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president. many americans say race relations are only getting worse. and the money lead. for one easy payment of $4914.95, who wouldn't want a blanket with sleeves or a bowl made of bacon? if you happen to have jumped on a hot deal as seen on tv only to get saddled with extra fees and charges, then do i have a product for you. a federal lawsui to get your money back. but wait, there's more. good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with breaking news. the dow finishing down nearly 300 points today but if you were watching cnn this morning, you might be scratching your head right about now, because the day started with a great jobs report exceeding analyst expectations. 295,000 more americans taking home paychecks in february. the rate of people out of work dipping to its lowest level since before barack obama became president obama. and yet the market is down. why? what's weighing it down? let's go straight to allison kosak. a lot of good news in this report. what's the deal? >> the number blowing away expectations. in fact the number 295,000 jobs added in february kind of off the charts here. what you're seeing is a continuation of this solid trend for 12 months where you are seeing triple digit gains for jobs then there's that unemployment number the lowest in seven years. that rate falling from 5.7% to 5.5%. plus according to the labor department people aren't just getting low wage jobs. they are finding jobs in finance and accounting in i.t. so what you're seeing is really momentum here that's expected to continue. >> but you said all these good things. why isn't wall street popping the champagne? what's the problem? >> that is really the money question today. so we know the fed is looking to raise interest rates and the question is when. so what the fed is doing is it's looking for signs that the economy is strong so what this stellar jobs report essentially does is give the fed the green light to go ahead and raise rates which by the way, would make loans more expensive so it would be more expensive for you to say refinance your mortgage or take out a loan for a car. also raising rates could potentially slow down the economy. here's the beef that wall street has with it though. wall street hit the sell button today because investors aren't sure if the economy is ready for these higher rates. they look to other reports that are weak to mixed at best. you look at retail sales down. auto sales down. durable goods orders down. all of these reports are showing weakness in the economy, not to mention wages. those wages that we make the earnings we make in our jobs not making the strides that they should. rents are up if you have been to the grocery store you see meat's higher. for a lot of people it doesn't feel like the recovery is with them. it feels like the recovery has left them behind. wall street is worried about all these things. >> thanks so much. turning to the top story, from the front lines of the middle east where hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians are potentially caught in the cross-hairs of isis 350,000 people in a syrian city are currently under siege from the terrorists according to a human rights group. but if you hop across the border to iraq you can see progress against these brutal terrorists. overnight the iraqi military and shia militias liberated a town on the outskirts of tikrit. the fighters there are taking on isis and they look stronger and better prepared than we have seen in quite some time. the opposite of the overmatched soldiers who tucked tail and ran away from isis last summer. a possible reason why is most of them are not iraqi military. they are shia militias and they are being commanded by iranian generals. let's go to cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr. is the pentagon concerned about this change in the makeup of who is leading this war against isis in iraq? >> reporter: well jake the pentagon keeping a very sharp eye on this because while there may be some short-term gains from iran's heshgs there may be some very long-term dangers lurking. the latest u.s. military intelligence assessment? most of the fighters here are iranian-backed shia militia with iranian weapons fighting to reclaim the city of tikrit. signs of iran's influence everywhere. iran's farsi language heard here as field commanders review their plans. the pentagon watching iran with a close eye, happy to have the iranians doing the bulk of the ground fighting but worried it could again open up a cauldron of shia versus sunni violent. >> the sectarianism that has happened for thousands of years, it could be strategically disastrous. >> reporter: u.s. officials also worry the fragile iraqi government in the long run will become a client state of tehran. with the u.s. spending millions to train iraqi units, the risk is that it all falls into iranian hands. >> in terms of ensuring that our resources don't migrate over to shia militia, there's no easy way to be absolutely certain that that can't happen. >> reporter: the u.s. wants iraq's prime minister to guarantee a military with sunni representation. vital to stopping sunnis' support for isis. just announcing security forces east of fallujah and west of ramadi are launching new operations in the sunni heartland. iraq's reliance on iran apparently working south of tikrit which baghdad says has been liberated. a potential u.s. victory of sorts, these marines in western iraq helping advise iraqis the nearby town of al baghdadi now liberated from isis according to the coalition. just don't count on the u.s. joining forces with iran. >> there is no cooperation between us and iranian forces. we will have to count on the iraqi government to do those things necessary to number one, ensure that things don't trend towards greater sectarian violence. >> reporter: now, no formal cooperation with iran but a senior u.s. military official reiterates here's what does happen. when the u.s. is flying those coalition war planes they tell the iraqis when and where they are flying and they count on the iraqis indeed to tell the iranians to stay out of the way. jake? >> barbara starr at the pentagon thank you so much. let's bring in cnn counter terrorism analyst phil mudd. he used to track terrorists for the cia. phil good to see you. looks like iranian development -- involvement here runs pretty deep. if you were still with the cia, how concerned would you be about the iranians being involved in these operations especially in the leadership role they're playing? >> you've got to be concerned because going back years after the iranian revolution in 1979 when we have seen power vacuums across the middle east lebanon, fast forwarding to iraq remember we talked about the houthis, backed by iran in yemen. bh when there is a power vacuum the iranians will move in. in this case you have a country on their border that is two-thirds shia. we forget that. not surprising the vacuum after the u.s. departure the iranians are there in force. >> what can we expect? the bottom line is -- look i understand the iranians are state sponsor of terror but if isis is this enemy and the other arab countries, saudi arabia uae, qatar, aren't stepping up and sending in troops and the u.s. isn't sending in troops to combat positions, shouldn't we be grateful that somebody's doing it? >> i don't know if grateful's the word i would use. this is the organization that murdered people americans, backed hezbollah to murder americans in lebanon 30 years ago. the point is you asked the right question. what's the reality here. the reality is if we leave this situation in a shia-led government run by a shia administration looks across the border and says there's somebody that's not only going to provide weaponry they will provide expertise on the front lines, not a surprise about what you get at the end here. that is iranians in the battlefield which is what we just saw. >> let's talk about the other battlefield, cyber. a new study mapped out the isis presence over social media. anywhere from 46,000 to 70,000 accounts supporting isis terrorists. what do you do? >> not much you can do. to me this is so striking because when i started in the world of terrorism decades ago, the cauldron was afghanistan. if you wanted to get in touch with somebody in al qaeda, you had to travel out there, find somebody physically. there wasn't a virtual world, and get in that way. now we are talking about facebook and twitter. this is not just about operations and terror operations in places like paris. it is about the spread of a revolutionary idea to european cities american cities. it's stunning how quickly this is taking hold around the world. >> revolutionary and also of course terrorists. phil thank you so much. appreciate it. the national lead now. surprising new poll on race relations. 50 years after that violent clash on that bridge in selma, alabama, signified a crucial turning point in the civil rights movement. despite how far the u.s. has come including electing the first african-american president, many americans now feel that race relations in this country may actually be taking a turn for the worse. that's next. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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>> i'm still analyzing it. >> reporter: you're still looking at it. don't you think you should have known some of the things that came out, the racist e-mails, the numbers? were you just trying to bilk people out of money instead of protesting them? telling your department to just go ticket them? >> thank you. i will be in touch. get ahold of jeff. >> reporter: i have talked to everyone. i have given you literally every opportunity. we have been talking for days and days and days. all we want is an answer from you. what do you think of this doj report and what are you going to do about it? just any idea what it is you are going to do yourself about this as chief of the department? >> i'm going to analyze the report and take action where necessary. >> that doj report of course found a pattern of discrimination in ferguson by police and by the court system. it's a situation cities face nationwide. we have an officer just next door to ferguson in st. louis with us now. thank you for joining me again. i appreciate it. attorney general eric holder gave some extreme examples of racism when he outlined the doj report this week. he said ferguson police exclusively reserved the use of dogs when it came to dealing with african-americans. he said blacks were twice as likely as whites to be searched in routine traffic stops. the police chief there had to know about these things one would think. should he be held accountable, do you think? >> absolutely. when he says he's going to analyze the report and take action, i have zero confidence in that. there's no way that he couldn't be fully aware of the culture that exists on his department. he's the man at the top. i'm sure he's clear on what kind of officers are serving under him and he's also part of shaping that culture. >> you think he should step down? >> absolutely. i think he should be gone. i think the mayor should be gone. i think they need to look seriously at disbanding the entire police department. a similar action was taken with the department adjacent to ferguson the jennings police department, for very similar reasons. there is a broken trust between police in communities nationwide and i think ferguson provides the best example of that right now. new york city too. >> let's talk about that nationally. president obama addressing the doj report said he doesn't think what happened in ferguson is typical, but he also said it's also not isolated. how prevalent do you think it is institutional racism in police departments? >> it's absolutely prevalent. institutional racism permeates just about every system that we have in this country but especially is it clear in the criminal justice system and especially in the police community relationship. we have seen many many examples of officers who act on bias and racism from the position of power on citizens who have no power to respond. the president of my academy class when i graduated police academy, afterward some years later in 2008 when president obama was elected, sent out an e-mail that said he can't believe he lives in a nation full of n-lovers. he said the actual word in his e-mail and accidentally hit send on it to people who weren't supposed to receive it but he policed in black communities all over st. louis. institutional racism is something that nationally, you have to come to grips with. it is part of the foundation of our country. francis scott key was a member of the colonization society which advocated the repateriation of african-americans back to the country they came from. he understood the institution of racism in this country would probably be too much for us to overcome. >> there are a lot of african-american policemen as i don't need to tell you as a former police officer. a heroic african-american police officer was shot and killed last night in my hometown of philadelphia. what is it like for black police officers if there is this institutional racism on police forces as you say? >> for too many of them it is a struggle internally to reconcile being a part of the culture and activities of some of the officers they work with with their identities and the connection they have to the communities that they come from. in that respect, we have put together a group of officers current and former from around the country. the national coalition of law enforcement officers for justice reform and accountability very newly formed who absolutely are invested in building relationships with the communities we come from by aggressively attacking the institutional racism and lack of accountability that exists throughout law enforcement in this country. we know that the best way to change the culture that you have seen manifest itself in some very ugly ways in new york in los angeles, in ferguson is from inside the culture. we are planning to be very aggressive about addressing that issue. >> one last thing i want to ask you. in a new cnn/orc poll nearly 40% of americans said race relations worsened since president obama was elected. that's not just african-americans saying it. it's whites liberals conservatives. how do you interpret this poll? do you think there is more racism now, more accusations of racism? are we just talking about it more? are we seeing it more because of the prevalence of cameras? why? >> i think the election of president obama is where the topic started for that poll was a catalyst to bring out what was always there. it made it more pronounced. it gave people more racist and act on racist ideas and ideologies and incentive to act, a motivation to act because they see change is coming and the idea of white supremacy is hard to give up for some people. >> always a pleasure. thanks for joining me. appreciate it. >> all right, jake. up next on "the lead," it is one of the biggest aviation mysteries in world history. one year later, we still do not know what really happened to malaysia airlines flight 370. what the pilot's sister has to say now about claims that he was at fault. plus it seemed to be hillary clinton or bust for democrats in 2016 but in the wake of that e-mail controversy, is her party now scrambling to find a plan b? 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>> the sister says don't blame my brother for this. it's not his fault. it's really hard to believe it's been a year since this plane disappeared. it's one of the greatest mysteries of aviation history. the families of those 239 people on board, they still want answers. they want some closure. they want to lay their loved ones to rest. so the search it does continue as well as a host of some of these theories. they are bizarre in terms of what happened to this plane. one year later and still nothing. the search team still insists the debris field is here on the ocean floor, a location they say satellite data points to. above the water's surface, search crews are still weathering cyclones and 50 foot waves. below, mountains, trenches and volcanos make up the treacherous terrain. 40% of the priority search zone has been covered but no wreckage recovered. and with no real clues as to what happened to the boeing 777 after it lost radar contact less than an hour into the flight which took off from kuala lumpur theories abound. a recent "new york times" report cites investigators who favor the rogue pilot explanation, the suspicion that the captain or his copilot intentionally took the plane off course. there is however, no evidence that either had motive to do so. the chief of malaysia airlines continues to defend the crew. >> we do not suspect any one of our crew. the captain is a very capable man. >> reporter: the pilot's sister today urged people to stop blaming her brother, saying as things stand today with no tangible evidence none of you have the right to blame him for any wrongdoing. even adding that as an average student in school he would not have been able to mastermind such a plot. nobody knows why the plane lost contact, but some aviation experts theorize there could have been a massive electrical problem or a cockpit fire or loss of cabin pressure and oxygen, turning it into a ghost plane. >> why something hasn't shown up yet, that is the true mystery of it because of the fact that if it had crashed, in the way we think it did which is to run out of fuel and hit the water and break up into pieces there would be pieces somewhere. >> reporter: aviation analyst jeff wise carried on his own investigation into the missing plane, and has another theory. russian hijackers who took the plane to kazahkstan for reasons unknown. none of these theories of course can be proven or disproven until some shred of the plane is found and even then we may never know exactly what happened. the families are afraid that if nothing is found by may, and that's the anticipated date of the search in the priority zone that it's actually going to be complete they are afraid it is actually going to end the search. malaysia's transport minister tells us if this missing plane is not found by then investigators are going to go back to the drawing board. that's his words. >> 239 people disappear. thank you so much. the politics lead. we have just learned that a top ranking u.s. senator and very high profile powerful democrat is expected to face criminal charges. he's the same guy who was once under investigation for soliciting prostitutes until the women said that it wasn't true. they changed their story. what are the feds going afr senator bob menendez for now? 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ask your doctor about cialis for daily use. for a free 30-tablet trial go to cialis.com welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. some breaking news in our politics lead. a top senate democrat expected to face federal corruption charges. cnn first to report the justice department is preparing to seek an indictment against new jersey democratic senator robert menendez. let's go to cnn's evan perez who broke the story and has the details. evan what do prosecutors allege this democratic powerhouse did? >> well jake he had this very apparently lucrative relationship with a friend and prominent democratic donor, solomon melgin a doctor down in florida who has had many many issues with the federal government including being accused of defrauding medicare and according to the justice department according to prosecutors investigating this for nearly five years, he was using his office the senator was using his office to try to help his friend and donor in exchange for gifts. >> when can we expect the charges to be officially unveiled? >> we expect it to be announced probably by the next attorney general, loretta lynch. attorney general eric holder has already approved the request by prosecutors to go forward on this. >> this is not the first allegation of wrongdoing against senator menendez who we should point out has been on the show many times to talk about foreign relations and other issues. has his office responded to this allegation at all? >> they have responded. they have denied this before and we have a statement from the senator's spokesperson. as we have said before we believe all the senator's actions have been appropriate and lawful and the facts will ultimately confirm that. any actions taken by senator menendez or his office have been to appropriately address public policy issues and not for any other reason. he as you said has been looked at for many many things before including by then u.s. attorney chris christie back in 2006 and more recently for allegations that he hired underaged prostitutes and all these things are not going to be part of the federal case when this comes forward. >> be interesting to see what the actual specific charges are, because the world of politics and fund-raising and favors -- >> it's going to be a tough case. >> it's often murky business. thank you. appreciate that. in other politics news revelations this afternoon that the white house and the office of former secretary of state hillary clinton were both aware of the controversy, potential controversy of her use of private e-mails for public business back in august. a senior administration official telling cnn the white house was concerned over the private e-mail address she used for official business and they did have conversations with hillary clinton's personal staff about the issue. cnn senior political correspondent brianna keilar joins us live with the latest. sounds like there's some tension between the obama and clinton camps over this? >> it's almost palpable isn't it as you hear white house officials talk. it's interesting to note the timeline here. the white house, certainly some white house officials were told by senior administration official who talked to our white house correspondent michelle kosinski they were aware secretary clinton used a personal e-mail account. they were aware back in 2009. not too concerned about it because they expected she was turning over that information to the state department recordkeeping system. the white house became concerned about secretary clinton's sole use of this personal e-mail address this summer once house republicans subpoenaed benghazi documents and it came to light that she wasn't complying with the policy certainly as they understood she would be. the firestorm over hillary clinton's use of personal e-mail while secretary of state dominated the state department briefing friday. >> i'm not the spokesperson for her office. people may have been confused about that this week. >> reporter: reporters asked if clinton failed to follow the e-mail rules she signed off on an internal department cable from 2011 said employees should avoid using personal e-mail to conduct government business. but state department spokeswoman marie harf downplayed the guidelines calling them -- >> helpful tips when using personal e-mail. this cable is a guidance on best practices. it's certainly not regulations. >> reporter: in 2012 a scathing inspector general report admonished u.s. ambassador to kenya for, among other things using personal e-mail to conduct government business. at the same time clinton, his boss was doing the same. today, he told cnn he was very surprised at the double standard. at clinton's request, the state department will review 55,000 pages of e-mails the obama administration directed her to turn over last year. a clinton aide has said she turned over anything having to do with her work at the state department. but harf conceded they are taking secretary clinton's word for it when she says she's handing over what's relevant and keeping what's not. meanwhile, the white house says clinton abided by the federal records act, even as it touts an e-mail policy clinton did not follow. >> did members of the administration receive e-mails from hillary clinton while she was secretary of state? >> that, i don't know. i do know that obviously the president has a very firm policy that e-mails should be kept on government systems. he believes in transparency. >> reporter: some political observers wonder if the controversy leaves an opening for any other potential democratic candidates to challenge clinton's expected run for president. former maryland governor martin o'malley is traveling in the coming weeks to the early states of iowa and new hampshire. and passing on a chance to run for the senate seat that barbara mikulski announced monday she will soon vacate. >> there are rumors that former maryland governor martin o'malley may enter the race and challenge hillary for the democratic nomination. hillary's not worried. who's going to go from being totally unknown to beating her for the presidency. how would that ever happen? >> pretty funny but a lot of political folks believe there isn't some obama-like person waiting in the wings ready to kind of jump in there. i was talking with one strategist one democratic strategist who said this is really going to be the primary for hillary clinton, episodes like this. it seems like maybe she's in a primary against herself. as you can see, the competition is fierce. >> brianna, thank you so much. the girlfriend of a murdered russian opposition activist fears she could be next. now russia's world-famous chess master who was also a vocal putin critic says she has reason to be afraid. we will talk to him live next. plus it's a blanket, it's a robe it's a scam? 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>> i doubt very much she's in any real danger if she is now in kiev. i would more worry if she was kept in moscow and now since she left moscow i guess ukrainian security will find ways to protect her if these threats are real. >> who do you think is behind nemtsov's death? >> there are only two choices. either putin himself gave an order or his closest allies his inner circle. because this murder took place at one of the bridges that led to kremlin. those places are the most protected places in russia maybe in the world. there are more video cameras there than fort knox. to imagine that these cameras couldn't catch this event is inconceivable. so it's quite suspicious that the only camera that is being used to present this video is the camera of the moscow city channel. also there was one more video from the video register on the car passing by and those videos proved that it was a well-prepared murder and i don't believe that anybody but kremlin security could operate in this area. >> is there a reason to do it specifically on the street right near the kremlin? it seems an area that a, would point to the obvious at least acquiescence by the russian government and it would seem to be more difficult to do. >> actually, to the contrary. if i'm right in assuming that the russian security service has been involved this is the safest place for them because they control it completely. and this is probably only place in moscow where you don't have city police. there are plenty of city police anywhere. no passersby, almost no cars. the bridge it's quite a long distance where you can spot any car or any stranger who is approaching to the spot so i think from the point of view of those organized and carried this murder one of the bridges leading to kremlin is the best place for this atrocity because they control it totally. >> you are a high profile putin critic. are you afraid for your life speaking out like this? >> if i was afraid for my life i wouldn't leave my country two years ago. boris was an optimist probably the bravest of us you will he stayed there and kept blasting the regime published his reports and the last report he was about to release was about putin and war on ukraine, where boris collected evidence to prove the presence of regular russian troops in eastern ukraine. here in new york city or even traveling abroad in europe i feel safer because no one is 100% safe but it's much safer than being on the bridge opposite the kremlin. >> we hope you stay safe. thanks so much for joining us. appreciate it. up next on "the lead," an infomercial misleading? 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turns out those sweet limited time offers that are not available in any stores may be too good to be true after all. imagine that. tough to believe. but wait, there's more. these pitch masters are now off the hook for ripping you off for just two easy payments of $4 million. operators are standing by. >> the blanket with sleeves. >> just admit it. you have been tempted by these ads before. if you're already watching this in your snuggy while eating out of your perfect bacon bowl the offer might be getting even better. >> but wait. order right now and get twice the perfect bacon bowls free. >> that's because the federal trade commission now says these buy one get one free tactics -- >> you will get a second cat's meow free. >> -- are bogus. if you bought in you may get your money back and then some. all-star marketing group, the group behind products like the cat's meow the perfect brownie pan, and yes, the snuggy has agreed to settle charges of deceptive marketing with the ftc for the low, low price of $7.5 million. but wait, there's more. just for settling all-star marketing will now incur additional fees from the new york attorney general's office totalling $500,000. together that's an $8 million payout. so how does the ftc say the snuggy maker fleeced us? according to the complaint, all-star made ordering now easy but made paying for it intentionally confusing. did you experience misleading prompts for telephone ordering additional shipping and handling fees were you charged without being able to confirm the price of your order? there's got to be a better way. introducing the now new rules for all-star. that's right, the company agreed to disclose the true cost of any goods it sells and get express authorization before billing the customer. in a statement, all-star says while we have always believed our process has complied with the law we are proud to have successfully worked with the ftc and the new york attorney general to improve them and set new standards for transparency. hopefully those new standards are not a limited time offer. consumers are standing by. by the way, $8 million probably will not hurt the company a whole lot. five years after its first release, the snuggy has sold more than 30 million units and raked in more than $500 million. we're not sure if that includes shipping and handling. probably. in other money news there's now a movement for a woman to make an appearance on money. an organization called women on 20s is trying to convince president obama and congress to replace the controversial seventh president of the united states with a woman, someone like rosa parks or eleanor roosevelt. the group wants it to happen by 2020, the 100th anniversary of the ratification of the 19th amendment granting women the right to vote. guess they don't like old hickory. the pop culture lead. now moving on to today's pop culture lead which comes with a pretty catchy tune. we have good reason to get this '80s classic stuck in your head today. the music duo hall and oates from the great city of philadelphia wrote this song. now they are suing the makers of a granola cereal with the name haulin' oats. get it? 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critics. also coming up a war of work zone between the u.s. president and the prime minister of israel. and a man killed on the ground. we'll hear a witness explain what he saw. hello, everyone, i'm errol barnett. eye welcome hello, and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world, this is "cnn newsroom." we begin this hour with the latest information out of moscow at this moment. mourners are gathering to pay their final respects to boris nemtsov. you're looking at some footage that just came if to us moments ago as people gather around his open casket this morning. a memorial service has just begun for the prominent opposition activist. he was shot and killed while walking across a bridge near the kremlin on friday night. our senior international correspondent, matthew chance is there at the memorial and joins us now with more. just set the scene for us as this gets underway. what's happening around you? and what will happen throughout the day? >> reporter: that's right. we're at the center in the middle of moscow where this memorial service has now got underway. you see the open casket of boris nemtsov behind me. there are security guard been the casket somebody's family members. i can see his mother his daughter, his niece, a number of other family members, as well. obviously at the start of this long process of mourning throughout the course of the day that willum youly end in the funeral itself. -- that will ultimately end in the funeral itself. outside, hundreds have gathered in the streets and park that's just outside the center to carry in bouquets of flowers and tributes to boefr is nemtsov. that process will go on for the next four hours, we understand to give people the opportunity not you just family and people who knew him, but members of the general public in moscow to pay their respects. after that the casket will be closed and taken to the cemetery elsewhere in the capital where boris nemtsov will be laid to rest. we are at the start of a process which will take much of the day. this funeral process to see off finally boris nevermtsov. >> there is much more to see and do. we'll stay connected as the memorial continues. as far as who was in the rom and who was able to attend i understand some ukrainian officials were denied visas ahead of the funeral. i'm wondering if we have a sense of who will be there today. >> reporter: well certainly it are going to be dignitaries here from russia opposition figures. i just saw a former prime minister of russia here paying his respects and laying a wreath at the coffin of boris never sopho. diplomats from various countries -- nemtsov. diplomats from various countries. a number of officials from poland and ukraine say they've been denied visas for the country, for russia for various reasons. not specifically because they were going to be denied to come to this funeral you but because of the onmicrosofty of course, that exists at this point between russia and the european union and specifically with ukraine. despite this we are expecting to see a stream of dignitaries from the various foreign embassies here in moscow who will send representatives to of course pay their respects. i think as i speak now, i can see the american ambassador. if we could pan over to the american ambassador here. about to pay his respects there. jose gentleman. there shaking hands with people about to walk toward the coffin of bories theme -- of boris nemtsov to pay respects. the you united states has been condemning the killing and calling on russia and on president putin specifically to make sure that the culprits whoever carried this out, whoever ordered the killing, whoever pulled the trigger to be brought to justice. and of course vladimir putin and the kremlin have vowed that they will do that. although there's skepticism i think, among the russian public that this will happen. >> month use chance speaking to us from inside the memorial service. boris nemtsov's body is being seen now by relatives and well wishers. and matthew chance with diplomats also in the room. we'll connect again with you as this all gets underway today. as matthew mentioned, there are many theories swirling around nemtsov's death. some going as far to be conspiracy theories. the former deputy prime minister was one of president vladimir putin's vote spoken critics. investigators are looking into the possible that it could have been behind the killing. ivan watson walks us through nemtsov's final steps. >> reporter: the staff here at the liberal russian radio station echo is in mourning for buddy named soft. he gave thousands and thousands of hodelia intercareer. his final interview took place in this sued hours earlier. he was murdered on friday night. the focus of his conversation was the war in neighboring ukraine. >> created by the russian government. boris nemtsov spoke about the need of reforms, of democratic reforms, political reforms just to struggen against surprises and stop the war. >> reporter: after his okie must be interviewed, he came here to moscow's iconic red square. of after 9:30 p.m. he met his ukrainian girlfriend and they came to this upscale restaurant bosco, to have dinner. after 11:00 at night, the two came out of the restaurant and walked through red square. you've got lenin's tomb down there. of course, you have the magnificent st. basil's cathedral and would have walked past the memorial. this area is bristling with security cameras, red square is arguably one of the most closely monitored, heavily guarded places in all of russia. it's here on the bridge mears away from the red brick walls of the kremlin that nemtsov took his final steps around 11:30 p.m. on friday. he was walking here with his girlfriend when at least one unknown attacker fired a series of shots, threw his back killing him almost instant and leaving the world with the burning we can -- who killed boreis nemtsov. >> that was ivan watson. we're showing a live look from moscow as the memorial service for boris nemtsov gets underway. he will be laid to rest later today. matthew chance is in the room. we will have continuing coverage throughout the hour on cnn. we're focusing on the other big story. iran's nuclear capabilities. world views are clashing in washington. israel and the u.s. agree iran should not have nuclear weapons. when it comes to how to achieve that there's a big and bitter divide. in a speech to congress tuesday, benjamin netanyahu is expected to lay out what he believes is the beginning of a nuclear deal between iran and the u.s. netanyahu, though wants tougher sanctions against iran. he downplayed any friction on monday. >> my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteem office that he holds. i vhave great respect for both. israel and the united states will continue to stand together because america and israel are more than friends. we're like a family. this agreements -- disagreements in family are always uncomfortable. but we must always remember this we are family. >> now when it comes to u.s. and israeli relations, president barack obama and mr. netanyahu seem to be on the same page. you but the president says the best plan for iran is to freeze nuclear activity for at least a decade. >> i don't think it's permanently destructive. i think that it is a distraction from our focus. and our focus should be how do we stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> mr. obama says the object of all the strife, a nuclear deal with iran doesn't each look promising right now. diplomats involved in the iran nuclear talks including the u.s. secretary of state and his iranian counterpart aren't letting the events in washington derail things in switzerland. they're meeting to keep working toward a pact. john kerry's warning mr. netanyahu not to spill any sensitive information. >> we are concerned boy reports that suggest selective details of the join going negotiations will be public in the coming days. i want to say publicly there doing so will make it more difficult to reach the goal this israel and others say they share. >> what's interesting is that on the political side mr. netanyahu's facing both criticism and support for his upcoming speech to the u.s. congress. what do the people of israel think? cnn's kate bolduan met with people in the heart of jerusalem. >> reporter: as diverse as the landscape, the culture, and the israeli poem themselves so are the opinions here on their prime minister's decision to speak before congress. a marine poll suggests the public is split down the mid. i saw that firsthand at this dinner party in the heart of - jerusalem. thank you very much for having us. this woman thinks it's wrong and all about re-election. what do you make of it? >> i think this is a classic move of distracting voters from domestic issue to foreign policy. >> you think this is a campaign snuf. >> totally. >> this woman disagrees. >> i'm amused by the power that left seems to give to netanyahu heat. wins he is giving a speak e speech on a topic that he knows a lot about, but it's still just a peach. >> reporter: just a speech but its focus remains a central issue concerning all israelis. the threat of a nuclear iran. >> every israeli no matter what their politics on some deep level feels a deep sense of insecurity about our own survival. >> reporter: do you think anything that netanyahu says in the speech can push the needle on the negotiations with iran? >> one way or the other, i think netanyahu isn't going to be the reason that america makes this decision. >> i agree. i'm worried that he will be blameded for it. -- blamed for it. >> will he be given credit if america stays out of it? >> and i doubt he will be begin credit. it's lose-lose. that's why i think it's such a good idea. >> most people think that the speech is not going to affect the negotiations with iran. most people are concerned about this wolf trap between the united states and israel. >> reporter: the professor is an expert on the american/israeli relationship. >> there were many crises but this is the worst. >> reporter: you think it is the worst? >> because it has been lingering for a long period of time. there's very little trust between the leaders, and the disagreement and the crisis is about almost everything. >> reporter: back at the dinner table, these israelis hope that doesn't mean irreparable damage. >> the connection of israel and the united states goes so deep and on so many levels -- yeah we're going through a bad time, but we'll get over it. >> reporter: cnn, jerusalem. to understand our very high interest in this story you've got to remember the back story to this visit. house speaker john boehner invited mr. netanyahu to speak in front of congress without letting the white house know. a major breach of protocol. our fareed zakaria weighed in on that. >> i think the whole episode is a very bad precedent. to have the opposing party when it 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what anthony blackburn shot on his cell phone. in this clip you see the man known as africa get taken to the ground. police say he was shot when he reached for an officer's gun. the police chief says it appears they did everything they could to defuse the situation, but blackburn says the situation got out of hand quickly. >> i've never seen something like that turny to horrible hoe quickly -- turn so horrible so quickly. you hear the officers saying "can you back up? can you back up?" that was one of the officers this fired the shots. after he came and stayed mad, i was ready to get up out of there. >> blackburn also says he did not see africa the man known as africa reach for the gun. meanwhile, investigators are analyzing video from two police body cameras, as well as that cell phone video. jason carroll took the recording to an audio expert to see what it might reveal. [ gunshots ] >> reporter: key to the investigation in the lapp shooting will not just -- lapd shooting will not be just what the officers did but what they said. paul ginsburg is a recorded evidence specialist. he has been in the listening business for 40 years. think of him as an audio archaeologist, a man who digs for sound. >> it's a puzzle. each of my cases is a puzzle. >> reporter: first, listen to a portion of that amateur video captured by a by stanner in its original -- bystander in its original form. [ shouting ] [ gunfire ] >> reporter: that's a lot of noise. it sounds like you can hear someone saying "drop the gun" in that. >> yes, and it will be much more prominent after we subtract out all of the background sounds. >> reporter: now listen again. this time to the enhanced version. some of the ambient sound has been suppressed background sounds minimized. >> drop the gun! drop the gun! drop the gun! >> reporter: listen again -- >> drop the gun! drop the gun! >> reporter: and again -- >> drop the gun! drop the gun! drop the gun! >> reporter: the enhanced version was run through a sophisticated computer program which shows five distinct so-called markers for the sound of gunshots. >> there you can very clearly hear five shots? >> five shots. i hear and see them. >> reporter: each of the spikes is gunshots? >> one, two, three, four and five. >> reporter: that's what the spikes are? >> these are markers. >> reporter: but is there even more here? police say the officer shot the suspect during a struggle after the man reached for an officer's gun. >> you can hear the young officer who is primarily engaged in the confrontation saying "he has my gun. he has my gun." >> reporter: the los angeles police department made it clear that it appeared to them they definitely heard one of their officers saying, "he has my gun. he has my gun." >> he might well be here. >> reporter: we listened to the enhanced audio again. >> drop the gun! >> okay i heard the word "gun" four times. >> you can hear it four times -- >> did comes out. >> reporter: when we listen more closely, you can actually hear the word "gun" four times, meaning someone is using the word two more times. the use of the word "gun" barely audible. who says it? the police or the man on the ground? even with the audio enhanced, it's unclear. like so much in the case. [ bleep ] >> reporter: jason carroll, cnn, new york. the mayor of cleveland, ohio is apologizing for a legal document that blames a 12-year-old boy for his own death in a police shooting. you may remember tamir rice was playing with a pellet gun in a parker in his home when officers shot him within seconds of arriving. the officers he didn't know the boy's gun was fake. in responding to a lawsuit from the family the city said tamir's death was caused by his failure to exercise due dire avoid injury. the mayor admits the wording was insensitive. tamir's mother says there's no excuse. >> this is not the character or personality of the city of cleveland. this is not to be that insensitive to family even to victims is not our character or personality. and so once it became gun me that this happened that we immediately went to how can we correct this. >> the whole world seen the same video like i seen. i'm sure the world is saying you guys never gave him a chance. with that said, it can never be justified. >> the rice family says it wants an apology for the officer's lack of proper training. one of the biggest attacks against isis yet. coming up the fight to route the militants from tikrit. so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. tikrit. australia plans to send 300 more respect to to iraq to help train iraqi forces in their fight against isis. the troops will join 600 australian airmen and soldier already in iraq. australia's prime minister made the announcement just a few hours ago. >> i want to stress that we haven't taken this decision lightly. ultimately it is iraq that must deflate the death cult, but we do leave the iraqows their own. >> at this hour iraqi troops are clawing away at isis-held territory less than 200 kilometers north of baghdad. as barbara starr respects, they're getting support from across the region. >> reporter: the iraqi prime minister says the fight to take back tikrit is back often the battle is a crucial test of the willingness of iraqi troops to fight after months of u.s. training. easier to reign in tikrit than trying to recapture the bigger prize, mosul. >> the key thing in my mind is proximity to baghdad. it's closer to baghdad. mosul is another 200 kilometers another many miles to the north from tikrit. >> reporter: the iraqi forces attacking from several directions in the effort to retake tikrit, engaging with isis north of the city at al alam and south at aldor. isis has its own versions of the event, claiming to show it is fighting back against the 30,000-man force iraq says it is fielding here. u.s. official are privately doubtful the iraqi numbers are that high. the u.s. is saying little about the operation, viewing it as a gauge of iraq's sectarian divide. tikrit is a sunni town. the troops are shia led. even as u.s. tensions with iran grow they van in the thick of the tikrit fight. the iranian news agency reporting that the commander of the elite iranian brig aid is in welcome overseeing the operation. iran is also providing iraq and its shia militias with weapons and ammunition. another sign no one can predict isis' next move. nearly two dozen christian hostages released by the group, nobody knows why. >> we should not let up on isis because we saw this activity that seems to be a gesture of good faith. there is no good faith in isis. doesn't exist. we should continue to pound them as hard and as viciously as we can. now members of a canadian church are worry about their pastor who hasn't come back for a humanitarian trip to north korea. the reverend entered north korea from china the end of january. he was supposed to return to canada february th. his toronto-based church says he's made more than 100 trips to north korea and speaks fluent korean. the church says the canadian government is trying to help find the reverend. another big story we're following this hour. you're looking at live pictures coming in to us from moscow as mourners pay their final respects to russian opposition activist boris nemtsov. we're told the u.s. ambassador is there, the former prime minister as well as the mother daughter and niece of mr. nemtsov. relatives and dignitaries will be filing through throughout the day. we'll get you live to the memorial service after the break. