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just prosecute them, you end up losing a valuable clearance-holding asset to the united states national security infrastructure. so, oftentimes, the objective here is to find out what information was granted, what information was shared, and fix the problem from the inside and just kind of push away the person who broke the policy rather than seek any kind of legal charges. >> jesse: and these johns had to disclose their ids before they did the deed? how dumb is that? [laughs] how dumb is that? and these are the people who are supposed to be the elites. >> one of the things that is interesting about this case specifically, not only that you had very senior people involved, senior lawyers, professors, attorneys, intelligence contract executives -- like, these are definitely powerful people, and it kind of goes to show that they thought they were in a very
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differently and had i done so, i would have my own objections." ambassador, we appreciate your willingness to amend your earlier testimony in light of what you now know. and i think you've made it very clear that knowing what you do today, that in fact the president sought an investigation of his political rival, vice president biden, that you would not have countenanced any effort to encourage the ukrainians to engage in such conduct. i appreciate also that you were able to debunk, i hope, for the last time, the idea that joe biden did something wrong when he, in accordance with u.s. policy, sought to replace out corrupt prosecutor, something that not only the u.s. state department wanted, not only the european union wanted, and not only the imf wanted, but was the consensus position of the united states national security infrastructure.
differently and had i done so, i would have raised my own objections. ambassador, we appreciate your willingness to amend your earlier testimony in light of what you now know. and i think you've made it very clear that knowing what you do today, that, in fact, the president sought an investigation of his political rival, vice president biden, that you would not have counted vents to any effort to encourage the ukrainians to engage in such conduct. i appreciate also that you were able to debunk, i hope, for the last time, the idea that joe biden did something wrong when he come in accordance with u.s. policy, sought to replace a corrupt prosecutor, something that not only the u.s. state department wanted, not only the european union wanted, not only the imf wanted, but was the consensus position of united states national security
the united states national security infrastructure. you didn't get a lot of questions ability that today as other witnesses did because i think you effectively said that was all nonsense and we appreciate your candor about that. mr. morrison, i think what is most remarkable about your testimony is the acknowledgement that immediately after the vice president met with president zelensky in warsaw, you witnessed gordon sondland meeting with andrey yermac and sondened told you he informed the ukrainians if they wanted that $400 million in military aid, they were going to have to do the investigations that the president wanted. and you were later informed and this is also significant as you testified here today that ambassador sondland had a subsequent conversation with president trump and informed you that it wasn't going to be enough for the ukrainian