and members of his inner-most circle. we re talking about the slates of fake electors set up in battleground states. they set up as the spark for the rest of the plan as conceived by john eastman. from the very beginning from when the plan was first conceived days after the november election, attorneys for the trump campaign were well aware of the fact that their plan for slates of fake electors was how should we put it fake. the new york times reported on emails from trump lawyers that say this, quote, we would just be sending in fake electoral votes to pence so someone in congress can make an objection when they start counting votes and start arguing that the they need to be counted. he wrote that on december 8, 2020 in an email to boris epshteyn, an advisor for the trump campaign. in a followup email, the same guy, mr. will len chick wrote that alternative votes is probably a better term, a better word than fake votes. he added a smiley face emoji. the plan quickly g
trump campaign. in a followup email, the same guy, mr. will len chick wrote that alternative votes is probably a better term, a better word than fake votes. he added a smiley face emoji. the plan quickly gathered steam as the trump campaign lost case after case after case up to 16 defeats in court. rurg attempting to get legislators to intervene failed. cassidy hutchinson told the january 6th select committee that the fake electors came up in dozens of calls and meetings leading up to december 14, 2020. that is the day that joe biden officially won the electoral college and the day that slates of trump electors went ahead and met anyway in seven states. this is a side-by-side on the screen of the real electoral vote september by the state of arizona alongside the fake one
the capitol. andrew, mike s reporting and tim s analysis seem like very poor facts for donald trump. if a jury is made aware of these people, including the chairman of the joint chiefs, who is talking soberly and calmly and in a reasonable way with donald trump after his defeat to joe biden how some foreign policy decisions will be left to the next guy, if his communications director is trying to talk to him about who bested him and he believes something else, it seems like the and then is john eastman s blueprint for a coup. it seems like donald trump s tweet on december 19, where he mobilizes the violent insurrectionists. his fingerprints are on everything that happened next. absolutely.
new prosecution memo that norm eisen and others have drafted that s come out today which really demonstrates in convincing detail just how much donald trump did here. he wasn t just a cheater, he was criminal. there was a set play that he had before the election and he was even told during the election it was illegal. he was told after the election it was illegal by his own lawyers, and he did it anyway. i think that s what smith is looking at, is all of those different things, what did donald trump want to do and what was he told at the time about his plans, and any lawyer, it requires not even a law degree. it requires like three days in law school, perhaps not even that, to know that what trump was doing was obviously illegal. you know, neal, of the crimes that the committee referred, do you have any sense of based on what has become public and the folks we have access to and are able to talk to like the
russia. i have president putin. he just said it s not russia. i will say this, i don t see any reason why it would be. i have great confidence in my intelligence people. but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. i bet he was. it s almost re-traumatizing to watch that. that was five years ago today. five years ago to the moment when donald trump took the word of russian president vladimir putinments of his own intelligence community. he did so in front of the cameras on a world stage sending a clear and a very alarming signal to america s allies. fast forward those five years to today. the current president, president joe biden in that very same room, broadcast to the world a very different message about where america s allegiances lie.