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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supporter including the administration say a deal would restrict iran's path to a nuclear bomb and extend the time it will need to embark on a weapon program. the so-called breakout period to a year. all while allowing the civilian nuclear program under international monitoring, much like the interim agreement signed in november 2013. opponents including prime minister netanyahu and some u.s. lawmakers say the only way to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon is to prevent it altogether especially in light of the past cheating. just today the iaea said iran has not provided information on past force to research weaponization. >> we have asked questions, and the questions are clear so they can answer. >> reporter: iran says it will never give up its nuclear program entirely meaning that if no deal is reached, military action and perhaps war could follow. >> reporter: even as the gaps narrow, another key disagreement was exposed. if there is agreement, the west wants sanctions lifted gradually to retain leverage. iran. the sanctions lifted all together right away. our negotiating partners particularly the western countries and particularly the united states must once and for all come to the political understanding that sanctions and agreement don't go together. if they want an agreement, sanctions must go. with our own fareed zakaria joining us from new york and host of "fareed zakaria gps," first what do you think of the issue of sanctions as far as what's in this deal? is iran likely to get its wish for all sanctions to be lifted at once? >> no. there's almost no prospect that that will happen. remember the sanctions are essentially the american sanctions are ten ax of congress as i understand which will mean there would have to be ten acts repealing or one omnibus repeal. there's almost no prospect that that would happen from a republican congress at this point. so that's not going to happen. the president can unilaterally waive some of those sanctions, weaken others, and then of course there are the international sanctions. the sanctions put on by the u.n. so iran could get some sanctioned relief. but the idea that it would get a repeal of all sanctions particularly the u.s. ones which are the most punitive, the ones that have hit the iranian economy the hardest is highly unlikely. >> what do you make of the possibility being reported now that prime minister netanyahu might reveal classified information about the deal just in order to make a point about how bad it is? >> i think it's wrong. i think it's frankly disgraceful if in fact he were to do that. let's give him the benefit of the doubt and not say this he's going to do it. i think this whole episode is a very bad precedent. to have the opposing party opposing the foreign policy, to oppose it in a joint session of congress is unpress denned and a bad idea going for. there's an article in the "the washington times" that made the point this imagine if the democratic congress or democratic senate had asked jacques chirac president of france, to explain why george w. bush's policies on iraq were all wrong. how will we have felt? imagine if during president reagan's two terms one of his many critics -- and he had dozens of them around the world -- had been invited by the democratic congress to speak to a joint session of congress. how will we feel? the president is the lead conductor of america's foreign policy. and for congress to play this role of allowing somebody to come and giving them this institutionalized platform to criticize american foreign policy strikes me as a bad idea and a very bad precedent. >> it does appear to put salt in the international diplomatic mix, which is tough enough. considering that you have talks underway in switzerland. each side does want to walk away with something. despite this, you could call it side show what do you think the chances are that we will see a deal in the end? >> i've always thought it was unlikely. i think that there's -- there's serious negotiations so i'd say maybe 60% to 70% against the deal. 30% this we will get a deal. because on both sides the negotiators don't have much leeway. by which i mean president obama doesn't have much leeway to make many concessions because netanyahu is breathing down his backs. the republicans in congress are breathing down his back. he has to stand very tough. so tough that it's tough -- difficult to see what concessions he can make. on the iranian side don't forget they have a similar program. rohans rohani's not a very powerful president. they're watching over him. in both cases, there are hawk who want no concessions, which means the guys negotiating down have a lot of leeway. in that circumstance imagine negotiating the opening with china where he wasn't able to deal with the issue of taiwan because that would be an uproar and imagine if there you had a situation like that in china. the -- you need a lot of negotiating room. neither side has it. >> we've got to make the point that the deal is far from being complete. fareed zakaria, thank you very much for joining us and providing some of your insight tonight from new york. >> thank you. u.s. house speaker john boehner, the man who invited mr. netanyahu, says ticket demand for the congressional speech is off the charts. there will be some notable no shows. chief among them of course president obama. the white house says he may not even watch the speech. personally i find it hard to believe. he won't be meeting with the prime minister either. also vice president joe biden, he will normally attend the senate president. you could say coincident low he is in guatemala now. and of course john kerry, america's chief diplomat will be meeting iranian officials in switzerland as he has been doing all week holding the very talks that mr. netanyahu will be lobbying against. i want to take you to the memorial service of boris nemtsov in moscow. live pictures as they're coming to us here at cnn. hundreds of people are expected to attend. our matthew chance telling us that some of the late opposition leaders' immediate family members are in the room. someone gunned down nem sophofriday while he -- nemtsov friday while he was near the kremlin. police haven't made any arrests. this has heightened a sense of fear in the country when it comes to speaking out against the government. nemtsov, a former deputy prime minister himself, was a vocal critic of vladimir putin. many say his murder was politically motivated. our senior international correspondent, matthew chance has been in the room during the memorial the past hour joins us on the phone. i'm wondering if you can update us on what you're seeing and hearing there this morning. >> reporter: well we're seeing a constant stream of people coming across carrying bouquets of flowers, tributes to boris nemtsov and laying the tribute at his open casket. also speeches have begun. a couple of prominent people said a few words including the u.s. ambassador saying that he will long be remembered boris nemtsov, as a great russian patriot. so it's the former prime minister of russia addressing the mourners, as well, saying that name of an enemy for many -- that boris nemtsov was an enemy for many because he would not come forward. and the tributes are continuing. i just noticed that john major, the former british prime minister is here also. representing obviously the british government. there were officials are all over europe united states, and elsewhere who have come history today pay their respects to this opposition figure in russia. >> matthew chance speaking to us from inside the memorial service for boris nemtsov. relatives, dignitaries look at his open casket while laying their own memorials, flowers and respects. poem continue to connect with matthew chance and cover the service as it unfolds in moscow over the next five hours. do stay tuned to cnn for that. after days of questioning, boris nemtsov's model girlfriend flew back home. we'll talk to her mother whos she's concerned for her daughter's safety and her emotional well being. stay with us. photos are great for capturing your world. and now they can transform it. with the new angie's list app, you can get projects done in a snap. take a photo of your project or just tell us what you need done and angie's list will find a top rated provider to do the job. the angie's list app is the simple, new way to get work done on your schedule. the app makes it easy, the power of angie's list makes it work. call, click or download the app for free today. the traffic jam. scourge of 20th century city life. raiser of blood pressure. disrupter of supply chains. stealer of bedtime stories. polluter. frustrater. time thief. 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"i turned around and saw a car, a light colored car. i didn't see the license president clinton or the brand," she told russia's tv. her mother in kiev says anna called moments after nemtsov was shot. "she was crying and saying boris had been killed and is lying next to me. she was in such shock, she couldn't say anything else." nemtsov and doraskaya had been dining together that night. then the fateful stroll for home. "anna suggested getting a taxi but boris didn't want to. he wanted to walk across the bridge. when they were walking, she was holding his hand and heard a clapping noise. boris fell on the ground." nemtsov was more than 30 years older than anna protective her mother says of a young model making her name in moscow. she was going out with a man who was an outspoken critic of the kremlindom that concern her? was she scared for her own safety? were you scared for her safety? >> "she asked him not to be so open so straightforward. it it was impossible to change him. he was a strong man who did what he considered of the right thing to do. she's younger and not involved in politics in any way. she loved him." diana magay, cnn, kiev. and again you're seeing the memorial service for boris nemtsov as it continues there in moscow. stay with cnn for coverage of this throughout the morning. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help with the hassle by guiding you through the whole process step by step. and they'll even call your old provider. it's easy. even she could do it. whatever, janet. for all the confidence you need td ameritrade. you got this. 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it how successful this trip was with shoring up business interests. but considering that his -- you know prince william's father had a bit more of a frosty relationship with the country this time, it seems as though thing may have warmed. do you get the sense that without any major gaffes to speak of so far this trip of a success? >> reporter: certainly if you look at the commentary not just in the western media but the chinese modia, it seems positive somebody. you're referring to a couple of really unfortunate incidents in the past with the royal family. prince charles once described the chinese officials that he met appalling wax works and prince william talked about slitty eyed people. it was awkward. -- pral talkprincipals talked about slitty eyed people. it was awkward. but you see prince william having opportunities certainly means that the chinese authorities are open to working with him. it is a very long-term relationship. and i know that prince william's office sees this as a first step in a long-term relationship. and that would have been transmitted back to the chinese authorities. and it seems so far to be a great success. just this meeting itself. >> yeah. if he can get out unscathed without any unexpected gaffes it should be a good trip. max foster live in london with a bit of details on prince william's asian tour being wrapped up. now, severe floods are threatening nearly a million people in northern spain as the area nears record levels. pedram javaheri with more. very serious situation. >> reporter: the snow is melting across the pyrenees. the water is melting down. and it has the largest volume of water for spain as far as the river is concerned. and about a million people live along the river in one of the biggest cities in spain. and we'll show some of the images that we have of the flooding. this river has been known to have flooding concerns. the images show the tremendous flooding. some 800 hectors, 25,000 acres of farmland damaged boy the waters out there. you look at the satellite depiction, the color depiction from january, want to show you the river as we touched on. carrying the largest volume of water across spain. the perspective january into march, you see the river balloon. as we go in for a closer perspective, hard to pick it out in january and in march expanding quite a bit. we've had drainage pumps put in place along the see it alleviate the problem. the concerns remain quite high as the forecast continues to bring snow showers across northeastern areas of spain. as that's the case as the temperatures warm heading into the middle portion of march. melting will cause more of an issue when it comes to the volume of water picking up in intensity. speaking of water, look across southern california. strong and isolated thunderstorms on the southern california coastline from malibu toward long beach. get up above 4,000 feet across the ventura mountain -- ventura county mountains, los angeles county. you can begin to pick up one to four inches of snowfall. in fact closer perspective across the greater los angeles basin. look at the burn areas taking on quite a bit of rainfall this hour. we had not only strong thunderstorms but funnel clouds reported into the early afternoon hours across the region with wintry weather. more than 120 million people dealing with wintry weather. more snow rain sleets in the forecast. want to leave you with the video, what occurred across huntington beach in southern california. >> hey now! >> look at them. people taking on unusual hail that came down an inch accumulate on the beach. people making hail balls and even a hail man as you'll see. what do you think of that in boston? >> yeah boston -- it's that california surfer dude mentality. just enjoy it. >> absolutely. >> no matter what it is. >> hang ten. >> hail on the beach. and you surf at all? >> i have not, no. >> i failed many times. thanks. so you next hour. that's it for this edition of "cnn newsroom." zain asher joins me after this break for more of the biggest stories. stay with us. if you haven't heard about the latest sale at hotels.com, then you haven't seen this commercial. book now and save during the spring break sale at hotels.com. as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu gets ready for his controversial capitol hill visit, we'll look at why today's speech is coming upper such heavy fire. happening right now, mourners paying respects to a slain kremlin critic. and you'll hear from the man who roared this video of a deadly police shooting in l.a. hello and a warm welcome to our viewers wherever you you may be watching. i'm zain asher. >> i'm errol barnett. this is "cnn newsroom."

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power couple. north korea's kim jong-un is invited to visit vladimir putin's russia. is it the start of a dangerous threat to the u.s. and world peace? and is this excessive force? pictures of a college student covered in blood, angry allegations he was roughed up by police. tonight we have new details about the investigation and the outrage. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." breaking new, a brazen new claim from izsis, a statement posted online saying the terror group was behind the attack that killed 23 people in tunisia's capital city. the statement singles out two suicide gunmen calling them knights. ominously, it warns the attack is just the start. we are also following breaking news in mississippi. police have now found the body of an african-american man hanging from a tree. the man has been missing for days and we are awaiting word on whether it's a suicide or murder. we will be discussing u.s. race relations with the head of the national urban league and president of the naacp. the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, republican congressman ed royce is here in "the situation room." our correspondents and experts, they have been working their sources. they are all standing by to bring us the latest on all of this evening's breaking stories. let's begin with the isis claim it's behind that museum attack. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr has the latest. >> reporter: wolf an audio claim from isis that they were indeed behind the attack against the museum in tunis yesterday, not totally verified yet. but the u.s. is saying that right now, it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the claim, that according to a u.s. official i spoke to. meanwhile, the tunisian government cracking down. they have now made nine arrests, they say, four of them directly linked to the attacks. the tunisian prime minister naming two people that were involved in this. not clear if they are in fact the two dead gunmen. tunis really trying to make an effort to show the world it is on top of this and it is trying to get to the perpetrators of this attack. nonetheless, as you can well imagine, a lot of concern about who exactly was behind this and what may come next. >> barbara, stand by. we are getting breaking news coming in from the white house. we are told president obama has finally spoken to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu congratulating him on his party's election victory. it comes amid u.s. irritation over the israeli leader's flip-flop on the latest issue, whether or not he supports the creation of a palestinian state, whether he would work towards that so-called two-state solution. monday the day before the election he said he no longer thought there could be a palestinian state on his watch. today, though a different message coming from the prime minister of israel. let's go to our senior white house correspondent jim acosta. first the details on the breaking news we are following, that phone conversation between the president and the prime minister. what have you learned? >> reporter: i wish i had details about that phone call between president obama and prime minister netanyahu. all we know from what we are hearing at the white house is that that call indeed did happen. the white house was forecasting that we might get that earlier today and in fact the two leaders have now spoken. we will find out within the next couple hours, i would think, perhaps within this hour exactly how that phone call went down. but simply put, we do know that he congratulated netanyahu on his victory, but that's the extent of it at this point. simply put, the white house is not buying what israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is selling today. administration officials are much more focused on netanyahu's remarks in the final moments of his re-election campaign when he rejected palestinian statehood. the white house sees that comment as a key reversal that could damage prospects for middle east peace. top aides to the president are also outraged over netanyahu's remarks that arab voters were heading to the polls in droves, remarks that the white house blasted as racially tinged and un-democratic, a cynical election day tactic aimed at marginalizing arab israeli voters. netanyahu tried to walk all of that back in an interview, flip-flopping again on the palestinian issue, saying he now supports a two-state solution. but earnest said earlier that is not enough. >> words matter. that is certainly true in this instance and i know very well that the israeli prime minister is aware of that and he was talking about something that even he would acknowledge is a very important issue, an issue that has serious consequences for the country that he leads. >> reporter: now, what's the white house going to do about all of this. officials here are suggesting they may allow votes at the united nations in favor of a palestinian state. as nouyou know that is a measure the u.s. has blocked before. the other question what does the president have to say about all this the president declined to weigh in during his earlier public appearances, but of course that phone call did happen. we just don't know exactly what was said during the conversation. but oh, to be a fly on the wall for that phone call. >> i know you are working your sources at the white house. we are working sources in jerusalem as well to see if we can get some information from the prime minister on how that phone conversation between the president and the prime minister actually went. we will get back to you. jim acosta at the white house. there is also another story that's breaking right now. russia confirming it has invited the north korean leader kim jong-un to visit moscow in early may and says north korea has accepted the invitation. our senior international correspondent matthew chance is joining us live from moscow right now. more on the prospects of two of the world's most unpredictable leaders, shall we say, getting together. what do we know about this? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. vladimir putin could be standing shoulder to shoulder with kim jong-un at the upcoming victory day celebrations that take place in the russian capital. if it happens it will be the first time the north korean leader has made an official visit outside of his own country. of course it comes at a time when moscow and pyongyang both under western sanctions, are looking to deepen their ties. facing a backlash from the west, russia is looking east. vladimir putin inviting kim jong-un to moscow to attend upcoming world war ii anniversary celebrations. the russian official says north korea's supreme leader is expected to attend but so far, no formal confirmation from pyongyang. >> you have seen the number of meetings he's had with western leaders in europe decline, and so the russians have talked about this asian alternative. this is including outreach to china but other countries in asia to try to portray mr. putin as not isolated which in fact is the case. >> reporter: the kremlin says 68 world leaders were invited to the victory day celebrations on may 9th but some leaders, including president obama, have declined. relations with the west are strained following russia's and nextation of crimea from yu krab ukraine. recently russia and north korea have been fostering warmer relations, even declaring 2015 their year of friendship. if kim attends it would be his first official trip outside north korea since inheriting the leadership in late 2011. >> if he's able to go to meet putin in moscow or elsewhere in russia this would appear to be a sign that he has completely consolidated control and is confident enough to leave the nest and go do statesmanlike things around the world. >> reporter: putin continues to flex russia's military muscles. defense officials saying nearly 80,000 troops have been placed on full combat alert. on wednesday, nato jets intercepted a number of russian military aircraft as they neared latvian air space, further rattling nerves among russia's neighbors. the blossoming relationship between moscow and north korea is another source of concern, potentially complicating u.s. efforts to isolate north korea over its nuclear weapons program. back to you. >> matthew chance, good report. thanks very much. let's dig deeper. the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, republican congressman ed royce of california, is joining me here in "the situation room." mr. chairman thanks very much for joining us. the fact that kim jong-un of north korea is now apparently going to be going to moscow in early may for these celebrations is that good or bad? >> it is bad, and we recently were in negotiations with representatives of the government of china that shared with us and some of their think tanks also shared with us the fact that even china has been very concerned about the direction kim jong-un has taken in terms of this acceleration of his nuclear weapons program. they put pressure on north korea and yet here the russians come in with a lifeline to kim jong-un at a time when even the chinese are trying to get more responsible behavior out of kim jong-un. >> you have a good idea what putin, vladimir putin, is up to right now? because over the past year since his annexation of crimea you see war games going on latvia is a member of nato and if one nato ally is attacked all nato allies are attacked. >> the irresponsibility of the embrace of kim jong-un at a time when as you remember kim jong-un killed his uncle who was close to china, given this dictatorial rule and the arbitrary nature of it it is making putin look just as arbitrary to embrace a dictator like this. i think all of this along with as you say, these very aggressive moves against our nato allies by doing these overflights just send the message that he's not particularly in a mood to recognize that the sanctions that are on him that are slowly imploding the economy in russia need to be addressed with a change of behavior. >> as you know he has now basically confirmed, admitted that he ordered the takeover of crimea from ukraine to annex it make it part of russia but is that territory, all the territory he wants? are you fearful he's going to try to grab some more? >> if you recall what he said at the celebration ceremony it was that as a russian, he viewed the ukrainians as russians. you can imagine how that's going down in kiev right now. they do not view themselves as i shared with you, i was in eastern ukraine and i talked with a lot of the russian speaking ukrainians and all across russia you know, there is this attitude now as people begin to follow the dictator and listen to putin, that he's very menacing for the people of ukraine. >> i want you to stand by. we are getting more information on the phone call that president obama just placed to the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, getting some details just coming in. stand by. much more with the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee after this. 40% of the streetlights in detroit, at one point, did not work. you had some blocks and you had major thoroughfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. those things had to change. we wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. you can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams, it doesn't happen. at the time that the bankruptcy filing was done, the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. citi had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. it's a brighter day in detroit. people can see better when they're out doing their tasks, young people are moving back in town the kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. and folks are making investments and the community is moving forward. 40% of the lights were out, but they're not out for long.they're coming back. he spilled a little soda on his shirt, but that wasn't the big deal... this story had 30 minutes left. the like really big deal was that he was with jessica. until kim realized that stouffer's mac and cheese is made with real aged cheddar. so, what about jessica? 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because the administration the obama administration is very angry. they are saying they have to reassess their options with israel because of this kind of statement by the prime minister. >> what the prime minister said today as i recall the statement was that he supported -- he did not support a one-state solution. he did support a two-state solution. the timing wasn't right at the moment but it put him back on the same page i would say, as those of us that support -- >> it sounds like he flip-flopped. 48 hours or 72 hours ago he was saying it was not going to happen. now he's saying in his words, i want a sustainable peaceful two-state solution. >> but i think there's a certain danger here in terms of this whole election overseas in a democratic state. i have had a number of delegations i have led to israel met multiple times with hertzog, with netanyahu -- >> the opposition leader. >> exactly. and we have always been very careful on the foreign affairs committee in a democratic state not to support one candidate over another in an election. in this case it was made very very clear who should win and who should lose. i would just make the observation that in the middle of that you can end up with unintended consequences. >> there have always been american political consultants, i covered this story for a long time, who have gone over to israel and gotten involved in elections. they are hired political guns, if you will. a lot of the democrats, top political centralstrategists go over and work for the labor party. some work for the likud. that's happened for the past 20 years as far as i can remember. >> but in the past our government has tried to distance itself from the machinations -- >> pardon me me for interrupting but you're saying the obama administration tried to interfere -- >> because of the level of intensity of the feelings between the president of the united states and prime minister of israel it seems as though this became an election issue. so this is why elliott engel and i, as we talk about these issues together in a bipartisan way, we attempt when approaching other democratic states when we are involved as election observers or involved in trips over there before an election as we took we try to avoid speaking on issues that are going to inflame passions. we are in a situation right now where those passions are still high. >> because the accusation was that the prime minister in effect only two weeks before the election came here at the invitation of the house speaker john boehner, was effectively siding with the republican leadership at a time when u.s./israeli relationship has always been built on bipartisan cooperation, bipartisan support for israel. he seemed to be aligning himself with the republicans. >> it seemed as though it was a counter effort against what was coming out of the white house. so what i'm saying is we should all step back from this and maybe, maybe look again at our principle of not getting involved and maybe not having our lieutenants directly involved in these campaigns because there are unintended consequences and now we are trying to sort this out. the sooner we get back on track to our objectives in the region and off of the politics of it the better. >> let me ask you a quick question about what's going on in tunisia right now. is it confirmed, we know isis has issued this audio tape saying they were responsible for this massacre at this museum killing 23 people in tunisia, in tunis, injuring another 30 many of them remain critically -- in critical care in hospitals right now. do we know for sure this was isis or was it al qaeda in the maghreb, some other al qaeda spin-off if you will? >> besides the other admission, the reason why i think it is isis is because of the level of recruitment, 3,000 fighters from isis out of tunis to go fight alongside isis. so when you have the largest recruitment effort in any region in the world coming out of tunisia, you can readily see how easy it would be for isis to recruit and train fighters and send them back. this speaks to the problem that tunisia is going to have in the future but also saudi arabia 2500 fighters out of saudi arabia may face as a consequence of these recruits not just being further indoctrinated but trained. >> serious situation. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. coming up a very different story we are following right now. there is breaking news out of mississippi. shocking news. police have discovered the body of an african-american man hanging from a tree. we'll have the latest on this investigation. also there is outrage after the bloody arrest of a university of virginia honor student. is it a case of excessive force by police? 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tourists come into tunis, a relatively quiet place unlike next door in libya which has become for all practical purposes a failed state run by a bunch of terrorists. how do you prevent these types of massacres that have occurred? >> bottom line it has to be a combined intelligence operation, both intel and operations have got to be talking together all the time. one thing you have to remember tunisia has had probably the largest elements of the population that have gone to syria to fight with isis over the last year year and a half. that to me from a government official, i would be very concerned about that. but it is an ongoing process as we have seen throughout the months over the last year and a half with isis. what you have to do it's difficult but again, because of their past i would think they would have their elements in those key positions locked down a lot better than they did. >> they clearly didn't. should we be bracing for more of this in tunisia right now? i hope it doesn't happen but could that state wind up like libya, total disaster? >> i don't think so. i think the real interesting point here that you are touching on is when states aren't in chaos, we have seen al qaeda and isis take advantage of chaos in syria, yemen, libya, afghanistan. when they are not in chaos, very smooth transition in tunisia after the 2011 revolution can governments and security services in those stable environments keep a lid on this. i think they can. but we might see episodic incidents because it's impossible to contain everything. >> is there any collaboration going on now, isis claiming responsibility there's another group called ansar al sharia claiming responsibility, al qaeda in the islamic maghreb, are they all working together, maybe? >> i kind of doubt it. al qaeda in the islamic maghreb and isis wouldn't cooperate, i don't think. it's possible. ansar al sharia are a local group, might collaborate with either one of those. isis is the biggest kid on the block right now. we have seen the attack in libya last month that killed ten foreigners at an upscale hotel, including an american. we have seen an attack in the sinai last month, in egypt, where 26 people were killed by an isis affiliate. this was even a separate issue, which was police and military officials. isis is really -- i find it very hard to believe that al qaeda and isis will cooperate. >> colonel, you are there in the region. is there collaboration going on between these various terror groups all of whom by the way, consist largely of sunni arabs? >> yeah right now what we are seeing here is like peter said isis is the big dog on the block. they have pushed some of their senior leaders out to some of these failed states like we have seen recently in libya with the attacks there, but i don't think the more power positions are going to work together. you saw what happened last week with boko haram. one thing i will tell you, we noticed here isis is getting whacked pretty hard right now north of baghdad into tikrit. they will have a major blow defeat here when this is all finished up. i think what isis might look at understanding is that their ability to fight an army is not going to be very good for them and they might have to get back to more of those traditional terrorist roles we have seen in the past with some of these bombings these lightning fast hits and the suicide attempts because they are not going to be able to fight these armies one-on-one as they get prepared more. >> we will have more on this story coming up. stand by, guys. there's a disturbing report coming out of mississippi right now. the body of an african-american man has been found hanging from a tree. the fbi we are now told is on the scene. we are getting details. stand by for that. a 20-year-old african-american honor student bloody and pinned down by officers. new details on the investigation into allegations of excessive force. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. it's happening. today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about long-acting levemir® an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. and levemir® helps lower your a1c. levemir® comes in flextouch® the only prefilled insulin pen with no push-button extension. levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. that's 50% longer than lantus® which lasts 28 days. today i'm asking about levemir® flextouch®. levemir® is a long-acting insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults and children with diabetes and is not recommended to treat diabetic ketoacidosis. do not use levemir® if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating, shakiness, confusion and headache. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your doctor about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions. tell your doctor about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. check your blood sugar levels. your insulin dose should not be changed without asking your doctor. