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Substantial. >> yeah. here is what i think we are looking at 1-2 punch. first of all we have people staying home at work not getting paychecks. we have businesses that arent operating here in new york city which is typically a 4 billion-dollar a day economy. could shave a tenth off of national g.d.p. but then we have all these federal dollars come in longer term we will see some kind of benefit from that its going to take a while for it to play out. $20 billion the colmes of this storm. >> shepa...