armor capability that the ukrainians need for the coming months. martha: so you mentioned in your answer that part of the reason, part of what changed is the desire to maintain the alliance. we know that the secretary of defense was just in germany last week. the germans were reluctant to allow poland to enlist and deploy the leopard 2 tanks. from what you re saying, i m gleaning that part of this is because for them to do that, we had to do this with our abrams. this was a result of a lot of discussions with the abrams and other allies and partners about the capabilities that ukraine needs. when i talked about unity alliance, of course that matters to us. there s been solidarity with the international community about supporting ukraine. this was the result of very careful and deliberate diplomatic discussions with germany and other nations about these armored capabilities that
ukraine needs for the coming weeks and months ahead. martha: sounds like they forced our hand. we wouldn t have done this if it hadn t been for some pressure from germany. we did this as a result of these diplomatic discussions and an assessment of the needs going forward. you heard the president talk about the unity. how unified we ve been and how important it is that we stay unified going forward. martha: we hear this from president zelensky. we re hearing it also from senator blumenthal that was in ukraine not long ago about something he s very critical of in terms of the pace and the timing of all of these decisions that keep changing with time. watch this. it is a clown show. allies disputing each other and what should go first with what kind of arms. it has to stop. martha: what do you say to that? i would obviously take issue with any description of our