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing swelling of your face, tongue or throat sweating, extreme drowsiness dizziness, or confusion. today's the day to ask your doctor about levemir® flextouch®. covered by nearly all health insurance and medicare plans. we have breaking news out of mississippi where the body of an african-american man has been found hanging in a tree. the fbi is now on the scene. we are told they are investigating as well as others from the justice department. our justice reporter evan perez is here in "the situation room." pretty shocking. what are we learning? >> yes, wolf. this is going down in southern mississippi, about an hour from jackson, mississippi. according to the fbi, the local authorities there called them in after they found this african-american man hanging from a tree. it's about a half mile behind the last known residence that he had. it's in some very deep woods and the local authorities have been looking for him because he was reported missing on march 2nd. now, there is at this point no indication of what happened. they don't know if it's a suicide or if it was something that -- whether he was killed by someone. so that is something now that has gotten the interest of the fbi. they have got their civil rights inspectors there, their investigators there, they've got the justice department civil rights division involved and the attorney's office is investigating. obviously the context here is that there's not a lot known. they know it's a suspicious death but they don't know more than that. they have to do all the forensics and make sure they can check out whether he's got known enemies and all these things before they decide what to do. >> pretty unusual, so quickly representatives from the civil rights division the justice department fbi, already on the scene. what do we know about this individual? >> we know he was reported missing on march 2nd according to sources i have talked to he was somebody who had a criminal record. again, this goes into the investigation, whether or not this is somebody who perhaps had something against him and would want him dead. so that's the reason why they are doing all of this investigative work. again, suicide has not been ruled out but it is something they are looking into. >> evan we will stay on top of this story. pretty disturbing development. thanks very much. police are also investigating the bloody arrest of an african-american honor student at the university of virginia after this photo surfaced 20-year-old martice johnson is seen pinned down to the ground by alcohol control agents. his head cut open and bleeding. the incident has sparked protests on the campus of the university of virginia and calls for an investigation by the virginia governor. cnn's brian todd is joining us from charlottesville with more. what do we know, brian? >> reporter: wolf tonight the virginia state police are confirming to cnn they are conducting a criminal investigation into the conduct of the officers involved in the arrest of 20-year-old martice johnson. those officers from the virginia department of alcoholic beverage control. a criminal investigation now going on into their conduct. this as we are learning more and more about this investigation. here we can show you martice johnson's blood still on the sidewalk almost 48 hours after that incident occurred early wednesday morning. this is an incident the treatment of which -- martice johnson's treatment is being called brutal and animalistic by the black student alliance of the university. a disturbing scene on the sidewalk just a few feet from the university of virginia campus. martice johnson, a 20-year-old uva student, is pinned to the ground by agents for the virginia department of alcoholic beverage control. an injury to his head requiring ten stitches. >> how did this happen you [ bleep ]? >> reporter: what's your opinion of the way police treated him? >> i mean i didn't necessarily see any violence but then again, i didn't see any of them trying to help him. >> reporter: uva student jennifer goldman witnessed part of the confrontation early wednesday when johnson was already on the ground. she recognized him from an orientation session he had led this year. >> he introduced himself to the entire group and was very outgoing and nice and bright and cheerful. >> reporter: virginia's governor ordered an investigation into whether excessive force was used. concerned over these images of johnson's head bloodied. for young african-americans who have protested on the streets of charlottesville, this reopens the wounds of ferguson. madison. staten island. >> we are angry. we want answers. we want people to be punished for the mistreatment that they had on the young man, martice, and we just need -- we need people to be held accountable. >> reporter: uva's black student alliance calls johnson's treatment brutal and animalistic. johnson addressed the rally in a measured tone. >> we are all part of one community. we deserve to respect each other, especially in times like this. >> reporter: even at wednesday night's protest, police got one woman in a headlock. the officers who arrested johnson are from a state agency known as abc, an official of that agency would not respond to the allegations of excessive force. in charging documents, johnson's described as being intoxicated, agitated and belligerent, that he had just been turned away from a bar on st. patrick's day. it's not clear how he sustained these wounds or what happened in the moments before this scene was videotaped. as you come back to the scene, you see his blood still here, how do you feel? >> now seeing it all in the daylight, it's definitely sr surreal. i can't believe i saw it first-hand. >> reporter: martice johnson's lawyer says johnson is quote, absolutely devastated by what happened. he points out that johnson prior to this incident had no criminal record and that he holds positions of leadership at the university of virginia. we should hear from mr. johnson's attorney in a few minutes. wolf? >> brian todd thanks very much. we will stand by to hear what he has to say. let's get some more now with the presidents of two of america's leading civil rights organizations. marc murial is president of the national urban league cornell brooks head of the naacp. thank you for joining us. you are a father. you have a son about to go to college next year. you see something like this what goes through your mind? >> it's absolutely horrific to see a young man full of promise, majoring in italian and media studies who is a campus leader on the ground with his face bloodied over what appears to be some kind of minor offense. but we don't know that. but what we do know is we have a young person on the ground with a face smashed in. it's absolutely terrible. >> your reaction? >> this is the university of virginia. this is a young man who represents the best. high-performing student, a leader on campus who finds himself down on the ground with blood on his face at the hands of these law enforcement officers. i was happy to see him speak and speak forcefully about the need to unify people and the fact we are all part of one community. as you know the governor has called for an immediate investigation and we certainly look forward to the results. this is yet another disturbing incident of it seems to be needless and unnecessary law enforcement violence against a young black man. >> how do we fix these kinds of things? i know the naacp has been working for a long time to get everybody more sensitive, aware of what's going on. what do we need to do? >> i think one of the things we need to make clear is that policing that is in fact community sensitive is effective policing. in other words, when you talk to criminologists and leading law enforcement officials, what they say is building relationships of trust. it is also important that you respond to interactions with the community in a proportionate way. you don't use a sledge hammer when a tap hammer will do. we saw that in the doj report. we see this in instances all across the country where police officers have to exercise judgment. we don't know all the facts here but we have seen too many instances where police officers have engaged in a great deal of aggression that wasn't warranted. >> the national urban league you just released your 2015 state of black america. obviously, if you go through it there's a lot of work that needs to be done. let's just talk briefly about this image we now have from mississippi of an african-american man hanging from a tree obviously his body hanging from a tree. the fbi is now down there investigating, representatives from the civil rights division at the justice department are down in mississippi. we don't know if it's suicide. we don't know what happened. but it's so disturbing -- >> his death is tragic period. we need to find out what the facts are. as i sit here i'm hopeful that it isn't what we think and anticipate. this is the symbol of one of the most awful forms of if you will terror and murder the use of the noose that was propagated in large numbers in the early part of the 20th century. but the report that we released the state of black america report one thing i would point out is that there's the justice crisis that we certainly have talked about, but the recovery which i applaud, the job creation that's taking place in this country, but it's leaving lots of americans behind. we found that in 33 of the top 70 cities in america, the black unemployment rate exceeded 15% and -- >> it's 5.5% nationwide. what is it nationwide for african-americans? >> it's in the ten range. it's double that. but in urban communities, 33 of these urban communities, it's triple that. it's in the 15% plus range and seven cities have unemployment rates in the black community over 20%. >> has it been getting better over these past say six years? >> the facts are these. certainly over the course of a generation unemployment rate among african-americans has always been double that of their white counterparts. while unemployment has gotten better the unemployment differential, racial differential has not. >> it stays like that. i recommend this state of black america. >> we have recommendations for solutions, too. >> if you guys can stand by we are expecting a news conference by the way, coming up. both from charlottesville on the university of virginia campus on what happened there. also mississippi. we will get some information on what happened there. body of an african-american man discovered hanging from a tree. you never want to see that because you're right, it brings up that awful, awful memory. coming up we are following other news. u.s. secret service is pushing back against reports its agents drunkenly crashed into a white house barricade. what actually happened that night? 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we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room"." we're following major and foft moving stories including isis saying it is responsible for the terror attack on a museum. president obama issuing a warning to the israeli prime minister a little while ago on the phone telling the leader u.s. relations with his country need to be reassessed after what the prime minister has said. plus two racially charged stories. the bloody arrest of an african-american student near the university of virginia. we're standing by for a news conference on that. that's coming up momentarily. we're awaiting an update on the grim discovery of the body of a black man found hanging from a tree in mississippi. we're covering that and much more this hour with our correspondents and guests. let's begin with our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. she has more on the museum massacre attack. what are you picking up? >> reporter: tonight, a u.s. official tells me they cannot absolutely verify the isis claim that it was behind the attack but make no mistake, the u.s. wants to figure out if this is the opening round of isis expanding its campaign. the blood is still there. tunisian security forces on high alert looking for at least three suspects in the attack that has now killed 23 people and injured three dozen. isis claiming responsibility for the attack. warning, this is just the start in an unverified audio message. >> this is the latest example of extremist terror. we have to fight it with everything we have. >> reporter: growing u.s. worries about the spread of isis and where it could lead. >> a terrorism attack like this on a soft target in tunisia promises there will be more terrorism in europe and eventually will wash up on the shores of the united states. >> reporter: for now, the u.s. doesn't doubt the isis claim of responsibility. officials caution al qaeda affiliates in north africa also are very active in tunisia. these attackers perhaps inspired by isis rather than directly ordered to attack. violent as it was, u.s. officials say the tactics appearedappear ed haphazard, not a kidnapping plot. authorities announced nine people had been arrested four directly linked to the attacks. the prime minister identified two suspects by name, one had been known to security services. the prime minister did not say if they were the gunmen that had been killed. a tour guide tells of the terror. >> translator: i thought a roof collapsed. we hid from the shooting. >> reporter: an inmeeenemy difficult to track down. >> what makes this so difficult to kill is because it is home grown self-recruited and there's no center there's no return address that we can destroy it. >> reporter: this attack was so violent at the museum wolf so frightening to the people there that we now have learned a spanish couple hid in the museum overnight thinking that the terrorists were still inside. wolf? >> thanks very much. other breaking news we're following. we have just learned president obama spoke by phone just a little while ago with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to congratulate him on his election victory. we are learning the president game the prime minister a blunt warning. jim acosta is working the story for us. what do we know about this phone call, jim? >> reporter: the white house said this was a call to congratulate the prime minister on his victory. a top official confirms the president also told netanyahu that the administration will need to reassess its options after the prime minister's comments on a towo-state solution with the palestinians. this sounds like a call with consequences. >> thank you. >> reporter: meeting with prince charles and his wife president obama refused to comment on israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu who has become something of a royal pain to the white house. administration officials say they are furious over netanyahu's remarks in the final moments his re-election campaign. pointing to the prime minister's rejection of a palestinian state in the interview as a key reverseal that would damage prospects for middle east peace. asked whether a palestinian state would not be formed if he remained prime minister netanyahu said indeed. >> is the president disappointed in prime minister netanyahu's comments? >> i would acknowledge that the president is aware of the comments and noticed them. i don't think i would characterize his reaction. but i think that there are obvious policy implications. >> reporter: in a post election interview, netanyahu completely flip-flopped saying he wants a peaceful two-state solution with palestinians. the white house is also outraged over netanyahu's comment that arab voters were heading to the polls in droves. >> that cynical election day tactic was a pretty transparent effort to marginalize arab israeli citizens. >> reporter: netanyahu insists they will have a right to vote but they are not buying that at the white house where officials are threatening to allow votes in favor of a palestinian state a meshasure the u.s. blocked before. republicans are saying get over it. >> what about the administration sort of lukewarm reaction? >> lukewarm? >> the obama administration and benjamin netanyahu need to wake up understand the realities of what they can and cannot achieve and try to restore some adult supervision. >> reporter: now, as for the phone call a white house official said the president discussed netanyahu's comment about arab israelis. it matters what he said before the election than how he is cleaning it up now. >> now he wants to reassess u.s. relations, i assume with israel in the aftermath of the statements. thanks jim acosta. democratic congress womwoman of high hawaii is here. thanks for coming in. how worried are you? >> it's concerning to see this immediate reversal or flip-flop as they are calling it by prime minister netanyahu because as we look forward to a two-state solution a peaceful solution in the middle east it's going to be hard to take him seriously and know whether or not he really has the will to be able to conduct these negotiations in a way that is in good faith, that will have that desired outcome. >> on the eve of the elections, he told one interviewer that there would be no palestinian state on his watch. and then today, he said he does want a sustainable two-state solution. that sounds like a complete flip-flop. >> and the words he was using, the statement that he made seemed to be very strong and very clear the night before the election and the opposite comment now after having won the election. again, i think that we have to really look at this and understand that israel obviously working with the palestinian authority is going to have to be able to operate and negotiate in good faith. >> how do you fix that? what does he need to do the prime minister of israel to reassure members of congress like you and, of course the president of the united states and secretary of state that he can be trusted to live up to these commitments since 2009 his position was he does support the two-state solution israel living along side a new state of palestine? >> it's going to be more than words. he can use words that he wants. but i think it's going to require some action on his part. i think first and foremost is to stop building settlements on the palestinian-held territory. >> have you conveyed your concerns to israeli officials in your conversations with them? >> as this has developed, not as of this point. but i know these are conversations that we will be having with them as we move forward towards this effort of peace in the middle east. >> i want you to stand by for a moment. we're getting on the phone -- the chief palestinian negotiator is joining us. i want to point out, we invited benjamin netanyahu to join us. we invited the israeli ambassador to the united states to join us. unfortunately, neither could join us now. they have invitations to join us down the road. what's your reaction to this flip-flop by the prime minister a couple days ago, three days ago he was saying there's not going to be a palestinian state on his watch, today he says he supports a two-state solution. what's your reaction? >> caller: wolf you know that as far as netanyahu is concerned -- i don't think he was ever a two-stater. i think it was one of the rare honest moments when he said he will not make a palestinian state on his watch and he will not allow it. he was saying the truth. this man since he came to office in 1996 and 2009 to now he did nothing but undermine a two-state solution. i take this very very seriously. i think his election is very very dangerous. i think those of us who believe in peace and the two-state solution israeli, palestinians americans, whoever, we must stand shoulder to shoulder in order to restore hope in the minds of palestinians and israelis. and we need to make sure to tell mr. netanyahu and others we will not allow him to succeed in destroying the hope of peace and the two-state solution by more settlements. and he needs to be held accountable. >> let me get your sense though right now -- what he says is he doesn't see this peace process getting off the ground so long as the palestinian authority, the plo, the president of the palestinian authority have this alliance with hamas in gaza which is committed, he says to the destruction of israel. no recognition of a jewish state. how do you get over that barrier? >> well he knows that we -- israel has a right. the plo and majority of the palestinian people stand tall on the two-state solution. he knows that. he is a man of finger pointing blame assignment. if mother theresa was the president of the palestinians and thomas jefferson were to be the speaker of the palestinians and they would say two-states they will be accused of connections. wolf you know this area. you know how dangerous such statements are. you know the forces of extremism when we fight isis and all the forces and they must be defeated. we cannot have such statement and such deeds and such activities because winning the battle over extremism in this region requires peace between palestinians and israelis. there is only one option for this peace between palestinians and israelis and that is a two-state solution. netanyahu made a big mistake and he must show deeds by announceing and standing tall and telling his people that we have to live side by side with the palestinians and their own sovereign state and he must immediately move to stop settlement activity. failure will bring palestinians and israelis deeper in the conflict. >> i know you are heading to washington. we will see you in "the situation room" next week. thanks very much for joining us. the chief palestinian negotiator. tulsi gabbard is with us. do you want to react? >> i think he brings up good points in representing the comments and views and feelings really of the palestinian people. it's important to understand where they are coming from as we look forward to that point where we can get back -- get this process back on track. >> i know the administration wants tory to revive that peace process. it looks gloomy right now. let's see what they can do. stand by. we have more to talk about. lots of news happening. we will take a quick break. much more after this. let's take a look at your credit. >>i know i have a 786 fico score, thanks to all the tools and help on experian.com. so how are we going to sweeten this deal? floor mats... clear coats... >>you're getting warmer... leather seats... >>and this... my wife bought me that. get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? 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>> this is unaccessible. this is a complete failure of leadership if these allegations are true. i know they are launching an investigation into these allegation allegations. as the dele taztails emerge it goes to holding them accountable, starting with the platoon leader not only for appearing to allow this to happen under his watch but driving it and being the instigator for it. this kind of activity can't be allowed to happen anywhere especially in our military where our service members are held to a high -- a very high standard. >> tomorrow marks the 12th anniversary of the start of the iraq war, the second iraq war to liberate iraq get rid of hussein. i was in kuwait with 200,000 u.s. troops getting ready to move in at the start of that war. i remember it very very vividly. they were going with gas masks. they thought there were weapons of mass destruction. you are launching the congressional post-9/11 veterans caucus. >> there are over 2.8 million veterans in the united states who served post-9/11, after the attacks occurred. we formed this caucus along with a republican from pennsylvania scott perry, who is an army helicopter pilot, to bring voice to concerns and issues that our post-9/11 veterans are facing whether it's homelessness or unemployment but also the experience that these veterans are bringing back to our communities. i think it's important -- very important for us on this anniversary of the u.s. invasion in iraq to remember what brought us there and what the very high human cost of this war has been not only trillions of dollars but thousands and thousands of american lives. to remember what brought us there, the decisions that were made especially as we look into who made those decisions and the questions that we are facing with this current islamic extremist threat. >> thanks for what you are doing. thanks to the other iraq war veterans afghan war veterans including all those who served in the united states congress, thanks for creating this caucus. >> thank you. the breaking news we're following, the body of an african-american man found hanging from a tree in mississippi. plus more on the investigation into the bloody arrest of a black university of virginia student, an honor student. did the state agents use excessive force? 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>> reporter: we just picked up crucial information filling in gaps that we needed to fill in about what happened that night that he was taken down by the virginia abc officers. we have been wanting to find out what happened in the moments before that amateur video was taken, before we saw him on the ground being pinned down by those agents. just moments ago, his attorney filled in some of the gaps giving their version of what happened in the moments before we saw him on the ground in that video, filling in the gaps about what happened about how he got those injuries. take a listen. >> he was standing on the sidewalk near a pub in charlottesville. an employee of the establishment approached him and asked him for identification. he presented a valid illinois state identification card issued in 2011. the employee then asked him for his zip code. he recited his zip code which is different from the chicago city zip code on the identification card that was printed almost four years ago. at no time throughout the encounter did he present as -- at no time throughout the enter counter did he present as has been reported by some a fake i.d. nevertheless virginia abc officers who were present on the scene questioned my client about being in possession of false identification. the conversation resulted in my client being thrown to the ground his head hitting the pavement the officers' knees presidented into his back, his face and skull bleeding and needing surgery. >> reporter: that moments ago from the attorney for mr. johnson filling in their version of the events which happened which in those moments before we saw that amateur video and the moments before we saw his head bleeding we were wanting to find out how he got the injuries. their version of how he got the injuries. we have to point out the virginia state police are conducting their own investigation into the conduct of those agents. we will hear probably when that is complete the agents' version of what happened. we will see if it matches that description, wolf. >> we heard last night from mr. johnson, the student. tell our viewers what he said. >> reporter: that's right. he did speak at a rally last night. we hadn't heard from him. listen to what he said when people were demonstrating on the streets last night. >> i want the students to be able to share their opinions and feelings. i beg for you guys regardless of your opinion and the way you feel about suggests, to subjects we are part of one community. we deserve to respect each other. thank you. >> reporter: there have been demonstrations in the streets last night. we're waiting to see if there will be any tonight. you can certainly take away from this that this town is on edge over this incident that occurred less than 48 hours ago. >> brian, thanks very much. we will get back to you. we're standing by for a news conference on the other breaking news we're following out of mississippi. the body of an african-american man has been found hanging in a tree. the fbi is on the scene. they're investigating as well as officials from the civil rights division of the justice department. evan perez is joining us. what are you hearing from sources about this very disturbing development? >> reporter: wolf we are hearing from our sources that the authorities are believed the body they recovered is that of a man who has been missing since earlier this month. that man's name is otis byrd. he is 54 years old. the fbi is looking into this simply because it is very suspicionus suspicious. he was found hanging from a tree half a mile into some deep woods behind the last known residence that he had. this is in mississippi, the southern part of the state near the louisiana border. obviously, this is bringing back very dark reminders for this area of the country which suffered through a lot of violence during many many years. so that's something that the fbi is looking into. we should say that otis byrd has a criminal record. he was convicted in 1980 of murder. so that is also something that the fbi is looking into simply because they have to check out whether someone perhaps with a beef to settle would have reason to kill him. this is something that the fbi doesn't know yet what the cause of the death is if it might be a suicide or if it's something nefarious. that's again part of the investigation the fbi is doing along with the mississippi bureau of investigation, local authorities, the u.s. attorney's office in southern mississippi and the civil rights division here in washington of the justice department. >> evan perez, thanks for that update. i want to dig deeper on both stories we are following. joining us the president of america's two leading civil rights organization the national urban league and the naacp. joining us don lemon, tom few fuentes and john gaskin. let me start with mark. let's talk about the civil rights division. they have sent agents down there, the fbi, we're beginning to learn more about what's going on. >> we need to get all of the facts. i think that the civil rights division and the fbi acting quickly and swiftly, the media throwing a spotlight on this because the method used here reminds us of one of the most heinous periods in american life. certainly, i wouldn't want and don't think anyone should jump to an immediate conclusion. but this is highly suspicious and certainly we hope it isn't with a we may suspect. >> your quick reaction? >> i absolutely -- the need to be careful, thoughtful clinical in our assessment and gathering of the facts is important. we also have to remember the history of mississippi and the history of this country. we have had 5,000 people of prodominantly african-american but variety of ethnicities lynched in this country. where you see a black man hanging from the end of a rope it is a moment for concern and a moment for law enfonsmentrcement to respond. for the community to do the same. >> we don't know obviously, whether he was killed whether it was suicide. that's why there's a local, state investigators on the scene as well as representatives of the federal government. don i know getting back to the other story, this young 20-year-old honor student at the university of virginia a hon ren -- a horrendous story. i think you had a chance to speak with him. did you? >> i did. i spoke with him earlier this afternoon. it was before the press conference. he said that he didn't -- couldn't talk long because he was preparing to put out a statement with his attorney. he was preparing firee inging for a press conference. he conveyed to me what the attorney said that he never -- according to him, he never presented a fake i.d. that he was not intoxicated. things escalated quickly. the police didn't believe him. but, again, i don't want to betray the confidence of our call because there were other things we spoke about. but basically, he is saying the same same story and saying he is concerned. it has been a tough time for him. he hopes his wounds heal. he is worried about school. he is worried about money. he is worried about getting a job, about his reputation after this. now he is worried about all the attention that goes along with this and his family. this young man is very concerned at this point. we have to see how the investigation plays out. it does not look good for those agents right now. the investigation has to play out, but just considering the circumstances, the kind of young man he is also saying that he was not intoxicated at the time he took a breathalyzer if that proves to be true then the reasons for his arrest may be quite nebulous. >> john gaskin you are still a college student. you can relate to what's going on over there at the university of virginia. we heard from the attorney that the 20-year-old -- promising student grew up in the south side of chicago. a single mom. majoring in italian and media studies. on the honor society. all of a sudden this happens. it's outrageous when you think about it. we hope of course he's going to be okay. what was your reaction john when you heard about this? >> i was certainly shocked when i heard about it. but certainly, i think about reality. this is a great reality for african-american men. living in this country doesn't matter if you go to an elite college or what income bracket your parents are in. the fact of the matter is discrimination and police brew tam -- brutality knows nothing. living as an african-american man, you face those challenges. my heart certainly goes out to him. the thing that i was most impressed with was the students there at the university of virginia how they mobilized cohesively last night, peacefully and did it in a dignified manner to give it the attention it needs. >> tom fuentes, the governor of virginia he wants a full investigation. the chancellor of the university the president of the university they want a full investigation. they are outraged by what happened. >> when you see somebody with that much blood on their face wolf it looks horrible. the specific aspect of the case is going to be how did he get that wound? was it when he hit the pavement? was it an accident? did the police slam him to the ground? we need to know exactly how that wound was inflicted. when you see the aftermath of that, the part where the video starts it doesn't look like officers beating him or kicking him or trying to smash his head down any further. in fact, they're trying to handcuff him. he's not cooperating. they're gingerly trying to grab his arm. >> even if somebody -- a 20-year-old kid, a college kid, let's say he has fake i.d. does he deserve to be treated like that in. >> no. the way is to comply. if the police for whatever reason whatever charge it might be -- we don't know that. if it's something ridiculously dumb that they're charging him with it's still -- the person has to comply. >> it's an issue, wolf. >> by the way, the lawyer says he didn't have fake i.d. >> abc agent was in concert with the employee of the bar who questioned this young man as to "what is your zip code" after he presented an i.d. which i presume the face matched the person. >> right. >> the instance -- that suggests to me perhaps profiling. why would this student have been challenged on do you know your zip code? >> i could -- let's say the kid has fake i.d. some other state driver's license from highawaii, he might not be familiar with the details. they want to double-check. >> look in a bar like this if the abc agents are hanging out, they have a familiarity with the type and style of fake i.d. that may go around. i think it's about not only the abc agents and how they treated him but why, in fact may this -- was this student challenged? i would like to know were other students challenged for the same violation on the same night? >> let me get don lemon to weigh in. the lawyer says this was a legitimate state i.d. >> i take them at their word. the investigation has to play out. if it continues to go on in this vein and it's true what the student is saying it does not look good for the agents. sometimes i can't remember my own zip code. this student has probably moved around or had a couple drinks -- i have to think about it. when have ii have to use my debit or credit card i forget especially if you are in a stressful situation. they were trying to figure out if it was legitimate. i remember my license now is a georgia license, i don't remember my zip code in georgia anymore. i live in new york city. if someone asked me it would not match where i live now. i don't know how legitimate that is. i agree with mark. the agents seem to be in concert with the people in the bar. they should act independently. they should take the young man aside and say, here is what you are accused of. do you have a false i.d. instead of throwing him to the ground? 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>> i can't believe the conversation that we have going on. i wonder which decade we're living in. >> what century. >> right. with these stories. you are exactly right. usa said as you said they were being investigated with hazing. according to reports, the leader of that platoon said on thursdays, you are free to use any kind of racial slur or do whatever you want and you won't face consequences as a way of team building. the person who turned them in is african-american. he said -- nothing was used against him. someone else said -- someone else who was a whistle-blower said did he have some against him. i think it's the most backwards way of building comradery. sure there should be open conversations about race. you should not be able to say racial epithets as a way of building moral. it's ridiculous. >> the u.s. army has been advanced in accepting african-americans, other minorities. >> tremendous strides. >> i'm shocked that this is -- >> i hope this is isolated. i hope this is not indicative of anything widespread. getting transparency on it and certainly we hope the department of defense and leadership of the army will immediately investigate and take appropriate disciplinary action against those, because this seems to be a problem with some command level that is not only but encouraged in some perverse behavior. >> john in another part of the country, you're seeing some other problems. the mayor of austin has come out condemning stickers that are being posted ton businesses in the state capital of texas that read quote, exclusively for white people. i don't know if you've been following this but pretty shocking what's going on over there. >> you know i have to agree with mr. morial. to be having these types of conversations about these types of issues in 2015 even when we have an african-american president, and to be discussing these types of issues it just, it's -- i have no point of reference. >> mind boggling. >> that's right, don. and it's very disappointing, because we talk so much that we live in a post-racial society, but these are reminders that we have such a great ways to go. >> stand by because we're going to be following this story. we're standing by for that news conference from mississippi as well. don, by the way, will be back with much more on all of this at 10:00 p.m. eastern for his special program, "cnn tonight," a special hour coming up looking at all of these racially charged stories as well as the phrase "hands up don't shoot," whether it was really a false narrative. stick around 10:00 eastern time, don lemon, "cnn tonight." much more news right after this. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? 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>> i think, probably. i think they all look embarrassing to me. i think if republicans oppose loretta lynch for any reason and i think it's probably because she says that the president's executive action on immigration was legal, and i think they oppose her for that. if they oppose her for that then go on the floor and say, that's why we oppose her and we're going to hold up her nomination for a reason. sticking you know, making it a bizarre procedural issue makes them all look bad, and i think this whole thing, and the name-calling that's going back and forth is beneath the dignity of the united states senate and it's an embarrassing spectacle, that should just not be occurring on the floor of the senate. >> what mccain and other republicans are so angry about is that dick durbin the number two democrat in the senate using the race card. >> it makes senate republicans look bad, but it makes the whole senate look bad. she should have been confirmed by now. now it will not happen until mid-april. so this is completely going on too long. the question is this is really going to hurt the republican party's image. it's certainly not going to help it but it's already pretty bad among diverse groups. you have senator rand paul out there trying to improve the party's brand. i've been waiting for him to step up or maybe one of these presidential candidates to step up. it makes the entire senate look bad. it's ridiculous. >> and the name-calling is what's just so silly. and the notion that by the way, she said okay i think the president has legal standing on immigration. what do they expect her to say? she's the nominee of the president of the united states. i mean this does not come as a surprise. she got the votes of three republicans on that committee. >> the judiciary. >> the judiciary committee. so for durbin to come out and talk about the back of the bus and then mccain to come out -- >> there's some blame to go around on both sides. >> have we heard from the president on this? >> we've not heard from him. that's a great point. why isn't the president speaking up more on this. we know he's not making phone calls, or at least we don't think is. but i think it makes everyone look bad. her confirmation hearing, i was there for a few of them, she actually is an independent-minded attorney general. she didn't agree with the administration on everything. so the republicans want to know the attorney general, let's bring her in. >> our new poll, gloria we asked, has the presidency been a success? bill clinton at this point in his second term 77% thought his presidency was a success. president obama, 50% think it's a success. george bush at this point in his presidency 39%. so he's right in the middle there. >> but this is actually good news for the president, because when you dig deeper into our poll over half of the people in this country believe that things are actually going well economically. they give the president credit for leading on the economy. and when people feel good about themselves they're starting to feel a little bit better and they tend to like their presidents a little bit more. >> but he may be near the top. he's -- people still do not think he's lived up to all the change they thought he would bring. >> nearly two years ago. we'll see what they can do. guys thanks very very much. you can follow us on twitter. tweet me @wolfblitzer tweet the show. be sure to join us again here tomorrow right here in "the situation room." you can watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." aaron burnett "outfront" starts right now. next breaking news. president obama tells prime minister benjamin netanyahu that america is quote, reassessing its relationship with israel. netanyahu's foreign policy adviser, dory gold is "outfront." and more breaking news a black man's body found hanging from a tree. the department of justice and the fbi are investigating tonight. and a pregnant woman answering a craigslist ad viciously stabbed, her child cut from her womb. we have the 911 call tonight. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett and we begin "outfront" tonight with breaking news. a very tense phone call between

