small circle but turns out a lot of people either knew about it or heard echoes of it and stories to tell to journalists about it. so, in my experience, trying to figure these things out for decades, its often coming from places you didn't anticipate. >> and the reason i ask the question is because the president has berated the fbi and the intelligence community on the issue of leaks and others have berated the intelligence community and the press because of these leaks. but i think it's worth considering it's quite possible that there are folks who have a kind of political monday chausen by proxy syndrome because they leak information because they want be the savior once it blows up. there are all sorts of individuals that serve on political staff. and inc. we ought to consider the possibility that, perhaps, it is somebody at the white house. thank you. i yield back. >> mr. chairman yields back. >> mr. hurd. >> thank you, chairman. gentlemen, thank you all for being here.
down any known confirmation of this wiretapping. we heard the head of the fbi confirm the investigation that's been going on into months into the russian ties. >> i think it is most important part is the confirmation that there is an ongoing investigation. comey's refusal to mention names or to confirm there are particular people being involved. and the question i wish he had been asked is, he doesn't want to tell us now who's under investigation because he's following the guidelines of the justice department. why didn't he follow the guidelines of the justice department about the investigation of hillary clinton? why was he so free to disclose that during an election campaign when he didn't feel free to disclose this election, which was going on as well? that really does raise some questions, not about his apartmenpar shallties. >> thank you for joining us twice in one day. let's go to kasie hunt outside
definitive read out from the fbi about what they've actually found here, if they've found anything. there is a political aspect. if you take a poll and ask the democrats, did the russian interference affect the election outcome? is it the reason or a major reason why donald trump is president right now? democrats overwhelmingly are going to say yes. republicans are going to say no to that. there are obviously it's not the reason we're having this investigation right now, but i think it hangs in the air, and it's an unanswerable question. you can paint a very compelling political theory for why the e-mails, the wikileaks, the news coverage, all of this effected the outcome and made donald trump president and you could point -- you could paint a compelling theory for why hey look, votes down the stretch broke against hillary clinton because maybe she was the face of the establishment. it's an unanswerable question, but it's a major part of this story because i think there is a part of democrats all across
thank you for your continued service to your country. i've learned recently the value of sitting in one place for a long period of time and listening. and today has added to that understanding. and i'm going to try to ask questions that y'all can answer in this format and are within your areas of expertise. director rogers, my first question to you, the addition the exploit that was used by the russians to penetrate the dnc, was it sophisticated? was it a zero exploit? zero day being for those that are watching an exploit that has never been used before? >> in an open, unclassified forum i'm not going to talk about russian tactics, techniques or procedures in how they execute their hacks. >> if members of the dnc had -- let me rephrase this. can we talk about spear fishing? >> in general terms, yes.
rick, who is the match-up? >> i think the match-up is hillary clinton is appearing to ca consolidate and live up to her reputation. there is a coalescing around her. and if i were to put odds today i would say that marco rubio would be the nominee for a couple of reasons. i think that trump and carson are oversold stocks and there is a desire to see someone who can face up against hillary clinton not only on the debate stage but on the campaign trail and defeat her. >> so charles blow, what do you think? >> i think it's an unanswerable question. if you take today, you would -- obviously project clinton and maybe project rubio or bush. i don't count bush out as much as other people do. but there are all the unknowables and things you
that is where this very brief meeting took place and we were out here listening to what we thought was applause to opening statements and i got a text from a member inside the room saying kevin mccarthy is out and i responded, thought that this member was pulling my leg, that it wasn't true, until members started to pour out and we quickly realized that it was true. where does this leave us now and where does this leave the house now? that is such an unanswerable question right now. there's been a lot of talk about chaos in the house. that exists like never before at this particular moment. there are other members who were running, of course. jason chaffetz of utah was one of them. let's listen to what he told reporters after this. >> absolutely stunned. did not see that coming. kevin mccarthy is a very good man, and he has always been one that puts his country before everything else. and so he and i stand shoulder
as texas. she would have to sell herself. she would have to describe how she was one of them. how they could look past the "d" after her name and see her as this boot strapping story. that's why they chose the narrative. >> let me ask you about the cover itself. there's been a lot of discussion about the phrase "can she have it all." it's an unanswerable question. what was the decision-making process internally when you guys chose that as the headline for the story on the cover of the magazine? >> i didn't write the cover headline. the weight my vote is given to issues relating to choice of photography and all that is
the intelligence community and the public, and this is an asymmetrical tool that the russians are using in order to destabilize liberal democratic institutions. and i think it is important that we do everything we can to review this, which i fully believe federal law enforcement is doing, as you talked to here. i'd like to end before yielding back to the chairman that my colleague from california, the ranking member said in his opening statement, the question most people have is whether we can really conduct this investigation in the kind of thorough and nonpartisan manner that the seriousness of the issues merit or whether the enormous political consequences of our work will make that impossible. and he adds, the truth is, i don't know the answer. i do. we must. the american people demand this. the future of our democratic institutions demand it. and i'm glad we have two people