enforcement should look like? has it always looked like that? are these deliberate choices that start in washington from the trump administration and carried out this way? one other thing before i bring in my expert. that is other people responding. here s video posted monday showing neighbors linking arms in a human train around a van to protect a man and his son from potential arrest by i.c.e. agents. i want to bring on professor victoria desoto from the university of exs, an expert in these issues. your response? despicable and disgusting what we saw in your previous video. ing what has been triggered with the trump immigration policy especially these very rigorous i.c.e. enforcements is fear and panic and the type of fear and panic that we saw in that video. however, the silver lining that we saw a bit of in that second video, ari, is that the community is standing up.
now and i think what is going to be most troubling for candidates like jeb bush and scott walker is this anti establishment where so we see trump and carson and f many iori nr iorina doing well. in the 1990s we saw a strong e push and so interesting because it s an 180 from what the republican party usually does. they always end up nominating that candidate who is the establishment, whether it s john mccain or bob dole or george w. bush it s the establishment candidate but this may be the election where they break the mold. victoria desoto and james peterson, thank you both for your time. thanks, rev. ahead, serena williams
has been so nice to me, i can t hit him. i may have to if he starts getting really close, i may have to. joining me now are msnbc contributors victoria desoto and james peterson. thank you both for being here. thanks, rev. thank you, reverend. james, how surprising is this surge for ben carson? it s a little bit surprising, rev. i mean, i think it depends how we define outsider. sure, trump is sort of outside the beltway and outside of politics but when i look at ben carson and carly fiorina, they are figures outside of the scope of what we traditionally see from republican candidates. in much the same way herman cane was to popular success, i feel like dr. carson has the same he can play which is essentially the republican party politics says hey, we re trying to be a
ninelovesobamacare.com. he failed, by stabbing him in the back by failing to the cruz-led catastrophe last fall s government shutdown. ted cruz who faces a test in texas tomorrow refused to endorse his republican senate colleague and said his vote is between him and the ballot box. as all of ted cruz s votes stay there. joining me is the professor of public policy at the university of texas. victoria desoto and political writer at the dallas morning news wayne slater. thank you all for joining me, especially on the same camera. it s great to see you, wayne, let me start with you, corn nine loves obamacare. createtivety knows no bounds. are we, what is going to happen tomorrow in texas? are we going to be forced to hear more from steve stockman in the coming weeks? this could be the political end of steve stockman. it s not the end of the tea party resurgence.
with the senate period. laura, i was invited to the white house yesterday, and i refused to meet with the president because i saw it as a political trap. joining us from austin, texas, professor at the lbj school of public policy at the university of texas, victoria desoto. thank you so much for joining us. i m rather shocked about mike mccall s statement that meeting with the president of the united states is a political trap. seems like we ve made 180 on the subject of immigration reform. where are you on this? are you optimistic anything can get done? alex, i m actually pessimistic. i knew early on if we get into october, november, we weren t going to see immigration reform come through. first of all we ve seen it fall apart in terms of the house not wanting to move forward on comprehensive immigration reform. comprehensive reform is key. you can t have a piecemeal