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totally is whether or not to support these iran talks that the administration is engaged in or whether to use their legislative power to try to stop or amend them. that's what the prime minister is going to be trying to convince them of here but it is also something that the administration is trying to push congress on in a different way. that's why it's going to be fascinating. when it comes to just the optics only about 30 members of actually going to boycott the speech. i say only because a lot more are unhappy with it but we have decided it's better to go and be polite and sit and listen and not make more of a protest than that tomorrow. >> let's head to the white house now. president obama will not appear with benjamin netanyahu in any way. jim acosta i want to know do you think he'll be watching netanyahu's speech? it's on television. >> it certainly is on the president's schedule. he's due to get his national security briefing at this time. perhaps he'll be in that meeting opposed to watching the prime minister's speech. my guess is he'll get a decent wrap-up of what the prime minister has to say but keep in mind the white house hourly is trying to stress they believe that this israeli/u.s. relationship remains strong despite these disagreements with prime minister netanyahu. also keep in mind carol, i've been talking with several officials inside the administration who are privately furious with the israeli prime minister that this is happening this week. they see what he's doing is creating something of a circus and putting himself at the center of attention and contrast that with the message that samantha power was giving, the u.n. ambassador it was a positive message. here's what she had to say. >> our commitments to our partnership with israel are bedrock commitments rooted in shared fundamental values cemented through decades of bipartisan reinforcement. this partnership should never be politicized and it cannot and will not be tarnished or broken. >> you heard her say this partnership should not be politicized. she said the commitment transcends politics. that moment got her a standing ovation. she went on to say, carol, that the u.s. will not allow iran to develop a nuclear weapon period. lots of comments there that can be frozen in time and played back in the future if that's not the way things work out. power went on to say during the speech that susan rice national security adviser, who said that netanyahu's speech was potential potentially destructive to the relationship and she'll be speaking in-depth about iran. maybe good cop/bad cop. >> that's what i thought too. jim acosta thanks so much. stick around. i want to go to a foreign policy fellow at the brookings institution center for middle east policy. welcome. >> thank you. >> so when all is said and done will prime minister -- will the prime minister's visit really worsen the relationship between the united states and israel or is this just a whole bunch of bluster right at the moment? >> it's a little bit of both. it could have serious ramifications for israel in terms of its relationship with its president which already does not have a good relationship with the prime minister but also democrats at large. this is really sort of unprecedented in recent years. the degree of anger you hear from democrats here in washington about the israeli visit and democratic party traditionally was the pro-israel party until recent years. so we're seeing growing politics. he's trying to come here and make what he thinks is an historic case against a fateful agreement which he thinks is top of the agenda but he's trying to mitigate these pressures with the democrats and he's also trying to cater to the domestic politics in an election that's happening in israel. you'll notice the hour of the day he's speaking. that's not an hour. it's not prime time for the american audience. israel is seven hours ahead. this will just give time for clips to be edited for the israeli news and israel is two weeks away from an election. >> i'm going to interrupt you because this is the president of aipac. i would suspect he's introducing benjamin netanyahu. let's listen. >> throughout his distinguished career prime minister netanyahu has confronted the challenges facing the jewish state with courage and passion. he has warned the world about the threat of militant islam. fought against anti-israel campaigns at the united nations. and long recognized the danger of a nuclear capable iran. not just to israel but to the entire world. mr. prime minister today with so much at stake, america's pro-israel community including more than 16,000 people in this room welcomes you to washington. [ applause ] we are thrilled that you brought family with you from jerusalem. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the wife of israel's prime minister mr. sara netanyahu. [ applause ] we welcome you both to this conference in celebration of the shared interest and values of two great democracies. we stand here to send a clear message. we stand with the people of israel in their quest to stop iran. we stand with the people of israel in their quest for lasting peace with their neighbors. and we stand with the people of israel in their quest for a brighter future. [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming the prime minister of the state of israel mr. benjamin netanyahu. [ applause ] florida? [ applause ] new york? [ applause ] these are the easy ones. how about colorado? [ applause ] indiana? i think i got it. montana. texas? [ applause ] you're here in record numbers. you're here from coast to coast, from every part of this great land and you're here at a critical time. you're here to tell the world that reports of the demise of the israeli/u.s. relations is not only premature, they're just wrong. [ applause ] you're here to tell the world that our alliance is stronger than ever. millions like you across this great country is going to get even stronger in the coming years. thank you all of the leadership of aipac. thank you. for your tireless dedicated work to strengthen the partnership between israel and the united states. i want to thank most especially members of congress democrats and republicans, i deeply appreciate your steadfast support for israel year in, year out. you have our boundless gratitude. [ applause ] i would welcome the president of the czech republic. mr. president, israel never forgets its friends and the czech people have always been steadfast friends of israel the jewish people from the days at the inception of zionism. when i introduced the israeli army in 1967 i received a rifle that was given to us by your people in our time of need in 1948. so thank you for being here today. [ applause ] of spain. [ applause ] thank you both for your unwavering support. you are true champions of israel and you are true champions of the truth. [ applause ] your genuine friendship dan, and for the great job you're doing representing the united states and the state of israel. [ applause ] i want to recognize the two rons. i want to thank the ambassador for the exemplary job he's done at the u.n. in a very difficult forum. thank you. i want to recognize the other ron. a man who knows how to take the heat. israel's ambassador to the united states. [ applause ] washington. and finally, i want to recognize my wife, sara whose courage in the face of adversity is an inspiration to me. [ applause ] sara divides her time as a child psychologist as a loving mother and public duties as wife of the prime minister. sara i'm so proud to have you here with me today, to have you with me at my side always. [ applause ] my friends, i bring greetings to you from jerusalem, our eternal undivided capital. [ applause ] i also bring to you news that you may not have heard. i'll be speaking in congress tomorrow. [ applause ] been given. i'm not going to speak today about the content of that speech but i do want to say a few words about the purpose of that speech. first, let me clarify what is not the purpose of that speech. my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office that he holds. i have great respect for both. [ applause ] i deeply appreciate all that president obama has done for israel. security cooperation, intelligence sharing, support at the u.n. and much more some things that as prime minister of israel i can't even divulge to you because it remains in the realm of the confidences that are kept between an american president and an israeli prime minister. i'm deeply grateful for this support and so should you be. [ applause ] my speech is also not intended to inject israel into the american partisan debate. an important reason why our alliance has grown stronger decade after decade is that it has been championed by both parties and so it must remain. [ applause ] both democratic and republican presidents have worked together with friends from both sides of the aisle in congress to strengthen israel and our alliance between our two countries. working together they provided israel with generous military assistance and missile defense spending. we've seen how important that is just last summer. working together they made israel the first free trade partner of america 30 years ago and its first official strategic partner last year. they backed israel in defending itself at war and in our efforts to achieve a durable peace with our neighbors. working together has made israel stronger working together has made our alliance stronger. [ applause ] that's why the last thing that anyone who cares about israel the last thing that i would want is for israel to become a partisan issue. i regret that some people have misperceived my visit here this week as doing that. israel has always been a bipartisan issue. israel should always remain a bipartisan issue. [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of my address to congress tomorrow is to speak up about a potential deal with iran that could threaten the survival of israel. iran is the foremost state sponsor of terrorism in the world. look at that graph. look at that map that you see on the wall. it shows iran training arming dispatching terrorists on five continents. iran envelops the entire world with its tentacles of terror. this is what iran is doing now without nuclear weapons. imagine what iran would do with nuclear weapons. and this same iran vows to annihilate israel if it develops nuclear weapons it would have means to achieve that goal. we must not let that happen. [ applause ] as prime minister of israel i have a moral obligation to speak up in the face of these dangers while there's still time to avert them. for 2,000 years, my people the jewish people were stateless, defenseless, voiceless. we were utterly powerless against our enemies who swore to destroy us. we suffered relentless persecution and horrific attacks. we could never speak in our own behalf and we could not defend ourselves. well no more. [ applause ] no more. the days when the jewish people are passive in the face of threats to annihilate us those days are over. [ applause ] eing able to defend ourselves, we ally with others most importantly the united states of america, to defend our common civilization against common threats. in our part of the world, and increasingly in every part of the world, no one makes alliances with the weak. you seek out those who have strength those who have resolve, those who have determination to fight for themselves. that's how alliances are formed. so we defend ourselves in so doing create the basis of a broader alliance and today we are no longer silent. today we have a voice. [ applause ] and tomorrow tomorrow as prime minister of the one and only jewish state, i plan to use that voice. [ applause ] roy israel that's devouring country after country in the middle east. that's exporting terror throughout the world. and that is developing as we speak the capacity to make nuclear weapons. lots of them. ladies and gentlemen, israel and the united states agree that iran should not have nuclear weapons. but we disagree on the best way to prevent iran from developing those weapons. disagreements among allies only natural from time to time even among the closest of allies. because there are important differences between america and israel. the united states of america is a large country. one of the largest. israel is a small country. one of the smallest. america lives in one of the world's safest neighborhoods. israel lives in the world's most dangerous neighborhood. america is the strongest power in the world. israel is strong but it's much more vulnerable. american leaders worry about the security of their country. israeli leaders worry about the survival of their country. you know i think that encapsulates the difference. i've been prime minister of israel for nine years. there's not a single day, not one day that i didn't think about the survival of my country and the actions that i take to ensure that survival. not one day. [ applause ] because of these difference america and israel have had serious disagreements over the course of our nearly 70-year-old friendship. it started with the beginning. in 1948 secretary of state george marshall opposed the intention to declare statehood. that's an understatement. he opposed it. but understanding what was at stake, went ahead and declared israel's independence. in 1967 as an arab noose was tightening around israel's neck the united states warned the prime minister that if israel acted alone, it would be alone. but israel did act. acted alone to defend itself. in 1981 understand the leadership of the prime minister israel destroyed the nuclear reactor in iraq. [ applause ] the united states criticized israel and suspended arms transfers for three months. in 2002 after the worse wave of palestinian terror attacks in israel's history, the prime minister launched operation defensive shield. the united states demanded that israel withdraw troops immediately but sharon continued until the operation was completed. there's a reason i mention all of this. i mention them to make a point. despite occasional disagreements, the friendship between america and israel who is stronger and stronger decade after decade. our friendship will weather the current disagreement to grow even stronger in the future. i'll tell you why. because we share the same dreams. because we pray and hope and aspire for that same better world. because the values that unite us are much stronger than the differences that divide us. [ applause ] values like liberty, tolerance, compassion. as our region descends into mid evil barbarism. israel is the one that upholds these values common to us and to you. [ applause ] as assad drops bombs on his own people israeli doctors treat victims in our hospital right across the fence. as christians in the middle east are beheaded and ancient communities are decimated, israel's christian community is growing and thriving the only one such community in the middle east. [ applause ] n israel serve as chief justices ceos, fighter pilots, two women chief justices in a row. not in a row. but in succession. that's pretty good. in a dark and savage and desperate middle east israel is a beacon of humanity of light and of hope. [ applause ] ladies and gentlemen, israel and the united states will continue to stand together because america and israel are more than friends. we're like a family. disagreements in the family are always uncomfortable. but we must always remember that we are family. [ applause ] rooted in a common heritage sharing a common destiny, and that's the message i came to tell you today. our alliance is sound. our friendship is strong. and with your efforts it will get even stronger in the years to come. thank you, aipac. thank you, america. god bless you all! [ applause ] >> all right. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu wrapping up his address at aipac. we're covering the speech from all political angles. dana bash is on capitol hill. jim acosta is at the white house. wolf blitzer is in washington. and christiane amanpour will join us from london. we also have a fellow from the center of middle east politics at the brookings institution. i want to start with you, wolf. when benjamin netanyahu began his speech he said that the united states and israel's alliance is stronger than ever. i want to play a bit of that sound and then ask you a question after. let's listen. >> reports of the demise of the israeli/u.s. relations is not only premature, they're just wrong. [ applause ] you're here to tell the world that our alliance is stronger than ever. >> wolf i got to tell you, as i listened to the rest of his speech i got the feeling that benjamin netanyahu doesn't really believe that. what did you take away from that? >> he clearly disagrees with the president of the united states on these negotiations with iran to try to end its nuclear program. he made it clear. he thanked the president for economic support, military support, intelligence support. he said there were certain things that the united states has done for israel. he couldn't even talk about publicly. he went out of his way to underline that supports comes not only from republicans but democrats. he was trying to ease that partisan tension that has clearly developed in the aftermath of the invitation to invite him to speak before congress tomorrow. at the same time he didn't minimize the serious differences that his government in israel has right now with the government of the united states. the president of the united states as to these negotiations. negotiations aren't even done with yet but he's already saying this is a bad mistake. this may be a mistake for the u.s. but for israel it could be the end of israel. he's not mincing any words on that. i'm sure the white house will respond. i know the president will be giving an interview later this afternoon to reuters and presumably he'll respond, susan rice, the president's national security adviser, will speak later tonight before this same group. she'll have an opportunity to respond. he didn't mince any words. he said this deal is a bad deal that could endanger israel's security and that's why he says he needs to speak up. >> it seems to me that he kind of started schooling the audience or maybe the television audience that israel is located in a part of the world that they can't take any chances with iran. >> you know carol, that's of course prime minister netanyahu's main theme. he's been saying that as he's been prime minister for nine years and most israeli prime ministers have been saying that obviously. obviously nobody wants to see a bad deal. but the question here is a couple. one, israel if it could could rather would rather there be no enrichment capability whatsoever. u.s. and allies said we tried and haven't managed with draconian sanctions over a better part of two decades to stop them from enriching. all we can do is make them not exercise any capability that would be military capability with that enrich and that's the basis of the deal they hope to strike. john kerry has said look israel has benefited as has we and the rest of the world from the interim agreement where there's been no beissues. the question is what kind of deal emerges. they say that look this is what we can do and it will be good for israel and good for the rest of the world. israelis are saying -- >> i was going to say irony is negotiations are continuing in switzerland right now. >> they are. israelis say if prime minister benjamin netanyahu doesn't like this deal instead of rubbishing it, perhaps he should have tried to get some israeli demands in it like make it a condition that iranians you know stop or say they are not going after the annihilation of israel. that kind of thing. it is going on in switzerland right now. they have a deadline of the end of march to see whether they can come up with anything. just very interesting postscript. if you can't win diplomatically you'll have to go militarily. the outgoing israeli defense force chief has given an interesting interview to israeli television where he implied without saying it straight out that he stood in the way of any order to go militarily against iran. >> interesting. i want to go back to president obama and benjamin netanyahu's relationship for just a second. head out to the white house and check in with jim acosta. so in that speech jim, benjamin netanyahu tried to make clear that things were fine between president obama and mr. netanyahu. let's listen. >> let me clarify what's not the purpose of that speech. my speech is not intended to show disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office he holds. i have great respect for both. >> all right. of course he's talking about his big speech before congress which will happen tomorrow. did what netanyahu say today, will it ease tensions at all? >> i don't think so. wherever you have to give a speech where you have to say i don't mean disrespect to the president, that should be a given in washington and for the prime minister to have to say that i think it goes to the depths of how far this relationship has sunk in recent weeks. it is interesting that netanyahu is giving this speech at aipac. he'll give roughly a similar speech tomorrow i guess. from talking to administration officials out wardwardoutwardly, they say the relationship is fine. privately, they are very dissatisfied with this visit. they feel like maybe netanyahu has injected politics into the u.s./israeli relationship. one thing they say without attribution is that time and again netanyahu has been wrong on this issue. they say that netanyahu blasted the joint plan of action the interim agreement reached in late 2013 and now netanyahu, they say, wants to extend that agreement. so they feel like israeli security is being respected here and the thing that i'm told is that what people have to keep in mind in this country is what they're after is improving american security and enhancing american security and they feel like that's also at stake in these negotiations. the military prospect is there if diplomatic talks fail and that's something you hear privately from officials inside this white house. if this doesn't work that is potentially where we're headed next and so why is netanyahu in such a rush? president obama has said carol, with respect to this relationship that he speaks to prime minister netanyahu more than any other world leader and that they know where each other stands on this issue. what the president has said and officials say inside this white house is if these negotiations fail with iran they are moving down that road to other options that are on the table including sanctions and including potential for military action and that's why the president has said on more than one occasion what's the rush? >> all right. let's go to dana bash because she's on capitol hill. netanyahu also spoke about not wanting to inject himself into partisan politics. he didn't mean to do that. he can't back away from that now, can he dana? >> he says he's not trying to inject partisan politics but by deaf significance that's happening because remember the whole reason this is controversial that he's coming to capitol hill this speak tomorrow is because he was invited by the house speaker without prior approval by the white house, which is not certainly the rule but it is tradition and it is protocol for that to happen. that's number one. number two, benjamin netanyahu is up for re-election himself in just two weeks so there are politics all over this. global politics going on here. kind of ironic just covering aipac for years, their theme has been they're nonpartisan, bipartisan forget partisan. it's hard to do that right now. so that in terms of politics but in terms of substance, i thought a very powerful moment that you're probably going to hear a lot more of tomorrow here on capitol hill is where he talked about the tentacles of terror and image which you won't be able to show when he's speaking to a joint session but the image of all of the places around the globe that iran is helping, he says to incite terrorism and to fund terrorism. and to prop up terrorists. that's something that he clearly is using to speak to members of congress here because everybody here in the united states as jim was mentioning has the same responsibility to their constituents as netanyahu has to his. he's coming here with a pullback home in israel saying three-quarters of israelis agree with him and disagree with the president on these talks with iran. that's the kind of congress that he's going to be facing here and much more importantly, he's going to be facing a congress that he's going to likely ask to help him in his cause, help stop these nuclear negotiations from becoming a reality by using their power, their legislative power to try to do so. >> dana bash thank you very much. i want to ask about politics in israel. at times netanyahu's speech kind of sounded like a campaign speech to me especially when he introduced his wife and extolled her virtues. what do you think? >> there was an element of that certainly. his wife has been in the news a lot. been criticized by many. don't attack my family attack me if you want to and speaking to the israeli audience. on substance, israelis agree largely with netanyahu. there's a lot of reason to be wary of this agreement with iran if it comes to fruition. the question for israel of course is can it produce a viable alternative? can it convince the american people the american legislators, the president, that alternative to this deal is something short of war. this is something that netanyahu has not succeeded in doing so far. when he speaks to the israeli public he's doing a few things. he's making the case that they largely agree with that iran is a threat to israel and spoke about annihilation of israel and if it had the means to do so it would be terrible. he speaks about the dangers that many israelis see. the threat that if the world lets down on its pressure on iran eventually iran could break out without people being able to stop it in time. he's also confronting two other things. one, he's trying to say that he has to convince israelis he's not damaging relationship with the united states. so when he is saying this he's not only saying it to the american people perhaps, he's trying to convince israelis he's not causing damage to relationship that israeli voters care about deeply. third, he's also trying to convince israelis of the need to press forward with these kind of tactics, not only substance of the agreement but tactics in washington right now. >> all right. thanks so much. wolf, i want you to wrap this up for us. this is a preview of what's to come tomorrow. >> he's got a major challenge ahead of him tomorrow. there will be a bunch of democrats who will boycott the speech. unprecedented for democrats and republicans always pretty much aligned themselves when it comes to supporting israel and now for a prime minister of israel to come to the united states and have a bunch of democrats, whether 20 30 40 whatever number eventually decide to boycott, that's a serious problem that the president of israel faces. a problem that was certainly brought on by the way of whole invitation was delivered to israel by the speaker without going through the white house, without giving the president of the united states kourntscourtesy to let them know there's an invitation to the prime minister of israel to address congress. the bad way this has started, he has a major challenge ahead of him tomorrow to try to fix this situation knowing also that he has an election in israel in two weeks and no guarantee he'll be re-elected. all polls show that it's really tight right now. he thinks this visit to washington will help him get re-elected but there are plenty of analyst in israel who think it won't help him because it underscores the rift that has developed on his watch between the united states and israel. it's a very fluid situation. he's got a huge challenge tomorrow. >> all right. wolf blitzer, thank you so much for being with me. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom," a world away from washington john kerry is in switzerland today meeting with the iranian foreign minister. we'll talk about that next. 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does anyone know? >> reporter: she's staying in the apartment of one of boris' aides. she then taken by police convoy to a detention facility where she is questioned and last night she was interrogated until 2:00 a.m. in the morning. she says that they're not telling her when she can leave and go home. for the moment she's kept in this apartment, which is under 24/7 surveillance and doesn't think she'll be able to go out to attend the funeral. carol? >> diana magnay reporting live from kiev ukraine this morning. checking other top stories at 58 minutes past. north korea fired two missiles into the sea of japan. the launch comes as united states and south korea begin their annual joint military drills. north korea slammed those drills saying they are merely a smokescreen to cover up the surprise invasion of the north. a texas nurse the first person to contract ebola in the united states says she's ready to sue. she got ebola after treating a patient at a dallas hospital. pham claim her privacy was violated by sharing medical records. the hospital released a statement saying they continue to support pham wish her the best and remain optimistic they can resolve the matter. thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. 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the politics lead. hillary clinton's team now saying they did individually review every e-mail before trashing some 32,000 private e-mails but new poll numbers breaking this hour show the american people aren't exactly satisfied with her explanation. good afternoon. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with the world lead. he has been on a warpath for more than a year with pro-russian separatists and russian troops laying waste to huge parts of eastern ukraine and basically daring the west to try and stop him in the process. ten days ago, however, the world was left to wonder just what exactly happened to vladimir putin. he vanished from the public eye. today, finally the russian president came out from wherever he's been for close to two weeks, putting those rumors to rest. the rumors ranged from his being dead to having the flu to seeing to the birth of a secret love child. not only is putin back but he may be more dangerous than ever. we are now hearing how far he was willing to go to tear off a piece of ukraine for himself, almost exactly one year ago. it almost included bracing for nuclear war. barbara starr is live at the pentagon for us. barbara, putin saying himself he nearly put his missiles at the ready? >> reporter: he is saying that he was indeed thinking about it jake. this according to a documentary on russian state media. he was thinking about it than is what has the u.s. so concerned right now. what else is coming down the road what else could vladimir putin be thinking about. vladimir putin reappeared for the first time in ten days making light of his absence, saying it would be boring without gossip. gossip that captured world attention not seen since cold war days when ousted soviet leaders suddenly failed to appear. did this russian leader have the flu, back trouble? even reports he went to switzerland to be with his girlfriend for the birth of his baby. publicly russia and the u.s. making light of it all. >> was the president pleased to see vladimir putin resurface? >> reporter: behind the scenes the u.s. says it believes putin was ill but was always in charge. not so fast say some experts. >> in a normal country, had you had this kind of situation, they would have had a photo op with the president. why didn't they do it with mr. putin? >> reporter: putin always wanting to be seen as the strong man in a weakened political position? >> i think there may be something going on inside the kremlin that we don't fully understand. >> reporter: what we do know putin has been under fire by protesters after the murder of his opponent, boris nemtsov. and there is more trouble as russians begin to realize they are losing troops in the battle for eastern ukraine. according to a new report from britain's independent royal united services institute, some russian units are so decimated by casualties that new ad hoc front line units are being formed in the field. the interior ministry has sent in special teams to keep russian soldiers from retreating. some russian conscripts are being tricked into signing long term enlistment papers. still, putin making more military shows of force. u.s. military officials say he is sending increasing numbers of nuclear-capable aircraft into crimea though no nuclear weapons. he has just ordered snap military exercises of the northern fleet in the arctic according to state-run media involving some 40,000 troops. the pentagon warning the arctic is being militarized. >> the russians have just taken a decision to activate six brigades and four of them will be in the arctic. >> reporter: now, look no one at the pentagon or the intelligence community or the white house at this moment thinks that russia is getting ready to attack europe to attack the united states. but all of this stirred up tension is causing a lot of concern because this is what the u.s. military calls miscalculation. if they don't know what putin's up to the concern is that somebody out there is going to miscalculate and there will be a crisis that nobody needs. jake? >> barbara starr at the pentagon thank you so much. joining me now is julia yaffey from "new york times" magazine and former moscow correspondent for the new yorker. thanks for joining us. the context here putin's chief opponent murdered right near red square. putin drops off the map. he then returns amidst this nuclear threat and the mobilization of troops. it feels like a menacing series of events. are they connected? >> the short answer is yes and no. the long answer is that it feels -- it's starting to feel especially to the moscow chattering classes like the wheels are starting to come off a little bit, that putin is not fully in control, that if he disappears, they don't know what's going to happen to the country. the investigation into the murder of boris nemtsov is starting to indicate that maybe putin didn't have full control over it that somebody did it without his approval. >> somebody else in his government? >> that's right. which indicates, which i think is far scarier than putin ordering the murder. >> because it means there's a rival force within his own government. >> that is violent and he can't control. >> in his absence, people speculated that he was sick there was covers of tabloiding suggesting a love child of some sort. today, he joked, life would be boring without gossip he said. why can't the kremlin give a straight answer about where he was? >> because it doesn't have to. because it doesn't owe anything to the russian people. i hate to bring it up but joseph stalin once said they would eat it up like a roll. that's the tactic putin seems to be going with that he doesn't have to explain anything to them. the russian people will eat it up and say thank you, can i have another. >> president obama and the other world leaders didn't know where he was for ten days and that seems to be the case nobody really knew where he was, this is a country with major nuclear forces what happens if they need to reach him, if something goes wrong? >> that's the problem is that he has so personalized the government that if he disappears it means the government would radically change. if something were to happen god forbid to the american president, america wouldn't fundamentally change. russia probably would. that's the scary part. we don't know in what direction it would change. >> this nuclear threat he made on state television where he basically said he was ready to get the missiles ready if this dispute over crimea came to it how seriously should world leaders like president obama and angela merkel and others take that? >> they have to take it very seriously, right, because you can't just go throwing around nuclear threats. >> but this is a guy that does puffery. this guy beats his chest literally in some cases. >> that's right. i'll tell you why it's important. it's important because a year ago when the andnexation was happening with polite people and little green men on the ground vladimir putin was denying it up and down swearing up and down the russians had nothing to do with it these were just local volunteers who were motivated, who hated kiev and a year later, he comes out on national tv in a state television produced documentary and says of course it was us and we sent in tens of thousands of russian special ops forces into crimea to take it. meanwhile, the same day, you have russian foreign minister sergey lavrov saying that you know if you really want to negotiate a real cease-fire you have to talk to the parties in this conflict. we have nothing to do with this. so in a year i think we will see another tell-all about this. >> thank you so much. good to see you. the national lead now. the man in jail for shooting two police officers in ferguson admits he pulled the trigger but jeffrey williams argues hey, i wasn't aiming at the police. i was aiming at someone else. just why did it take so long for this accused gunman to come forward? 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>> reporter: that's right. initially he agreed to do an interview with us and we had set a time to do that. then he canceled about 45 minutes prior after he got a lawyer who advised him not to talk. those who have been out here outside the ferguson police department day in and day out really since the michael brown shooting insist that williams is not one of them. but we are also hearing from witnesses who say williams was seen among the protesters last wednesday night, that in fact he raised some red flags with his presence because he seemed out of place. investigators say 20-year-old jeffrey williams admits he opened fire outside the ferguson police department. the shots hit one officer in the face and another in the shoulder. >> he has acknowledged his participation in firing the shots. >> reporter: but williams claims the police were not his target. the arrest happened over the weekend following a public tip. police say they found a 40 caliber gun at williams' home matching shell casings recovered at the shooting scene. >> i was shocked. i didn't expect it. i didn't think he had anything to do with that. >> reporter: why? >> i didn't know he was that type of person. he's real quiet. >> reporter: not many neighbors we spoke to knew williams well. family and friends who declined to go on camera adamantly defend williams. his mom's ex-boyfriend says williams wasn't an angel but wasn't violent. his facebook page verified by a family friend shows him drinking alcohol and flashing money. he also posts about ferguson and at one point writes about joining the looters. officials say at the time of his arrest he was on probation for receiving stolen goods. i also spoke with williams' mother who tells me she believes her son was coerced by police or even beaten into saying he was the gunman. williams' booking photo appears to show an abrasion on his right cheek. bishop derek robinson a community activist says he spoke to williams in jail. >> he was brutally beaten by the police and he was sore still had bruises all around his neck his back and his entire body. >> reporter: st. louis county police call the allegations completely false. jeff roorda with the st. louis police officers association tells cnn williams was taken into custody using the handcuffs of the injured officers. a 32-year-old from the webster grove police department and a 41-year-old 14-year veteran of st. louis county p.d. both have been released from the hospital. >> they are doing better. they are very relieved at this hour the entire law enforcement family is breathing a sigh of relief. >> reporter: witnesses say williams was seen at the protests outside the ferguson police department and was with at least one other person. as the investigation continues, police urge anyone with more information, more pictures or video, to come forward. at this point, williams faces a half dozen charges including two counts of first degree assault, also firing from a moving vehicle and he is being held on a $300,000 cash only bond. jake? >> ana cabrera, thank you so much. in other national news it's being described as eight minutes of sheer terror. waterton massachusetts police officer who confronted the boston bombing suspects three nights after the bombing attack recalled in heart-stopping detail today the insanity of the shootout between the suspects and police that played out just outside boston. that shootout ended with an explosion and one of the suspects tamerlan tsarnaev dead after being run over by his own brother, dzhokhar who was of course on trial for terror charges in connection with the boston bombings. countless maimed and four killed in those attacks and explosions and their halfaftermath. boston globe columnist kevin cullen was inside the courtroom for today's testimony and joins us now live. great to see you. can you share some of the more dramatic moments of today's testimony? >> reporter: well the way you describe it is pretty accurate. i would compare it to sort of a hollywood action film. this stuff doesn't happen in real life very often. the first cop, joe reynolds was on routine patrol. he was the first one that encountered them. he described going by them on one way and they going the other way on a side street and he was -- he looked eye to eye with dzhokhar tsarnaev. he turned around did a three point turn started following them and his supervisor john mclellan, a sergeant was on the way and said don't, you know go after them until there's some backup let me get there. as soon as mcclellan rolls around the corner on to laurel street and sees the cruiser, he says to joe reynolds light them up. that doesn't mean fire. that means turn on the blue lights. even before joe reynolds got to turn on the blue lights there were bullets pinging off his cruiser. he throws his cruiser into reverse at a high rate of speed and this is where it gets to be like one of the "die hard" franchise movies. john mcclellan decides to keep going. he keeps the car -- he has an suv, keeps it in drive jumps out of the vehicle, lets it go towards tamerlan tsarnaev who is out there firing, and that was critical because tamerlan tsarnaev wasted bullets into that empty vehicle and that would come back to haunt him. >> what about dzhokhar tsarnaev? he has been described pretty much as stoic for this trial. what was his demeanor as these details came forward, including ones about him killing his own brother? >> reporter: this kid has shown the same demeanor all along, whether you had the father of martin richard up there describing the killing of his 18-year-old -- his 8-year-old boy at the hands of dzhokhar tsarnaev or describing killing his own brother by running him over. he's not showing any emotion. he basically sits there, strokes his beard and doesn't do much of anything. >> it must have been surreal today because jurors also got a chance to see the boat where dzhokhar was ultimately captured along with that bloodstained note he wrote before he was caught. >> reporter: yeah. the jurors spent about a half an hour looking at that boat. it's about a mile away from here in a storage facility. they went up there and looked at it. it was interesting, the pool reporters who went there said the blood stains that were so evident, the things that were shown as a photo to the jurors and all of us last week is very faint. it's actually brown. you wouldn't know it's blood but the bullet holes that are all over the hull of the boat are there so the jurors saw that. i must say, of all the things that happened today, i would say the most extraordinary testimony was sort of mundane in them saying dzhokhar tsarnaev did not have to go back and run his brother over. he actually did a three point turn and reversed the vehicle. he could have sped off the other way. he was in a much better position to flee but apparently he decided to do a u-turn and come back that way, and then the police officers describe them being on top of tamerlan even after he was hit, the sergeant who hit him a number of times, they engaged in five ten feet away firing at each other before tamerlan ran out of bullets. those bullets he pumped into the empty vehicle. they were wrestling him on the ground trying to subdue him and here comes dzhokhar to run them over. that was the most extraordinary thing. that didn't have to happen. he actually turned the car around and made it happen. >> it makes it sound like he purposely killed his brother? that can't be. >> reporter: no i wouldn't say that. i think he wanted to run over the cops. that's what i think he wanted to do. there's no other explanation. why would he turn and go into the -- why return to where the fire was coming from? he had the car pointed the other way. he could have just kept going down laurel street. it would have been a much easier exit for him. instead he turned the car around went back at the cops and in doing so killed his brother because the cops jumped out of the way. >> amazing. kevin cullen thank you so much. coming up we heard his voice, we have seen his face and now we hear details about how jihadi john tortures his captives. shocking information from a hostage who lived through the misery. plus a decades-old murder mystery that may have been solved by an on-camera confession on premier cable. will it be enough to convict the millionaire? across america, people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes... ...with non-insulin victoza. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza. he said victoza works differently than pills and comes in a pen. victoza is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. it's taken once a day, any time. and the needle is thin. victoza is not for weight loss but it may help you lose some weight. victoza is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. victoza has not been studied with mealtime insulin. victoza is not insulin. do not take victoza if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza or any of its ingredients. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include swelling of face lips, tongue or throat fainting or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat problems breathing or swallowing, severe rash or itching. tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. serious side effects may happen in people who take victoza including inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis) which may be fatal. stop taking victoza and call your doctor right away if you have signs of pancreatitis, such as severe pain that will not go away in your abdomen or from your abdomen to your back with or without vomiting. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. taking victoza with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. the most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. if your pill isn't giving you the control you need... ask your doctor about non-insulin victoza. it's covered by most health plans. 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>> i think it well can be. this case has had so many weird twists and turns. it's just stranger than fiction of course. so it's a live mic. we all know i have a mic on they are live. the fact of the matter is the question is does he have a reasonable expectation of privacy in what he said under those circumstances. you could say he's in a bathroom he has a right to privacy but on the other hand it's a live mic. i would argue it comes in and i think the prosecutors can get that into evidence. that's why they're using it to charge him. >> let's talk about the other key piece of evidence miguel just described having to do with this anonymous tip letter to police that led them to susan berman's body the handwriting and misspelling of the word beverly matching identically to the letter durst wrote to berman. how would durst's defense dispute this? >> it's going to be near impossible. he misspells beverly in both of them. the fact of the matter is that was a relatively strong case back over a decade ago. it was arguably so. it's like there are three things in life that are certain, death, taxes and karma. is this karma now coming back to robert durst after these decades of corpses left behind him. this has now become what looks like a relatively strong case especially with those two notes. >> let's assume that there is enough new evidence to charge durst. is there enough to convict? >> well prosecutors charge on probable cause plus. it's basically would a jury be justified in convicting based on beyond a reasonable doubt standard and based on looking at the admissible defenses. that's how they charge. that really gets you closer to beyond a reasonable doubt than probable cause so the fact is i think this kind of a case could really convince a jury especially if they bring in the fact that she was ready to talk to the authorities, miss berman about the disappearance of his ex-wife, kathy, in new york when she was shot in the back of the head. keep in mind that note talked about her being dead a cadaver would be found in her house, and it was. >> you were a commentator for cnn and court tv on that 2003 case that seems in retrospect an open and shut case. he admits to killing his neighbor he said it was an accident but then he dismembers his body. what more do we know about that? why was he acquitted? >> well he relied on self-defense. he had a great line not a great line but a really interesting one. he said i didn't mean to kill my friend but i did mean to dismember my friend. that's what he said. he confessed. he talked to the jury about having done this. but he argued self-defense. it defies reason that he was acquitted and remember when that verdict came in the jaw that dropped the farthest was his. everyone in the courtroom was astonished. he was the most astonished. the fact is that was a gift. he had a great lawyer a great jury consultant both of whom i know and respect, and that's what happened in that case. he also argued and there was an argument about some asperger's syndrome and other issues that might have led him to act as he did claiming self-defense. >> guy has more lives than a cat. ann, thank you so much. appreciate it. the politics lead now. a new poll on hillary clinton's e-mail debacle. are voters satisfied with her explanation about why she kept a private e-mail account during her public days as secretary of state? 