people joke around that solar has been the next big thing for 20 years now. mm-hmm. what is different about what other lab is doing and the way you re thinking about this? we are very narrowly focused on utility solar, things that replace entire coal plants, if you like, and produce that amount of energy. what are we looking at here? what size space is that? well, this is a simulated desert, and this is sort of a mile-wide field of tiny little mirrors. traditional helio states are enormous. building sized 20 or 30 feet on a size. so we re actually utilizing a mechanism much more like the way flowers, the stems of flowers, work. when they follow the sun. in this case we re using fluids, you know, either air or water to hi hydraulically steer these solar elements. we re looking at reducing the cost of that field by 80%. i m layla midrone, and i head