That is correct. You explained earlier that your job in the white house was to coordinate United States and Ukraine Policy, is that right . It is to coordinate United States policy visavis ukraine, correct. You testified in the spring of this year that these officials, these ukrainian officials began asking you, quote, advice on how to respond to mr. Giulianis advances, end quote. Is that correct . That is correct. What do you understand they meant by mr. Giulianis advances . I understood that to mean both his public commentary, so publicly calling for investigations into 2016, burisma, and hunter biden, as well as his direct overtours to the government of ukraine directly and through proxies. Thats what i understood. As you understand it, under Whose Authority do you think mr. Giuliani was acting under . Congresswoman, i dont know. Did the ukrainian officials you were speaking to tell you that they were being asked to im sorry, can you say that again, maam . Do you think the ukrainian
eliminated the fact that either marginalized me as a military officer or listen, i m just telling you that the ranking member met no disrespect to you. i believe that. i would like to go back to your previous testimony earlier today. much has been talked about as we ve discussed between president trump and president zelensky and the word favor. and this being interpreted as a basis for impeachment. your interpretation of the word favor, and i ll paraphrase you, feel free to correct me, you said in the military culture, which you and i are both familiar with, when a superior officer asks for a favor of a subordinate they will interpret that as a demand. is that a fair synopsis of what you previously stated? when a superior makes a request, it s an order. in short, you think your interpretation of a favor as a demand is based on your military experience and the military culture? i think that is correct. i think that is correct. is president trump a member of
we had when it comes to providing defensive lethal aid. the system itself and the signal u.s. support, yes. and it is a fact that that aid was provided under president trump and not president obama? that is correct. my last question, lieutenant colonel vindman, i know you serve at the nsc at the white house, i served for president bush on the domestic policy council. i also know as a staff member the person who sets the policy of the united states is the president, not the staff. and you testified that the president sets the policy, correct? that is correct. and i respect your deep expertise, your tremendous service to our country. we can never repay those that have worn the military uniform and served our nation. but i was struck when you testified in your deposition, i would say first of all, i m the director for ukraine, i m responsible for ukraine, i m the most knowledgeable, i m the authority for ukraine, for the national security council and the white house. i just wa
investigations? no. is one reasonable explanation that although vice president pence will do a lot of things for president trump, that he was not willing to bring up investigations into the bidens because he thought it was wrong? i m not in a position to speculate. we had not discussed those investigations in any preparatory sessions with the vice president. but you did not bring it up in the preparation for that call? no. lieutenant colonel vindman, did you ever do what was being asked of the ukrainians after that july 25th phone call? i did not, i did not render any opinion on what was being asked on the 25th. thank you, i yield back. mr. hurd. ms. williams, i want to join my colleagues in thangking you for your service. did you participate in conversations on how potential
with official u.s./ukraine policy? obviously anticorruption reforms is a big part of our policy. i understand, i was not in a position to determine whether or not these particular that s fair. colonel, is it true that president trump directed the ukrainian president on the call on july 25th to work with mr. giuliani on these investigations? that is correct. in fact, mr. giuliani has made no secret of the fact that he s acting on behalf of president trump. as mr. giuliani told the new york times, and i m going to put this on the screen, he told them, quote, my only client is the president of the united states. he s the one i have the obligation to report to, to tell him what happens. he added that the investigations would be, quote, very, very helpful to my client and may turn out to be helpful to my government, end quote. colonel, is it fair to say the