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nonchlgts >> no they do care. 51% say her use of personal e-mail is a serious problem. 48% say it's not so hillary clinton evenly dividing the american people. we should get used to that. 51% say it's a serious problem. 51% also think she did something wrong. she is taking a hit. how lasting will it be? we'll see. >> brianna, she may announce her candidacy as soon as next month, we are told. as she gears up and gets the campaign going, where are her favorability ratings? >> pretty good 53% according to this new cnn/orc poll. look at that compared the a year ago. it's dropped from 59% but she after leaving the state department it was really considered that her favorability was pretty sky-high as she became more political, it was going to come down. but also look at her unfavorability it's 44%. that's actually the highest unfavorable ranking she has had since she was campaigning for president the last time. >> wow. that's pretty high considering 2008 the bruising they took. john what do americans think about her explanation as to why she used this private personal server instead of the state department account? >> she's not done explaining is the best way to put it. has she explained it 46% say yes. 51% say no. again, close evenly divide right there. but clearly, we know benghazi select committee wants to bring her up at least twice. speaker john boehner on the republican side considering some other investigation. she will give interviews when she announces, we assume. she has more explaining to do. >> what about democrats? what do they think? >> that's the interesting thing. 68% of democrats say yes, she has done enough. 30% say no. if there were a credible challenger to hillary clinton, that 30% saying no she hasn't done enough would be an opening. that challenger just isn't on the field now. we don't see that challenger out there. if you look at the republicans, 19% of republicans say she has done enough. eight in ten say she has not. independents evenly split. if you look deep into the poll she does very well with democrats, pretty well with independents and republicans don't like her. >> brianna, the issue with this e-mail problem is that democrats fear it will feed into this issue that some people have with her trustworthiness. where is her trustworthiness on the poll? >> it's at 50% right now and that is down six points from a year ago. so this may be the e-mail controversy, this could also be the fact that she's becoming more of a political figure. but we look at these dips in poll numbers and i think what's also interesting is take a look at this one question that really sticks out to us. what would people surveyed say they are proud to have her as their president. 57% say yes. 42% say no. but that 57% is up from 50% a year ago. so i think that speaks right now to the kind of historic nature that if she were to be the first female president, that's something she certainly i think agrees with we keep hearing her very much -- >> the weird numbers to reconcile, because most people saying they don't accept her explanation, she needs to explain more and yet, 57% would be proud to call her madam president. >> she is viewed as somebody of great stature and gravitas. whenever you read a poll about hillary clinton some numbers seem contradictory. people view her stature but have doubts about her honesty. i would say the best thing about this poll is it's a great benchmark and great beginning line as she begins to run. let's look back at six and nine months as she goes through the campaign to see if the numbers change. if that unfavorable keeps going up or if she is static. most people think they know hillary clinton. so my big question is do her numbers move that much. does she go up and down with the daily news story or can you move her a lot? i don't know. >> the people in her orbit look at how they handled the two weeks of post-story about the e-mail as boy, we really blew it? even just last week a bunch of us including me were reporting that she did not individually review the personal e-mails she deleted, she just went through the e-mails, did search words, found words and assumed which ones were personal and which weren't and deleted the ones that didn't crop up with -- >> and they weren't reviewing everything. >> over the weekend they called and said that's not right. >> yeah. they said actually we took for granted, right, is what we were told, that people realized they reviewed every e-mail. i think what they would say is they are sort of a small shop doing a big shop's work and they are not fully equipped as a campaign. this is a complaint i have been hearing from her circle for a long time now but we are expecting that the campaign could be launching here in the next few weeks and then we will really they will be tested. >> thank you both so much. great work. appreciate it. coming up next a chain of islands slammed by a wall of water. most homes and buildings wiped out. authorities call it the worst disaster to ever hit the pacific. could the death toll rise as aid workers reach the country's far-flung corners? 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>> everybody was inside the recreation center. >> reporter: this church right here. >> this church. >> reporter: that was part of the plan? >> of course. that was part of the plan. the church is the main evacuation center due to cyclones. >> reporter: you think that saved lives? >> of course it did. >> reporter: the church is still serving as a temporary shelter for dozens of people from this community. there is still no electricity three days after the storm. there is still no running water and untold thousands and thousands of people made homeless. a bigger problem is nobody really knows the extent of the damage or the potential loss of life on dozens of other islands of vanuatu, one of the poorest countries in the pacific. ivan watson cnn, in vanuatu. >> our thanks to ivan watson. make sure to follow me on twitter, also have a facebook page. that's it for "the lead" today. i'm jake tapper. turning you over right now to one mr. wolf blitzer who is right next door in "the situation room." happening now, combat alert after a ten-day absence, russia's president putin reappears once again rattling his saber with more games like this. how close did he come to ordering a nuclear alert over ukraine? 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president. this man will likely take on the role of premiere. he currently holds the second highest position in the politburo committee. the congress will start on tuesday. they will discuss the many problems they face from political corruption to the ning wealth gap to friction within neighboring nations. we'll be giving you insight and analysis all this week in our special series, "china, change and challenge." we report from near the great hall of the people in beijing. >> reporter: a spokesperson for the national people's congress met reporters one day before its opening on tuesday. but she did not announce the country's annual defense budget. that's usually done the day before the congress. >> translator: the defense budget will be announced after discussion and approval by the national people's congress. strengthening of national defense is to protect the nation's safety and peace. not to pose a threat to other countries. >> reporter: china's defense budget has grown by double digits nearly every year for over two decades. monday's announcement drew close attention, observers say china left out the budget that the country's military buildup threatened the international community. the annual congress brings together about 3,000 people, provincial leaders, legal officials and military observers gather to hear speeches and to cast votes. they will discuss policies and problems the country needs to tackle in the coming year. ♪ the congress is china's parliament, given top authority under the constitution. it's empowered to institute growth and appoint top political leaders and officials. in practice, however, observers say the leadership decides key policies. congress approves them. on the opening day the premier usually presents his report. it is essentially a policy speech. in the days that follow the congress members will hear reports from top officials and past bodies. this year they have especially important business, a reshuffle of state and government leaders. at the top, president hu jintao is stepping down. xi jinping will be there. wen jiabao is the outgoing premiere. li keqiang will be his likely successor. the transition began in november. xi took charge of the politburo. congress will complete the process and finalize a shift to a new generation of leaders. they will discuss sound key economic and social issues. the benefits of growth are not being shared, and the income gap is causing resentment. people are also speaking about environmental conditions. a state of corruption and misconduct cases involving government officials is also fueling public frustration. authorities will give an update on the state of the problem. delegates will be briefed on foreign policy. relations with neighboring countries are under strain. countries are alarmed by china's moves to assert their presence in the region. regarding the dispute with japan over the senkaku islands, the spokesperson for the national people's congress said it would be impolite not to reciprocate the other's action. china looks for nationalization of the islands by japan's government as provocation and justified to dispatch of chinese patrol boats and aircraft to the area as countermeasures. when the outgoing leadership took power corruption and economic inequality were identified as key challenges. ten years later those issues have yet to be resolved. and democratic reforms seem to have made no progress at all. the world waits to see what congress has to say on the key issues facing china's future. nhk world, beijing. >> we'll be bringing you more stories and insight from china's national people's congress all this week. on tuesday our james tengan will report from beijing on premier wen jiabao's final policy speech. cradle of culture. economic powerhouse. many enjoy the fruits of prosperity. along the path to a new china. but millions are still missing out. and public discontent is growing. against that backdrop officials are choosing a fresh slate of government leaders. "newsline" correspondents will bring you full coverage of the incoming president's new administration. don't miss "china: change and challenge" at 8:00 p.m. japan time. the company operating the hot air balloon involved in a fatal crash in egypt last month says pilot error or part defects may be to blame. 19 foreign tourists died in the accident at ancient ruins in the city of luxor. they spoke for the first time in cairo. >> there is no scenario for the accident except either a pilot mistake which is throwing the drop line without making sure it was not entangled with the hose. the other is a manufacturing fault. >> the president expressed deep apology. he said he spoke to the pilot in the hospital. the captain reportedly said that after the balloon caught fire, he fell and tried to reach the safety valve of a gas cylinder but failed as he was engulfed in flames. the egyptian government is still investigating the accident. people in northeastern japan spent two years trying to get back on their feet. next month marks the second anniversary of the earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear accident. the march 11th disaster left nearly 2,000 people dead or missing. survivors are moving forward on a path to recovery. the biggest challenge is the damaged nuclear plant in fukushima. areas in the red are still off-limits. 160,000 people fukushima prefecture are able to go home. the earthquake and tsunami triggered a total blackout after the fuel inside the reactor was able to be kept cool. meltdowns happened in three of the six reactors. the temperature of the fuel continued to rise. high hydrogen built up and caused explosions. and the plant is no longer releasing specific amounts of radioactive materials. crews will one day dismantle the four crippled reactors. the entire operation could take up to 40 years. but tepco owners have not set timeline. >> reporter: an engineer at tepco for almost 30 years and was in charge of safety before the accident. now he supervises the cleanup process. what do you think the most difficult part, difficult element concerning the decommissioning process? >> two difficult challenges. the one is how to understand the primary continent vessel. and two remove the molten fuel. the other is how to cope with waste. how to treat them and how to safely store it. for the long term. >> tepco engineers are trying ton the situation in the reactors. they are using fiber optic scopes to gather images of the damage. they are using computer simulations to determine the condition of the molten fuel. the high levels of radiation are slowing things down. workers can only go into reactor buildings for five to ten minutes at a time. >> we haven't understand well how those are molten fuel distributed and located. we need to sample the debris and understand the characteristics and chemical characteristics of the debris so otherwise we cannot develop the necessary tool to remove the detritus. i hope we would like to understand some -- something about it within a couple of years. it takes a long time to -- it's difficult to achieve it. >> can we really say that the decommissioning process will end within a 40 years? >> it's very difficult to talk about such a far future. but it really takes some time. so even just for the next ten years or more, and you know there are the cessium measures, at some part of the decommissioning we need to wait. >> there are different ways to decommission a nuclear plant. but they all involve risk. given the state of fukushima daiichi, he needs to plan for unexpected challenges. he believes executives have to discuss it with stakeholders and explain the risks of the options before they decide what course of action they should take. >> we really need to improve our capability of the risk of communications. the decommissioning, we noticed to share the information. >> reporter: another major issue is the toxic waste on site at fukushima daiichi. every day, contaminated groundwater seeps. they put it into special casks. they are in a constant race to build enough storage capacity to prevent leaks into the environment. >> it's really impossible just to continue as we accumulate that water. so we need to think about the possibility of this -- or the other waste. like the operation. >> tepco engineers are planning to introduce a new device they say it's capable of removing radioactive isotopes from the water. the managers need to talk to local residents in order to decide how to resolve this problem. looking ahead, engineers have started updating the decommissioning rollback. the government places the entire process will take 40 years. right now, there is no concrete plan to fit that timeline. nhk world. path to recovery two years on will continue on tuesday. we'll look at the scale of the economic revival in the northeastern region two years after the disaster. we'll focus on the widening gap on the pace of reconstruction. and on monday, march 11th, live coverage of the national memorial ceremony at 2:46 p.m., the exact time the earthquake struck. the governor of yamaguchi prefecture has put off deciding whether to put off a land people in northeastern japan are reminded daily on what they lost on march 11, 2011. the earthquake and tsunami took awoved ones, homes, entire communities. survivors are moving ahead but they still face obstacles at the damaged nuclear plant and all along the pacific coast. "newsline" will bring you their stories. don't miss "path to recovery: two years on." the governor of yamaguchi prefecture has put off deciding whether to put off a land reclamation plan to build a nuclear power plan. the plan was stopped after the fukushima accident in 2011. the power company last october filed for an extension of the project, but governor of the prefecture rejected the request and asked the firm for explanation four times. he will give the firm a year to come up with more details on why the plant is needed as part of japan's energy policy. prime minister shinzo abe will review a former government policy. and debate goes on about the need to construct or reopen nuclear plants, they are drafting new measures to protect facilities during outside threats. the nra has convened a panel of nuclear experts. the panel held its first meeting on tokyo on monday. including eight experts on nuclear plants, counterterrorism and nuclear security. they look to introduce additional background checks for plant workers and will cover criminal and financial records based on the employees's consent. and they also want the panel to discuss possible scenarios if terrorists try to intercept a shipment of nuclear materials. their discussion will involve police, coast guard and other authorities. bangkok has held its gubernatorial election. campaigning was fierce and the competition was close. although the election was to choose the next governor of the capital, the outcome reflects the political as more fear of the whole country. we explain more. >> reporter: both counts show the main opposition of the democratic party has won the election. he ran for his second term as governor after stepping down in early january. the race effectively pitted him against a former deputy police chief. the two sides engage in a fierce battle for power. three years ago, the violent clash between the rival parties paralyzed parts of the capital for nine weeks. a group enjoyed support from voters who feel left behind from the country's economic growth such as formers. they have the backing of the urban middle class. the confrontation between the red and yellow camps is one of the nation's top political concerns. observers say a role between the anti-governor and shinawatra. this is responsible for the slow response to flooding in 2011. this is the younger sister of thaksin. bangkok is a traditional strong hold of the anti-thaksin group. pre-election opinion poles forecast that the candidate was in a narrow lead. the unexpectedly wide popularity of the pro thaksin bloc shows that more bangkok voters are welcoming the economic policies. the government is maintaining brisk economic growth on the back of the growing middle class. last november, those opposing the administration staged a mass rally. police estimated 20,000 people took part. the protesters felt alarmed by the resurgent influence -- who was ousted in 2006. the tension between the rival camps could have further escalated. the anti thaksin group gained a strong hold in iraq. the battle for pow every between the two camps will likely continue. nhk world, bangkok. elementary school students since central japan took part in a promote to promote one of their city's main industries, musical instruments. and in doing so, they managed to make it into a world famous reference book. ♪ >> after rehearsing for weeks, 712 pup pills brought their keyboard harmonicas to a park to interpret "twinkle twinkle little star ". their goal? to play for five minutes before a judge from the guinness book of world record. >> translator: you have set a new record. congratulations. >> 688 children completed the challenge. 24 more than the previous record set in turkey. >> translator: i think all of us became one, and we just went. i'm so happy we set a new guinness world record. >> the children came from 13 schools. their city is home to japan's three largest manufacturer of musical instruments. spring is coming soon to japan, at least it feels that way. rachael ferguson is here with the forecast. rachael? >> well, spring is coming. you might need to just hold your horses. i am going to tell you, we might see snow tonight. that being said, the rest of the forecast for the rest of the week, certainly by mid week, looks very good indeed. i'll show it to you in a moment. taking a look at the rest of the continent. high and dry. we're seeing unseasonably heavy rain, focusing on thailand because a little low is moving through. another small low pushing through japan. that is responsible for a few snowflakes, but generally things looking quite promising across eastern asia. 16 in shanghai. 14 in beijing, and just into double figure there. and tuesday highs in places that we are seeing high temperatures in the very low single digits. and looking pretty good 20 degree for the high temperature will last through the beginning of next week. looking at lows as well. seeing this for the high last week. a really big improvement. just a little bit of the last of the winter snowfall this evening. into the americas, again, a very much still winter across the northern plains. in fact, blizzard warnings posted for eastern montana and western north dakota. are you being advised to bring winter survival kit with you if you are traveling there. pretty treacherous stuff. 20 cent meters of snow. 30 in some places and buffeted by strong winds. storm is show moving. will push into illinois and iowa. not to forget the central canadian provinces. out west, looking dry right now, but there is a low just looming offshore and it will be bringing the rains, but the upper elevations will see snow. and you can see 35 centimeters and there is a winter storm watch posted for northern california. down toward the south. looking a little bit more springlike. 26 degrees on in houston on monday. and 1 degrees for chicago, and a 6 on the forecast for d.c. and europe, once again there, is going to be a gradual warming trend which will please many of you. clear skies across much of the continent. wet weather up toward the north. most of it will be rain. same goes for the southwest this is a much more angry system. in fact, it's bringing hail to parts of northern africa, including morocco. thunderstorms reported as well. and it is a fairly violent system now. it will be heading in toward the middle of the mediterranean by mid week. see thunderstorms come in toward you in rome. here are temperatures. that should make you feel better. 17 degrees in lisbon. 15 in madrid. 13 in london. 10 degrees in vienna, definitely an improvement in central europe. the cutoff line there, anywhere east of poland is still going to be dealing with some subzero highs. moscow, minus 6. minus 3 in kiev. here is your extended forecast. elementary school students in central japan took part in an event to promote one of their city's main industries. musical instruments. and in doing so, they managed to make it into a world famous reference book. ♪ >> after rehearsing for weeks, 712 pup pills brought their keyboard harmonicas to a park to interpret "twinkle twinkle once again, our lead story. the company operating the hot air balloon involved in a fatal crash in egypt last month says pilot error or part defects may to be blame. 19 foreign tourists died in the accident at ancient ruins in the city of luxor. the firm's president spoke publicly about the accident for the first time in cairo. >> there is no third scenario for the accident except either a pilot mistake which is throwing the drop line without making sure it's not entangled with the hose. the other is a manufacturing fault. >> the president expressed deep apologies for causing many casualties. he also said he spoke to the pilot in the hospital. the captain reportedly said that after the balloon caught fire, he fell and tried to reach the safety valve of a gas cylinder but failed as he was engulfed in flames. the egyptian government is still investigating the accident. we'll be back in 30 minutes. i'm gene otani. from all of us, thank you for joining us. have a great day wherever you are.

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as a parent we were just devastated. >> why didn't they go to the cops earlier? plus the gop field gets even more crowded. >> a lot of candidates will say the right things. we need a president that has done the right thing. >> rick perry throws his hat into the ring and will voters give him a second chance? >> i think america is seeing what a promising person he can be. >> let's talk live in the cnn "newsroom." good morning. i am carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we are learning chilling tphanew details about a gruesome plot. rahim was killed after lunging at officials with a combat knife. rahim, who was under constant surveillance changed his plans hours before he was killed. the new target the boys in blue a reference to law enforcement. now this man, 25-year-old david wright who police say is an associate is facing terror related charges, and we are hearing from pamela geller the target of the initial plan. geller recently made headlines herself after she organized a controversial cartoon prophet contest. >> drawing an ainnocuous cartoon warrants chopping my head off? they are going to come for you, too, chris. the media should be standing with me particularly in light of foley, by submitting to islamic law, that's what you are doing. people need to understand the jihadic doctrine and it's coming for you, and mainstream muslims should be standing with me shoulder to shoulder in defense of free speech. >> and tell us more alexandra. >> reporter: that big question about why police intervened in front of the cvs has been answered. authorities said they noted changes in the behavior of the man they had been following 24 hours a day, and court documents reveal his plans also changed. not only had he switched targets, he accelerated the timetable. he planned an attack that would have unfolded on tuesday or wednesday of this week. the original plot was allegedly sinister and gruesome according to law enforcement officials. the fbi believes boston terror suspect, rahim's original plan was to behead pamela geller a activist and conserveative blogger. rahim purchased this knife on amazon and then he makes a phone call to 25-year-old, david wright. wright is now being charged with destroying evidence on rahim's smartphone. the fbi says rahim told his nephew about the knife over the phone and wright later responded with a reference, investigators say, to terrorists beheadings. the next day on may 27th the fbi intercepts the amazon package and x-rays it and finds a knife and sharpen you are, and abruptly on this week tuesday, the fbi says rahim calls his nephew and says he is changing the plan because he can't wait that long instead he is going to go after the boys in blue and rahim reveals his plan to randomly kill police officers in massachusetts on tuesday or wednesday. this supposed escalation investigators say, is what prompted them to approach rahim at the shopping center on wednesday. >> the video clearly shows the four or five officers backtracking away from the suspect as he is coming at them. >> this morning, we are learning more about rahim. he went to college in florida, a former guidance counselor remembers him as a bright student. we no back in the area he had some work in security and beyond that carol, i was able to speak two imams at a mosque and they say they knew him since he was a young boy and they describe his family as being devout and they say he was observant but never expressed any thinking they considered radical or extreme. >> reporting live from boston this morning. after rahim was shot and killed by police his brother posted that authorities shot him in the back. and that's not what happened. my next guest was one of the clergy members in that room reverend mark scott joins me live from boston. welcome, sir. >> good morning. thank you. >> thank you for being here. can you describe what you saw on that video? >> well the video displays actually clearly -- it answers the question of was he shot in the back or in the front. when you watch the video, what you see is the officers in a fairly calm way are walking towards him, and then he comes back towards them, and the officers begin to back up in a crouching position and they appear to call for support from two other officers that are there with them, and as he approached them they fire and you see him go down. the video makes it very clear that he was shot in the front and not shot in the back. >> did you see the knife? >> the video camera is some distance -- it's a parking lot, and so the video camera is coming across the parking lot, and there is some distance it was raining that morning, so what you can see are the figures, and you can't see the weapon itself the knife itself but you can see that he is approaching the officers. >> you were in that room with people and clergy from the muslim community and others from the african-american community, and what was their reaction to watching this video? >> one of the things that was important about this conversation is that the police commissioner it has been his habit now when these things happen in our community, reached out to christian ministers and the muslim community, and present was the fbi and the district attorney and what we are in the habit when these things happened in boston we get together and talk about it. i reached out to the muslim community, and their feeling was one of surprise shock and grief. they are struggling to understand what has happened here why it has happened and how we are going to be able to talk with one another to move forward beyond it. i would say that the community is grieving itself, and certainly we feel for the mother who is grieving, and they are working hard to support that mother who has lost a son. >> reverend i don't know if you got a chance to watch chris cuomo's interview with pamela geller because supposedly she was the initial target rahim wanted to behead her. what do you make of that? >> well the idea of beheading somebody or attacking somebody for them exercising their free speech rights is clearly wrong. we need to have a deeper understanding of one another. why is it that it's important for the islamic community not to have a physical depiction of the prophet mohammed? that's where the dialogue needs to go. we want to avoid, even though we have the right to do it and certainly you have the free speech right to do it but taunting one another, and egging one another on we are facing a serious challenge in our city and around the world, and if we are going to solve it we have to do a better job of trying to understand one another, engaging in some dialogue so that we are able to use our free speech rights for good things. >> i am getting that you don't think pamela geller is actually doing that? she said in the interview, quote, this is a showdown for american freedom and that's why she held the prophet mohammed contest. do you believe what she is doing is a showdown for american freedom? >> no. we need to use our freedom and our free speech rights to build communities, and that's the responsibility. with freedom comes responsibility. we have to use our freedom in ways that are responsible, and there is a very rich diverse vibrant muslim community here in boston, and we need to get to know each other and we don't do that by poking sticks in each other's eyes. >> thank you for your insight. appreciate it. the fbi is scrambling to keep up with isis' new social media strategy of having direct contact with the americans. 2,000 core isis supporters put out a message, and then it's retreated, and 200,000 people receiving that particular message. >> this has become a very big problem for law enforcement because isis doesn't care who it reaches, they are throwing a very broad net to try and catch anybody that might be converted to their ideology and carry out an attack. >> in boston an alleged plot to attack police officers by a man suspected of being a homegrown extremist is part of what national security officials describe as a surge in u.s.-based isis sympathizers. a surge driven by twitter and social media, say law enforcement, making the threat of attacks more and more likely. >> there are thousands and thousands of messages being put out into the eitherer tpaer. >> the u.s. estimates there are 180 americans that have joined or tried to join terror groups overseas and now isis' strategy is evolving and not only is the terror group using social media to recruit and inspire, they are also using social media to make direct contact with people like garland, texas, terror suspect, elton simpson, shot dead when plotting to open fire on a cartoon event. >> they will try to directly communicate with the individual to give them coaching and guidance on how to do an attack inside the united states. >> the fbi is using more resources tracking potential suspects. boston terror suspect, rahim, had been put under 24/7 surveillance because of information police called alarming. fbi director james comey, says isis recruitment efforts are becoming difficult to detect because of encrypted information. >> i can't tell you i have it all covered. >> the out reach, carol, is really global because they are not only putting their messages out in english but in french and in german, and they are just trying to find those lone wolf attacks or people that can communicate with each other to do these kinds of assaults. it's all about terror. still to come in the "newsroom," the dugger family defending their actions as son josh confessed molestation. more than a month after the looting of pharmacies, baltimore finds itself desperate for help. new flonase allergy relief nasal spray. this changes everything. flonase is the 24 hour relief that outperforms a leading allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens our bodies react by over-producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance, flonase controls six. and 6 is greater than 1. so go ahead, inhale life, excite your senses, seize the day and the night. new flonase. 6 is greater than 1. this changes everything. when laquinta.com sends craig wilson a ready for you alert the second his room is ready ya know what he becomes? 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(vo) stay in the flow with quickbooks self-employed. start your free, thirty-day trial today at join-self-employed-dot-com. the dugger family is breaking its silence speaking out about their oldest son's josh's molestation of a young sister and babysitter. last night they sat down with fox news trying to explain their actions when their son confessed to touching four girls. >> he said he was curious about girls, and he touched them over their clothes while they were sleeping. >> the girls all sleep together? >> yeah the girls had two bedrooms at the time. >> how many girls are we talking about? >> five girls at the time, and so anyway he went in and said he had done this and so we first off, of course really talked to him and then we went and talked to all the girls and children. >> it was so important for us as parents to talk to our girls and make sure that nothing else had happened. one by one, as we talked with them none of them were aware of josh's wrong doings. >> they learned about it from you? >> yes. >> at that point he said he had done this to how many of the girls? >> two. >> but neither had any recollection? >> they did not know. >> what was their reaction when they learned it from you? >> they really didn't know. what happened was, we asked them at first if anything happened, and then it was after some other things happened that we actually shared with them and we took a lot of steps. first we tried to deal with this in house as parents. we were in shock and we were trying to figure out what was the next step. really looking back we did the best we could under the circumstances. >> part of their plan involved a stern talking to by a police officer, and sending josh away to do construction work as rehabilitation for a couple months. let's talk about this. we are joined by hln legal analyst joey action and a psychologist and author. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> good morning, carol. >> dr. gayle, did the duggers sound like reasonable parents to you? >> i think to many parents they will sound like reasonable parents because they obviously deeply cared and they tried to do things to correct the situation, if you will. so i think there was a lot of -- i think it's heartfelt and there was a lot of reasonableness on their part. unfortunately, i think they also said things that viewers need to understand may not be the best thing to do. counselor is a meaningless term. it does not mean a professional who is experienced in the area of treating children and adolescence who are having an issue like this and is it a psychologist or psychiatrist. >> they called it a christian counselor. >> for religious purposes that may be great, but a behaveior that is defiant, and a desire to do it to somebody so much younger than you, and having an interest in somebody much younger than you is very arbitrary and protective on the parents' part but not true. all those things matter and people need to understand what defines getting professional help. a counselor who has no degree of particular sort of experience in this area can hurt more than help. >> what i found interesting, the duggers kept saying what happened to their daughters was a mistake. you are in the field of law, was it a mistake? >> listen just talking about the statute itself if you look at the statute, that is the law in some duh strictareas, and so if somebody is touching somebody else in various areas as there appears to have been here it would have been a violation of the statute. based on how it was reported carol, it exceeded the three-year statute of limitation for which he could have been prosecuted and that never happened. >> how do most families deal with this? >> going back to the law, carol, what i found very interesting is there are over 30 -- there 36 mandatory reporters in arkansas and parents are not mandatory reporters. you have a household that is full of children and interestingly enough the statute talks about force to parents, but not parents themselves being reporters mental facilities -- >> that means your child can go out and rape somebody and you don't have to report the rape? >> you have no affirmative obligation to report as a parent and that's a statutory issue, and -- >> pedonteed pediatricians and emergency room physicians. >> i want to talk to the girls them selves, and they say they have forgiven their brother. they did not know they had been touched inappropriately because they were asleep and in a police report it says one time the touching happened in the laundry room and one time while one was sitting on josh's lap, which means she was not asleep. what do you make of that? >> any parent that loves all of their children would want to minimize things as much as possible to spare all of them the pain, and they may not do that consciously. unconsciously, they didn't really get it or understand. it's also partially true. they may not have understood what was happening to them at the time. they were little kids. so it's an understandable thing to do but when you are trying to teach your child to protect themselves it's better not to do that right? that's how children end up being abused because they don't exactly understand or they want to deny that something terrible is happening to them so they minimize it. when you are trying to teach children -- i think that's what we can all gain from this. we should stay away from the young ladies now, and protecting your children in general you need to be up front about what constitutes this. >> the only reasonable way to conclude if there is a reasonable way, the chief police consulted the county attorney, and it's sealed and cannot be released if you are arrested or if you were detained or proceedings consistent with juvenile proceedings, and it could have gone to juvenile court, and their reading was it doesn't fall within any of the required exceptions so as a result they released them and whether or not they will fly is another issue. >> the duggers are taking issue with that. we will see. >> absolutely. still to come in the "newsroom," jeb bush finally announces -- well not exactly yet, but he will announce soon i promise you, and we will tell you the date. today is the date for rick perry, and he is hours away from formerly announcing his bid for the white house. >> reporter: we're in addison, texas right now where rick perry will try to make his mark in an increasingly crowded gop fold, and we will tell you how he plans to do that when we come back. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you have copd, ask your doctor about once-daily anoro ellipta. it helps people with copd breathe better for a full 24hours. anoro ellipta is the first fda-approved product containing two long-acting bronchodilators in one inhaler. anoro is not for asthma. anoro contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increased in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, or high blood pressure. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, prostate or bladder problems, or problems passing urine as anoro may make these problems worse. call your doctor right away if you have worsened breathing chest pain, swelling of your mouth or tongue, problems urinating or eye problems including vision changes or eye pain while taking anoro. nothing can reverse copd. the world is filled with air and anoro is helping people with copd breath air better. get your first prescription free at anoro.com. and an early morning mode. and a partly sunny mode. and an outside... to clear inside mode. transitions® signature® adaptive lenses ...are more responsive than ever. so why settle for a lens with just one mode? 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>> i don't know anybody knows how last run the was and how hard rick perry has been preparing. take a look at what anita perry was going through her mind when that oops moment happened. >> that wasn't the rick perry that i knew, that i know now up on that stage. to be honest with you, he is different, so much different now than he was then, and i think america is seeing what a promising person he can be, and i think america is a great place for a second chance. >> you can see there, she really does her believe is a totally different guy this time around. he is working harder and healthy and prepared, and i think we are going to get a sense of that when he announces today. >> definitely rick perry rolled out a couple campaign ads, and they sound reaganesque. let's listen. >> we have the power to make our country new again. we don't have to accept the weakness abroad we are seeing today or the slow recovery economically we see here at home. >> will voters give perry a second chance? >> that is mourning in america right now. i think voters may give rick perry a second chance. the fact that he is healthy now, and he was not healthy when he did this before. he spent the last two years studying up on foreign policy for this moment and a lot of conservative activist and strategist in the party will tell you, keep your eye on him. he clearly has baggage from the bad 2012 run, the oops moment that you played but he is spending a ton of time in iowa and he is a very personable guy, and he has a good record in texas to run on and he has a story to tell and he is more physically fit to tell this time around. i think he can have a real impact in the race. >> sarah, i like when you asked about rick perry's glasses, and his wife well she kind of took you to task actually? >> well a lot of people say rick perry got those glasses because he wanted to look smart and prove he was a different guy this time around, and anita perry is having none of that, and she said he needs the glasses to see and everybody is making a big fuss out of this for no reason and her husband is smart and has been studying. he is going to prove he is not just a nice and attractive guy, but somebody that they can see as their next president. >> so he is fighting his way through. the debate august 16th do you think he will make it rick perry, do you think he will make it david? >> the fox debate you are talking about on august 6th it will be the first ten people in the polls. he is right in there right now so i imagine rick perry will be on the stage. i would add another note about his announcement today, he is doing it under indictment, and he has a texas lawsuit hanging over his head that his aides dismiss as partisan, and it's still there and we have to go through the process, and that's an unusual position for a candidate to be in when they announce. >> is that a first? 