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lot of lesser things that we could be doing. now that doesn t mean that there is not a significant risk of escalation, just using conventional weapons. and there is a real whisk risk of something like a no-fly zone, where you actually have nato aircraft targeting targets in russia that will then demand a russian response. and so you could get into a broader nato russia war, you know, if you are not careful in managing that process. but the nuclear threat, i think, is a bogeyman. of course, everybody is going to be worried about the possibility that you could eventually get there. but there are so many stopping points before you reach that point that i think that that is not something anyone should be worried about. the ukrainians reported a very positive meeting today with china s ambassador to ukraine who, to my surprise, was in ukraine today and i

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