the beginning of the administration and people don t know what direction they re supposed to be taking. we have a new secretary of state going to be coming in assuming pompeo is confirmed, has a different policy directions on the iran deal and other things. but people don t really know who s the decision maker right now. is it the secretary? is it the president? what exactly is our job and our mission at the moment? that s something people are trying to sort out. it s been reported that the president does thrive on all of this chaos and said that change is actually good. do you think do you buy it? does he thrive on this chaos? do you think he s able to get things done despite when s happening around him? no. i think he does strive on chaos but when you think about it
forget he was law enforcement slash military nominee. once he starts losing the military, that s going to really hurt him. and replace any of these individuals. don t want to go into the administration, legal fees, no one to replace them. for confirmation positions as well with, depending on the folks what they would look like and republicans don t have a lot in the senate. as we know. roundtable is sticking with us. they will weigh in on tonight s breaking news. all sorts of breaking news on russia and trump. this is hardball. where the action is. and you look amazing.ly comfortable. when your v-neck looks more like a u-neck. that s when you know it s half-washed. add downy to keep your collars from stretching. unlike detergent alone, downy conditions to smooth. .and strengthen fibers. so, don t half-wash it.
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michael, did that extend into trump world? was there a parallel track thing where he is out there running for president but even he, and even the folks in the trump organization don t think it s going to last, so they are still pursuing business deals at the same time? is that a possible explanation here? it is. i was on the hillary clinton campaign and we didn t think he was going to win. i have heard from many donald trump insiders that he never expected he was going to win. i think that this is just more evidence that donald trump has continued to try to use his run for presidency and now the presidency as a platform to enrich himself over and over again. but toward the lies, i think that goes towards a consciousness of guilt. innocent people don t lie. what trump campaign and trump administration has repeatedly done is lie over and over again about ties to russia. and the question has to be why? why is he lying? is there a one answer that i can think of, susan, not defending