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[doorbell rings] what's this? swiffer sweeper. i came in under the assumption that it was clean. i've been living in a fool's paradise. happening right now in china, teams are trying to turn this capsized cruise ship upright along the yangtze river. that should make it easier to recover the bodies of hundreds trapped inside. earlier they tried cutting holes in the ship's hull but found no signs of life. the ship went down when hit by a cyclone. 14 have been found alive, 77 others dead hundreds missing. isis cutting off vital life line to thousands of people. militants shut down most of the gates to a dam in the iraqi city of ramadi. that's right along the euphrates river. the move by isis could make it easier for it to attack towns downstream. cnn international correspondent nick peyton walsh alive in baghdad to tell us more. hi nick. >> two real signs as you mentioned. seems isis definitively all states outside ramadi two or three open occasionally we understand to let water flow down fra that river, uflats river from ramadi all the way to fallujah which they already col. they want to make sure some water flows to their people there. the vast majority of the water. social media pictures uploaded shows how downstream river beds exposed, upstream overflowing, all the fish they have caught. clearly a bit by isis to say to those caught up in fighting we have the one thing you need agriculture, basic daily life in this punishing climate out in the desert here water. now, another element, of course exposing itself to we're hearing reports potentially some of the areas, may actually be 1 meter, three feet closer than it was before. the river has dropped, we understand make it easier to take positions defended by shia fighting groups there. that makes them much more vulnerable to attack because isis could simply walk across the mote effectively, they have been held back by. two substantial issues in the months ahead, it's going to be the humanitarian crisis that plays harder in this region as the population expands, the climate worsens at times, water is a threat. now we're finally seeing this emerging on a day when united nations called for nearly a billion dollars immediately to assist the 8 to 10 million people urgently in need of assistance right now, just in iraq. that's how bad the crisis is. this water crisis unfolding around ramadi a part of that picture. carol. >> all right. nick peyton walsh from baghdad. prosecutors deciding how they want to proceed in the shooting death of 12-year-old tamir wright. prosecutors handed over findings yesterday. the case expected to go to a grand jury. rice playing with a pellet again unnovember when police officer shot him responding to a 911 call. ukraine is accusing separatist rebels of violating an already fragile cease-fire. there's been heavy artillery fire around rebel held city of donetsk in ukraine. a major highway leads west and capital kiev. ukraine's defense ministry said forces held back separatists after hours of fighting. facebook executive sheryl sandberg says she lived 30 years and 30 days. hear her candid and emotional tribute to her late husband. new flonase allergy relief nasal spray. this changes everything. flonase is the 24 hour relief that outperforms a leading allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens our bodies react by over-producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance, flonase controls six. and 6 is greater than 1. so go ahead, inhale life, excite your senses, seize the day and the night. new flonase. 6 is greater than 1. this changes everything. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? 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woman who's being questioned today as a possible accomplice of the daring prison break in new york state. an official tells cnn she's a prison employee who worked with the two escaped murderers day tailoring clothing and knew them well. we're following the 24/7 manhunt for the convicts who used power tools to cut through the walls of their cells andfully through a maze of underground pipes. a startling admission by president obama about the u.s. war against isis. speaking at the g7 summit he acknowledged he doesn't have a complete strategy for training iraqi forces to fight the terrorists. i'll talk about that and more with senator chris murphy a member of the senate foreign relations committee. our correspondents and analysts are also standing by as we cover all the news breaking now. first let's go to our senior white house correspondent at the site of the g7 summit in europe. so what happened, jim? >> reporter: president obama acknowledged more than nine months into the battle against isis he is retooling his approach for defeating the terrorist group after a quick trip to the spectacular ba vavian at s to huddle with other world leaders gathered here. the president revealed he is readvicing what has been the cornerstone of his strategy training iraqi forces to fight isis militants on the ground. in a remark the president's critics seized on mr. obama said he is still in search of what he called a complete strategy for training. here's what he had to say. >> we don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the iraqis as well about how recruit recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. so the details of that are not yet worked out. >> now the president admitted that even as the pentagon is drawing up a plan to boost training for iraqi troops the government in baghdad is having trouble finding new fighters. and we should point out republican critics are pouncing on the president's remarks. house homeland security chairman michael mccall said what was surprising today was that the president admitted he didn't have a strategy and the remarks are a reminder of what the president said nine months ago. wolf you'll remember them well. that was when he said he did not have a strategy for dealing with isis in syria. >> there was an awkward moment during the summit the leaders gathering there with the iraqi prime minister haider al abauddi. he came next to the president, sat down. pick up what happened there. >> reporter: right, it was strange. an iraqi prime minister haider al abauddi, traveled to the alps to ask the world leaders for more military assistance. there was this awkward moment earlier today when it seemed he could not get the president's attention. the president was apparently deeply engrossed in his conversation with other leaders at this summit and did not realize that the iraqi prime minister was right behind him. i think we should point out, this does not appear to be a snub. abadi is the man the president wanted as prime minister of iraq and later the president told prime minister abadi during their bilateral meeting that more support is coming for the iraqis and he pledged that isis will be defeated. but no question about it it was a strange moment wolf. >> certainly was. jim, thank you. let's get to another dangerous thorn in the president's side as he met with the g7 at lies. that would be russian liter vladimir putin. the president delivered new warnings about putin's meddling in the bloody warfare in eastern ukraine, although so far the threats, the sanctions, they haven't ended the fighting yet by any means. let's bring in our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto, he's got more on what's going on. >> there's the talk of possibility of new sanctions but this summit of g7 leaders produced no new penalties or new policy against russia. the president made clear the new possible sanctions he mentioned are still being discussed. just at the technical level. western leaders have made no political decision to implement them. this is what a cease-fire looks like on the ground in eastern ukraine. russian-backed forces in close combat with the ukrainian army. cracks in the minsk agreement designed to end the fighting. today g7 allies reiterated their unity in defense of kiev. president obama warning of possible new penalties on moscow. >> the g7 is making it clear that if necessary, we stand ready to impose additional significant sanctions gilbert arenas russia. we will continue to seek a diplomatic solution. >> reporter: any diplomatic resolution remains hampered by diametrically opposed facts on the ground. this weekend, russian president vladimir putin insisted the west has nothing to fear of russia. and once again denied any russian troops inside ukraine. today president obama countered. >> as we've seen again in recent days russian forces continue to operate in eastern ukraine, violating ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. this is now the second year in a row that the g7 has met without russia. another example of russia's isolation. >> reporter: it is also the second year of russia's occupation of crimea and parts of eastern ukraine. raising the question is the west's policy failing? >> the sanctions have had a wigbig impact on the russian academy but it hasn't changed putin's cat includes. we can't rely on sanctions alone. >> reporter: u.s. troops are training ukrainian military in western ukraine. many observers fear russian attempts to fray the western coalition. uninvited to the g7 summit president putin will travel to italy this week to meet prime minister mateo rensy, the only g7 leader silent in criticism of moscow at the summit. and after secretary of state john kerry met with putin in sochi last month, some are even questioning american resolve. so let's look at the map to see what effect the west's policy has had on russia's operations in eastern ukraine in the last year. this is august of 2014. the red areas here controlled by russia. down here at the black sea as well. ukraine still controlling the green areas of the border with russia. let's fast forward ten months to today. russia's controlled areas now expanding here. connecting those areas down to the black sea. and these are russian forces inside ukraine. this is about where m-817 went down last year. russia expanding its influence in the region. no one talks about crimea anymore but crimea has also been under control now for more than a year. the president talks a lot about raising costs on the russian economy. that is definitely happening. the calculus on the ground though has not changed. in fact it's gotten worse. >> so basically, what the president says all the pain that the russian economy has endured, certainly hasn't been translated into any real action as far as ukraine is concerned. >> no no real action on the ground no change in the map. the map has gotten worse. not just russian-controlled areas but the parts of the border that used to be controlled by ukraine, now controlled by russia. makes it a lot easier to get russian weapons across the border and back and forth. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. i want to get to other breaking news. authorities are questioning a woman who worked at a prison in upstate new york where a pair of murderers pull off a daring escape. let's get some more now. our national correspondent jason carroll is on the scene in upstate new york. not far from the canadian border. are what is the very latest as far as this woman is concerned, jason? >> she's definitely a person of concern. this is a woman who has been questioned by authorities. she worked very closely with richard matt and david sweat, knew them very well worked with them tailoring clothes inside the prison. unclear what type of help she may have provided to these two men. but what is clear to investigators, wolf is that these men at the very least had help from the inside. tonight, a female press soonison worker is being questioned as an accomplice with the "shawshank redemption" style escape of two murderers from an upstate new york maximum security prison. >> they needed equipment they wouldn't have had. they had to have the assistance of someone. >> reporter: a massive manhunt is under way for the escapees. >> these are dangerous people. and they're nothing to be trifled with. >> reporter: 35-year-old david sweat serving life without parole for the killing of a police officer in 2002. and his accomplice 49-year-old richard matt who is serving 25 years to life for beating, killing, and dismembering his boss. new york governor andrew cuomo toured the escape route discovered around 5:30 saturday morning after stuffing makeshift dummies into their beds so guards thought they were sleeping. the inmates apparently got access to power tools to cut a hole in their cell. >> must have kept you awake. >> reporter: cutting through solid steel they exited onto a catwalk, from the catwalk they shimmied down a tunnel below. once there they broke through a 24-inch-thick brick wall. then cut through a 24-inch steel pipe which they crawled through. they cut another hole into the city sewer. when they reached a manhole outside the prison wall they cut through its steel lock and chain. finally disappearing into the neighborhood about a block away from the prison. but not before leaving behind this post-it note with the message "have a nice day." both these men were actually housed in the so-called honor block. this is a place inside the prison where inmates who have good behavior are allowed to be housed. they have extra resources inside this particular part of the prison. they have access to washers and dryers tv privileges. because these two men worked with this woman tailoring clothes, because they had access to washers and dryers investigators have to work on the theory that once they were on the outside, they probably changed their clothes and changed their appearances. >> they presumably could get away. how's the community over there in upstate new york reacting to all of this? >> reporter: well i spoke to one woman just earlier this afternoon. caught her as she was getting her baby and putting him back inside the house. and she said her house was searched on friday, excuse me on saturday searched her garage searched her home as well. investigators came by. and i asked her, do you feel safe? do you feel unsafe? and she said, a lot of people thought we were crazy moving so close to a prison she said i actually feel safer now than i did before because so many people have been by here so many law enforcement in the area. she does not believe these two men are in the area at this point. she says she feels safer now than before, but still very tense for a lot of other people who are here in this community. >> i can only imagine. thanks very much jason carroll. let's bring in a former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, our cnn law enforcement analyst, along with cedric alexander, national organization of black law enforcement executives also a cnn law enforcement analyst. matthew horace a former atf special agent in charge. guys thanks very much for joining us. matthew, how worried should the community there in upstate new york be right now? >> well i think they should be very worried on several levels. number one, this was a failure and a compromise in a security system on so many different levels. at the strategic level, prison management they're supposed to be policies in the place to avoid this. at the tactical level. what guard or what employee or what contractor was involved? at tf i'm sure at fbi, we consider these people to be the worst of the worst. so the community should be concerned about their escape and also if this can happen in the future. >> you have no doubt these two murderers, these prisoners, had outside help? >> this was an inside job and an outside job. how did they get information about the architecture of the prison and where did they go and who took them where once they got out? >> do you agree? >> completely. i think because they had to have help with getting the tools and getting the layout of the underground part of that prison. and then on the outside, you don't see just a sudden escape where they run out the door and they're in the woods. this looks like it was planned. they had somebody pick them up probably bring money, a vehicle clothing all set. and that's why by tying this missing escape was discovered in the morning they could have been halfway to chicago, they could have been in canada they could be halfway to mexico. they had a long time for a head start. >> because they got these power tools in their cells, battery operated power tools. that's not an easy thing to do in a maximum security prison tom. >> no that's true. we don't know how they got that. so you have this major investigation at the prison. how did this happen? internally who did what at the prison in terms of employees and contractors? but as importantly, if not more important right now, is what's going on on the outside? because every member of the public that might come across them is in danger. >> and matthew, i actually want to go to said brickcedric how close this prison is to canada, they could have snuck across that border? >> very easily. certainly within a short amount of time too. if you look at the well execution of this plan it has all appearances to be very well planned and executed. to be able to have the schematics it also appears of that prison to be able to move through walls and up and down the interior to a main street. it wouldn't surprise any of us i don't think if there was a car or some vehicle waiting to take them wherever they needed to go. and also would have access to give them what they need to take off from there. so they very well could be in canada. they could be anywhere on the face of the planet to be quite honest with you in the amount of time that they've been gone. i'm more than confident, however that new york state police and all the federal agencies that are involved they're going to find these guise. it's just a matter of time. >> hopefully when they find them before these guys do any more awful, awful things. i want towel of a you to stand by. we're getting more information into "the situation room" right now on what's going on. much more on this escape from prison when we come back. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more. don't just visit new york. visit tripadvisor new york. with 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richard matt told cnn he would not be surprised if matt was more involved in the escape than david sweat. richard matt 49 years old, serving 25 years to life convicted of kidnapping and beating a man to death. his front teeth are metal. the result of getting his teeth knocked out by prison guards in mexico. he's got distinguishing tattoos. a marine insignia logo on his right shoulder, heart-shaped tattoos on his left shoulder and chest. david sweat, here's what we know. 35 years old, serving life without parole convicted of first degree murder in the 2002 killing of kevin tarsia a sheriff's deputy in broom county, new york. we have distinguishing tattoos for david sweat. he's got the one saying "rebel" on his left arm and the letters "ifb" on his right hand. going back to richard matt he's a very interesting case. he's considered maybe the more vicious, the more violent of the two. detectives who have worked on his cases have had very interesting things to say about him. one of themd he's seen him break his own collarbone and not seek medical treatment that he's basically impervious to pain and he really is a psychotic. so his history especially, according to the detectives who worked on that murder case that he was convicted in that he's serving this sentence for, this 1997 murder case say that he is especially a dangerous man. >> which raises the question are those detectives who worked on these two men's cases possibly in danger tonight? >> they could be. one of the detectives told me over the phone he was contacted by police to let them know that richard matt had escaped. another detective who worked on that same 1997 murder case told the "new york times" he is prepared to defend himself if richard matt comes after him. we talked to arnett gaston former chief of rikers island that prison notorious prison in new york he said that a lot of the time when these guys get out it's payback they want they want to go after the guys who put them there. so the detectives who worked on that case could be in some danger tonight. >> all right, thanks very much brian todd for that. let's bring back our experts to discuss all these new developments. cedric alexander, quickly to you. we're being seen right now throughout the united states canada mexico. if somebody out there suspects that they're spotting -- they've spotted one or both of these convicted killers, what should they do? >> immediately, immediately wolf they need to get on the phone to their local authorities, whether in this country or abroad, and notify them and tell them they think they may have identified and they think these subjects may be within their sights. the sooner we're able to get them off the streets wherever they may happen to be the better for everyone that's involved. >> matthew, people should not approach these two guys by any means, right? >> under no circumstances should people like this be approached. dial 911. tell them what you think you see. as a matter of fact, with these kind of individuals, i'd be careful even looking at them twice. because you've got to think, they're fugitives from justice, they know that we're looking at for them they're paying attention to everyone around them. i'd be really concerned that they need to commit other crimes to sustain their run. >> because these two guys tom fuentes, and you've dealt with psychotic killers like this. even if they suspect someone is looking awkwardly toward them they may simply go ahead and kill them. >> yeah very easily could, wolf. and what you have to wonder about here is how well planned the escape part was once they were out of prison. if they end up needing wheels they won't hesitate to carjack somebody and kill them or do a home invasion where they could get cash weapons, and the vehicle, killing a family in the process wouldn't faze them in the least. >> you've got to assume if these guys tom, could get power tools to go in there and break through concrete break through steel, somebody must have been waiting on the outside with civilian clothes, a vehicle money, credit cards, or whatever to drive away. >> you would assume that and you wonder if there isn't more than one somebody. if they split up and had separate people taking care of each of them taking them in different directions possibly. still, a the some point, if they're encountered in a public situation, situation, they're like cornered rats you do not want to deal with it. >> what about the source telling cnn a female employee at the prison is being questioned as a possible accomplice? she knew both of these inmates supposedly according to officials, very well. do you think there's some way this individual, assuming this individual may know something, would speak out? what would the authorities do to convince this individual this woman, to talk shall we say, assuming she was involved and we have no reason to believe she wasn't involved although we have learned she's being questioned. >> assuming that she is involved they're going to go sthu a series of questions with her based on whatever information that they have. and it's no doubt in my mind in that interview with her they're going to make some determination whether she is mildly involved in this or she's very much involved in it. but whatever the case may happen to be it's going to be through that interrogation process with her. there's going to make some determination, whether she's involved it could be others involved as well too that may be internal and/or external to that institution there. but it is very clear and evident, i think, to all of us here wolf, that there's others involved in this case. and it's hard to overlook the fact that someone inside that prison very well may be involved as well too. >> the priority matthew, right now is to find these two guys before they can do any more damage kill anyone else in the process. then after that to learn some lessons. the first time in 170 years that this maximum security prison that someone has broken out of this prison. they've got to learn what happened to make sure it never happens again. >> like everything else in law enforcement and security we've got to develop best practices. go back and examine our strengths and weaknesses. again, this was a failure, a security failure, on so many different levels. i'm sure that contractors will be brought in specialists, to examine how this happened when it happened and to try to make sure that it can't happen again. >> if it can happen at this facility this prison it could happen anywhere. >> it could. i'd like to know about the training and staffing at that prison. so many law enforcement and corrections institutions have had severe budget cuts the last five ten years. have they had a severe cut in their staffing where they can't do the bed checks as diligently as they used to? that's what i'd want to know. what is the procedure at that prison? do they have enough staff to actually maintain that kind of security? 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>> well i mean let's give a little context here. we spent ten years in iraq trying to train up iraqi forces to be able to defend themselves. and they essentially fled and ran when they were confronted by isis. so we've had a long-term problem in having a legitimate capable partner on the ground in iraq. so i don't think it's speaking out of school for the president to admit that without an iraqi military that is able to seriously confront isis willing to do it in places like ramadi and elsewhere, that we don't have a strategy that can effectively work on the ground. nobody that i represent in connecticut wants to put another 100,000 u.s. troops in there so we ultimately need the iraqis maybe with some partners in the region to take control of their military future. but right now, there's a lot of holes in the iraqi defenses. that's just the truth. >> because the u.s. spent a decade arming and training and spending hundreds of billions of dollars training that iraqi military. didn't exactly work out so great. do you have any confidence at all in the iraqi military right now, which is clearly shia-led? >> so i think you've hit the nail on the head here. ultimately you need for the new leader in baghdad to reach out to sunni constituencies to build up a component of the military that is none have shia. in ramadi they did not stand up a sunni military and thus they had no real way to defend that city. you're not going to defend a city of sunnis with a shia military or with a shia-iranian force. that is the other risk here. if we don't reach out and stand up sunni in the iraqi military we're going to be relying on iran to do our fighting there. which is frankly almost more disastrous in the long run than any of the options we're contemplating now. so we've got to play this hard with the iraqis and tell them we're not going to stake around for the next 12 24 months if they're not willing to make their military equal parts shia and sunni. >> you've been working together with others for a long time now to get formal legislation authorizing the use of u.s. military force in this war against isis. based on my latest check, no legislation really has been passed nothing has been sent to the president to sign into law. although he says he would sign something. what's the delay? >> this is hard and a lot of my colleagues are scared of getting into details how we authorize a comprehensive strategy against isis. but it's our responsibility our constitution at obligation as a congress, to tee clair war. and we are at war with isis. it is right now an extra-constitutional war. it has not been authorized by congress. this enemy has not been named by congress. we should get in the game. hopefully later this week in the foreign relations committee we're going to have the opportunity to debate an authorization of military force. there are many of us who want conditions on that authorization, specifically a prohibition on the use of ground forces. president obama has said he's not going to put in tens of thousands of ground troops. i believe him. but if you listen to the republican presidential candidates like jeb bush and marco rubio, they sound like they're willing to put in major u.s. combat troops on the ground. if we authorize this war, then we should do it in a way that abides by everything that we've learn the over the last decade. keep american ground forces out of the middle east. >> as you know the president says he's willing to entertain new legislation, but he says he really doesn't need it. the legislation that passed after 9/11 that's good enough for him. you disagree with him on that? >> yeah i do disagree with the president on this. you know isis is certainly a follow-on organization from al qaeda. but they very specifically disavowed any relationship with al qaeda. and they are formally two separate organizations. and so it is just -- i don't think it really makes sense that you can use the war we declared against al qaeda to also cover isis. if you use that logic, then essentially any terrorist group that has any historical connection with osama bin laden and his main organizers would be covered by that 2001 authorization. we've got to step and up do our job here. that's what we got elected to do. it shouldn't just be up to the executives to decide when we go to war. i support what the president is doing here but i think my constituents should have a say in how this war is conducted. >> do you agree with defense secretary ash carter the iraqi military so far in ramadi, mosul mosul, don't have a will to fight? >> well very clearly the iraqi military broke down and fled as isis started to take control of the northern parts of that country. and al anbar province you saw some of the same thing happen. i understand that for the defense secretary to call out the iraqi military looks somewhat impolitic. but those of us in congress i think can be a little bit less diplomatic and the reality is is that the iraqi military has shown an unwillingness to stand up and fight. and that is really concerning. as i said at the outset we spent ten years training the iraqis. and they weren't capable of fighting. so a lot of us are skeptical of our ability to retrain them over the course of a series of months. they ultimately have to want to do this for themselves and they're not going to do that until they bring in the sunni population to defend themselves rather than just having shia and iranian militia groups fight to protect the sunni population. >> senator chris murphy of connecticut, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks wolf. a new report reveals major security lapses at the tsa. allowing aviation workers get this who themselves are on a terror watch list to stay on the job and operate in secure areas. plus caitlin jenner has been in the news in a big way since "vanity fair" put her on its cover. jenner also surprised people when she told the world she's a republican. which gop presidential contender is now offering his support to jenner? 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that's not their job. you know i think that the president was stunned about it because he had a reason to be. if there was any confusion in congress let congress figure it out. why is this up to the court? >> let's talk about the race for the white house on the republican side. scott walker like some other republican presidential candidates now leaving open the possibility sending more troops into iraq, combat troops boots on ground. how is this going to play in a general election? >> i think it does -- i think iraq does play in a general election and i think it's tricky for both sides. scott walker in this case is basically saying i'm not going to limit myself. i'm not go -- this is something we have heard from republicans over the years. i'm not going to telegraph a timetable and say when i might go out or what i will or won't do. there's that. but this is really a tricky issue. because i think americans want something to be dobne about isis. they want something done. they don't want a full-scale reinvasion. they are open to having some american troops there, trainers and advisors. on the democratic side i think what democrats would want to say is the u.s. shouldn't have been there in the first place. hillary clinton, while she said it was a mistake, she can't -- >> how important is iraq in this race? >> very important. the more the president comes out and says as did he today that there's no strategy to combat isis the more republicans are going to say, you know what we have got a strategy. walker is not the furtherest to the right. you have lindsey graham saying he would send 10,000 combat troops. i think all the republicans are trying to position themselves in a way where they can say actually we have a way to deal with it. >> what makes is complicated is most americans believe the obama strategy have failed. but they believe the bush strategy on iraq failed. the trump card for democrats is to say, do you really want to go back to that? when you polled on that when asked whose fault was iraq, it was divided by bush and obama. >> let me get your thoughts dana bash our chief congressional correspondent interviewed lindsey graham asked about caitlyn jenner. listen to this exchange. >> if caitlyn jenner wants to be safe and have a prosperous economy, vote for me. i'm into addition. i haven't walked in her shoes. i don't have all the answers to the mysteries of life. i can only imagine the torment that bruce jenner went through. i hope she has found peace. i'm a pro-life traditional marriage kind of guy. but i'm running to be president of the united states. if caitlyn jenner wants to be a republican, she is welcome in my party. >> what do you think? >> coming from lindsey graham who is kind of a maverick unpredictable, understands the republican party has to grow in its appeal to younger voters all kinds of voters it didn't really surprise me. i think he is somebody who has always said republicans have to learn how to talk to women better. they have to learn how to broaden out. >> addition. >> he needs to -- >> that was striking how forthrightly he said that. the biggest hurdle facing republicans is cultural affinity and the sense that more the democrats have more groups that they share cultural values. a real challenge for republicans. >> it just shows that he is saying i think what a lot of people are saying what a lot of republicans believe, they need to broaden certainly their acceptance of the lgbt community. >> this is a senator from conservative south carolina. >> we have to leave it. we will continue these conversations. that's it for me. erin burnett out front starts right now. breaking news. an international man hupthunt under way for two killers. they staged a prison break you thought you would only see in the movies. they question an employee that could have helped them get out. a police officer pulls his gun at kids at a pool party. a man who was there saw the whole thing and has a strong point you view. we have video, isis iraqi troops and a fire fight. our correspondent there under fire. let's go "out front." good

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and russia in ukraine. i'm joined by chris jansing. good morning. let's start with isis. >> good morning. yeah counterterrorism was the big focus this morning. and the special guest, as they're being called were the leaders of tunisia, nigeria, and as you said iraqi prime minister. obvious obviously, he's key to the fight against isis, and he's essentially come asking for more help. he says he needs additional assistance, and the white house made it clear even before the start of this g-7 that that would not be forthcoming. no announcements will be made here. he did get some good news from british crimeprime minister david cameron who said the uk will send about 125 more trainers to help with the iraqi army. remember, this is the first time that the president and abadie have seen each other since the comments from defense secretary carter that he didn't think the iraqi military was showing, quote, a will to fight. also the announcement since no new aid, and i guess there was an awkward moment when all the g-7 leaders were outside and the president was sitting on a bench with christina lagarde, who is head of the monetary fund and renzi, the prime minister of italy, and you can see that prime minister abadie is trying to get his attention both when he's sitting on the bench and later when they stand up he's hanging around. looks like he wants to inject himself into the conversation and gives a shrug and walks away. some people are interpreting this as a snub. we should point out earlier in the day, he was part of the g-7 meeting so had a chance to shake hands with all those folks. he does have as you mentioned, that one-on-one meeting later today. we'll hear the president's take obthat in a press conference later. >> looking at the video, really odd, like the prime minister is looking at his watch, like what's next? nothing is next with you, buddy. chris, talk to me about what other issues will be discussed at the summit. >> they actually come out with and this is part of what they do every year a communique that sort of outlines what the big things are and what you're going to see is something that angela merkel has been really pushing, which is getting the stage set for a big climate change conference that's coming up at the end of the year in paris. she wants deliverables commitments from the countries that she can take to paris and say we're all going to get together and do something about that. she's already been talking about that this morning. the other big thing that's going to come out, they're sending a unified message to vladimir putin who was persona nongrata for the second year in a row, you better watch yourself in ukraine because we're going to continue sanctions and we just heard from angela merkel if he doesn't, they're willing to increase the sanctions. >> chris jansing with what is probably the best backdrop on tv today. >> ever. >> you're right. we're going to bring you the president's news conference from germany live next hour. now to a developing story out of upstate new york. a massive manhunt under way for two convicted killers who escaped from the maximum security section of a prison over the weekend. a $100,000 reward offered for information leading to the capture of david sweat and richard matt. authorities say the pair cut through steel walls and pipes with power tools, possibly over the course of several days to make their daring escape from the clinton correctional facility. here's new york governor andrew cuomo this morning. >> they could be anywhere in the country by now. one of the individuals had experience in mexico. they could be headed down south. the prison is about 25 miles from canada. they could have been headed that way. so we're covering all bases. we also have a very intensive search stim in that area. there's a chance they didn't have transportation or haven't acquired an automobile. >> john yang is live outside the prison in dannemora, new york. what's the latest on the search for the two guys? >> well jose as you heard the governor say, they have extended alerted officials in canada, in mexico in the southwest, next door in vermont. they have about 250 state and federal law enforcement officials conducting this search here in new york state. and they say that their main goal is to get these two guys back behind prison bars. these are very dangerous individuals. the state police ask that the public take no chances, make no efforts to apprehend them and report any suspicious activity. if you see something, say something. >> they have gotten about more than 150 tips on the whereabouts of these guys. they say they're following each of them up but they still have no idea where they are, whether they're still in this area whether they have moved elsewhere in the state, whether they have crossed a border either to the north, to the east, or to the south. they still don't know whether they're still together or whether they have split up. they presume they had help on the inside to get out, and they may have had help once they got out as well. jose. >> john yang thank you very much. how the heck you get some power tools in prison that's another question. thanks for being with me. >> we're bringing in clint van zandt. good morning. >> good morning to you, jose. >> how weird of a story is this? how do you get out of a maximum security prison with power tools? >> you know if these guys weren't such terrible killers, this would really be the basis of a movie, and it probably will anyway. two different ways to get power tools. number one, there are tools inside the prison but these are supposed to be kept very close. you sign them in sign them out when you're working. but there's also construction crews that have been inside. realize, this prison is 170 years old. so there's a lot of work being done. so as the governor cuomo suggested this morning, likely help inside likely help outside. in fact, there's been a female employee that possibly had a relationship with one of the two men, that has already been pulled from the prison and is being questioned as to did she aid these two men or not. >> and then they leave behind have a nice day notes. hey, clint, what are you looking at if you're looking to where these two guys could have gone? whether they got assistance inside the prison or not, what is it you're looking for when you're searching for these two guys? >> smart money would say if these two guys got out, obviously, they did. when they get out, they go two different directions. we're looking for two guys. they would want to split apart, head different directions. maybe one north, one south. something such as this. but again, they could have just stayed in the local area broken into a house, hiding out in a barn and hunkered down waiting for the heat to go away from the area. or, they could have jumped in a car and they could be what 2,025 miles away in the last couple days. these are all the issues that all of these investigators have to cover. that's why the u.s. marshal service and the fbi is involved. you have to look from the canadian border to the mexican border somewhere in between amongst, you know millions of other americans are these two killers who are very likely and very capable, at least, to be able to commit similar crimes trying to facilitate their continued escape. >> clint, thank you very much. we'll continue monitoring the developments out of upstate new york and bring you the latest as we get them. i want to turn to texas where this morning a police officer is on administrative leave after this video surfaced after a confrontation with teenagers near a neighbor pool. richard lui has the details. >> this is what happened after police say they were responding to a disturbance and reports of teens fighting near a pool party posted on twitter. the texas police officer unholt unholtstered his gun as teenagers run. then -- >> on your face. >> pushes a teenager's head into the ground. this video was viewed at a rate close to 300,000 an hour sunday which led to this post on the police department's facebook. it says one of the responding officers has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of this investigation. the video getting the attention appears to be midstream in a longer time span. we don't know what happened before the recording began, but it starts with the officer in question appearing to trip while in pursuit. get on the ground i told you to stay. get down on the knround. >> he catches up and scolds some teenagers. >> don't make me [ bleep ] run around here. >> and tells a group of girls to leave. notice the one in the orange bathing suit and the man in the beige shirt. the officer pulls the girl in the orange bikini to the ground. >> on your face. >> pushes her head into the ground. dragging her. putting both his knees on her back. after onlookers scream he unholsters his gun as two young males run. two officers rush over. one appears his to put his hand on the ranking officer's shoulder. moments later, one of the young people who ran is led back. possible discoloration around his mouth. as it calms, the officer explains part of what went wrong. >> what everybody else did was illegal. you did it and you got caught. the controversial video ends after that but not on social media. none of this would happen if they had simply complied with the officer's demands. this, the scary part about police brutality is you can't even call 911 for help. >> and msnbc reached out to the mcckinney police department and they provided us with a breakdown and confirmed one of the officers is put on leave. the mayor said i'm disturbed and concerned about the incident detikted in the video. we'll ask relative to the situation they're faced with. we'll be following the story and have much more throughout today's rundown. >> former olympian oscar pistorius could soon be out of jail. this morning, a parole board has recommended his release to a 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conceal past misconduct. he's charged with trying to evade banking requirements and then lying to the fbi. >> did you ever have any indication that any abuse was going on? >> none whatsoever. >> vic gauer graduated from yorkville high in 1975. hastert had been his wrestling coach and scout leader. >> until more comes out, i'm still going to believe he's a good person. >> the sister of an alleged hastert victim tells nbc news she hopes more victims comes forward. a friend and class mate of reinbold said he confided in him in 1974 that he had sexual encounters with hastert years earlier. >> he said we would do things sexually. >> by the time hastert left congress, a series of land deals had made him a multimillionaire. this shows the clients paid the firm he worked for more than $11 million. an advocacy group is now calling for hastert's portrait to be removed from the capitol. tomorrow, hastert is schedules to join a long line of illinois politicians who have marched into federal court in chicago to face criminal charges. right now, it's unclear exactly who will represent him because, jose, the attorney listed in court records for him still has not commented either. