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few oligarchs, and i argue we don't needed to do anything radical in order to change this, all we have to do is go back to the american tradition. so, for example, justice clarence thomas, no leftist, has argued that we should apply the common carrier dock transcribe -- doctrine to big tech, right? your phone company cannot censor you based on what you say on the phone. a rail transport company can't do that. we need to apply that to banks and big tech as well so americans aren't un-personned from the financial system or from the perspective by corporate power. will: yeah. we've begun to understand the different between capitalism and corporatism, therefore, its effect. it needs regulation within america. rachel: yeah, absolutely. will: all right. tyranny inc., thank you so much. >> thank you both. rachel: thank you. all right, straight ahead, a fox weather hurricane alert, hilary expected to hit the u.s. just hours from now as warnings grow for possible catastrophic

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to run our government when we have elected officials. >> there's another deeper tragedy or failure here which is how to deal with big tech. the reason the hunter story was suppressed when it really mattered was because not just government, but a lot of our corporations now are deeply politicized as welch and -- as well. and congress used to talk about reform with big tech. that, unfortunately, has gone away. will: that's an unholy alliance, big government and and big tech. you have a new book called tyranny inc. out about not just government, as you point out, but how private enterprise crushed american liberty. what do you talk about it in tyranny inc.? >> it's just about the coercion that americans increasingly face. we're used to thinking of it as only what government does, but now increasingly we face politicized coers from big business as well like big tech censorship which is a problem that hasn't gone away. okay, maybe twitter has changed a little bit, but there's many other platforms, and basically a

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