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Its all a bit speculative here, but the idea of a seizure, but do you give any credibility to his testimony right there, that person you had on the show today, on your program? >> dante alan is his name. his account shows up in the search warrant that "the washington post" reported about last night, which became this story that gray was banging his head against the wall of the van and may have injured himself on his own. what mr. alan is reporting is, hes filling in the blanks. he really has to ...

Indicate that at that point that van driver knew that something was wrong. >> trymaine, let me ask you this, are the details of this sort of filtering out, are folks sort of focused on this today with sort of the revelation of this stop? >> reporter: some people are and some people havent heard much about this. but when you listen to the interview and you hear that young man say that, you know, i dont work with the police, it speaks to volumes of which theres this big gap between the police and ...

That point there should have been a call for a medic, and there wasnt. i think that new stop that were talking about, if i were -- if i were asking the right questions and i am in this case my question would be does that indicate that at that point that van driver knew that something was wrong. >> let me ask you this. are the details of this sort of filtering out -- are folks sort of focused on this today with this sort of the revelation of this stop? >> some people are and some people havent sa...

The drivers behavior. >> and, jayne, i ever never seen a press conference like the one they had in baltimore today to come out there for a couple of minutes to basically say one thing. that is this van made a stop that we did not know about, that no police officers told us about, that we the investigators discovered only by seeing some private video of it. >> look, the van driver is the plain player here because, obviously, hes the one driving. and whether or not there was an intentional act, an...

>> all right. finally i want to ask about this sort of mysterious stop that appeared today that we didnt know it happened yet and when i was apparently only revealed by some other cctv footage. what do you make of that? what should we make of it? >> well, if i were to -- the question i would have of the van driver at that stop is why did you make that stop? did you make that stop because you heard something in the back of the van that maybe indicated to you that something had gone wrong? because...

That vehicle. she also believes it to be protocol for that van driver to transmit a call to dispatch to say im making this stop stopping here, i have to get gas -- that call wasnt made for the second stop. >> right. it wasnt made for that stop. we also know that freddie gray requested medical assistance several times. >> thats not unusual. suspects will say, hey, im hurt im hurt when sometimes theyre just crying wolf, right mo? >> absolutely. but i want to make the point theres the officer who r...

That is this van made a stop that we did not know about, that no police officers told us about, that we the investigators discovered only by seeing some private video of it. >> look, the van driver is the plain player here because, obviously, hes the one driving. and whether or not there was an intentional act, and thats obviously a key question, was it intentional driving in the van to try to make freddie gray roll around in the back of the van. it doesnt have to be that. hes unsecured. hes not...

Shackled. okay. >> right. >> so we see that happening. and then we fast forward somewhere to along in here 9:11. some 13 minutes or so. we know that -- not the second prisoner. i dont want to get to that. sorry. let me get rid of that. bring it here. its then heading to central booking. so theres these gaps in here that we know. and we also know about this -- i cant make it go away. im so sorry. we know about these gaps in here and this second undisclosed stop previously how concerning is that t...

That time just the stop before the van driver stopped, because he obviously suspected something was wrong and wanted other police to come and check on the prisoner. chris, this case boils down to a couple of really key questions, and will that rise then to criminal negligence. did the van driver do something to cause that to cause mr. gray to get slammed into the side of the wall? did he do it intentionally? the mere fact that he wasnt secured is by a seat belt as required by policy makes him vu...

Back then the other person that was back there would have been rolling around in the back also and they werent. >> a document from someone who was with freddie gray in the van that says to the police according to them he tried to hurt himself, the family member of one of the officers involved saying they thought that he got hurt before he was in the van. so lets examine this. how much weight should it have? whether this prisoner matters, does the family member matter more? cnn justice reporter e...