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. >> i want to turn now to the 2016 presidential race. seven republican hopefuls were in iowa over the weekend. all of them had either declared a run for the white house or are expected to do so in the next couple weeks. it was inaugural roast and ride fund-raiser hosted by joni ernst. one of those, scott walker, even rode in on his harley. casey hunt was there. she's in new york this morning. was anyone able to stand out from the motorcycle pack? >> well jose this could end up being the biggest political event in iowa of the summer. you had two candidates on motorcycles. you had two candidates chopping pork. but really the challenge was standing out. hogs pork and plenty of red meat. >> i really would be tempted on the general election debate stage to ask hillary if she's ever ridden on a john deere tractor. >> let me tell you to hillary clinton, your definition of flat broke and mine are a little different. >> joni ernst gathered seven presidential contenders in boone, iowa saturday for her first annual roast and ride. airth months before the state's caucuses. >> huckabee. >> governor of texas. >> the challenge was standing out. rick perry riding with veterans taking it all in. >> smell of grass being cut. >> living free riding free being with american here es. >> scott walker stopping to remember d-day on the invasion's 71st anniversary. >> let's remember those that gave the ultimate sacrifice. >> walker was the only one to ride to boone withernest. >> i don't think i'll have a shot at that one. >> also on stage, marco rubio, one of the first to help ernst in her campaign ride. she offered him a ride because she's he's never been on one. >> my mom used to traumatize us about them. >> rubio also spoke to a packed ballroom at the holiday inn. he stayed there to save money and to try to show iowans he's just like them. >> miami dolphins. >> you won't find that many miami dolphins fans in iowa. >> you think iowa is a good place for the republican process to start? >> absolutely. >> from a demographic ss standpoint it's not reflective of the whole country. >> everyday americans who live in the middle part of the country facing the same challenges and struggles as people everywhere else. >> rubio hasn't spent too much time in iowa since announcing his presidential bid, but there was a lot of interest in meeting him. i think governor scott walker really stood out. you saw him on the harley there with joni ernst, almost his event in many ways. >> and casey, talk to me about walker after this. you followed him throughout the weekend. what's a headline from his iowa trip? >> i talked to him briefly about a couple things. he talked a little bit about how he got on a bike. he has the harley davidson bug. heones a '03 harley. he said they looked like bullet holes, i talked to him about hillary clinton who had attacked republicans for implementing restrictions on voting rights. he also did several interviews including one with john carl where he talked about iraq. >> i believe right now we have a capacity to reclaim iraq with the iraqi forces there, as long as we unleash the power that is already there of the american armed forces. >> you say you wouldn't rule out anything. would you rule out a full-blown u.s. reinvasion of iraq and syria? >> i don't think we should ever send a message to our foes as to how far we're willing to go. >> so you wouldn't rule out a full blown reinvasion. >> i wouldn't rule out boots on the ground. >> i'm asking about a full-blown invasion of iraq. >> if the interests of this country are at stake, that's to me the standard of what we do for military engagement. >> refusing to rule out the possibility of reinvading iraq. that's indicative of where the republican field is 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g-8 into the g-7. he's still a big part of the summit going on as leaders try to figure out how to check his military's aggression in ukraine. putin says he's not a threat to the west but leaders say sanctions should stay in place until russian-backed rebels pull back from the front lines. >> russia has essentially thumbed their nose at the commitments they made in the context of the negotiations. and russia's failure to live up to those commitments is what leads to their increasing isolation and the increasing costs being imposed on their economy. >> william taylor served as u.s. ambassador to ukraine. he's currently at the lycurrently. the big push is to keep sanctions in place, but have they been effective? russia doesn't seem to be that concerned about them or am i wrong? >> i think russia is very concerned about them. you see the attempt on the part of mr. putin and his people to try to split the europeans. he knows that the europeans have to be unanimous in their extension of these sanctions through the end of the year so he's been trying to split them off and going after the weaker links. so they're clearly affecting. i believe they have affected mr. putin's behavior. he has not pushed further in a major invasion of ukraine, and probably knowing that sanctions can be increased as well as decreased. >> but let's talk about some of the things he hasn't done. he hasn't clearly really respected the minsk agreement. the situation on the border is very destabilized. it doesn't seem a lot of countries in eastern europe think russia is really behind the border and not to worry about, in other words, what heas he done to curtail what we think as an expansionist policy and view? >> he haas not done those things. we clearly still has the capability and the possibility, and who knows, maybe the intention of further expansion. he has not done what he promised he would do in the minsk agreement. his soldiers are still there. ukrainians have captured a couple russian soldiers and prot brought them to kiev and they have confessed. they know nay have demonstrated to the world that they're russian soldiers who were sent to that part. he has not pulled his soldiers out and leaders and equipment out of southeastern ukraine. that needs to happen in order for the sanctions to even be considered to be removed. >> and ambassador finally, what is it you think, that could or should be done in the future that maybe is not being done to deal with the threat of russia to some of those countries that are big american allies number one, and also believe in the right to determine their own future and not have the russians threatening their border in the future? >> that is absolutely the key. these countries deserve the right to make their own decisions. one of the things that is not being done that needs to be done is further support, heavy support, financial support for the ukrainians. i was in kiev two days ago and talking to the finance minister. she's trying to negotiate a deal that would reduce the debt that international creditors have that are holding, there's an american investment firm that is leading that and that american investment firm could do a major benefit, make a major benefit for ukraine by reducing the debt. that's one of the things that we really should be pushing for. >> crewukraine is in need of all the assistance you can get with you have such a behemoth looking at your shoulder all the time. thank you for being with me. appreciate your time. gr thank you. >> we're waiting for president obama's news conference just about a half hour from now. we'll bring that to you live. ukraine one of the issues discussed at the g-7 meeting. now back to the information involving police and a pool party gone wrong. we know the namef the police officer, it's officer eric casebold. he was put on leave after this video appeared online. we don't know what happened before the recording began. that's important, but we do see officer casebold throwing a 14-year-old girl down to the ground. then pulling his service weapon on two boys. joy reid is following the story. what else do we know? >> good morning. we do know there was a party that was thrown by a woman who actually lives in this complex in mckinney, texas. and according to dominique alexander, who runs an organization called the next generation action network and who is in contact with the mother and daughter involved the young woman who appears to be a high school student. she's about 18 years old, threw a party with her younger sister. it was an end of the school year party at which they invited an interracial group of friends, according to the network. and then according to that organization, a pair of women, adult women, white women, objected to the party and began berating some of the children who were at the party who were as young as 14. according to the organization a 14-year-old girl was being behated when the daughter the girl throwing the party, intervened and then at least according to the group, was struck by one of the women. they're saying that there was fighting, there was physical altercations between adults and children at which time police were called. when the police got there, you then see some of the video that you're playing now that is all over social media. you have to understand there were lots of people with phones lots of people uploading video of what they say happened. i spoke with the father of the only person who was arrested a young man, who says the police officer in question eric casebold, drew a gun on him, and then later he was chased down and arrested placed to seat on the grass. he has been bonded out. these parents are now lawyering up. they're hiring attorneys and contemplating legal action. >> do we know why -- what were the charges? why was he arrested? >> according to the family charged with interfering with an officer. this organization is going to make demands today, hold a news conference in which they're going to demand the charges be dropped and the officer be both charged and fired from the police department. >> joy reid thank you. we'll bring you much more on the story right here on today's edition of "the rundown." >> now to mexico and yesterday's midterm elections. protests continue. teachers and other clashing with police demanding reforms and answered in the disappearance of 43 college students last september. they have been setting ballot boxes on fire all last week. the election was largely seen as a referendum on mexico's president, despite the outrage, it appears his political party will hold on to power with a slim majority in the lower house of congress. however, in a wake-up call for all political parties, the state appears to have elected the first independent governor ever in mexico's history. jaime rodriguez. we'll have much more on mexico's historic elections and what the o it means for us here coming up next on "the rundown." want to tell you about a chemical plant fire and flooding that hits louisiana in today's top story zoom. check out these incredible images out of pennsylvania. a fire burned out of control at a chemical warehouse. look at that. dark plumes of smoke into the sky. reports of explosions in the area as police ordered residents in a mile radius to stay in place. no injuries have been reported. chaos in new jersey outside of met life stadium. cops in riot gear swarmed the hot 97 summer jam concert after security officials say some people were trying to force in without tickets. some people in the crowds outside were allegedly climbing fences and trying to force their way through security. that's when the gates were closed and troopers were called in to help maintain order. authorities used tear gas to try to disperse the crowd that was reportedly throwing bottles at them. some rates made. >> in louisiana, flooding over the weekend forces dozens of residents to evacuate. the red river rose almost 37 feet in the state. that's 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sanders. >> the 10-year-old boy was barely in waist deep water, according to witnesses, at a popular spot off cocoa beach when the shark adaced tearing into his leg. >> got bit twice. so the shark bit, released bit, released, realized he was not fish. >> lifeguards heard screaming, ran into water and pulled him to safety. >> trauma alert from a shark bite. >> because of the sueverity of the bite he was air lifted to a hospital in orlando. witnesses say he was attacked by what they believe was a bull shark, similar to the 20 we encountered a week ago when we took our live cameras in search of a great white. >> i don't think i have really ever seen anything quite like this in the wild where i'm so close. >> beautiful to look at but so dangerous when sharks and humans get too close. kerry sanders, nbc news miami. >> kerry, thanks for that report. we've also got other news to cover this morning. i want to take you to north carolina where the battle over same-sex emergencymarriage and religious freedom is coming to a head. they can can canould meet after the state senate voted to over ride a bill. the governor allowed a bill that would deny some same-sex couples to marry because of religious beliefs. ellen is live in north carolina. where does the situation stand today? >> so we're waiting for members of north carolina's republican controlled state house of representatives to convene tonight at 7:00 p.m. where they could vote on one of the more aggressive pieces of religious freedom legislation we have seen yet. this would allow magistrates and registers of deeds to opt out of performing any marriage they feel violates their sincerely held religious belief. unlike a religious freedom law in indiana which became the subject of widespread condemnation earlier, this applies to magistrates, those officials who do perform marriages and issue marriage licenses and critics foresee instances where this bill actually affects more couples than just same-sex couples. there could be scenarios in which magistrates claim an objection to an interfaith or interracial marriage. the governor did veto this bill but the state senate voted to override the veto last week. lawmakers in the house, republicans in the house, have a three fifth veto proof majority so they'll be watching the body closely, because once they vote to override, this bill becomes law. >> i want to bring in executive director of equality north carolina chris, thanks zs for being with me. you describes the bill as discriminatory. what is your biggest concern? >> our biggest concern is two fold. sb-2 is not only a direct affront to the lgtb community saying magistrates don't have to perform their job specifically for same-sex couples but it's also going to limit access to marriage for all couples across the state. it's discriminatory directly against the lgbt community, but it creates much more widespread problems. >> mau so? >> there are deep unintended consequences. as you said on the lead-in, this could mean that magistrates can refuse to conduct same-sex -- marriages for interfaith interracial couples and in order to try to provide some structure to that the people who crafted this bill said okay we're going to limit access to marriage for everybody across the state. >> has any magistrate ever done that in the state? >> yes. >> good to know. >> in 1976 there was an interracial couple that came the persons who came in forsythe county, and sought a marriage license there, and they were denied by a magistrate based on his religious belief. we know this has been a problem in the state's history, we knowdiscriminatory, and we can't codify it. >> what do you go if the house goes along with the senate? it's done, right if the veto is overridden? >> i think we'll, you know at that point, assess next steps and take a real hard look at the constitutionality of this legislation. i will say, though that we are really hopeful that the house will not do that and will sustain the 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the united states, at least at this conference is not willing to give. also the final communique which is that statement of purpose which comes out. you were speaking a few minutes ago with steve clemens about things like climate change but i thought one interesting thing that's come out of this is they're taking a close look at corruption and the impact it has. that would include things like what we saw with soccer with fifa, and the argument being made by some of these leaders that it is corruption that lays the groundwork for terrorism. those questions will be aimed at the president, including, i'm guessing, some questions about earlier this morning when all the g7 leaders were together outside and the president was with prime minister renzi of italy and the head of the international monetary fund and we saw prime minister badi trying to get their attention. didn't seem to have much luck at that. it seemed to be a little bit of an uncomfortable moment so we'll see if he gets a question on that as well. >> chris, we look at the video, and what i saw there is the president with the italian leader and the head of the imf. they were having a discussion before they got up. now, the other two gentlemen, including the prime minister of iraq were there. they weren't even part of that conversation, so when you get up they continue the conversation. i don't think they even notice these two guys want to get in on the conversation, and i'm thinking that conversation was pretty intense to all of a sudden say, hey, let's bring in these two guys who haven't been a part it have in the last two minutes. look at that. these guys aren't in the conversation. >> i think that's what the white house said it was uncomfortable to watch. outside something this huge we've been in that situation all of us when you're trying to get somebody's attention and they're deeply involved in a conversation right? i should also point out that they all saw each other earlier in the day because prime minister obadi went into a general g7 meeting before he went one on one with the president. but there are some tensions going on. he had to look to david cameron to get some of the extra help he wanted in the fight against isis the uk pledging 125 trainers for iraqi forces. so i think this is an optical problem maybe more than anything. but again, let's hear what the president has to say. >> i would love to know what those three people were talking about, the leader of italy, the imf and president obama. here's a tip from the iraqi prime minister because it's happened with me and chris jantzy. i just barge in. i just go chris, i need you. i don't care if there's a conversation going on i just barge in. >> maybe you need to speak to the prime minister of iraq on your point here. i'm always surrounded by lots of people. >> you are. >> and the mountains. >> and the beautiful site right where you are. chris, thank you for being with me. always a pleasure to see you. i want to bring back in our msnbc contributor. ambassador let's start with you. what do you think the inability of talking with putin has on the united states and how we deal with russia? >> it defines how you define the inability to deal with putin. if you define him keeping him out of there, i think they've succeeded. they need to stay a course aimed at deterring him from russia. nobody in the obama administration has any illusions that sanctions after one year will get him to leave ukraine. i think the fear has been that this war would escalate. today they're sending a message of staying the course. >> and by the way, gentlemen, in just a couple seconds, we expect that news conference to start. i'm going to have to rudely interrupt you when it does. steve, let's talk about that because one of the things that comes out of the points of this meeting they just released is that reaffirmed sanctions on russia can be rolled back only after the minsk agreement is respected. so far russia hasn't dealt with minsk or anything else right? >> no, i think russia decided to absorb the cost of the means, but there are a lot of things russia could be doing right now very broadly beyond kiev muldova, in the baltics. it's doubled the number of bombers it has skirting the u.s. air space, so we don't know what we achieved with russia in the sense we continue to deter them in a lot of ways. >> go ahead, sorry. i was going to say, ambassador, let's talk about ukraine spifblg, because they have, as you you said, does the policy go into kiev? no. they have control and they certainly haven't lost control of their border area. is there something ukraine could get as far as assistance to deal with this real threat to their independence? >> if you were joking about the conversation between president obama and the imf, i was hoping that conversation would be about ukraine. because for me in the near future, the real drama in ukraine is not about closing that border which i don't think is likely. i also don't think it's about a major war with russia i don't think that's likely. what i do think is real drama is whether or not the ukranian economy can recover, whether they can succeed to the forums they pledge. that's going to be the main trouble, and in kiev that's the focus they would like to see more attention from the g7 and the rest of the world. >> and steve, why hasn't the rest of the world come to the realization that ukraine needs to survive and that their economy has been directly affected by a foreign power? >> because while people have good intentions and would love to see ukraine float away from this ukraine is right next to russia ukraine's economy is imploding. there are a lot of problems there. so throwing good money after bad is something that crosses the minds of many. so when you look and compare ukraine to say, greece which is also having trouble from europe which is in a -- you know essentially maybe not an economic tailspin in europe but certainly an economic paralysis in europe it makes these hard decisions tough for europe to take. so i think the broader issue is not just ukraine. they also sort of need to ask, what is the broader gain and strategy with russia elsewhere in the world? are we going to have a strategic discussion with them about our interests and their interests that makes sure that this virus that we see has started in ukraine doesn't spread elsewhere. so i think it's important to think that europe's paralysis here is based on not seeing -- >> i have to interrupt you for the president's conference. >> i thank the people of bavaria in germany for their hospitality at the g7 summit. my stay here has been extraordinary. i wish i could stay longer, and one of the plurzeasures of being president is scouting out places that you want to come back to where you don't have to spend all your time in a conference room. the setting is breathtaking. our german friends have been absolutely wonderful, and the success of this summit is attributea tribute to their outstanding work. the g7 is many countries in the world. it embraces some of our allies and closest friends in the world. so even as we work to promote the growth that creates jobs and opportunity, we're also here to stand up for the fundamental principles that we share as democracyies for freedom, for peace, for the right of nations and peoples to decide their own destiny, for our universal human rights and the dignity of every human being. i'm pleased that here in krun we showed the most depressing u.s. strategies america stands united. we agree that the best way to sustain the global economic recovery is by focusing on jobs and growth. that's what i'm focused on in the united states. on friday we learned that our economy created another 280,000 jobs in may, the strongest month of the year so far, and more than 3 million new jobs over the past year. nearly the fastest pace in over a decade. we have now seen five straight years of private sector job growth 12.6 million new jobs created, the longest streak on record. the unemployment rate is near its lowest level in seven years. wages for american workers continue to rise and since i took office the united states has cut our deficit by two-thirds. so in the global economy, america's major source of strength. at the same time, we recognize that the global economy while growing is still not performing at its full potential. and we agreed on a number of necessary steps. here in europe we support efforts to find a path that enables greece to carry out key reforms and return to growth within a strong stable and growing eurozone. i updated my partners on our effort with congress to pass trade promotion authority so we can move ahead with tpp and the asian pacific region and ttip here in europe. agreements with high standards to protect workers, public safety and the environment. we continue to make progress toward a strong global climate agreement, this year in paris. all the g7 countries have now put our post-2020 targets for reducing carbon emissions and we'll continue to submit other emitters as well. we'll help developing countries transfer to low carbon growth. as we've done in the u.s. the g7 agreed on the need to integrate climate risk in development systems and programs across the board and access to risk assurance to help developing countries respond to and recover from climate-related disasters. and building on the power of africa initiative i launched two years ago, the g7 will work for more financing on clean energy projects in africa. with respect to security the g7 remains in strong support for ukraine. we'll continue to provide economic support and technical assistance that ukraine needs as it moves ahead on critical reforms to transform its economy and strengthen its democracy. as we've seen in recent days russian forces continue to operate in eastern ukraine, violating ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. this is now the second year in a row that the g7 has met without russia, another example of russia's isolation. and every member of the g7 continues to maintain sanctions on russia for its aggression against ukraine. now, it's important to recognize the russian economy has been seriously weakened. the ruble and foreign investment is down the foreign bank has lost more than $150 billion in reserves reserves. russian banks are literally locked out of russian markets. they are struggling to support what they need for energy projects. russia is indeed in a recession. so russian's actions in ukraine are hurting russia and hurting the russian people. here at the g7 we agreed that even as we will continue to seek a diplomatic solution sanctions against russia will remain in place so long as russia continues to violate its obligations under the minsk agreements. our european partners maintain they will keep sanctions on russia until things are implemented and that means territorial sanctions beyond july. and the g7 is making clear that if necessary we stand to impose additional sanctions against russia. beyond europe we discussed the negotiations over iran's nuclear program, and we remain united heading into the final stages of the talks. iran has historic opportunity for concerns about its nuclear program and we agree that iran needs to seize that opportunity. our discussions with prime minister obadi of iraq president asepsi of tunisia were a chance to address the threats of isis and bo coko haran. as many of the world's leading partners in development joined by the leaders of ethiopia liberia and the african union, we discussed how to maximize the development of our partnerships. we agreed to have landmark food and attrition, part of the ability to lift thousands of people out of hunger and malnutrition by 2030. we'll continue to work with our partners in west africa to get ebola cases down to zero and as part of our global health security agenda, i'm pleased that the g7 made a major commitment to help over 60 countries in the next five years achieve specific targets to better prevent, detect and respond to future outbreaks before they become epidemics. finally, i want to commend chancellor merkel for making sure this summit included expanding educational and economic opportunities for women and girls. the g7 committed to expand career training for women in our own countries and increase technical and vocational training in developing countries, which will help all of our nations prosper. so again, i want to thank agula and the people of germany for their extraordinary hospitality. america and our closest allies stand shoulder to shoulder. with that i will take some questions, and i will start off with jeff mason. >> thank you, mr. president. after your meetings here you mentioned greece in your opening statement. do you believe that the europeans are being too tough on greece in these talks, and what else needs to be done on both sides to ensure there is a deal and to ensure that there 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it's going to be important for the international community and the international financial agencies to recognize the extraordinary challenges that greece faced, and both sides -- if both sides are showing flexibility, then i think we can get it resolved. but it will require tough decisions for all involved and we will continue to consult with all the parties involved to try to encourage that kind of outcome. >> do you think it will happen before the deadline? >> i think everybody wants to make it happen and they're working hard to get it done. debra? >> thank you, mr. president. how frustrated are you that after you personally raised your concerns about cybersecurity with the chinese president that a massive attack on u.s. personnel files seems to have originated from china? was the chinese government involved? and separately, as a sports fan, can you giffve us your reaction to the fifa scandal? >> with respect to fifa i cannot comment on a pending case by our attorney general. i will 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the private sector. this is why it's so important that congress moves forward on passing cyber legislation that we've been pushing for. why, over the last several years, i've been standing up new mechanisms inside government for us to investigate what happens and to start finding more effective solutions. part of the problem is that we've got very old systems. and we discovered this new breach in obm precisely because we've initiated this process of inventorying and upgrading these old systems to address existing vulnerabilities. and what we are doing is going agency by agency and figuring out what can we fix with better practices and better computer hygiene by personnel? and where do we need new systems and new infrastructure in order to protect information, not just government employees or government activities but also most importantly, where there is an interface between government and the american people. and this is going to be a big project and we're going to have to keep on doing it because both state and non-state actors are sending everything they've got at trying to breach these systems. in some cases, it's non-state actors who are engaging in criminal activity and potential theft. in the case of state actors they're probing for intelligence, or in some cases, trying to bring down systems in pursuit of their various foreign policy objectives. in either case we're going to have to be much morae aggressive much more attentive than we have been. this problem is not going to go away it's going to accelerate. that means we have to be as nimble as aggressive and as resourced as those trying to break into the systems. justin? >> thank you mr. president. i want to ask about two things that were on the agenda of the g7 this weekend. the first is the islamic state. you said yesterday in your meeting with prime minister cameron you assessed what was working and what wasn't. i'm wondering what was not working against the fight of the islamic state. and today the bilateral body stepped up, i'm wondering if that includes personnel. and chancellor merkel was pleased that you gave authority. does that mean it went through the house, and if it doesn't, what do you plan to achieve for the remainder of your time in office? >> for the latter question i'm not going to hypothesize about getting it done i plan to get it done. hopefully we'll get a vote soon because i think it's the right thing to do. with respect to isil we have made significant progress in pushing back isil from areas in which they had occupied or disrupted local populations. but we've also seen romadi where they're displaced in one place and they come back in another. they're nimble they're aggressive and they're op opportunistic. one of the areas we have to improve is the speed at which we train iraqi forces. where we've trained them and equipped them and have assist in the posture, they operate effectively. where we haven't, morale lack of equipment, et cetera may undermine the effectiveness of iraqi security forces. so we want to get more iraqi security forces trained, fresh, well equipped and focused. and president obadi wants the same thing. so we're reviewing a range of plans for how we might do that essentially accelerating the number of iraqi forces that are properly trained and equipped and have a focuslk focused strategy with leadership. when a finalized plan is presented to me by the pentagon then i will share it with the american people. we don't yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the iraqis as well about how recruitment takes place, how that training takes place. so the details of that are not yet worked out. >> would you say that additional u.s. military personnel are part of what's under consideration? >> i think what is fair to say is that all the countries in the international coalition are prepared to do more to train iraqi security forces if they feel like that additional work has been taken advantage of. and one of the things we're still seeing is in iraq places where we've got more training capacity than we have recruits. so part of my discussion with prime minister obadi was how do we make sure we get more recruits in? a big part of the answer there is our outreach to sunni tribes. we've seen sunni tribes who are not only willing and prepared to fight isil but who have been successful at rebuffing isil. but it has not been happening as fast as it needs to. so one of the efforts that i'm hoping to see out of prime minister obadi and the iraqi legislature when they're in session is to move forward on a national guard wall that would help to devolve some of the security efforts in places like umbar security folks and get those folks moving more rapidly. this is what helped defeat aqi, the precursor to isil during the iraq war in 2006. without that local participation, even if you have short-term success, it's very hard to hold those areas. the other area where we've got to make a lot more progress is on stemming the flow of foreign fighters. now, you'll recall that i hosted a u.n. generals security council meeting specifically on this issue. and we've made some progress but not enough. we are still seeing thousands of foreign fighters flowing into first syria and then oftentimes ultimately into iraq and not all of that is preventable but a lot of it is preventable if we've got better cooperation, better coordination better intelligence, if we are monitoring what's happening at the turkish syria border more effectively. this is an area where we've been seeking deeper cooperation with turkish authorities who recognize it's a problem, but haven't fully rampded up the capacity that they need. this is something i think we have to spend a lot of time on. if we can cut off some of that foreign fighter flow then we're able to isolate and wear out isil sources that are already there because we're taking a lot of them off the battlefield. but if they're being replenished, then it doesn't solve the problem over the long term. the final point i emphasized to prime minister obadi is the critical agenda of inclusion remains as important as the military fight that's out there. if sunnis kurds and shia all feel as if their concerns are being addressed and that operating within a legitimate political structure can meet their need for security prosperity, non-discrimination, then we're going to have a much easier time. the good news is prime minister obadi is very much committed to that principle, but obviously he's in herheriting a legacy of mistrust in iraq. their efforts to undermine those issues in iraq we need to support those on the right side of the issue. colleen nelson. >> thank you, mr. president. you mentioned that the u.s. and its european allies have reached a consensus on extending the sanctions against russia. is there a consensus, though about what specifically the next step should be if russia continues to violate the minsk agreement? and also can you deter russian aggression in other parts of eastern europe without a permanent u.s. two presidents. and i wanted to ask you about the court battle on actions of immigration could extend late into your term. do you think there's anything more you can do from the people that would have benefited from that program and are now in limbo, and how do you view the possibility of your term ending without accomplishing your goals on immigration? >> on ukraine and russia and minsk, there is strong consensus that we need to keep pushing russia to abide by the terms of a minsk agreement. we need to continue to encourage and support ukraine to meet its obligations under minsk. that until that's completed, sanctions remain in place. there was discussion about additional steps that we might need to take if russia working through separatists, double down on aggression inside of ukraine. those discussions are taking place at a technical level, not yet at a political level, because i think the first goal here going into a european council meeting that's coming up is just rolling over the existing sanctions. but i think at a technical level, we want to be prepared. our hope is that we don't have to take additional steps, because the minsk agreement is met. and i want to give enormous credit to chancellor merkel along with president long who have shown extraordinary sticktuitiveness and patience in trying to get that done. ultimately this is going to be an issue for mr. putin. he's got to make a decision does he continue to wreck his country's economy and continue russia's isolation in pursuit of a wrong-headed desire to recreate the glories of the soviet empire or does he recognize that russia's greatness does not depend on violating the territorial integrity and sovereignty of other countries. and as i mentioned earlier, the costs that the russian people are bearing are severe. that's being felt. it may not always be understood why they're suffering because of state media inside of russia and propaganda coming out of state media in russia and to russian speakers. but the truth of the matter is that the russian people would greatly benefit, and ironically one of the rationales that mr. putin provided for his entrance into ukraine was to prevent russian speakers there. russian speakers inside of ukraine are precisely the ones bearing the brunt of the fighting. their economy has collapsed, their lives are disordered many of them are displaced, their homes may have been destroyed. they're suffering. and the best way for them to stop suffering is if the minsk agreement is fully implemented. christy -- oh immigration. with respect to immigration, obviously i'm frustrated by a district court ruling that is now winding its way through the appeals proscess. we are being as aggressive as we can legally to first and foremost appeal that ruling and then to implement those elements of immigration executive actions that were not challenged in court. but obviously, the centerpiece, one of the key provisions for me was being able to get folks who were undocumented to go through a background check, criminal background check, pay back taxes, and then have a legal status. and that requires an entire administrative process and get them to comply and come clean. i made a decision which i think is the right one, that we should not accept applications until the legal status of this is clarified. i'm absolutely convinced this is well within my legal authority, the department of homeland security's legal authority. if you look at the precedent, if you look at the traditional discretion that the executive branch possesses when it comes to applying immigration laws i am convinced that what we're doing is lawful and our lawyers are convinced that what we're doing is lawful. but the united states is a government of laws and separations of power, and even if it's an individual district court judge making this determination, we've got to go through the process to challenge it. and until we get clarity there, i don't want to bring people in have them apply, and jump through a lot of hoops only to have it deferred and delayed further. of course there is one really great way to solve this problem, and that would be congress going in and acting which would obviate the need for executive actions. the majority of the american people, i think, still want to see that happen. i suspect it will be a major topic of the next presidential campaign. and so we will continue to push as hard as we can on all fronts to fix a broken immigration system system. administratively we'll be prepared if and when we get the kind of ruling that i think we should have gotten in the first place by our authorities to go ahead and implement. but ultimately this will never fully replace the need for congress to act. and my hope is that after a number of the other issues we're working on currently get cleared that some quiet conversations start back up again, particularly in the republican party, about the short-sighted approach that they're taking when it comes to immigration. okay. christy christy. sgrz thank you >> thank you, mr. president. more than 6 million americans may soon lose health insurance if congress backs the opposition to the affordable health fair act. their insurance markets may collapse of the collapse. yet your administration has given very little to no guidance on how states can prepare. what can you tell state advocates who worry that half the country may be thrown into chaos? >> what i can tell state leaders is that under well-established precedent precedent, there is no reason why the existing exchanges should be overturned through a court case. it has been well documented that those who passed this legislation never intended for folks who were going through the federal exchange not to have their citizens get subsidies. that's not just the opinion of me, that's not just the opinion of democrats, it's the opinion of the republicans who worked on the legislation. the record makes it clear. and under well-established statutory interpretation approaches that have been repeatedly employed not just by liberal democratic judges but by conservative judges like someone on the current supreme court, you interpret a statute based on what the intent meaning and the overall structure of the statute provides for. so this should be an easy case. frankly, it probably shouldn't even have been taken up. since we're