homeland security saying they ll prosecute, how do you see it in the short term? they re trying to send a message through homeland security and president we don t want caravans of people coming in large numbers. let them come individually. it is harder to process. and also i think there are issues with legitimacy of these people and whether they really are being persecuted. that s an issue that homeland security is concerned about. sandra: interesting stuff. thank you for your time this morning. bill: i think this whole trip of the vice president will be interesting. what does he say and come away from and what s the policy? as william points out it will take time to process the group. they got the attention they re looking for. stand by for page 2. the fight of the v.a. nomination getting ugly and president trump saying john tester should resign after making false accusations. that s not all he said. karl rove weighs in on that next hour. sandra: the jokes at the
tax vote is to break a tie. mathematically speaking there cannot be a tie. so it factually makes no sense to say that mike pence had to bail out of his middle east peace trip because he was urgently needed on the hill. it s a nice story, it makes him sound very responsible and not at all afraid to go to a place where he s not wanted and where he s going to get yelled at. but once again it s a story that is factually implausible that s coming out of the vice president s office. and it is by a million miles not the most important thing about this vote that we are all waiting for tonight. but, boy, howdy, if the vice president wants to get famous for one thing, this isn t the kind of pattern you would want to be famous for. what else is he famous for this past year? after the 2008 financial crisis which started right at the end of the george w. bush presidency carried over into the first year of the obama presidency, after
so we don t know if that means to donations to mike pence s pac are going to be used to pay his legal defense. doing if you ever see to pay for his lawyers. to only assurance we have is he can t a taxpayer funded defense. we then tried to contact the pac itself. it s called the great america committee. there is a person who s listed on their as the contact person. we found that person tonight and spoke with her to find out if the if you need might be used to fund vice president s legal fees. she said she has forwarded our question to the appropriate contacts. but we don t know what that means and we haven t heard anything further. we ll let you know. that may be a new part of how the vice president spends his vice presidentsy.
lot per hour and is going to be working a lot of hours. is it possible this fundraiser for mike pence s pac, is it possible that s going to be a way for people to fund mike pence s legal defense? we called the vice president spokesman tonight to ask whether the money he s raising tonight for his packers whether that money might be used in the future for mike pence s legal defense. the vice president s spokesman would not really say exactly, but this is exact response we got from him. quote. his legal fees will be paid by non-tax dollars. quote, that s all we are saying. we have not discussed it except to say that it is not tax dollars. that was in response to us asking if this fundraiser for his pac tonight is going to raise money for his legal defense. it won t be tax dollars. that s all we re saying.
political action committee while still vice president and not running for anything. the people attending the if you ever for his pac in indianapolis paid a lot of money to go. anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000. five people are paying $5,000 a pop to go round table with mike pence tonight in indiana. now, it s unusual, full stop, that a vice president has a political action committee, but on top of that there s a acquit as to how mike pence is going to pay for his very expensive private lawyer who he just announced the hiring of yesterday. this is the person who s going to defend skmens represent mike pence in anything having to do with the trump russia scandal or the obstruction of justice investigations. this is a lawyer who gets paid a