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And im sure most of you know georges byline very wellin the atlantic now and new yorker before that for a decade or two. Fifteen years. You probably know his most recent book the assassins is the most important chronicle of the early years of the iraq war, the unwinding which won the National Book award in 2014 2030. And now his new book, our man we were thrilled to have an expert in Foreign Affairs in this issue and focusing on two pieces of the book of enoch and afghanistan which we will talk about in the course of this conversation but i recommend the piece heartily not as a substitute for the book but as a teaser. Im confident if you read the 8000 words in Foreign Affairs will go on to read the entire 500 or so pages in the hardcover edition. It is a really extraordinary fascinating book. Both as a chronicle of an infection on American Foreign policy and diplomacy and war over the half century or so in which Richard Holbrook was a central player but also in its portrait of this ind
Gives that ability to change. [inaudible conversations] good morning everyone. Welcome to the council of Foreign Relations its a pleasure to have george here for the belated lunch i am sure most of you know the byline very well in his new yorker articles and his most recent books and the most important chronicle of the iraq war winning the National Book award in 2014. And now his new book our man Richard Holbrook. We were thrilled to have an excerpt to focus on two pieces in afghanistan which we will talk about in this conversation i recommend the piece not as a substitute but a teaser then you will go on to read the entire 500 pages of the hardcover edition. It really is an extraordinary and fascinating book both as a chronicle and a reflection on American Foreign policy and diplomacy over that halfcentury that Richard Holbrook was a central player but also with this individual it is a really complicated rich portrait of holbrook as many of you know. I want to start not with Foreign P
come in and supply ukraine with so much money, and so many weapons. but this is a significant escalation from vladimir putin. the fact that he s calling up the reservists shows that he has no intention of backing away from this war. in fact, in his comments, he framed the war not against ukraine, he described this as a war against the west. and that the west, he didn t mention the united states, but clearly, that s the main power he s referring to, has been propping up ukraine and intends to bring down russia and bring down the russian federation the same way that the west primarily the united states, toppled the soviet union. so he is framing this very much as an existential fight for russia. and in order to fight this fight, he s calling up the reservists and making nuclear threats to show that he is serious and that he has no intention of backing down. so, richard, is there a sense this could lead to some sort of nuclear standoff? i think that is where this is heading.
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