CSPAN2 BOOK TV April 2, 2016
So his goal of establishing a new world war in the middle east out of the chaos that was the old ottoman world i think he and a few others around him are still trying to do that. But he picked a big fight when he picked the fight with russia and that is limiting his project and so far the middle east is not lining up to stand behind him and rejoin the ottoman sphere of influence. He is still pushing this project and agenda but with limited success. On that terrible day. I was not in the midwest....
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