going to get a ruling pretty quick, i think it's important for us to go ahead and assume that the supreme court is going to do what most legal scholars who have looked at this would expect them to do. but look i've said before and i will repeat again, if in fact, you have a contorted reading of the statute that says federally run exchanges don't provide subsidies for folks who are participating in those exchanges, then that throws off how that exchange operates. it means that millions of people who are obtaining insurance currently with subsidies suddenly aren't getting those subsidies. many can't afford it they pull out, and the assumptions that the insurance companies made when they priced their insurance suddenly gets thrown out the window. and it would be disruptive not just by way of folks in the exchanges but for those insurance markets in those states generally. so it's a bad idea. it's not something that should be done based on a twisted interpretation of four words in -- as we were reminded repeatedly a couple thousand page piece of legislation. part of what's bizarre about this whole thing is we haven't had a whole lot of conversation about the horrors of obamacare because none of them have come to pass yet 16 million people have gotten health insurance. an overwhelming majority of them are satisfied with the health insurance. it hasn't had an adverse effect on people who already had health insurance. the only effect it's had on people who already had health insurance is they now have an assurance they won't be prevented from getting health insurance and they get additional protections with the health insurance they do have. the costs that come in substantially lower than even our estimates about how much it would cost. health care inflation overall has continued to be at some of the lowest levels in 50 years. none of the predictions about how this wouldn't work have come to pass. and so i'm -- a, i'm optimistic that the supreme court will play it straight when it comes to an interpretation, and b, i should mention that if it didn't congress could fix this whole thing with a one-sentence provision. but i'm not going to go into a long speculation anticipating disaster. >> you're a clear-headed kind of guy. why not have a plan b? >> i want to just make sure that everybody understands that you have a model where all the pieces connect. and there are a whole bunch of scenarios not just in relation to health care but all kinds of stuff that i do where if somebody does something that doesn't make any sense, then it's hard to fix. and this would be hard to fix. fortunately, there is no reason to have to do it. it don't need fixing. all right? thank you very much! thank you, people of germany and bavaria. you guys were wonderful hosts. >> the president just wrapping up a press conference. widespread number of subjects discussed this morning with meetings that he had with g7 leaders, and i want to bring back former u.s. ambassador of russia mike mcfall. also joining us is the "washington post." let's bring in chris jansing before i do that. ambassador, let me start with you. on the whole issue of ukraine and the movement they believe this has been working the different policies that the g7 has been taking with russia seems to be working, but that the minsk agreements need to be respected. so far, ambassador that hasn't really occurred. >> that's right. it's a stalemate. putin doesn't want to abide by them. he's trying to put pressure on kiev. the g7 has said until he does that, they're not going to exchange sanctions. that was an achievement, that there is not news of any country in the g7 thinking we need to renegotiate the sanctions, i think, is good news from the president's perspective and good news in terms of abiding by the course that the united states and the west set out. but it doesn't mean there will be a settlement. those are two very different things. sometimes there are problems that aren't solved in years or even decades. this one, i fear is one of those. >> it was interesting to listen to the president say that putin is thinking and wants to recreate the former glory of the soviet empire in europe. and the fact is that the economy of russia has been severely affected, the ruble has dropped, the stock market as lost hundreds of millions of dollars, and yet it seems, ambassador, as though putin is pretty much consistent that that really doesn't matter. >> well so far it doesn't matter. so far he's got an 80% approval rating. so far he has portrayed this economic woes blaming it on the west. just remember lots of policies over history take years and decades to look smart. remember containment. imagine if we were debating containment a year after they put it in place. it didn't have results for decades after it was put in place, and now we all think containment was the brilliant strategy of the cold war. i think here too, we have to have a much longer term horizon to judge cause and effect and to judge the success of the policy. >> that's very interesting. and ed, let's talk a little politics, shall we? a lot of politics was discussed at this press conference. let's start with the issue of obamacare. he says he was asked repeatedly why there was no plan b from the white house administration. if obamacare -- the very important part of obamacare was struck down in the supreme court. >> that's right. this is actually a question that's been asked not only of the white house, but increasingly has been asked of congressional republicans and the republicans who want to be president after 2016. and so far there is still very much a hot potato attitude that we're going to wait and see what happens, but we don't necessarily think in this case the president says look we'll sort this out. clearly they don't want this to have to happen. but you can expect that there will be pressure put on congressional republicans to very quickly come up with some alternative proposals. there are some in the works. out on the campaign trail, those who are former governors especially have been asking about this whether or not the state should step in to fill the void. i know scott walker was among those last week saying no we didn't approve this program. rick scott, among the governors who are running, he too, said this isn't necessarily a state issue, that the federal government will have to come up with a plan. if the court ruling does not only become a major blow to the state's legacy but also a potential that they will have to deal with it among all the other things they're trying to sort out. >> interestingly, the other issue of the ttp, the president continues to publicly state that he feels very positive that the house of representatives will support ttp, and he's certainly letting that image come forward, right, ed? >> that's right, and we're coming close to a vote on that. this is going to require a coalition of house republicans, a small handful, not all of the house democrats who were in support of this. once they feel they've got roughly the 218 they need to pass, it's expected it will happen. the president did take over with him a handful of house democrats who recently expressed support for the trade deal. the idea is to not only award them for their decision to back the bill but also hopefully to get them to go back to washington this week and sort of help build sort for it. if it doesn't happen this week or next that's a real sign it's falling apart as speaker boehner said he doesn't want this running into july. >> and also the president, i'm quoting him, thousands of foreign fighters are still streaming into syria and then going into iraq. clearly turkey is a key player in this. the president was clear that more needs to be done with dealing with turkey and how it lets folks go right into syria pretty much uninterrupted. >> yes. i mean obviously that was discussed with the iraqi prime minister. he's trying to get more people involved to try to deal with this crisis. and it's clear from his remarks in the press conference and the question that he answered that he doesn't believe enough is being done. he wants to internationalize the effort. >> ambassador mcfall and ed o'keefe, thank you both for being with me. i appreciate your time. we have much more news ahead, including breaking news out of the supreme court. we'll have that for you next right here on the rundown. stay with me. when i started at the shelter, no one wanted 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congress in 2002 passed a law saying if the parents wanted to say jerusalem, israel then the state department should do it. the government always tried not to do it because it would take sides on who really controls jerusalem, one of the most sensitive points in the middle east. and they said that's not for congress to say, that's for the president to say. one other thing of interest here today, jose the supreme court declined to take up a challenge to san francisco's handgun law. several residents had said it was too restrictive and said if you have a handgun at home for self-defense, you either have to have it locked in a cabinet or with a trigger lock that can only be opened by a key. the challengers putting a 79-year-old woman saying if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, you'll be fumbling with your glasses trying to remember the combination to get your gun, but the supreme court let down that law saying while it does burden the second amendment, it's not a severe burden. two of the justices here said congress and the court should have taken the case. by refusing to take it the court somehow less respectful of the second amendment than the other constitutional rights jose. >> pete williams thank you for that story, that live report. for the first time since the indictment was announced, hastert makes his first court appearance. let's go with andrew shaw, executive director with the watchdog group of the veteran organization. andy, good to see you. tell me about the arraignment tomorrow. what can we expect? >> jose we're referring to this as d-day in chicago. that's denny's day. this will be his first appearance in court in what i have to say has been the most peculiar political corruption case i've ever seen. remember, there wasn't a single word about this coming. it was a bombshell when it was announced two weeks ago. that's unheard of. you normally have a lot of scuttlebutt that somebody is facing charges. secondly, we haven't seen or heard from the ex-speaker in two weeks, nor do we know who his attorney is nor do we know what he's likely to do tomorrow. what we do know is there will be a phalanx of media and cameras, he'll be walking the so-called gaunt gauntlet into the federal building a couple blocks from me in chicago, and tomorrow we'll find out who his attorney is. my feeling from watching these kinds of cases for many years is we haven't seen the ex-speaker because of the embarrassment and the humiliation of the entire sordid case but more importantly, that he is probably scrambling now to figure out how to cut a plea deal to end this as quickly as possible. >> yeah but andy very odd. not even a spokesperson coming up with a statement, nothing. total silence. >> well that apparently means that this is so humiliating, so embarrassing and so shocking to the speaker himself, the ex-speaker, that he has not figured out a way to deal with it. tomorrow he could do a little more than simply plead not guilty and 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does. >> the next president who needs to be someone who has signed the front of a paycheck not just the become of one. >> some of them are doing three or four jobs at the same time. >> we have one hell of a mess here in the united states. there's really no point. >> i was called a lot of things when i was governor. looking around to see if any of you called me a few things. i was called veto corleone the one i loved the most. >> from the time my hand goes off the bible, until you come to the inaugural balls. >> the free-for-all republican race heads south, where one florida man finds his former frontrunner status evaporating by the day. just moments ago, jeb bush wrapped up his remarks at governor rick scott's economic growth summit in orlando, where he sized up the burgeoning republican field. >> it's a rambunctious deal. we've got 75 people running i think, last time i checked. i haven't checked how many people announced today, but it's a big field. it will be competitive. it's not -- this isn't -- there's going to be some elbows and knees under the board here. >> preceding him, bobby jindal mike huckabee, chris christie and perhaps most problematically, wisconsin governor scott walker, who schooled the crowd on economic conservativism. >> nobody signed my yearbook dear scott, good luck becoming dependent. that's not the american dream. we act like that's okay. that's acceptable. >> side note. how many people actually signed scott walker's yearbook? anyway, a brand-new abc "washington post" poll out today finds walker tied with senator rand paul atop the gop presidential field. each man has 11%. jeb bush and marco rubio are tied for second place, just one point behind. but the poll represents a big drop for bush. in late march, the same poll had bush at 21%. eight points over his nearest rival scott walker. and on that note just over two months until the first debate and neither bush nor walker is officially running. joining me now is correspondent for the upshot at "the new york times," josh baro, jennifer senior eric bates, and host of msnbc's "up," steve kornacki. steve, you're alive in the happiest place on earth, orlando, florida. did jeb bush feel like a frontrunner today? >> i'd say he felt like a frontrunner in this room with this crowd here. this event had the feeling of a homecoming for jeb bush. the former governor of this state. this was an event organized by rick scott, the current republican governor. these are people who jeb bush goes back a long ways with. in some cases, a couple of decades. if he came in here i think he was a little looser than we usually see him. maybe a little more confident. more animated. he felt like the frontrunner more than any other candidate. i would make that declaration with two catches. the first is this. marco rubio, the senator from florida, the other floridian in this race for president, he was not able to attend in person today because of all the patriot act drama in washington. he stayed in washington. he spoke via a video link earlier today. so if he didn't have that up and close and personal feel. tough to get a real judgment of bush versus rubio and who this crowd is with. the other catch with bush it's much simpler. it's about when the florida primary will take place. it's scheduled for march 15th. the primary season will basically get under way at the start of february. it's a real open question. of whether jeb bush can survive until the florida primary. he's got to put up some wins. he's got big trouble in iowa. talk about writing that off from the bush standpoint. there's hardly any guarantee when he's running 20% in the polls there. lindsey graham the favorite son is now running in south carolina. in nevada there was a big blow for the bush campaign because they had been counting on getting nevada switched from a caucus to a primary to broaden the electorate. doesn't look like they'll get their way there. so bush has got to put up some wins in those early states to even get to florida. >> steve, hang with me for a second. jennifer, you have a great piece new york magazine magazine profiling jeopardy bush. you note that while jeb has been out of politics this whole movement, the tea party movement has cropped up. you write, rather than pandering to it or even being mindful of it, the governor is running an outright defiance of the movements, aesthetics and note notable cases intellectual preferences as if it didn't exist at all. did you get the sense that the bush campaign is mindful of the unlikeliness of the bush strategy? >> yes and no. i would say don't you think this is weird? >> a weird strategy and a hard thing to do. >> in a way, i admire it. because he's really not changing his answers a lot. i mean he is very consistent. he continues -- he leaves red meat on the table. he doesn't throw it to his audiences. which is commendable, you know. he doesn't modify his views very much on immigration. >> and common core. things that are gimmes. >> exactly. walked it back a little bit, but then he'll come right back and say i still think all states should have really good standards. so i've said to every single person that i can think of, don't you think this is risky? and they come back to me with the exact same line that they had in december. we have to lose the primary. >> to win the general. which, of course you can't do. >> only if you metaphorically lose it. i admire what they're doing in a funny way. >> well right. jennifer also makes the point -- and you saw it a little bit in the sound that we played at the beginning of the show. jeb bush i think is more affable and spontaneous and engaging on the callmpaign trail than a lot of other people. >> and he was a hugely popular governor in florida and i think that's made him cocky here. people say oh no you're not going to be able to sell this. but his view is i did sell it. in way, it's similar to chris christie who says look at my massive track record. >> but when jeb bush left office, he had a 67% approval rating. >> so jeb bush has an even better reason to take that position and to say well, okay you're criticizing my approach but my approach has worked in the past. on the other hand, the past was quite a while ago. that last election he won was in 2002, so who knows if that formula that worked as republican in florida in 2002 can work in a national primary environment that i think has gotten significantly more politically polarized than it was last time. >> "the new york times" did a sort of informal poll of former bush advisers and peter baker reports that a sampling conducted largely by e-mail of 120 people who worked for george w. bush found about 25 who said they were supporting his younger brother jeb. 50 were neutral or supporting someone else and the rest didn't respond. is that a good thing or is that a bad thing? >> that should be a badge of honor, i think. >> for some people maybe it is. it's not a great bellwether for him among his own party, is it? >> he's always had this problem with his brother. of distancing himself, but remaining close. touting the family ties. saming to some extent i'm not this guy on policy. we're not going to pursue the same thing. i think the reality comes back to what you're saying. that he dates from a pre-tea party republican party. and whether he's really grasped the change that's taken place isn't really certain. it's very unclear i think whether he realizes how different the landscape is now than when he was in office. >> steve, i want to talk about scott walker because we played from sound from him before. he is constantly mentioned as a threat to jeb along with marco rubio. what did you make of his performance this afternoon and how did the room receive it? >> a couple things about scott walker. i think it was very well received. i wouldn't call it a raucous reception or anything. this really is scott walker's crowd. this is a crowd filled with business executives. this is a very corporate crowd. people who were very responsive to scott walker's message. he was describing his experiences in wisconsin and basically going to battle with unions. the interesting thing about scott walker i think he's compelling in a certain way, but he's not a rah-rah guy. >> yes, that's an understatement. >> but i've seen the politicians who will just put you to sleep. i don't think that walker really puts you to sleep. it's just there's sort of this confidence underneath it all. the guy doesn't even seem to blink. he just absoshsrbs it all. there's a sort of steadiness there. i think there might be some appeal to some of these voters but he's not going to win them over with fire and brimstone rhetoric. that's for sure. >> marco rubio, who you spent some time talking about in the piece vis-a-vis the threat he poses to jeb bush, you argue that jeb could actually be more potent among hispanics. tell everybody why. >> yeah. >> first of all, democrats like him. i found that fascinating. i said to sergio van nixon, a democrat, i said to him, can't you find, like one spirited democratic critic of bush? and he wrote me back and said got to think about it. i'm not sure. >> that's impressive. >> the reason that they give when pete wilson went prop 187 was at its most grotesquely popular, bush said this is gratuitous xenophobia. >> he refuses to up and downer to the indignity. >> exactly. other people have said that he actually -- because he takes this personally. >> the little brown ones. >> he's loved by not just cubans in florida, but hispanics generally. >> people forget that marco rubio said no offense to immigrants burke my parents were exiles. >> one of the biggest racial divides you see is this question asked fairly often, which is do you prefer a larger government providing more services or a smaller government providing fewer services. blacks and hispanics are more likely to say larger government providing more services. a vision of conservativism isn't about talking points. >> jeb bush is definitely conservative fiscally and a lot of different areas. don't malign an ethnic category in the united states. >> that's what's fascinating. isaac lee said to me, while i agree with you completely, he said actually immigration matters in some ways at least rhetorically more than those things. because you're saying otherwise, my sister can get electrocuted it's fine. when he said that, i thought, okay. >> the whole heart thing. it matters. steve kornacki thank you as always for that update. we have to take a break. when we come back he sat in an empty house chamber over the memorial day recess to ensure the patriot act would not be extended. the congressman joins me after the break to talk about the future of government surveillance. plus caitlyn jenner just smashed a record once held by president obama. the corruption into fifa moves mountains. all of that is coming up. ♪ ♪ time upon a once people approached problems the way same. always start at the starting. and questions the same asking. but that only resulted in improvements small. so we step a took back and problems turned these inside-up-down to approach them newly. and that's when we it saw. garbage can create energy. light can talk. countries can run on jet engine technology. when you look at problems in ways different you new solutions find. ♪ ♪ ♪ roundup ♪ ♪ roundup has a sharp-shootin' wand ♪ ♪ just point and shoot, and weeds are gone ♪ ♪ 'round fences, trees, even mulched beds ♪ ♪ 'cause the only good weed is a weed that's dead ♪ ♪ roundup ♪ [ male announcer ] with a one-touch wand. 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>> i'm not surprised. we've come a long way in two years. a couple years ago, people couldn't imagine blocking the patriot act, and today you have a majority of congress who believe that the patriot act needs to go away. we've got disagreements about whether the freedom act is a viable solution to our concerns, and i'm one of the people who thinks we need to do more and we need to do better. but we've come a long way and there's been a big change in congress. >> were you dismayed at some of the things that were said by party elders including john mccain and mitch mcconnell, accuseing certain senators of fundraising, or even more seriously, making the country more dangerous? >> well that kind of thing happens in congress and everyone who know ss senator paul and two others people know that we are here and we're sincerely doing our job, and if the public likes what we're doing, so be it. the fact that there are senators on the wrong side of history who are opposing privacy protections, imposing the constitution that's to their own peril. >> one of the more remarkable aspects of this is the bipartisan nature of it. i guess i wonder do you think this moment opens the door to future bipartisan collaboration on issues independent of national security? >> i think so. i work with a lot of democrats on a daily basis, so did a lot of my colleagues on the republican side who were newer to the body. there's been a shift in the thinking based on i think a generational difference. we came here to work together on behalf of all the people. and if we're fighting together for liberty, it shouldn't matter whether you're a republican or democrat. so there will be changes. >> i know that you kept watch while everyone else was on vacation to make sure that nothing passed. did you speak to boehner about it and what was that like for you? >> a few people asked our leadership team whether they would do anything. we heard that they would not. however, we've seen things pass by unanimous consent with nobody here. in fact, that happened just recently two weeks ago where something was passed by unanimous consent with nobody in the chamber. so we felt with an issue this important, we needed to be here to protect the chamber, to protect the rights of americans, and i was here on a regular basis and i had a few colleagues on the republican aend the democratic side who stayed behind to help the cause. >> was speaker boehner annoyed that you sat in the chamber? >> i don't know, i haven't talked to him about it. i got a sense that the majority leader was a little bit upset about it. he was joking around about it. but look had to do what we had to do. this is too important an issue. the constitution is too important. i'll the what i can to protect the rights of the people. >> and it looks like you may have done it. congressman, thanks for your time. >> thanks so much. >> joining us now is national security reporter for the guardian spencer akerman. you've been following this diligently and thoroughly. the vote lacks like it's going to pass. do you think this is the tip of the iceberg on the question of national security and the surveillance state? >> so, a couple things. one, after this bill whatever happens to it a coalition that includes justin amash and a bunch of others democrats and republicans in the house, have a plan for the next two years to roll back other government surveillance powers. the civil libertarians in the house and also in the senate who believe this bill doesn't do enough to protect privacy had thought really long and hard about what they're going to do next. they got a bunch of things to do. >> so this is -- they've been working on this issue for -- i mean, amash has been working on this for two years. rand paul has been vociferously debating it. you think there are further reforms down the pike. >> they are definitely going to try further reforms. they're going to try to make sure the nsa doesn't undermine encryption. they're going to try to make sure the nsa and fbi can't warrantlessly search through their troves of calls for americans identifying information. they're going to try when another important surveillance power expires in 2017 to do the same thing that they just did with the patriot act. >> so are we beginning to see the erosion of the security blanket that's been in place since 9/11? >> it is and it isn't. it's very historic. it's the first time since 9/11 that congress has actually voted to roll back surveillance in any real way. i mean there have been some other moves. but this is -- to end the bulk collection program, that's a big step. on the other hand, to call this a reform bill when all of that material is still available -- >> right. and the phone companies. >> the phone companies hold it now. it can be gotten through a court procedure that shouldn't be referred to as a court procedure. >> right. >> because it's completely secret. >> this is the first time since 1978 that congress has taken -- >> post watergate. >> yeah. this is an enormous thing. you saw the politics came out in full force. senators have been saying get it. you're going to die, your grandmother's going to die, everyone you care about is beginning to die. >> richard said maybe we should have had this debate in secret if only so we don't give the terrorists a road map. i mean isn't the whole point -- i mean the best part of this is that we're having the debate out in the open. >> yeah and i think people weren't buying those lines in the way that people bought them in 2002. you have this debate in the republican primary over whose fault isis is. they were republican candidates for president. even sidestepping the idea that barack obama was the person who was at fault, which you might see in a republican presidential debate. so you saw this sort of stupid conversation but it doesn't seem to have driven the vote outcome. >> do you think that this is an issue for the 2016 election? obviously it's going to be something that rand paul talks about. but to what degree do you think you'll see a difference of opinion between the republican nominee and the democratic nominee, assuming the republican nominee isn't rand paul? >> if it's not rand paul, who knows? if it is this is beginning to be a major tremendous issue. hillary clinton has shown no desire at all to roll back any element of the surveillance state at all. just anything to change the broader course of u.s. foreign policy. if she is left to her own devices, same thing. the important thing that isn't going away this is two years after edward snowden disclosed this program. none of this would be happening at all had edward snowden not essentially made an enormous personal sacrifice. >> and i keep bringing that up with various senates who come on this show. and we're not there yet, it sounds like among our elected representatives. he's still being referred to as eric snowden. that edward snowden played a really important part in starting this debate. >> they continue to demonize him on the floor of the senate. mccain was calling out the unlawful acts of edward snowden. and this would all still be going on and all still be a secret if it hadn't been for the enormous personal sacrifice he made. >> edward snowden made a wide variety of disclosures. including not just this program and what we were doing to spy on the russians at the g20 summit. while the government was keeping too many secret and doing things it wasn't supposed to be doing, the correct system is not for some person in the apparatus. other disclosures in there were not good for the country. i don't think it gives him blanket absolution. >> i don't think anybody's saying blanket absolution but there should be some acknowledgement that what he did was actually important in starting a massive national debate. >> i don't think anybody has pointed to anything he revealed that caused a serious problem where they had been able to say this disclosure really threatened national security. >> i've talked to them on stories repeatedly, and they will give that blanket scare mongering. when you try to pin them down on anything, they're unable to do so. >> and barack obama and the nsa and the people who work on this administration fear mongered on this program. they fear mongered on it before we published it in the guardian thanks to edward snowden nearly two years ago today. ever since people were saying that if the nsa doesn't collect, everyone in this room and everyone around the country's phone records someone is going to die. and that didn't work. >> what's interesting is it's not just the media covering at this point. is congress actually acting to craft change around something that we thought previously was the third rail of american politics, national security. >> it went up for re-authorization. i want to say it got something like 72 votes in the senate. this would have been a foregone conclusion. it would have passed again and again and again without any substantial change had it not been for edward snowden. edward snowden is the reason period this has happened. >> it is always good to see you. thank you for your time. josh, stay in that seat. we'll have more after the break. and ladders... awwwwwww!!!!! they have all those warnings on them. might as well say, "you're going to die, jeff". you hired someone to clean the gutters? 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and what does it say about society when caitlyn jenner topples president obama in the great twitter race? but first, does tsa stand for totally sleeping at work? that would technically be tsw, but the sentiment would be right. a 95% failure right when it came to check point screeners detecting mock explosives. >> at one point an alarm sounded, but even during a patdown, the screening officer failed to find a fake explosive taped to an undercover agent's back. >> they failed to find a fake explosive taped to an agent's back. this from an agency with a $7 billion budget. the report led to the swift reassignment of acting tsa chief melvin caraway. joining us nationwide is kevin avery. i really hope john oliver makes a tsa the focus of next week's show. >> first, i would just like to thank melvin for letting me get all of my shampoos. >> right! >> i want my yogurt back. my bottomled water. and some facial creams that were a little bit expensive. >> mine have been sliding right through. thank you. >> are you surprised by this? >> well, now i get it. i just feel like melvin's going to land on his feet. >> he's been reassigned to another position within the tsa. that's the ultimate land on your feet. not getting fired. >> the head of tsa is named melvin. i just feel like his cousin hooked him up with the job. >> come on that's not fair. >> i feel like he's going to be all right. >> i just wonder if we are to draw -- we just passed the usa freedom act. talked about revisiting our national security apparatus. maybe we should start with a tsa that couldn't find a fake explosive taped to an agent's back. >> there's this team within the tsa whose job is to come up with these things. like if we were terrorists, how would we try to sneak the bombs in? it seems i'm just glad to know that the red team apparently is smarter than the actual terrorist. they've managed to do this. but we were talking in the break, when was the last time there was an actual incident on a plane that was a terrorist incident. the shoe bomber -- >> well, but also the fbi and the cia are theoretically the sort of main line defense, the tsa is the last line of defense. and not apparently a very good one at that. i'm sorry, i don't care what color the team is. but if you can't find an explosive taped to someone's back. the humpty dumpty strategy of terrorism seems to be fairly flawed. >> what was the classic "saturday night live" routine with the guy -- was it chevy chase or jim belushi walking through the airport security with a wheelbarrow of cocaine. >> they did that. >> we're going to use that to move on. first there was the "vanity fair" cover. and then there was this. yesterday, caitlyn jenner broke a twitter world record previously held by president barack obama racking up one million followers faster than anyone else in the twitterverse. okay, so on some level, that seems bad. the president of the united states should be the person with the most followers in the shortest amount of time. but it also makes sense. caitlyn jenner is a lot more interesting and new to twitter. >> i just think it's cool. i like the idea that this is sort of the button to her story. this shouldn't be a big deal. this should be a normal thing. i think the great part about it is that through this caitlyn jenner has reminded us that remember, i'm faster than all of you. >> broke iron man's record. >> right. robert downey jr. previously was the record holder. what i think is interesting too is if you go just by -- so just arguing with myself as i frequently do. one assumes that the people who have the most twitter followers is the most interesting. win three times, now need to invest more in rnd and provide incentives. what's a katy perry tweet? today i ate tacos on a beach by myself with no phone. today was perfect. which is the more interesting tweet? >> obama's. sorry. i'm perverse that way. >> maybe regulatory incentives. >> who has more followers? >> i think katy perry. katy perry. >> a lot of people like tacos. >> eating them on the beach by themselves. >> i think this demonstrates something important about the caitlyn jenner story, which is that a few months ago when this was starting a lot of people were apprehensive like oh no a lot of america's instruction to transstory is going to be kardashian. is that a good thing or not? one way is that kardashians are people who can do really well with intense publicity and can deal with all of america watching them. so i think caitlyn jenner is actually unusually well-positioned to deal with the spotlight here. and you're seeing that. how do you beat president obama's record there. who's better at social media than the kardashians. >> yeah. they own the media al at this particular moment. john kerry underwent surgery this morning at mass general hospital to help set a broken leg while broken over the weekend while biking in france. some people, and by some people i mean rush limbaugh have been less than sympathetic regarding kerry's injury. >> what is a 70-year-old man secretary of state doing riding a bicycle? why is somebody riding a bicycle while in the midst of sensitive negotiations? he's doing that for the photo op trying to look hip with the young generation that thinks life is all about exercise and fitness. >> you know who is not trying to look hip with the young generation? do we have the photo of rush limbaugh? he is not trying to show everybody that exercise is the future. that's not even the photo we wanted to use. but does he have a point? should you really be biking in the middle of sensitive nuclear negotiations? >> i mean who knew? who knows when you get on the bike, this is going to be the one. >> true. 71 is not too old to be riding a bike. it's probably too old to be crashing a bike. >> shouldn't have he perfected the bike riding part? >> if john kerry wanted to look like a hipster, he would have been on a fixed gear. >> that is true. just blame it on the hipster. >> fedora helmet. >> what would he say to that lady who was 92 years old who completed the marathon. >> she's trying to look hip for the young age. i just like how rush makes it an indictment. like young liberals and their exercise. >> showing them that broccoli and health are what survival is all about. not chomping on a stogey. i won't even go there. i will say i am a little bit concerned about the future of the iran nuclear negotiations given the fact that he can't take what he used to with the iranian foreign minister. no one else? 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>> the same thing. my son was in my office and we let out whoops and we're very excited. but that was being duplicated across the world. i look at loretta lynch and i can say i'm a republican that loves loretta lynch. there are a lot of french men and women that love loretta lynch. people that haven't had much use for the united states over the past few years. i'm serious. that are saying today, oh, my gosh, they finally did something meaningful if our lives. forget all the foreign aid. as you know if you travel around countries shut down. not only in europe and latin america and south america and asia across the world, they shut down for these national events. for years, everybody knew it was rigged, it was fixed. i think the final straw was the awarding of the world cup to qatar in 2022. bill clinton and eric holder were there. and everybody, not just bill clinton and eric holder but everybody across the planet said wait a second it's 120 degrees in the summer. they've never qualified for the world cup. >> how did this happen? >> everybody knew there had been massive payoffs. you said he's universally scorned. vladimir putin likes him. >> he's also pretty universally scorned. >> he's in trouble, too because everybody knew that 18 was rigged. >> how did we do this? we were talking before this segment began. do you think one of the reasons the u.s. was able to basically bring down the upper echelons of fifa is because we haven't been seen as contenders on the soccer stage? >> i think a couple of trend lines were coming together. the first was we aren't good enough to win the world cup yet. but there was a growing interest. we didn't have that great fear that say brazil would have or england would have or another country whose national identity rises or falls with the world cup. and they threatened sanctions. so you had that part of it where we really didn't fear we were banned from fifa. the second part of it, is fact in 2010 and 2014 more people in america watch the world cup final than watched the world series. when you start realizing that -- after '14, i started thinking wait a second, we've got to be one of the biggest advertising markets for the world cup now. they can't keep pushing us aside for qatar. >> they can't keep putting baby in a corner. >> nobody puts baby in a corner when baby has billions of dollars to spend on your event. >> do you think this prompts the revisitation of awarding the cup to qatar? >> no question about it. 2008 2018 in russia, we're going to find out there was corruption there. probably very ugly. but the world cup has never gone to eastern europe before. eastern europe deserves a world cup. if putin for some reason it's found that he has rigged it, i'd like to see it in kiev. give it to ukraine. i still call it the ukraine. i'm an old man. let's give it to poland. belarus. >> anything to stoke the ire. >> but i do think it needs to go to an eastern european country. a lot of great eastern european countries. but qatar should not have it. they've never qualified. totally corrupt. >> and the human right. >> they're building their stadiums with slave labor. people are getting killed. there's just absolutely no reason why they should have it. >>. >> who do you like to replace sepp blatter? no one will be able to replace sepp blatter. >> he's like dr. evil. >> i want roger bennett, actually. >> that would be a gift to the art of this part of soccer. >> i think we need to give it to roger. i don't know his name, but i like the prince -- >> prince ali bin hussein. he had the guts to stand up against blatter when nobody else would. right now the frenchman is the favorite. >> it's great to have the stars of the sport. >> i know. it is always good to see you. >> it's great to be here. this is a momentous day. >> it is a happy day for football fans. be sure to catch "morning joe" weekdays at 6:00 a.m. eastern. as i know you do right here on msnbc. thanks, joe. three spreadsheets later you finally bring home the one. then smash it into a tree. your insurance company's all too happy to raise your rates. maybe you should've done a little more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. working on my feet all day gave me pain here. in my lower back but now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts. now i get immediate relief from my foot pain. my lower back pain. find a machine at drscholls.com your pet... could you love him any more? 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(vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. clive and bundy is talking about slavery again. bundy is the rancher who got in a standoff with the government over grazing his cattle on federal land. he is also the guy who wondered out loud whether black people would be better off as slaves than on government assistance. one year later, this is what bundy said in an interview this week. >> talking about slavery, there's something about -- you know, the slavery thing. and you know that's been over for hundreds -- a couple hundred years, really. but are these people really being enslaved to be in these government subsidy homes and housing and receiving welfare. i mean is that a sense of slavery when you get caught up in that? you can't get out of it for generations. >> independent of that bundy remains controversial for still owing the federal government $1.2 million for grazing cattle on federal land for two decades. if he's going to wonder some more about government dependency, perhaps he better start in his own backyard. that's it for "now." "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work! tonight, surveillance showdown. >> we are living in a dangerous time. >> the best way to make sure america is protected is for the senate to pass the usa freedom bill. >> we also have to maintain our constitutional rights and the rights of privacy. plus trade secrets. >> the negotiations have been secret. >> wikileaks is raising a $100,000 reward for the missing chapters on america's most wanted secrets. the transpacific partnership. later, tsa failures. >> tsa screeners failing 95% of the time. >> even during a patdown, the screen officer failed to find a fake explosive

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